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John Scudder (1590 - 1626)

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Birthplace: Horton Kirby, Kent, England
Death: 1626 (31-40)
Strood, Rochester, Medway, England
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Son of Henry Scudder, yeoman of Horton Kirby and Elizabeth Scudder
Husband of Elizabeth Chamberlain
Father of John Scudder, of Barnstable; Elizabeth Lathrop and Elizabeth Lothrop
Brother of Rev. Henry Scudder; Elizabeth Scudder; Bridget Giles; Thomas Scudder, of Salem; Martha Scudder and 3 others

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About John Scudder, of Strood

Scudder, Stoughton, Chamberlain From: TAG 72:285-300: A New England Immigrant Kinship Network, Jane Fletcher Fiske, F. A. S. G.

"JOHN SCUDDER (HenryA ) was born probably at Horton Kirby, Kent, say 1590, and died, probably at Strood, Kent, in 1625 or 1626. He married at Maldon, Essex, in 1613, ELIZABETH STOUGHTON daughter of the Rev. Thomas Stoughton. As Mrs. Elizabeth Scudder, widow, she married secondly, at Strood, Kent, "the last daye of Aprill 1627, Mr. Robert Chamberlayne Pastor of the Parrishe of Stroud," whose first Wife, Joanna, was buried there on 20 February 1626/7 Robert Chamberlaine's son Thomas, schoolmaster, "by Gods providence deprived of his life at Rochester Bridge," was buried at Strood on 9 October 1630. The record of the marriage states that Elizabeth was the daughter of "the Rev’end Divine that was, Mr Thomas Stoughton." Thomas Stoughton received his M.A. from Queen's College, Cambridge, in 1580, and was vicar of Coggeshall, Essex, from 1600 to 1606. He was father also of Thomas and Israell Stoughton, who came to New England in 1630 and 1633 Robert and Elizabeth (Stoughton) (Scudder) Chamberlain had three children, Samuel, Joanna, and Sarah, baptized at Strood. Mr. Robert Chamberlaine died at Strood and was buried there on 1 June 1639. (There is a twenty-year gap in the Strood register following his burial.) His widow came to New England with her children, Elizabeth Scudder and Samuel and Joanna Chamberlain, following her brothers Thomas and Israel Stoughton and her son John Scudder, all of whom were here by 1635. She was certainly in New England by 6 October 1644, when, as "Mestres Chamberlin," she joined the Rev. John Lothrop's church at Barnstable. She apparently moved to the Bay colony shortly thereafter, for on 14 May 1645, the Massachusetts Bay General Court, calling her “ Mrs Chamberlin, widowe, sister to Mr Israell Stoughton," directed, '[u]pon weighty reasons moveing," that she be allowed either a cow or £5.40

The late Lewis D. Cook, FASG, investigated "Mrs. Chamberlin" and her children in Essex County, Massachusetts, without having access to the English records that provide the Scudder and Stoughton connections. Elizabeth (Stoughton) (Scudder) Chamberlain died intestate, apparently in Ipswich, Massachusetts, before the inventory of her estate was filed on 30 1st month [March] 1647; the court ordered that the estate, which totaled only £32 4s. 5d., be divided: two parts to the son and one part to the daughter.42 Two years later, “Richard Betts, who married Joana Chamberlin. [was] allowed 27: 1 [March]: 1649, as administrator of' the estate of Samuell Chamberlin, brother to said Joana, who was heir to the estate. 43 Richard and Joanna (Chamberlain) Betts moved to Long Island, where his will, dated 16 March 1711, indicates his continuing associations with the Scudders.44 It is unusual that Elizabeth Chamberlain's Scudder children did not share in her estate. However, in cases when the estate was small and included no land, the courts sometimes exercised considerable leeway.

The first child in this Scudder family whose baptismal record was found in the Strood registers was Thomas in 1616/7, but an older child, Elizabeth, was buried there in 1616. While it is tempting to surmise that Bridget, wife of Thomas Verry and Edward Giles, might belong in this family, that placement is impossible unless John was older than calculated and had an earlier wife--Bridget must have been already at least seven or eight years old at the time of his marriage to Elizabeth Stoughton."


