Additions to, Questions & Comments Regarding "Cause of Death Portal"

What about Gangrene??? Where would it go??? Under Infections but not under Epidemics???

What about other types of infections that are not epidemic??? Now days we have MRSA, but that is a more recent infection.

Gangrene was a tricky one, my uncle Karl-Erik died 2005 of that, at the Servicehuset Uddängen, Mölndal, a place for old people, but actually, He had injured his leg in the stairs, they put him in a bed and just let that decease develop until he died of it, maybe that should be put under some disguised euthanasia or just negligence?

My father is stated to have died from Cerebral Trombos, Stroke, but actually, that was a minor part of it, whilst at the hospital Sahlgrenska in Göteborg, a nurse gave him an insulin injection, and no, he was not diabetic, so his heart stopped, they immediately started it again, but he fell in a coma and never woke up. This happened 1988, guess that sort of things still occurs. I witnessed this shit, but I was standing behind the door in the corridor, so they did not see me, so in fact, he died of malpractice, or, worse, by the hand of what we in Sweden call, "dödsängel", a death angel, I don't know what that would be called in English.

A tragic story, and yes, we'd call it something like a death angel in English (other slang terms also).

It's would go under "homicide by poisoning" in my opinion.

Re: Gangrene

Yes, that would be an important one - a leading cause of death in the Civil War, if I remember right.

Would love to see a project for it, under "infectious disease," and then it can also be associated with Civil War fatalities.

FYI: I have just added a Glossary of Related infectious Disease Terms -- not for profiles, but may help those not medically knowledgable understand some of the medical terms. If there are any terms you would like added, please feel free to add them (keep them alphabetical) or put a note here & I will add them.

I will be working on general Infectious Diseases Project that will cover both those that Epidemic (already there) and for those that aren't -- It will be like Epidemic, not for profiles, but general info... then we can add those infectious causes that don't fit under epidemic -- Gangrene would be one of those...

Have completed one for Scarlet Fever that could be used for both those who died from or survived this disease. Many who survived had complications--Helen Keller is a good example--her deafness & blindness were a result of her having Scarlet Fever.

Have completed a project for Dysentery... Couldn't decide which pix to pick so picked one with the name in it...

Martin, I found that "scorbut" is the same as scurvy-- there is a project for that now...

Did you mean tuberculosis??? there is a project for that already.
Will look to see what I can find on grippe espagnole

Since I am a nurse, (retired), it has been interesting researching these diseases & infections. Any other diseases or infections you all would like me to make a priority (because you have someone you want to add to it???)

Martin, when I entered grippe espagnole into google, it came up in French??? I shortened it to just "grippe" and got that it is an old fashioned French term for influenza, which could be added as a tag in that project. If what you are thinking of is something else, would you see if you can give me the English version of it??? Thanks.
Pat

@Martin
See this project: https://www.geni.com/projects/1918-lnfluenza-Pandemic/24138 -- The Related Project covers many, many countries...
and:
https://www.geni.com/projects/1918-lnfluenza-Pandemic-Canada-Fatali...

If you go to the first one there is a project for Canada-Survivors also listed in the "Related Projects" (click on the "show all" & look down the list)

Since there were specific years for 6 Influenza pandemic / epidemics I will do a project for each of those, so people can put the profiles in the specific influenza project by year, if appropriate, and then one that is "Influenza: non-epidemic" for everyone else who dies of influenza (the flu).

If people would like to have a project for a specific country during one of the pandemic years... a project for that country can be created, & add it to the list in the "Related Projects".

If we list the countries in the Portal project, listing it there could get out of hand... What do you all think???

Yes, you only need the "top level" on the "cause of death" portal page. If it gets unwieldly, perhaps a page listing the influenza (also known as "the grippe") projects, and that page is referenced.

Just learned my Great grandfather was killed by a train while driving his buggy across the tracks.

Is this a vehicle accident? or do you want to create a train accident category - we do have cars, planes, and boats already....

I think a "train accident" project is interesting. Will do and invite you.

Calling it "train wreck" http://www.geni.com/projects/Train-wreck/28151 but it's for death in ANY sort of train related incident. If it gets cumbersome or confusing we can spin off.

CRUSHED BY FALLING TREE

I have two in my tree who died from a tree falling on them. One was a workplace accident (in a lumber yard), the other might be characterized as a freak accident.

I would be OK characterizing both of them as simply "accidental death," but I wonder what others think?

I see there is a stub under "Accidental Death" called "Unusual," perhaps that would be the best place to put them.

Unless others think we need a separate project for Crushed by Falling Tree?

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GANGRENE:

I also have two from gangrene. Gangrene is not always due to infection, so I'm not sure what larger category that should go into.

"Gangrene (or gangrenous necrosis) is a type of necrosis caused by a critically insufficient blood supply.[1][2] This potentially life-threatening condition may occur after an injury or infection, or in people suffering from any chronic health problem affecting blood circulation.[2] The primary cause of gangrene is reduced blood supply to the affected tissues, which results in cell death.[3] Diabetes and long-term smoking increase the risk of suffering from gangrene.[2][3]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gangrene

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AORTIC DISSECTION. Examples: actor John Ritter, King George II of Great Britain.

