Sir Lawrence Warren, of Poynton

Sir Laurence Warren, knight, of Poynton and Stockport, born about 1394, died 1444. He was the only son of Nicholas de Warren of Poynton and Stockport by his wife Agnes de Wynnington.

Married

1. Margaret, daughter of Richard Bulkeley by Margery Venables his wife.

This couple had three sons,

1. John,
2. Randle and
3. Edward but little is known of the latter two.

There were six daughters,

1. Margery,
2. Joan,
3. Cicely,
4. Margaret and
5. Elizabeth and
6. one who is known only for marrying Thurstan de Holland but whose Christian name is unrecorded.

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Notes

From A STUDY OF A MEDIEVAL KNIGHTLY FAMILY: THE LONGFORDS OF DERBYSHIRE1, PART 2 by Rosie Bevan < PDF >

Nicholas Longford V

The most turbulent years in Derbyshire in the fifteenth century coincided with Nicholas V as head of the Longford family. As a minor aged 16 in 1434, he had an early introduction to feuding, when the older generations of his family were involved in the dispute between Henry Pierrepont and Thomas Foljambe in which his great uncle was killed. A passionate partisan of the Lancastrian cause, Nicholas’ distrust of, and contempt for, Yorkist ambition, and its supporters, was the impetus in his leadership of the sack of Elvaston in 1454, in which many of his kinsfolk and tenants took part.

When Nicholas was 12 years old his marriage was arranged to Joan, daughter of Lawrence Warren (d.1444) of Poynton, Cheshire, and Margaret, daughter of Richard Bulkeley of Cheadle and Margery Venables of Kinderton (Ormerod, 1882, pp.199, 627). The Warrens claimed descent from John de Warenne, earl of Surrey, who died without legitimate issue in 1347, but had fathered illegitimate children by Maud de Nerford. One of these, Edward (recipient in the earl’s will of a bequest of £20 (Raine, 1836)), had married Cicely daughter and heir of Sir Nicholas de Eton, through whom Poynton and Stockport became the nucleus of the Warren family estate3.

By the marriages of his wife’s sisters the Longfords were connected to the Davenports of Bramhall, Honford, Stafford and Holand families, and through her nieces to the Mainwarings of Peover, Ardernes and Athertons (Earwaker, 1880, p.286). Joan’s brother, John Warren, whose wife was Isabel Stanley4, was to play a supporting role in Longford affairs, both as a witness to deeds and in the disturbances of the 1450s.

At the time of Nicholas’ minority there was tension between Seth Worsley5, his lawyer stepfather, and his father-in-law, Lawrence Warren, which is evident by a plea by Lawrence from prison that Seth Worsley, wanting to delay a suit in court between them, had laid false charges against him, so that the London sheriffs would arrest and keep him in gaol. Lawrence pleaded John Frank, Keeper of the Great Seal, to issue a writ of habeas corpus so that he could come to court, have the charges examined and dismissed, and get on with pursuing the original suit6.

