Raymond Henry - Arab descent Califs

Really from ur English anesctores

Has anyone traced the Cal ifs through European royalty. British royal dynasties had had lots of Spanish aaaand Portuguese marriages because Spain was Sees a protective great power at the time.

I susspect the Stewaaaaaart dynasty from Scotland has Arab roots

Show me the Stewarts

Calif Umar al-Farooq Ibnu Khattab (Amirul Mu'minin)
@https://www.geni.com/people/Umar-al-Farooq-%D8%B9%D9%8F%D9%85%D9%8E...
Osman1%D8%A7%D8%A8%D9%92/4616322893170047991

Caliph ʻUthmān Ibn ʻAffān
@https://www.islamicfinder.org/knowledge/biography/story-of-umar-ibn...

Mr Raymond are u sure u descendant from them

Calif is not a king but an elected leaader , no a Sultan.

Raymon Henry, all of us with european descent are somehow related to each other; usually through several lines. Geni shows only small %. In this case Geni's tool does not show in any way that you have "full descenr from Umar nor Osman.." just that maybe you share some of the same ancestry somewhere in the history like we do all.

Geni discussions are not made for this purpose, but at Facebook there are nice Geni groups that are for this kind of purpose, here in Geni this kind of openings are taken more as "spamming" as the notice goes to hundreds, in some cases to thousands of people when you tag several old profiles that have huge following. Maybe check FB groups for this purpose?

Rishabh Sharma One ancestor I have noticed with these ties is Sancha Blount, Lady de Ayala

Not a Stewart at ALL, but perhaps Raymond Henry (private) is thinking along these lines?

Caliph ʻUthmān Ibn ʻAffān is your first cousin 42 times removed.
You → livig(your mother) → Carrie Pearl Cashin (her mother) → Arthur Cashin (her father) → Kathryn Dexter Cashin (his mother) → Joseph Hudson Smith (her father) → Elizabeth Smith (his mother) → Samuel Smalley (her father) → Hicks Small, Sr (his father) → Isabel Small (his mother) → Dr. William Dyer (her father) → Anne Vernon (his mother) → Capt. Edward Hutchinson (her father) → Anne Hutchinson (his mother) → Rev. Francis Marbury (her father) → William Marbury, Esq. (his father) → Robert Marbury, Esq. (his father) → Anne Marbury (his mother) → Sir Thomas Blount, Kt. (her father) → Sir Thomas Blount, Kt. (his father) → Sancha Blount, Lady de Ayala (his mother) → Dª. Inés de Ayala, señora de Malpica (her mother) → Fernán Pérez de Ayala, IX señor de Ayala (her father) → Señor de Unza Pedro El Cronista López de Ayala (his father) → Sancho López de Ayala, Señor de Mena y Unza (his father) → Pedro López de Ayala (his father) → Lope Cabeza Brava Diaz de Haro II, Señor de Vizcaya (his father) → D. Diego II el Bueno López, V señor de Vizcaya (his father) → Don Lope Díaz, IV señor de Vizcaya (his father) → Diego I el Blanco López, III señor de Vizcaya (his father) → Lope Díaz Íñiguez, II señor de Vizcaya, IV Conde de Viscaya (his father) → Toda Fortúnez (his mother) → Fortún Sánchez, señor de Nájera (her father) → Sancho López (his father) → Lope Fortúnez (his father) → Oria (Aurea) Bint Ibn Musa Banu Qasi (his mother) → Lope ibn Musa بن موسى (her father) → Musa Ibn Musa lbn Qasaw, Walí de Tudela, Huesca y Zaragoza (his father) → Muza Ibn Fortún ibn Qasi, valì de Zaragoza, Arnedo y de Tudela (his father) → 'A'isha ibn Abdul Aziz (his mother) → 'Abd al-'Aziz ibn Musa al-Bekir, valí de al-Andalus (her father) → Amîna binte Marwân I bin al-Hakam (his mother) → Marwân I bin al-Hakam al-Qurayshi (her father) → al-Hakam bin Abu al-ʻAs ibn Abi al-'As (his father) → Affan (his brother) → Caliph ʻUthmān Ibn ʻAffān (his son)

Saga--We'e free to discuss anything related to genealogy. You're free to unfollow anything not of interest, or scroll past. I do so often. It isn't difficult, and he's not harming anyone here.

Karrie Amelia Anderson are u sure this is true

your lineage to the khattabs

Rishabh Sharma Personally, I am very confident to Sancha, and feel similarly to Lope ibn Musa. 23&Me also finds North African DNA in my results.

When we're going back these distances, the chance for errors increases, certainly.

I've never personally seen any suggestion linking the Stewarts, who I also have ties to. It is certainly possible something may exist.

Lope ibn musa is actually the father of Auria

Yes, I know. I was commenting on the extent where I feel a level of confidence in what is suggested here based on my own research, and then also what I know comparing to the research of cousins, etc.

Asking me if I am 100% certain of a first cousin 42 x removed is difficult to answer. I'm an honest person, so I'm answering you the best I'm able. The Dyer- Hutchinson-Marbury ancestors of mine are "Gateways" to well-documented historical families. The same can be said for Sancha Blount, and so on.

I'm not as familiar once we're back in the 600s in Egypt and prior, but I've seen nothing yet to suggest the lines are false either. Are you seeing anything here on Geni that doesn't look right to you? If you do, let me know.

Ur descendant of Anne Hutchinson