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Sir John Warren, Lord of Stopford

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Birthplace: Poynton, Cheshire, England (United Kingdom)
Death: January 09, 1517 (46-56)
Ashburton, Devon, England (United Kingdom)
Immediate Family:

Son of Sir Laurence de Warren, Knt., of Pointon and Isabel Holford
Husband of Eleanor Warren
Father of Sir Laurence Warren, Lord of Poynton; Nicholas Warren; Ralph Warren; Jerome Warren; Cecily Booth and 6 others
Brother of William Warren, of Ripple Court; Isabella Warren; Richard Warren and N.N. Vesey
Half brother of Sir John Holford

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Sir John de Warren, knighted at Ripon 1487. The Battle of Stoke Field (16 June 1487) may be considered the last battle of the Wars of the Roses, since it was the last major engagement in which a Lancastrian king faced an army of Yorkist supporters. The Battle of Bosworth, two years previously, had established Henry on the throne. The Battle of Stoke Field was the decisive engagement in an attempt by leading Yorkists to unseat him in favour of the pretender Lambert Simnel.

Though it is often portrayed as almost a coda to the major battles between York and Lancaster, it was fought between well-equipped armies of comparable size. Casualties on both sides were very much heavier than at Bosworth, in part because of the concentrated and attritional nature of the struggle. In the end, though, Henry's victory was crushing. Almost all the leading Yorkists were killed in the battle

  • Born: Between 1461 and 1470 - Poynton, Cheshire, England
  • Died: 9 Jan 1518 - Ashburton, Devonshire, England
  • Marriage: 1480 - England

D: 9 Jan 1517/18 but some have death as January 11, 1517/18 in Ashburton, Devonshire, England

Sources:

  • 1. Title: Book: The Warrens And You
    • Author: Elizabeth Prather Ellsberry
    • Publication: Brown-White-Lowell Press, Kansas City, Missouri @1958
    • Note: ABBR Book: The Warrens And You
    • Page: Page 41 ___________________
  • John Warren
  • M, #44370, b. circa 1455, d. 9 January 1518
  • Father Sir Laurens Warren b. c 1415, d. b 1475
  • Mother Isabel Leigh b. 1440
  • John Warren was born circa 1455 at Poynton, Cheshire, England. He married Eleanor Gerard circa 1482. John Warren died on 9 January 1518.
  • Family Eleanor Gerard b. c 1460
  • Child
    • Laurence Warren, Esq.+ b. c 1486, d. 18 Sep 1530
  • From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1476.htm#... ____________________
  • The visitation of Cheshire in the year 1580 (1882)
  • http://www.archive.org/details/visitationchesh00fellgoog
  • http://www.archive.org/stream/visitationchesh00fellgoog#page/n258/m...
  • Pg.241
    • Warren de Pointon, Baron of Stockport. - CHART
  • Nic's obijt vivo patre. = Agnes d. to Sr Rich. Winington.; ch: Laurence (m. Margery Bulkeley) Warren
  • Laurence Warren of Pointon. = Margery d. to Hugh Bulkley.; ch: John (m. Isabel Stanley), Margarett (m. John Stafford) Warren.
  • John Warren of Pointon. = Isabel d. to Sr John Stanley.; ch: Lawrence (m. Isabel Ligh), John (m. Ann d. of Lord Stafford) Warren.
  • Lawrence Warren of Pointon. = Isabel d. to Robert Ligh of Adlington.; ch: Sir John (m. Elizabeth Gerrard) Warren
  • Sr John Warren of Pointon. = Elizabeth d. to Sr Thomas Gerrard.; ch: Sr Lawrence (m. Margrett Ligh), Rich. (m. Katherin More), Nico' (a preist), Jerome, Rafe Warren. _____________
  • Class memoir of George Washington Warren: with English and American ancestry By Thomas Coffin Amory
  • http://books.google.com/books?id=VTMBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=I...
  • Pg.27
  • .... The line continued on through Nicholas, whose wife was Agnes de Winnington; Sir Lawrence, who, about 1394, married Margaret Bulkeley; John, born 1414, whose wife was Isabel, daughter of Sir John Stanley of Latham, Knight of the Garter, to Sir Lawrence, who, by Isabel Leigh of Adlington, had William, ancestor of Sir John Borlase Warren, of recent naval celebrity, and to Sir John, who, about 1480, marrying Eleanor Girard, had five sons. ....
  • Pg.28
  • Among the ancestor of this Sir George was Sir Lawrence, who, in 1458, married Isabel, daughter of Robert Leigh, of Adlington, in Cheshire. William, his second son, settled in Caunton, Nottinghamshire, and from his descended Sir John Borlase Warren, ....
  • John, the eldest son of Sir Lawrence, died in 1525, and his younger son, George, removed to Headboro, in Devon. He had Christopher, .... __________________________

also found as Sir John Warreynn...