References

• http://www.thornber.net/cheshire/htmlfiles/warren.html
• Genealogical and personal memoirs relating to the families of the ..., Volume 4 By William Richard Cutter, William Frederick Adams
• http://books.google.com/books?id=FM8UAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA2165&lpg=PA2165&...
• Pg. 2165
• (XVIII) Sir Edward de Warren, married Cicely, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Eaton, and had a son
• (XIX) Sir John de Warren, married Agnes, daughter of Sir Richard Wynnington, and had a son
• (XX) Sir Laurence de Warren, married Margery, daughter of Hugh Bulkley Esquire, and had a son
• (XXI) Sir John de Warren, married Isabel, daughter of Sir John Stanley, and had a son ________________________
• Class memoir of George Washington Warren: with English and American ancestry By Thomas Coffin Amory
• http://books.google.com/books?id=VTMBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=I...
• Pg.27
• .... The line continued on through Nicholas, whose wife was Agnes de Winnington; Sir Lawrence, who, about 1394, married Margaret Bulkeley; John, born 1414, whose wife was Isabel, daughter of Sir John Stanley of Latham, Knight of the Garter, to Sir Lawrence, who, by Isabel Leigh of Adlington, had William, ancestor of Sir John Borlase Warren, of recent naval celebrity, and to Sir John, who, about 1480, marrying Eleanor Girard, had five sons. .... __________________________
• Representative men and old families of southeastern Massachusetts ..., Volume 3
• http://books.google.com/books?id=GHIWAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA1676&lpg=PA1676&...
• Pg.1676
• Nicholas, son of Sir John and Margaret, daughter of Sir John Stafford.
• Sir Laurence, son of Nicholas and Agnes, daughter of Sir Richard Wymington.
• John, born 1414, son of Sir Lawrence and Margery, daughter of Hugh Birlkley.
• Sir Laurence, son of John and Isabel, daughter of John Stanley of Lotham. __________________
• Sir Laurence Warren1,2,3
• M, #23363, b. circa 1394, d. circa 30 July 1444
• Father Nicholas Warren2 b. c 1373, d. 1413
• Mother Agnes Wyninton2 d. a 1421
• Sir Laurence Warren was born circa 1394 at of Poynton & Stockport, Cheshire, England; Age 24 in 1418. He also held properties in Woodplumpton, Lancashire; Booton & Skeyton, Norfolk; & Rotley, Warwickshire.2 He married Margaret Bulkeley, daughter of Sir Richard de Bulkeley and Margery Venables, circa 1412; They had 3 sons (John, Randle, & Edward) and 6 daughters (Margery, Joan, Cecily, Margaret, Margaret, & Elizabeth).2 Sir Laurence Warren died circa 30 July 1444.
• Family Margaret Bulkeley b. c 1389
• Children
  • John Warren, Esq.+
  • Cecily Warren+2
  • Margaret Warren+2 b. c 1415, d. a 1442
  • Margery Warren+2,3 b. c 1423
• Citations
• 1.[S7338] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 134; Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, by David Faris, p. 113; Wallop Family, p. 440; Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists, by Weis, p. 187.
• 2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 753.
• 3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 207.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p778.htm#i... ___________________________
• Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before ... By Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Kaleen E.
• http://books.google.com/books?id=3F9nG8aFJ7MC&pg=PA206&lpg=PA206&dq...
• No previews available _______________________

"In the following reign the wars with France were renewed, and Henry V., of lasting memory, added fresh lustre to the English arms. The Cheshire archers were again to the fore, and at the close of the wars, when it was agreed that Henry should marry the daughter of the French King — thirty gentlemen of the county were summoned to attend their monarch at Westminster, among them being Laurence de Warren, baron of Stockport, the feudal lord of this locality. He also accompanied the King to France, where he received the honour of knighthood, and is said to have been at the bedside of his sovereign when Henry died in 1422." Source: Annals of Hyde and district : containing historical reminiscences of Denton, Haughton, Dukinfield, Mottram, Longdendale, Bredbury, Marple, and the neighbouring townships" By Thomas Middleton.1899,MANCHESTER:

Cartwbight & Rattray Ltd., 12 & 14, Brown Street; and at London, Liverpool, and Hyde. _______________________________________________________

known as Sir Laurence de Warren

He was born in Poynton, Shropshire, England, c 1394.

He was Lord of Poynton & Stockport.

He died in Poynton, Shropshire, England, c 1444.

Reference for parentage being John & Agnes (Wynnington) listed below.

Had 8 children

Death Notes

d. March 1443 in Poynton, Cheshire, England.

Married 1412 in Poynton, Cheshire, England

to Margery Bulkeley

Sources:

  1. Title: Book: The Warrens And You

     Author: Elizabeth Prather Ellsberry

     Publication: Brown-White-Lowell Press, Kansas City, Missouri @1958

     Note: ABBR Book: The Warrens And You

     Page: Page 41  

also known as Sir Laurence de Warren

He was born in Poynton, Shropshire, England, c 1394.

He was Lord of Poynton.

He died in Poynton, Shropshire, England, c 1444.

Reference for parentage being John & Agnes (Wynnington) listed below.

