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I think we need a fixed and definitive guide of place names by era to accompany our South Africans’ Geni Landing Site.

I think everyone would welcome the input of all the South African curators and users to put together a project for reference, especially if we’re talking about establishing a “golden standard” for all curators to achieve and maintain.

I can imagine the stir it would cause if a curator started correcting all Transvaal profiles from 1852-1877 and 1881-1902 to South African Republic/Zuid-Afrikaansche Republiek.

Imagine the outrage if someone put South African Republic/Zuid-Afrikaansche Republiek in the PROVINCE field and not the country! /s

Drummond - I concur
Look at Ohrigstad from 1880 to present day
ZAR >> 1902 Transvaal Colony >> 1910 Transvaal, Union of South Africa>> 1961 Transvaal, South Africa >> 1994 Northern Transvaal, South Africa >> 1995 Northern Province , South Africa >> 2003 Limpopo, South Africa .

Exhausting!!

You are welome to change any profile I manage ,I try every day to correct a few.

Remember no UK before ??
No USA before 1776
No Germany before ??

Again start with name of place on any original document .

1874 Edenburg, Orange Free State on baptism document just use that name.
Or would that be too difficult?
DN 1885 on document Grahamstown , Cape Colony .
Just use that.

Why try to complicate things .
Maybe
Born 1783
Land van Waveren
Witzenberg Local Municipality.
Western Cape
South Africa
?

I have tended to default to the modern country in the last field, for users who like to create the geni pie graphs that can be grouped/coloured by country. (Hence, you'll find me using UK and SA in my locations - despite all the other fields being the chronologically correct (as far as I know) place names.

If it irritates everyone generally, I'm happy to change that habit, though.

Should one take the time to discover when a town or village was established , the history of that place , who what where or when --- the knowledge one acquires can only benefit one..
More knowledge is only an advantage for anyone.
I search for Süchteln then find myself discovering facts about Gernany ,Prussia and Europe.
Everytime searching for any correct information it is overwhelming what I learn and discover.
What % of their brain capacity do most humans use again ?

Sharon ??
SCOTLAND part of UK in 1680 just not right.
1935 Transvaal ,Union of South Africa definitely not South Africa.
1890 no South Africa existed.
Or else use only complete current names and be done with it.
1836 Makhanda ,Eastern Cape , South Africa.
1920 Harare . Zimbabwe.
1472 Gqeberha , Eastern Cape , South Africa .
300 ade Gaza , Palestine.
5th Century the Italians leave the United Kingdom

No before yesterday Grahamstown or Salisbury

Then just oo bad for GENI 's apple pie

Cape of Good Hope
( after 1994 Western Cape or South Africa? )

Land van Waveren
( after 1994 Witzenberg Local Municipality)
Cape of Good Hope
( after 1994 Western Cape or South Africa? )

Unnecessary to become so convoluted and complicated .

Geni is a universal reference source it has to be 100 % accurate .

Then just oo bad for GENI 's apple pie

:-) Okay, will change from now on. Feel free to change where you see it.

How is a profiled added to Geni ?
Information from a document where I am sure names dates and places originate from so not very likely to be wrong there.
I do know that too often transcribed documents are wrong
; errors or intentional who knows ?
Whenever I do find an original document I do try to add to a profile when I see not attached to that profile and then correct the information accordingly.
Voila I find myself here !!

I also have to start again with profiles I manage and correct there

Maybe not the curators mess but the hundreds of merges.

Maybe if you could give the profile and the URL an explanation can be made.

Judi

Private User MIke has suggested and I am busy with it, that we supply a project with place names and the changes. I just hope is doesn't change in a week time again, I mean place names in SA>

J

Have corrected with June Barnes helping.
Baptism fields were locked by a curator.
Incorrect Fauresmith or Philippolis when baptism was in Edenburg.
Not result of a merge.

Francois Philippus Jacobus Griesel and his siblings

Jan Gabriel Griesel still have Philippolis at the top as remnant.

Think somewhere on transcribed documents or site all children incorrectly lumped under Fauresmith as place of birth and baptism . Some Fauresmith and some Edenburg.
Have added correct baptisms.

The Cutators don't cause this mess. Would it be possible from Geni's side to create some sort of filter which prevents innocent novices from making the wrong merges because they have not verified all the available details before making the merge. I support the use of the original names. Jan

A merge will not change a locked field it was when I tried to merge my profiles with corrct information with those profiles with incorrect locked profiles that I became aware of locked fields .
Even Philippolis is part of that previous incorrect information.
We lesser mortals unable to lock or unlock fields on Geni.
The information fields were locked by a curator .

Locked by curator.
28 August 2014 at 11:21 am according to profile.
Not a merge not an innocent novice.

Jan Gabriel Griesel, b3c3d4e7's profile was locked by Judith Susanna Hendrika Meyer (Marais), Judi - i12j2. baptism, birth and name
28 Aug 2014 at 11:29 AM
So not me or any other innocent novice

AS I said : A prpblem as whomever did lock fields then say they did not , blaming someone or something else .

Just not accepting this anymore .

Another glitsch in GENY system .

Having " a project " is not going to change place of Baptism from Edenburg to Philippolis or Fauresmith .

Neither actually will it change TiIME or the past !

Original place names please.

place names errors not just for South Africa.
Discovered for any place anywhere

Bács-Bodrog

Breslau

Gdingen

Putzig

Koenigsberg /Konigsberg / Königsberg , Pruessen before Stalin now Kaliningrad , Russia

Suechteln / Süchteln defaults as Viersen on Geni

Süchteln is a section of Viersen, a town which is the centre of the Kreis of Viersen in North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany.
Süchteln was formerly an independent town; the Catholic parish church of St Clement is at its centre.
The first mention of the settlement of Süchteln was in 1116, in the books of the Abbey of St. Pantaleon in Cologne. It was granted the right to hold a market in 1423, when it belonged to the Duchy of Jülich. It has been chartered as a town since 1405. There was a celebration of "600 Years of Town Privileges in Süchteln" (600 Jahre Stadtrechte Süchteln) in 2005. The original document with the official seal of Süchteln is in the National Archives of France in Paris.

From the end of the 19th century until the end of the 1950s, Süchteln was a flourishing centre of the textile industry.

In 1970, the city of Süchteln combined with Viersen, Dülken and Boisheim to form the modern city of Viersen.

--and in 2005 I was there !!"600 Years of Town Privileges in Süchteln" (600 Jahre Stadtrechte Süchteln) in 2005

NO further reply. Yes Louise Jordaan I agree.

Judi

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