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Biography==JOHN SCUDDER was born probably at Horton Kirby, Kent, say 1590, and died, probably at Strood, Kent, in 1625 or 1626. He married at Maldon, Essex, in 1613, ELIZABETH STOUGHTON daughter of the Rev. Thomas Stoughton.

As Mrs. Elizabeth Scudder, widow, she married secondly, at Strood, Kent, "the last daye of Aprill 1627, Mr. Robert Chamberlayne Pastor of the Parrishe of Stroud," whose first Wife, Joanna, was buried there on 20 February 1626/7 Robert Chamberlaine's son Thomas, schoolmaster, "byGods providence deprived of his life at Rochester Bridge," was buriedat Strood on 9 October 1630. The record of the marriage states that Elizabeth was the daughter of "the Rev’end Divine that was, Mr ThomasStoughton." Thomas Stoughton received his M.A. from Queen's College, Cambridge, in1580, and was vicar of Coggeshall, Essex, from 1600 to 1606. He was father also of Thomas1 and Israell1 Stoughton, who came to New England in 1630 and 1633 Robert and Elizabeth (Stoughton) (Scudder) Chamberlain had three children, Samuel, Joanna, and Sarah, baptized at Strood.

Two children came to America, with their widowed mother John married Elizabeth Stoughton 1600 - 1647 - Mother of Joanna (Chamberlain) Betts - see below Elizabeth, sister of Israel Stoughton, migrated as a widow with her Scudder and Chamberlain. Children of John Scudder and Elizabeth Stoughton

1. Elizabeth (1) Scudder 1614 - 1616

2. Thomas Scudder 1617 - 1617 3. John Scudder 1618 - 1690 - of Barnstable, Mass, mentioned in Uncle Henry's will, 1651 married Hannah 1625 -

4. Thomas Scudder 1620 - 5. Elizabeth Scudder 1625 - 1682 - mentioned in Uncle Henry's will, 1651 - married Samuel Lathrop 1623 - 1700

Sources ===* Gary Boyd Roberts. Ancestors of American Presidents. New England Historic Genealogical Society; Location: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA; Date: 2009

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: Note: Scudder Arms:: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=ffdc7f64-f9de-4131-a2bc-1...

Death

1625/26 Strood, Kent, England

Acknowledgments

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About John Scudder Scudder, Stoughton, Chamberlain From: TAG 72:285-300: A New England Immigrant Kinship Network, Jane Fletcher Fiske, F. A. S. G.

"JOHN SCUDDER (HenryA ) was born probably at Horton Kirby, Kent, say 1590, and died, probably at Strood, Kent, in 1625 or 1626. He married at Maldon, Essex, in 1613, ELIZABETH STOUGHTON daughter of the Rev. Thomas Stoughton. As Mrs. Elizabeth Scudder, widow, she married secondly, at Strood, Kent, "the last daye of Aprill 1627, Mr. Robert Chamberlayne Pastor of the Parrishe of Stroud," whose first Wife, Joanna, was buried there on 20 February 1626/7 Robert Chamberlaine's son Thomas, schoolmaster, "by Gods providence deprived of his life at Rochester Bridge," was buried at Strood on 9 October 1630. The record of the marriage states that Elizabeth was the daughter of "the Rev’end Divine that was, Mr Thomas Stoughton." Thomas Stoughton received his M.A. from Queen's College, Cambridge, in 1580, and was vicar of Coggeshall, Essex, from 1600 to 1606. He was father also of Thomas and Israell Stoughton, who came to New England in 1630 and 1633 Robert and Elizabeth (Stoughton) (Scudder) Chamberlain had three children, Samuel, Joanna, and Sarah, baptized at Strood. Mr. Robert Chamberlaine died at Strood and was buried there on 1 June 1639. (There is a twenty-year gap in the Strood register following his burial.) His widow came to New England with her children, Elizabeth Scudder and Samuel and Joanna Chamberlain, following her brothers Thomas and Israel Stoughton and her son John Scudder, all of whom were here by 1635. She was certainly in New England by 6 October 1644, when, as "Mestres Chamberlin," she joined the Rev. John Lothrop's church at Barnstable. She apparently moved to the Bay colony shortly thereafter, for on 14 May 1645, the Massachusetts Bay General Court, calling her “ Mrs Chamberlin, widowe, sister to Mr Israell Stoughton," directed, '[u]pon weighty reasons moveing," that she be allowed either a cow or £5.40

