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Records and evidences town Prince Albert, SA and Fort Napier.

Started by Ozren Čulić Viskota Žava on Tuesday, August 24, 2021
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Ozren Čulić Viskota Žava do you have the answer you need?

Sharon Doubell if you take a look our previous conversations, or in his profile, I added "A few questions of facts are still open" in section About., at some questions need answers.

Phillip, Shaun, Judith, and June gave to me a some directions, maybe You can help for find about more answers at still open questions of some facts.

I know that is not maybe easy, and I don't want you waste your time, I assume you are busy with yours researching. I'm not down there in SA, how can I do research and looks a archival documents (not only church records) by own, in real time. So any kind of help, additional informations, updates are welcome, at his profile.

In meantime, I will contact to the address and persons, what Shaun and Judith said and gave to me in their replies. If You maybe found a something new or more (worker-employees list, census, or something what is asnwer on open questions, etc...), feel free add at his profile or in section About (non-optional), in advance thanks.

In case you haven't been directed here yet - this project also has useful links: https://www.geni.com/projects/South-African-Genealogical-Reference-Centre/7572

Thanks Sharon Doubell, in meantime I sent email to Annelie Els, what Judith Susanna Hendrika Meyer, Judi - i12j2 already suggested, and I also sent a same to NASA (National Archives Repository) at enquiries@dac.gov.za, I tried to find a official email of eGGSA at their website, but seems at their website official email is not available, a only a separate email contatcs to the members of Team of eGGSA, and contacts can be done by the form.

Private User FYI, seems a email contact of Mr.Bishop Dr. M S Mawelele, what was mentioned at: http://www.national.archives.gov.za/NARS%20DMLIB%208372%20March%202... -not working, I received a reply: Address not found, Your message wasn't delivered to MSMawelele@yahoo.com, because the address couldn't be found, or is unable to receive mail. So, this email address seems is not useful for a contact.

I hope, I will receive a some replies from Annelie and others in next days, soon.

You could try the following book, The Croats in South Africa In Search of a better Life http://www.croatia.org/crown/articles/4777/1/E-Croatians-in-South-A...

My brother in law has a cipy. I can ask him to look in it for your relative if you like.

My father was born according to his birth certificate in Prince Albert, 1905. I later discovered Prince. Alberti in those days was a district that covered a wide area, even Venterstad.. so I;ike you I initially searched Prince Albert. Only until I discovered it applied to a district

Walter Aylen Stevens thanks for mentioned a book, yes, please if you can ask, but I think he is not mentioned in the book.

Maybe if a exists a list or book about miners and similars, such as cadastral or land maps of resident place, and other kind of evidence, see at his profile in about section a some notes.

Private User, thanks for information, a Petar Toma Čulić Dragun after when a Private located a record of his death, died at 13a Sinclair St, Jeppes Extension, Johannesburg, Transvaal, SA not inPrince Albert or Fort Napier.

Judith Susanna Hendrika Meyer, Judi - i12j2, Private User I sent email to Annelie Els and to others, in meantime I didn't recieve yet any replies from them. Judith, if you can remind or told to Annelie, I hope she recieved an email, thanks.

The problem on a lot of old documents - they show
Prince Albert was a district in the old days . So many towns fell under the Prince Albert district is like Venterstad etc
My Dads birth certificate stated born in Prince
Albert in 1905 but actually he was born in that district
Not the town . Regards Lynne

Private User the full name of the town is Prince Albert Hamlet, sometimes abbreviated as Prince Albert or even shorter as Albert. It is indeed a tiny town, or rather a village. In many, many cases places are listed under the name of the nearby town even where the event took place in its district. I am not aware of any Geni policy that prescribes how to indicate the nearby town if an event took place on e.g. a farm in the town district, but maybe we could add the words "District of ..." before the name of the town.

Oh, and I just thought of the former custom in South Africa where the town district was listed based on the magisterial district (i.e. the seat of judicial authority). In this way e.g. my own home town called Tweespruit (meaning Two Rivers) was first established in 1912 during the time when the current province now named Free State was known as the Orange River Colony, in the magisterial district of Thaba 'Nchu (meaning Black Mountain) -- re-assigned in the 1970's to the magisterial district of the town of Excelsior. At the time the change required, among other things, changing the number plates of vehicles. So, there may well be difference of opinion whether the name of the closest town should be listed under the geographical 'District of..." or the applicable judicial magisterial district.

To compound the above conundrum, since 1996 under the current South African Constitution, towns now resort under a wider municipality which includes several towns, and on top of that under an even wider provincial regional authority. To use the above example again, Tweespruit resorts under the magisterial district of Excelsior, in the municipality of Mantsopa, within the provincial district council of Thabo Mofutsanyana. And the province is Free State.

Even the name of the province has seen changes over the years. At first, it was an independent, sovereign country called the Republic of the Orange Free State, and in 1903 after the Anglo-Boer War it became the Orange River Colony. When the Union of South Africa came into being in 1910, it was renamed once again as the Orange Free State Province. This name remained unchanged under the establishment of the Republic of South Africa in 1961, but underwent yet another change to Free State Province under the democratic constitution adopted after 1994.

These changes over the years have led me to use the local, district, regional, provincial, and national indicators as they existed at the time of the event to indicate the administrative and/or political position of the place (or town) as it existed during the relevant period.

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