Not sure what larger category to put that into. Vascular Disease? Heart Disease? Do we have a medical professional (or even a student) in the group?

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Should Heart Attack and Heart Disease both be listed under Heart Disease?

I have someone who slipped on the ice and was killed by a piece of the wood he was carrying crushing his neck. He HAD been cutting trees, but this was after. I think it's a plain old accident, since it's removed in time, and shortly in place, from the tree cutting.

Patricia Ann Scoggin (nurse) - do you want to try the heart question http://www.geni.com/discussions/149945?msg=1045208

I think Patricia already made a Gangrene project.

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Trees. Hmm. I have yet to make an umbrella "accident" project. Sawmill, chain saw, etc. accidents are common enough unfortunately - just added "Killed on the job" and am about to add "Killed on the farm."

I got distracted by the trivia that more people are killed by cows than by sharks, so next up is Man-Eaters! (Killed by an animal)

Erica Howton I thought I had made a project for gangrene also, but don't see it so it must be on my "to do" list--Will work on it next--still have to finish up the specific Influenza projects for: 1969, 1977, 2009.

As far as the specific heart problems... would suggest a general info for Cardiac / Heart Problems that would cover many causes of death related to the heart, which would include under that "hat" the Chronic Heart Failure & Heart Attack projects that we already have. Then as we have more specific cardiac or circulatory causes of more recent times we can create specific project from them as they come up... Keep in mind that medically they didn't know in the past what we know today.

I will look to see what I can find for the Cardiac / Heart Problems for the general project and add it to my "to do" list.

I just realized that Bubonic Plague and Black Death have become the same project, but can they be separate things?

The Black Death was a particular occurrence of the bubonic plague, the most horrific occurrence.

But the plague recurred fairly regularly and indeed is still with us. We lose a few people to it every year in New Mexico.

I'd like the Black Death project to commemorate just that one short time frame.

Can that be done?

Under capital punishment, there is, in the section on hangings, a place for notable hangmen.

We need a project for electrocutions, (maybe I just missed it? It's late here) and the we can add notable electrocutioners.

Such as my great grandfather: Robert Greene Elliott

You descend from electrocutioners? Now that "is" a claim to fame. Remember the Gene Wolfe, science fiction, Book of the New Sun?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow_of_the_Torturer

Yes, we will get separate projects going for

- Bubonic Plague (except the Black Death)
- executioners
--- hangmen
-- electrocutioners

Erica Howton I am working on a general project for the Cardiac problems "Cardiac / Heart Health Issues (Cardiovascular Diseases)"

In researching it I found that Dying of a "Broken Heart" is a real thing... Should I include it at the bottom of the above project or put it as a separate project with the info that I found or both??? Do we have anyone who has died of this??? Maybe I should just make a project for it & put it under the Cardiac / Heart umbrella and see if anyone knows of someone who did die of this???

I didn't think there would be many who would be added to the "Died of a Broken Heart" but went ahead & made it into a project anyway, then looked for more info (had found 1 site about it). Did find quite a bit more info and several people who died of this, (don't know if they are in Geni or not...) Sooo, I guess there is a good probability that Geni members may have some additions to this project. I put it under the Cardiac/Heart umbrella...

I don't have dates for these people, but have a feeling their deaths have been in the last few years...
Edmund Williams, Wales
Marjorie Hartland, Wales died after 101 y/o husband, Clifford died
Don Simpson died 4 hrs after wife, Maxine
Kenneth Felumlee of Nashport, Ohio died 15 hrs after wife, Helen
Marcus Ringrose died day after wife, Mary Tamm in 2012
Simon Monjack, 39 died 5 mo after wife, Brittany Murphy

If anyone wants to look for these people & add them to the project I would appreciate it... If you want to add more info in the project (dates) for any of them I would appreciate that also.

Yes! Re: Died of a broken heart. Perfect!

In fact we have Sarah's daughter in law in the Bible Eugene Thomas and I were trying to figure out. She was weak from a hard childbirth, got bad news, and died. Cause of death ? I'd say she "died of grief," and this project is the best we'll know.

Also, I think Amy Nordahl Cote had someone?

Amy, "killed by a falling object" is right for your crushed by a tree guy.

I've also made projects for "unusual deaths," "executioners" ( actually an occupation), "killed by animals," "snakebite," "machine deaths," and "killed on the job."

Can we get a project count update ?

PS we still need an "electrocuted" project with the section on "electrocutioners."

Also need farm deaths, and the whole category of war fatalities.

Oh, and alcohol poisoning - up there on death stats.

Also cirrhosis, then, and "wet brain"

http://www.hamsnetwork.org/wetbrain/

I will help out with the electrocuted. Have a lot of research here about that.

FYI folks: There are now projects for the major epidemic/pandemics for Influenza.