The late Lewis D. Cook, FASG, investigated "Mrs. Chamberlin" and her children in Essex County, Massachusetts, without having access to the English records that provide the Scudder and Stoughton connections. Elizabeth (Stoughton) (Scudder) Chamberlain died intestate, apparently in Ipswich, Massachusetts, before the inventory of her estate was filed on 30 1st month [March] 1647; the court ordered that the estate, which totaled only £32 4s. 5d., be divided: two parts to the son and one part to the daughter.42 Two years later, “Richard Betts, who married Joana Chamberlin. [was] allowed 27: 1 [March]: 1649, as administrator of' the estate of Samuell Chamberlin, brother to said Joana, who was heir to the estate. 43 Richard and Joanna (Chamberlain) Betts moved to Long Island, where his will, dated 16 March 1711, indicates his continuing associations with the Scudders.44 It is unusual that Elizabeth Chamberlain's Scudder children did not share in her estate. However, in cases when the estate was small and included no land, the courts sometimes exercised considerable leeway.

The first child in this Scudder family whose baptismal record was found in the Strood registers was Thomas in 1616/7, but an older child, Elizabeth, was buried there in 1616. While it is tempting to surmise that Bridget, wife of Thomas Verry and Edward Giles, might belong in this family, that placement is impossible unless John was older than calculated and had an earlier wife--Bridget must have been already at least seven or eight years old at the time of his marriage to Elizabeth Stoughton."

GEDCOM Note Biography==JOHN SCUDDER was born probably at Horton Kirby, Kent, say 1590, and died, probably at Strood, Kent, in 1625 or 1626. He married at Maldon, Essex, in 1613, ELIZABETH STOUGHTON daughter of the Rev. Thomas Stoughton. As Mrs. Elizabeth Scudder, widow, she married secondly, at Strood, Kent, "the last daye of Aprill 1627, Mr. Robert Chamberlayne Pastor of the Parrishe of Stroud," whose first Wife, Joanna, was buried there on 20 February 1626/7 Robert Chamberlaine's son Thomas, schoolmaster, "byGods providence deprived of his life at Rochester Bridge," was buriedat Strood on 9 October 1630. The record of the marriage states that Elizabeth was the daughter of "the Rev’end Divine that was, Mr ThomasStoughton." Thomas Stoughton received his M.A. from Queen's College, Cambridge, in1580, and was vicar of Coggeshall, Essex, from 1600 to 1606. He was father also of Thomas1 and Israell1 Stoughton, who came to New England in 1630 and 1633 Robert and Elizabeth (Stoughton) (Scudder) Chamberlain had three children, Samuel, Joanna, and Sarah, baptized at Strood.

Two children came to America, with their widowed mother John married Elizabeth Stoughton 1600 - 1647 - Mother of Joanna (Chamberlain) Betts - see below Elizabeth, sister of Israel Stoughton, migrated as a widow with her Scudder and Chamberlain. Children of John Scudder and Elizabeth Stoughton

1. Elizabeth (1) Scudder 1614 - 1616

2. Thomas Scudder 1617 - 1617 3. John Scudder 1618 - 1690 - of Barnstable, Mass, mentioned in Uncle Henry's will, 1651 married Hannah 1625 -

4. Thomas Scudder 1620 - 5. Elizabeth Scudder 1625 - 1682 - mentioned in Uncle Henry's will, 1651 - married Samuel Lathrop 1623 - 1700

Sources ===* Gary Boyd Roberts. Ancestors of American Presidents. New England Historic Genealogical Society; Location: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA; Date: 2009

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John Scudder, of Strood's Timeline

1590
1590
Horton Kirby, Kent, England
1618
May 24, 1618
Strood, Kent, England (United Kingdom)
1625
July 31, 1625
Strood, Kent, England
July 1625
1626
1626
Age 36
Strood, Rochester, Medway, England