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Sir William Keith, Kt. - Confusion on William Lord Keith Marischal who married Elizabeth Lindsay

Started by R Hatley on Wednesday, April 16, 2025
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Hello. What am I missing on information or new research because what sources I have found shows that after William Keith 1381-1476 who married Mary Hamilton, the sources show that his parents were William Lord Keith Marischal who married Elizabeth Lindsay, daughter to the Earl of Crawford. and then his parents were William Keith Lord Marischal who married Margaret Fraser, daughter of John Fraser of Cowie.

Geni and other sites are not showing the generation with Willian and Elizabeth Lindsay so I do not know if its been disproven,, or somehting else. Thank you

It’s a difference in sources.

From a System of Heraldry:

17. William Keith, 2nd Lord Mariscahal, became renowned under King David Bruce, and was one of the commissioners sent to England where peace was achieved. He married Margaret, daughter and heiress of Sir John FRAZIER of Cowie (niece to King Robert II), and had three sons and one daughter. John, the eldest son, was a man of great accomplishments, and married a sister of King Robert III, but he died before his father. The second son, Robert, married the heiress of TROUP, and also died before his father, his lands and titles passing to a son, John Keith (Robert’s eldest son, William, succeeded as Earl at his grandfather’s death in 1412). The Earl’s 3rd son was Alexander, knight of Grandholm. The daughter married Robert, Duke of Albany and brother of King Robert III, and was mother of John STEWART, Earl of Buchan.

The Scots Peerage has:

Sir Robert Keith, Marischal of Scotland … He married the heiress of Troup, whose name has not been ascertained, with whom he got that barony.{Douglas’s Peerage.] He is also, but on doubtful authority, said to have married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir David Lindsay, first Earl of Crawford.{Cf. vol. iii. 17.]

By the first marriage be had:—
1. SIR WILLIAM, who succeeded. …

Sir William Keith, Kt.

Who does not seem to have been given the title of Marischal.

But I’m probably not explaining well.

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