Sir Thomas Lundie of Pratis, Kt. - Temporal Problems

Adding this cross ref note

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I must comment upon the dates confusion with this linage, to wit:
Sir Thomas b. 1430
his father William b. 1445
his father John b. 1446
his father John b. 1443
his father John b. 1360 (impossible connection - died 1411)

Surely, there must be either a duplicate or two, or some dates out of touch
with reality?

Thanks Erica and Livio. I find with the Scottish Lairds, sometimes people don't understand that "Of that Ilk" means that that particular person is the head of the clan at that time, and that person might also have been known by the land they are from.. so it might a combination of duplicates, wrong selection, cousins, and messed generations. Same old, Same old.

There were some shady merges, but the chronology of the line holds, Erica Howton, if you take out the birth dates, which are, as far as I can see, guesses, as they usually would be, since births didn't generally get recorded until the second half of the 16th century.

See if it is making more sense now.

Maybe the person was embarrassed ... LOL..

For some reason when I copied the entire post and pasted it in the Medieval project, it cut off the last part of the profile ID,,,even though it continued copying the rest of the post. Here is the profile

Sir Thomas Lundie of Pratis, Kt.

12/11/2020 I was able to sort through a number to get it down to 1 crossed generation, but there are too many locked fields and relationships, that if is difficult for me to resolved.

I suggest following the Lundie.org info on the line that would have been available when they were incorrectly locked.

http://www.lundie.org/newsite/Lundie_of_that_ilk/lairds/Lundie_Lund...

The definitive line was published 2005.

Dean Richard Hobart - so one of the “locks” was an incomplete merge to select the correct mother, so got “stuck” on two mothers. It’s (just) sloppy merging and lack of disconnect rights. I can follow behind with real curator relationship locks.

Disconnected Walter Lundy as child.

“ The only known son of Sir William Lundie of that Ilk and Elizabeth Hepburn, aaughter of Sir Patrick Hepburn, 1st Lord Hailes, was Thomas Lundie of Pratis who married 1st Isabella Boswell, daughter of the Laird of Balmuto (contract 7/4/1788) and 2nd to Christian Sutherland, after 1508, daughter and heiress of Alexander Sutherland of Duffus (and relict of William Oliphant, son of the 1st Lord Oliphant)”

http://www.lundie.org/newsite/Lundie_of_that_ilk/lairds/Lundie_Lund...

Actually I think Walter may be a grand son ?

Added Isobel Lundie as daughter:

“ Isobel, who married Arthur Forbes and may be the same Isobel Lundy who married David Lindsay, 8th Earl of Crawford.

We have daughter confusion ?

http://venitap.com/Genealogy/WebCards/ps34/ps34_077.html

Sir William’s three known daughters were:

2. Margaret, who married Sir George Forbes, 3rd of Rires aroung 1500;
3. Anne, who married John Melville of Carnbee; and
4. Isobel, who married an Arthur Forbes, and may well be the same Isobel Lundy who married David Lindsay, 8th Earl of Crawford.

Source: HISTORY OF THE CLAN LUNDY, LUNDIE, LUNDIN, - http://www.lundie.org/newsite/lundie_of_that_ilk/l...at_ilk_1470-15...