 4. Sir Laurence Warren, knight, of Poynton and Stockport, born about 1394, died 1444.  + Margaret, daughter of Richard Bulkeley by Margery Venables his wife. This couple had three sons, John, Randle and Edward but little is known of the latter two. There were six daughters, Margery, Joan, Cicely, Margaret and Elizabeth and one who is known only for marrying Thurstan de Holland but whose Christian name is unrecorded. For a Genealogy of the Warren Family of Poynton Chesire: http://www.thornber.net/cheshire/htmlfiles/warren.html

Sir Laurence De Warren, Knight was born on 1394 in England to Nicholas De Warren, Lord of Poynton and Agnes De Wynynton De Warren. Sir Laurence married Margery Buckeley and had 9 children: Randle Warren, Edward Warren, Margery Warren, Joan Warren, Cicely Warren, Margaret Warren, Elizabeth Warren, Unknown Warren, and Sir John Warren, Esq., Lord of Poynton. He passed away on March 13, 1443/44 in France.

Note: SOURCE: [http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gonefishi...]

Sir Lawrence de Warren, Knight, b 1394 married Margery Bulkeley 1412, dau. of Hugh (Richard) Bulkeley and Margery Venables: see Governor Morgan G. Bulkeley of Connecticut Served in France 1413 died 3-14-1443/44 they had 8 children per Pedigree Chart

Another source indicates 3 sons - John, Randle and Edward but little is known of the latter two. There were six daughters, Margery, Joan, Cicely, Margaret and Elizabeth and one who is known only for marrying Thurstan de Holland but whose Christian name is unrecorded.

He is said to have been in France with King Henry V., when he died there.

Note: SOURCE: [http://www.warrenfamilyhistory.com/Docs/Our%20Warrens%20in%20Englan...]

Sir Laurence de Warren, Knight was born about 1394, married Margery, daughter of Hugh Bulkley of Owre, Shropshire in 1413 and died in 1444. Their children were John, who succeeded him, Randle or Ralph; Margery who married John de Honford; Joan who married Nicholas de Longford of Derbyshire; Cecily who married John Davenport; Margaret who married John Stafford; and Elizabeth.

Sir Laurence De Warren, Knight is my 19th great grandfather.

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From Genealogical and Personal Memoirs Relating to the Families of the State of Massachusetts, Volume 4 (Google eBook) William Richard Cutter, William Frederick Adams.  Page 2165:

• (X) Herbert IV, Count of Vermandois and Valois, died 1080, leaving a daughter
• (XI) Adela de Vermandois, married Hugh the Great, son of Henry I, of France, and Count of Vermandois and Valois. They had a daughter
• (XII) Elizabeth (Isabel), married William de Warren, second Earl of Surry, and Warrenne and Mortimer in Normandy. He was born about 1040 and died 1130. They had a son
• (XIII) Reganal de Warrenne, married Adela, daughter of Roger de Mowbray. They had a son
• (XIV) William de Warren, married Isabel, daughter of Sir William de Hayden, and had a son
• (XV) Sir John de Warren, who married Alice, daughter of Roger de Townshend, and had a son
• (XVI) John de Warrenne, married Joan, daughter of Sir Hugh de Post, and had a son
• (XVII) Sir Edward de Warrenne, married Maud, daughter of Richard de Skeyton, and had a son
• (XVIII) Sir Edward de Warren, married Cicely, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Eaton, and had a son
• (XIX) Sir John de Warren, married Agnes, daughter of Sir Richard Wynnington, and had a son
• (XX) Sir Laurence de Warren, married Margery, daughter of Hugh Bulkley Esquire, and had a son
• (XXI) John de Warren, married Isabel, daughter of Sir John Stanley, and had a son
• (XXII) Sir Lawrence de Warren, married Isabel, daughter of Sir Robert Leigh, in 1458, and had a son
• (XXIII) William de Warren, by wife Anne had a son
•  (XXIV) John de Warren, by wife Elizabeth had a son
• (XXV) John Warren of Headbury, Devonshire, England, who had a son 
• (XXVI) Christopher Warren, who had a son 
• (XXVII) William Warren, married Anne Mable, and had a son 
• (XXVIII) Christopher Warren, married Alice Webb, and had 
• (XXIX) John Warren, married in England. Margaret, and came to New England in 1630, in the same fleet with Sir Richard Saltonstall. and settled at Watertown, Massachusetts.  

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Sir Laurence de Warren, Knight was born about 1394, married Margery, daughter of Hugh Bulkley of Owre, Shropshire in 1413 and died in 1444. Their children were John, who succeeded him, Randle or Ralph; Margery who married John de Honford; Joan who married Nicholas de Longford of Derbyshire; Cecily who married John Davenport; Margaret who married John Stafford; and Elizabeth.