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Abigail (Webb) Shakespeare - Webb / Shakespeare family cleanup

Started by Erica Howton on Thursday, April 24, 2025
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Abigail Shakespeare is seen as daughter of Sir John Alexander Webb, {Fictional} & Margaret Webb, {Fictional} but there are issues with those profiles.


Grandmother of William Shakespeare


Cc: Sharon Doubell

The Webb tree is currently a mess. Some fraudulent profiles have crept back on, or were never straightened out before.

Stirnet's "Shakespeare1" page (https://stirnet.com/genie/data/british/ss4as/shakespeare1.php#top)) and "Webb01" page (https://stirnet.com/genie/data/british/ww/webb01.php#da1) tentatively identify Richard Shakespeare's wife as Agnes Webb, alleged daughter of Sir John (Alexander) Webbe of New Sarum (alive in Sep 1566). Sir John (Alexander) is a brother of William Webbe, of New Sarum & Odstock, MP. Sir John Alexander Webb, {Fictional} appears to be a spurious duplication of Sir John (Alexander).

John Albert Rigali - yes.

Agnes Arden 2nd wife of Robert Arden, of Wilmcote was a known sister of
Alexander Webbe, of Bearley who married her step daughter, Margaret Cornwall

But according to the analysis, “The Apocryphal Noble and Shakespearean Ancestry of the American Webbs” < link > and other profiles at Wikitree:

No reliable source has been cited or found that provides credible evidence as to the identity of their parents.

They trace the bogus connection as born on the internet in 2002. It looks like there were published Shakespeare books that might have speculated, but the more recent scholarship does not.

Additionally, I think Stirnet is still showing (with caveats) Thomas Arden, of Wilmcote as son of Walter Arden, of Park Hall & Eleanor Arden But their son Thomas Arden, of Park Hall had no known wife or issue.

The Webb of Warwickshire do not seem related to the Webbs of New Sarum.

The connection seems to have been an attempt by descendants of Webbs of New England to the baronial Oldstock line of Webbs.

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