  • Lord of Poynton, Cheshire, Eng
  • Knighted 1487 in Ripon

Sir John Warren, Knight was born on 1461 in Poynton, Cheshire, England to Sir Laurence De Warren, Knight and Isabel Leigh De Warren. Sir John married (1.) Eleanor Gerrard on 1480 in Poynton, Cheshire, England and had 7 children: Laurence De Warren, Richard De Warren, Nicholas De Warren, Jerome De Warren, Ralph De Warren, Daughter 1 De Warren, and Daughter 2 De Warren. Sir John married (2.) Jane Arderne of Harden AFTER 1480 in England and had a child: George Warren. He passed away on January 11, 1517/18 in England.

Note: SOURCE: Jane MacDaniels Genealogy:

Sir John Warryne, knight Lord of Poynton born 1461 = Baron of Stockport of Stropforde 1489, Master of Lichfield Guild 1489 died January 11, 1517/18 9Hen8

He married Eleanor Gerrard 1480, daughter of Sir Thomas Gerrard of Bryn Com, Lancashire. He captured Bodiam Castle for King Richard 111. He was knighted by Henry V11 on St. Bartholomews Day in Rippon, Yorkshire

All children from Eleanor: six sons: Laurence, Richard, Nicholas, Jerome, Ralph and George.... There was one daughter, Cicely and possibly one whose Christian name is unknown who married a Legh of Lyme.

Other Source

He was Knighted at Ripon in Yorks by King Henry V11, 1487

Sir John Warryne, Kt. also was married to Joan or Jane Arderne and had 1 Child George Warren b 1516

Eleanor Gerrard born 1462 of Bryn, Com, Salop, England 5 children

Other source: 1st wife:

Notes for JANE ARDERNE OF HARDEN: Daughter of Ralph Arderne of Harden, Esq, widow of Thurston Holland of Denton, Lancashire and who later married John Davenport

Notes for ELEANOR GERARD: Daughter of Sir Thomas Gerard of Bryn, Lancashire.

More About SIR WARREYNN and ELEANOR GERARD: Marriage: 1480

Note: SOURCE: [http://www.warrenfamilyhistory.com/Docs/Our%20Warrens%20in%20Englan...]

Sir John de Warren, Knight was born about 1461 and was knighted at Ripon in York, by King Henry VII, on Bartholomew's Day 1487. He married about 1480, Eleanor, daughter of Sir Thomas Gerrard of Bryn Com, Lancashire, Knight and died January 11, 1517. John and Eleanor’s children according to Harleison MS. 1074, Laurence, Thomas and Robert; but the Poynton pedigree lists Laurence; Richard, living in 1529, who married Catherine, daughter of John Moore, of Bank House, Lancashire; Nicholas, who married Catharine Mainwaring; Jerome; Ralph; and two daughters who died without issue. Sir John married secondly Joan or Jane daughter of Ralph Arderne of Harden. By her he had George Warren who lived at Poynton. The estate passed to Laurence.


◾7. Sir John Warren, knight of Poynton and Stockport, succeeded his grandfather, born about 1461, knighed at Ripon in 1487 and died 9 January 1518.

◾+ 1 st wife, Eleanor, daughter of Sir Thomas Gerard of Bryn, Lancashire. All the children are from this wife. There were six sons, Laurence, Richard, Nicholas, Jerome, Ralph and George. There was a daughter Cicely and possibly one whose Christian name is unknown who married a Legh of Lyme.

◾+ 2 nd wife, Jane daughter of Ralph Arderne of Harden, Esq, widow of Thurstan Holland of Denton, Lancashire and who later married John Davenport of Davenport

Source: http://www.thornber.net/cheshire/htmlfiles/warren.html

East Cheshire Past and Present by J.P. Earwaker, London, 1877 (CRO, Knutsford). This is widely regarded as the best work on East Cheshire of the 19th century. It is useful for family trees of landed families.

