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About Skofte Ogmundsson Giske
Skópti (Skopte, Skofte) Ogmundsson Giske.
- Father: Thorbergsson, Ogmund
- SKOPTI Ogmundsson of Giske (-Rome 1103). Snorre names "Skopte Ogmundson, a grandson of Thorberg", when recording that he "dwelt at Giske in Sunmore"[47]. Snorre records that Skopte Ogmundson travelled from Norway with his sons Ogmund, Fin and Thord, that Skopte died in Rome, and that his sons also died during the journey[48].
- Skofte was the nephew of Eystein Orre. In 1066, he was a lover and was named after Olav Kyrre's death in 1093 as an older man. His sons were adults and he had lived for a long time at the family-run Giske.
- He participated in King Magnus Barfot's great journey to the Orkney Islands in 1098. In 1101-1102 he had a serious dispute with his kinsman Magnus Barfot about some male sheep who both acquired. The court seems to have been on Skoftet, but Magnus did not want to give up. Skofte therefore sailed from the country in 1102 with 5 well-equipped ships along with its 3 sons, Finn, Agmunn and Tord. They went to Flanders, spring 1103 to France and in the summer to Gibraltar and Rome where he died.
Spouse
- Married; Sigrid eller GUDRUN, daughter of THORD Folason & his wife'. Snorre names "Gudrun, a daughter of Thord Folason" as the wife of "Skopte Ogmundson"[49]. Sigrid TORDSDTR was born before 1031. (20449), daughter of Tord FOLESON & Aalov EINARSDATTER
Skopti & his wife GUDRUN had children:
- i) OGMUND (-[1103]). Snorre names (in order) "Ogmund, Fin, Thord and Thora" as children of "Skopte Ogmundson" & his wife[50]. Snorre records that Skopte Ogmundson travelled from Norway with his sons Ogmund, Fin and Thord, that Skopte died in Rome, and that his sons also died during the journey[51].
- ii) FINN (-[1103]). Snorre names (in order) "Ogmund, Fin, Thord and Thora" as children of "Skopte Ogmundson" & his wife[52]. Snorre records that Skopte Ogmundson travelled from Norway with his sons Ogmund, Fin and Thord, that Skopte died in Rome, and that his sons also died during the journey[53].
- iii) TORD (-Sicily [1103]). Snorre names (in order) "Ogmund, Fin, Thord and Thora" as children of "Skopte Ogmundson" & his wife[54]. Snorre records that Skopte Ogmundson travelled from Norway with his sons Ogmund, Fin and Thord, that his sons all died during the journey, Tord dying last in Sicily[55].
- iv) THORA Skoptisdatter. Snorre names (in order) "Ogmund, Fin, Thord and Thora" as children of "Skopte Ogmundson" & his wife, specifying that Thora married "Asolf Skulason"[56]. In an earlier Saga, Snorre names "Thora, a daughter of Skopte Ogmundson" as the wife of "Asolf of Reine"[57]. m ASULF Skulesson of Rein, son of SKULI Tostesson & his wife Gudrun Nefsteinsdatter.
Source- Project MedLands, Norway Nobility - http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORWEGIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#ThorbergAr...
Additional children are found
- Pål Skoftesson GISKE, Pål Skoftesson is mentioned in Sunnmørsættleggen as the Son Of skofte at Giske. He is listed as Paul on Aure and is therefore speculated that he moved from Giske to Aure in Sykkylven. In other sources it is referred to a Pål Skoftesson, but there is no say about the kinship in these. According to Sunnmørsættleggen, he is married to a Sigrid Torkelsdatter, and they are to have had 2 dead, Sigrid and Ingebjørg. Magnus Erligssons saga shows that he had a son Nicholas Pålsson Kuvung, and it is also he who assumes Giske when Pål dies.
