"Removed" & "first & second cousin"...

Removed is generation differences - how many generations away from you the relationship are.

First cousin once removed is a first cousin relationship one generation away from your own, - i.e. a first cousin of your father or mother, or the child of a first cousin of you.

Thanks Bjørn for the explanation, which I still try figure out, I won´t give in until I get grip of it completely :)

As I understand it , it works like a triangle : With blocks ( Names) strait downwards That is the 1st 2nd 3d 4th and so on cousins; The long leg is the times removed. For instance your 3rd cousin 5 times remove will be The 4th person vertical (you are nr 1) and then again the 6th person horizontally

To be honest I am not sure it is exactly like that I will make sure and come back

Thanks Dries for Your explanation & for Your fine example of how it works. This is somehow the way thought it works although I hadn´t figured it out completely. I will try some steps vertical (backwards) & horizontal (sideways) to see what happens. You´re always welcome back...

There are several examples on the webb. Here is one:
http://i1.wp.com/thegeneticgenealogist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/...

Wow, ok, tack, Bo-Arne. Färgglatt är det, fast jag får allt klura på systematiken en stund. "1c" "2c" o.s.v. uppfattar jag som "First cousin" o.s.v., fast vilka dessa är "i sidled" i verkligheten har jag inte grepp om i nuläget...innan jag har kollat hur det funkar...

I dont understand what the last person said in Swedish but the explanation that Bo-Arne ostborg gave is more or less what i have in mind..

Just for the fun of it I will repeat it in Afrikaans. Ek verstaan nie wat die laaste persoon in Sweeds gese het nie maar die verduideliking wat Bo-Arne Ostberg gegee het stem ooreen met wat ek in gedagte gehad het.

:-D Thanks, Dries, very interesting to get a translation to Afrikaans. The last & only person writing in Swedish here is me & what I wrote is : "Wow, ok, thanks Bo-Arne. It´s colorful, but I must figure out the systematics for a while longer. I see "1c", "2c" & so on as "First cousin" & so on, but for now I haven´t got a grip on who they are in reality...before having checked out how it works." This was a comment on the chart over the genealogy paths that he sent me a link to...

http://lifehacker.com/second-cousins-once-removed-and-more-explaine...

Maybe this is a more understandeble one.

In Afrikaans, we South Africans, seldom use the word Nephew or Niece. We speak of every one as Cousin (for mails) and as Niece (for women) if you want to stress that she is something more or nearer you have to explain with " my brothers daughter or sons"

During the first 50 to 100 years of settlement at the Cape here were sou few people that there was a lot of intermarrying and every one was family of every one else from their the custom to call every one your age or younger cousin (niggie or Neef) People 10 years or more older then you, call auntie or uncle. (Tante of Oom).

In Swedish we don't have the sexless grand or greatgrand. We use chains of far/mor (father/mother) shortened f/m in tables.
For instance second cousin twice removed going up could be farfars syssling or farmors syssling or morfars syssling or mormors syssling. Btw kusin in Swedish is only first cousin. Second cousin is syssling or 3-männing, third cousin is 4-männing, fourth cousin is 5-männing, etc.

Thanks again, Bo-Arne, it gets a bit more clear, step by step. Sooner or later I hope to figure this out completely :)...

...& thanks also to Dies for the link, which I had somehow missed before. I have only just opened it, but it looks quite logical & understandable :)...

I think of it as generations down from the sibling pair, rather than a triangle.

If your parents are siblings, you are first cousins (up one generation each to the sibling pair).
If your grandparents are siblings you are second cousins (up two generations to the sibling pair - or equivalently, down two generations from the sibling pair, to each of you).
If one of you has to go more generations than the other to get to the sibling pair, then that is the 'removeds" -- eg, if one is 5 generations down from one member of a sibling pair, and the other is 8 generations down - then you are each 5th cousin 3 times removed (8-5 = 3).

Can someone tell me - does this work out the same as the triange Dries described?
My brain is just failing to process it the way he describes it, but it may well be the same thing.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/03/finally-a-chart-explaining-who-your-s...
Look at this one

here is another one https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CousinTree.svg

I don`t think we none British , can puzzle it out.

I see mostly the first cousin twice removed to a nobely person or family so tell me is these nobely person also my real family?

Please tell me.

Greetz:Roy Huijer.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/03/finally-a-chart-explaining-who-your-s... definitely works out the same as I said.
Everyone thinks differently, and to me, if up X generations to sibling pair from each person equals Xth Cousins makes total sense. And that removes come in when there is a difference of how much each goes up to sibling pair -
So specifically, Xth Cousin Nth removed if up X to sibling pair from closest to the sibling pair, with N = diff. between how many generations for the two to reach the sibling pair.
Sounds way more complicated saying, than counting it out. So cannot guarantee that will be the easy way for anyone else. For me it is majorly easier than the chart.
But for others, that chart may speak to them more clearly.

The other chart I find much, much harder to understand - but think have finally mastered enough to see it is saying the same thing.

Roy - not at all sure what you mean by "a nobely person or family".
What you consider your "real family" is up to you.

Geni considers Max Family to be back to 3rd greatgrandparent, out to 4th Cousin --
your first cousin twice removed counts as in your Max Family on Geni.
It is not in your immediate family.
It is blood kin to you.

Elizabeth II, Queen of the United Kingdom

My 14 th Cousin straight.

Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom is my 7th great uncle's grandson's wife's first cousin five times removed

Yes, but I think that some lines are impossible to translate into Swedish, like this one;

Bob Dylan, Nobel Prize in Literature, 2016 is Per Anders Dencker's 6th great aunt's second cousin's wife's fourth great niece's partner's son's wife's first cousin's wife's aunt's husband's first cousin's wife's first cousin's husband's third cousin twice removed!

https://www.geni.com/path/Per-Anders-Dencker+is+related+to+Bob-Dyla...

Wow, is he really? I didn´t manage to get any connection when I tried earlier. I can´t say it´s a very straight path though ;)...

Well, at least it's a feat of Geni to transform 100 people into that! ; )

It is indeed, yes, really great work. I notice that I somehow picks the correct person in tha path, like "6th great aunt". "Fourth great nice" is a bit tricker. It would be nice having a chart big enough in order to place every person in the right place...

Nicol Heidenreich, Heidenricus is my 27th great grandfather. He was a co-founder of Lübeck, Germany & was born in 1115, 900 years in a straight path, really cool :)

Nicol Heidenreich/Heidenricus

Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom is your fifth cousin once removed's ex-husband's 10th cousin

https://www.geni.com/path/valentina-v-golubeva+is+related+to+Queen-...

but I have to pass DNA as I have straight line to this Tudor:
(NOT a John who immigrated to America) Tudor