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Sir John de Warren, Knight was born about 1461 and was knighted at Ripon in York, by King Henry VII, on Bartholomew's Day 1487. He married about 1480, Eleanor, daughter of Sir Thomas Gerrard of Bryn Com, Lancashire, Knight and died January 11, 1517. John and Eleanor’s children according to Harleison MS. 1074, Laurence, Thomas and Robert; but the Poynton pedigree lists Laurence; Richard, living in 1529, who married Catherine, daughter of John Moore, of Bank House, Lancashire; Nicholas, who married Catharine Mainwaring; Jerome; Ralph; and two daughters who died without issue. Sir John married secondly Joan or Jane daughter of Ralph Arderne of Harden. By her he had George Warren who lived at Poynton. The estate passed to Laurence.

http://www.thevalleyfamily.org/getperson.php?personID=I17558562178&...



From Genealogical and Personal Memoirs Relating to the Families of the State of Massachusetts, Volume 4 (Google eBook) William Richard Cutter, William Frederick Adams.  Page 2165:

  • (X) Herbert IV, Count of Vermandois and Valois, died 1080, leaving a daughter
  • (XI) Adela de Vermandois, married Hugh the Great, son of Henry I, of France, and Count of Vermandois and Valois. They had a daughter
  • (XII) Elizabeth (Isabel), married William de Warren, second Earl of Surry, and Warrenne and Mortimer in Normandy. He was born about 1040 and died 1130. They had a son
  • (XIII) Reganal de Warrenne, married Adela, daughter of Roger de Mowbray. They had a son
  • (XIV) William de Warren, married Isabel, daughter of Sir William de Hayden, and had a son
  • (XV) Sir John de Warren, who married Alice, daughter of Roger de Townshend, and had a son
  • (XVI) John de Warrenne, married Joan, daughter of Sir Hugh de Post, and had a son
  • (XVII) Sir Edward de Warrenne, married Maud, daughter of Richard de Skeyton, and had a son
  • (XVIII) Sir Edward de Warren, married Cicely, daughter of Sir Nicholas de Eaton, and had a son
  • (XIX) Sir John de Warren, married Agnes, daughter of Sir Richard Wynnington, and had a son
  • (XX) Sir Laurence de Warren, married Margery, daughter of Hugh Bulkley Esquire, and had a son
  • (XXI) John de Warren, married Isabel, daughter of Sir John Stanley, and had a son
  • (XXII) Sir Lawrence de Warren, married Isabel, daughter of Sir Robert Leigh, in 1458, and had a son
  • (XXIII) William de Warren, by wife Anne had a son
  •  (XXIV) John de Warren, by wife Elizabeth had a son
  • (XXV) John Warren of Headbury, Devonshire, England, who had a son 
  • (XXVI) Christopher Warren, who had a son 
  • (XXVII) William Warren, married Anne Mable, and had a son 
  • (XXVIII) Christopher Warren, married Alice Webb, and had 
  • (XXIX) John Warren, married in England. Margaret, and came to New England in 1630, in the same fleet with Sir Richard Saltonstall. and settled at Watertown, Massachusetts.  

Baron of Stopfords

Son of Sir Lawrence de Warren, II and Isabel Holford / Warren Husband of Elizabeth Warren; Eleanor de Warren and Jane Davenport Father of John Warren, of Hedbury; Sir Laurence de Warren; Nicholas de Warren; Ralph de Warren; Robert Warren and 6 others Brother of William Warren, of Ripple Court; Isabella Warren; Richard Warren (alias Waller), of Bassingbourne and Agnes Vesey Half brother of Arthur Holford and John Holford, Sir

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Sir John Warren, Lord of Stopford's Timeline

1461
1461
Poynton, Cheshire, England (United Kingdom)
1476
1476
Poynton, Cheshire, England (United Kingdom)
1482
1482
Poynton, Cheshire, England
1483
1483
England
1483
Poynton, Cheshire, England
1484
1484
Poynton, Cheshire, England
1486
1486
Poynton, Cheshire, England
1487
1487
Wiston, Suffolk, England
1490
1490
England