- Ragnhild Skoftendtr GISKE, married Dag Eilivsson Bratsberg
NORWEGIAN BIOGRAPHICAL LECTURE
Skofte Ogmundsson, born 1040, dead 1103, death place Roma, exact year of birth and birthplace is not known. Lendmann. Parents: Ogmund Torbergsson; the mother's name is not known. Married to Gudrun Tordsdatter, daughter of Olav the saint's trademark Tord Folesson. Grandson of Torberg Arnesson (dead about 1050); possibly the daughter's son of Erling Skjalgsson (dead 1027); grandnevø (nephew's son) by Kalv Arnesson (dead about 1051) and Finn Arnesson (dead about 1065); cousin of King Olav 3 Haraldsson Kyrre (ca. 1050–1093); father of Ragnhild Skoftesdatter; grandfather of Gregorius Dagsson (dead 1161); grandfather's grandfather to Skule Bårdsson (dead 1240).
Skofte belonged to one of the foremost families in the country, Arnmødlingene or Arnungene, who had the main farm Giske on Sunnmøre as their main seat. Her grandfather was Torberg Arneson, who was married to Erling Skjalgsson's daughter Ragnhild (it is still uncertain whether she was Skoæd's grandmother). Foster's aunt Tora was Harald Hardrade's freestyle in a steady relationship and mother of the king's children. Through this was Skofte's cousin to King Olav Kyrre.
The close connection to the royal family made it natural for the authors of the king's saga to mention at least Skofte, although they did not have much to tell about him. He had the title of loincloth, a position that involved both a close connection with the king and a position as a local stormy man in the Northwest.
Skofte was probably a few years older than Olav Kyrre, but is not mentioned in connection with Olav's long-standing government. This is probably due to the fact that the king's stories have very little to say about Olav, since his kingdom was so peaceful and undramatic. The son and successor Magnus Berrføtt, on the other hand, went on several war trains during the ten years he was king, as well as Scotland and Ireland as into the Swedish area. In such relations, the peasants were important, and in most of the sagas Skofte and his sons were included in the enumeration of the great men who were with the king. But something beyond the names mentioned does not stand.
Only Snorre tells of a bitter conflict that developed between King Magnus on one side and Skofte and his sons on the other. The disagreement concerned a legacy of Shofte had received, and which the king claimed. Magnus proved completely relentless in this conflict - even after Finn's son's son, had asked the king to give in. It is shining through Snorre that this was so much more worthy of criticism that Finn the year before had saved the king's life during a retreat in Sweden, with great danger for his own life.
As a result of the conflict, Skofte declared himself loyal to the king's service. Together with the sons Finn, Ogmund and Tord, he left the country in the autumn of 1102, for in the Holy Land to join the crusade there. These are the first Norwegian crusaders we know about. They wintered in Flanders and sailed in the summer of 1103 into the Mediterranean. Shifts, however, became ill and died in Rome. Snorre says that his sons also died on this journey, and that the others who were with them came back to Norway late autumn 1103 - "someone from Jerusalem, others from Miklagard" (Constantinople).
Snorre had, as I said, no written submission for this account, and the whole conflict is seen in a strongly king-critical perspective. There is reason to believe that Snorre built on an oral tradition, which he became familiar with during visits to Norway. A reasonable guess is that the lawyer was Snorre's friend, Duke Skule; Skule's grandfather was the daughter-in-law of Skofte. In this case, this means that Snorre retells what was told in the Giskeet. Skoved's youngest son Pål took over Giske after his father.
Sources and literature for above Information
* HKr.
