Judiik Odendaal - Which Willem Nel was her husband?

Sharon Doubell C

6/29/2022 at 1:43 AM

Willem Neel / Nel and Willem Nel are presently a spouse conflict on Judiik Odendaal's profie.

Sharon Doubell C

6/29/2022 at 1:46 AM

Her mariage record says:
1 Aug Willem Nel van cabo de Goede Hoop Bur?
Get aan Stellenbosch T.all?
En
Juidth Odendaal van Cabovoornoemd T.?

Sharon Doubell C

6/29/2022 at 1:48 AM

Willem Nel 's are

Nel - La Buscagne Marriage Record (Tulbagh) (No.3)
Anno 1754 19 May Willem Nel Pieterz van Cabo de goede hoop, burger Aan Swellendam jongman - met Maria Anna Labuscagne van Cabo jonge dogter

Nel - Botha Marriage Record (Tulbagh) (No.15)
Anno 1771 6 July Willem Nel Pieterz van Cabo de goede hoop, burger Aan Swellendam weduwee met Petronella Botha van Cabo jonge dogter

Sharon Doubell C

6/29/2022 at 1:56 AM

Sharon-Ann Sheina de Wet Herr has obviously been able to discern what I haven't on Judith's marriage doc - that the year is 1751

That being the case, then the 1754 marriage of Willem Nel where he is described as a jong man (ie bachelor) seems to point to Judith's 1751 marriage as having been to the other Willem Neel / Nel

and so I'm disconnecting Judith's relationship to the former and leaving Willem Neel / Nel?through=6000000011157528964 as her husband.

J P Weyers

6/29/2022 at 2:43 AM

In her husband 's MOOC he is Willem Nel Willemsz = son of Willem Nel. 1795
Unless that not his Death or Estate notice.

J P Weyers

6/29/2022 at 2:48 AM

She is the widow on estate doucument 22 July 1795 of Willem Nel Willemsz.
His father also Willem then.

J P Weyers

6/29/2022 at 3:15 AM

Unless the MOOC 22 July 1795 refers to her son Willem Nel ?
That's more likely.
But she still alive 1784 and seems 1795 as well

Sharon Doubell C

6/29/2022 at 3:55 AM

Can you upload the docs, or post links?

Sharon Doubell C

6/29/2022 at 4:02 AM

Hang on, I think I can see some of them.

J P Weyers

6/29/2022 at 4:04 AM

On profile of Willem Nel died 1773 ?

Sharon Doubell C

6/29/2022 at 4:14 AM

Inventories of the Orphan Chamber Cape Town Archives Repository, South Africa Reference no.: MOOC8/21.24 Testator(s): Willem Nel 22 July 1795

J P Weyers

6/29/2022 at 4:28 AM

yes that one .
either son or husband of Judit Odendaal >
we know she survived both from this .

J P Weyers

6/29/2022 at 4:30 AM

Lots of dates here to confirm .
her date of death ?
her husband date of death ?
her son date of death ?

Sharon Doubell C

6/29/2022 at 4:39 AM

Hmm, this suggests that she was married to another Willem Nel altogether. Damn! How many could there have been?
The present husband's death date is given as 30 January 1773 on Geni, so the MOOC is attached to the wrong Willem on Geni, or the date is wrong.

Given that we have definite documentation for this Willem Neel / Nel 's parents - I'm going to suggest that we need a new profile for Judith Odendaal's Willem Nel husband whose father is William, and whose son is also William. Unless, as you say, the mooc is somehow the died early son's, and Judith is being mentioned as a widow, not the widow?

J P Weyers

6/29/2022 at 4:44 AM

This is an Estate date ; death could have been 1773 or 1784 ?? this the date the will or estate was finalised .
maybe her son this Willem Nel Willemsz ?

Widow of Willem oude suggests not this one I think ?

Sharon Doubell C

6/29/2022 at 4:45 AM

Yes, I was about to write the same thing: Judit Otendaal, weduwe Willem Nel de oude,

J P Weyers

6/29/2022 at 4:50 AM

how many ?
I am one of 3 circa 1958 my father one of 4 circa 1930 my grandfather one of 4 circa 1900

J P Weyers

6/29/2022 at 4:52 AM

Must try to confirm date of death 1773

At least we know she still alive 1795 !

Sharon Doubell C

6/29/2022 at 5:01 AM

I've moved the Mooc doc to the son's profile

Sharon Doubell C

6/29/2022 at 5:02 AM

cf Willem Nel

J P Weyers

6/29/2022 at 6:17 AM

AGREE with you

J P Weyers

6/29/2022 at 6:20 AM

adjust her date of death ?

Sharon Doubell C

6/29/2022 at 7:30 AM

Will do. Thanks for the reminder

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