* NFH, bd. 2, 1855
* H. Koht: biography in NBL1, bd. 13, 1958
From Snorre Sturlasson: Magnus Berrføtts saga:
«Eleventh ... Skofte, son of Ogmund Torbergsson, was a gift lover. He lived at Giske in Sunnmøre; he was married to Gudrun, daughter of Tord Folesson. Their children were Ogmund, Finn, Tord and Tora, who were married to Åsolv Skulesson. The sons of Shepherd promised well in youth. "
«17th Skofte Ogmundsson became inexplicable with King Magnus; They teased about the legacy of a man who was dead. Shuffle had it, and the king demanded it so hard and tiring that it looked ugly. Many meetings were held on this matter, and Skofte decided that he and his sons should never be in the king's violence; he said then they were safest. When Skofte was with the king, he reminded of the close friendship that was between him and the king, and that Shofte's support had been a good friend to the king, and that there had never been any shift in their friendship. He said it was clear he was so wise, that, he says, "I will not tire with you about that matter, king, if I have wrong. But in that I refer to my parents that I hold my right to every man, and in that I make no distinction between people. ”The king kept his mind, and he did not become softer in such speech. Shifts traveled home. "
«18th Then Finn came to the king and talked to him and asked him to let him and his father get right in this case. The king just answered angry and short. Then Finn said: "Otherwise, I waited for you, king, than that you would deny me the law and right the time I was sitting at Kvaldensøy, and few of the other friends your will, but said, as it were, that those who sat there , was sold and doomed, unless King Inge should have shown greater chieftainship against us one you had shown concern for us. Still, many would think we were ashamed of it, if there was anything to worry about. "The King was no longer able to make such speeches, and Finn went home."
«19th Then Ogmund Skoftesson came to the king. When he came in to the king, he said his errand and asked the king to do justice to them and their father. The king replied that it was right as he said, and that they were unreasonable beasts. Then Ogmund said:
"You can make it, king, to make us wrong because you have the power; Here it will be true what is said, that most people who receive their life gift either pay badly or not at all. I will also tell you that I will never be in your service anymore, nor will my father or any of my brothers, if I get raw. "Then Ogmund took home, and they never saw each other again, he and King Magnus . "
«20th In the spring, Skofte Ogmundsson made ready to leave the country. He had five long ships, all of which were well equipped. His sons, Ogmund, Find and Tord, joined the journey. They were pretty late finished; in the fall they sailed to Flemingland (Flanders) and were there in the winter. Early in the spring they sailed west to Valland (France), and in the summer they sailed out through Norvasund (Strait of Gibraltar) and in the autumn to Rome city. Shots died; all the sons also died on this journey. Tord lived the longest of them; he died in Sicily (Sicily). People say that Skofte has sailed through Norvasund first of all Norwegians; This journey was widely known. ”1
Source for above Information Snorre Sturlasson: Magnus Berrføtt's saga, section 11-20. Snorre Sturlasson: Harald Hardrådes saga, section 98. C.M. Munthe: Norwegian badges, NST Volume I (1928), page 341. Mogens Bugge: Our ancestors, no. 872. Bent and Vidar Billing Hansen: Ancestors of the Rosary, page 17.
History
860751442. Lendemann Skofte Agmundsen Giske (20443) (20444) was born in 1040 in Giske. He was a Lendemann in 1066. (20445) (20446)
Attended King Magnus's great journey to Orkenøene 1098. He died in 1103 in Roma (I). (20447) He was the nephew of Eystein Orre and is referred to by Olav Kyrre's death as an elderly man who had grown up sons and had lived for a long time in family-run Giske. In 1101-1102 he had a serious dispute with his kinsman Magnus Barfot about something that the two had acquired. The court seems to have been on Skofte's side, but Magnus would not give up. Skofte therefore sailed 1102 with 5 well-equipped ships with his 3 sons Finn, Agmund and Tord, went to the Flanders, in the spring of 1103 to France and in the summer to Gibralter and Rome where he died. He was married to Sigrid TORDSDTR. (20448)
- Married: Sigrid TORDSDTR was born before 1031. (20449)
LINKS
- http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORWEGIAN%20NOBILITY.htm#ThorbergAr...
- http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skofte_Ogmundsson
- http://www.snl.no/.nbl_biografi/Skofte_Ogmundsson/utdypning
- http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db...
- http://sunnmiddelalder.net/giskeherrer/1103-1150-pal-skoftesson
- http://www.ointres.se/carellk/sida0/h_____o7.htm
Sources
- Reference: FamilySearch Genealogy - SmartCopy: Mar 14 2018, 0:40:34 UTC
- Reference: FamilySearch Genealogy - SmartCopy: Mar 14 2018, 3:25:32 UTC
Skofte Ogmundsson Giske's Timeline
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Giskemo, Giske, Møre og Romsdal, Norway
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Roma, Lazio, Italia (Italy)
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