Let's start with his so-called "great-grandparents". They were the REAL Col. Edmund Scarburgh's GRANDparents - he was the grandson of Henry SR. and Elizabeth (probably Shaw rather than "Sham", an easy typo to make).
The Henry Scarburgh who married Mary Humberstone was his UNCLE, not his grandfather.
In spite of the ubiquitous myth that his mother was a "Butler", there is hard documentary evidence in the form of wills from various relatives that she was born a Smith.
*** ALL OF HIS WIVES ARE WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!!! ***
Col. Edmund Scarburgh married *once* and *once only*, a woman named Mary. She was *probably* born a Harmer and the widow of a Cade, although the reverse is also possible. NO CHARLETONS, LITTLETONS, OR POTTS!!!!!
Col. Edmund Scarburgh had *one* known mistress, a woman named Ann Taft or Toft, who bore him three daughters: Arcadia, Atalanta, and Annnabella - but NO SONS.
Col. Edmund Scarburgh had NO SON WILLIAM. His sons were *Col.* Charles Scarburgh (NOT the same Charles Scarburgh who married Anne and Katherine West), Littleton Scarburgh (godson of Ann (Southy) Littleton, died young, unmarried and without issue), and Col. Edmund Scarburgh III (who is often and carelessly muddled up with his father, and both of them with *Capt.* Edmund Scarburgh (the first Col.'s father).
There WERE Scarburghs around who were not in the direct line of descent - the aforementioned Charles Scarburgh (b. c. 1625), for instance. Some of them were probably cousins of one degree or another. Some might be *very* distant relatives from the lines that stayed put in Yorkshire or had moved to various other parts of England. And some might not be related at all (*anyone* from Scarborough, Yorkshire, could call themselves "Scarburgh" or any variant thereof).
Ann "Charlton" was not born with that name, and was NEVER known as "Mary". We DON'T KNOW what her birth name was. She married three times: 1) Anthony Huffe, 2) Anthony West, 3) Capt. Stephen Charlton - HE WAS NOT HER FATHER, HE WAS HER THIRD HUSBAND!!!!!
*She* never married any Scarburgh, but two of her children did. Her daughter Katherine West married 1) Ralph Barlow, 2) the Charles Scarburgh who was *not* a son of Col. Edmund, and 3) Major Edmund Bowman. And her son Lt. Col. John West married Matilda Scarburgh, who *was* a daughter of Col. Edmund.
Katherine West and Charles Scarburgh had a son Henry, who referenced his MATERNAL grandmother Ann by-then-Charlton - his MOTHER'S mother - in his will.
Mary (NOT THE SAME PERSON AS ANN CHARLTON) Scarburgh, widow of Col. Edmund, lived out her last years at the house of her grandson Anthony West - son of Matilda Scarburgh West.
It is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE that Ann "Charlton" and Mary Cade/Harmer could be the same person, because THAT WOULD MAKE JOHN WEST AND MATILDA SCARBURGH HALF-SIBLINGS, AND THAT WAS *ILLEGAL*!!!!!
Apparently we have another case of Vandalism to bolster a BOGUS theory that William Scarborough, the Baconian rebel, was a son of Col. Edmund Scarburgh - WHICH HE WAS NOT!!!!!!!!!
I wonder who this profile started out as, before he was mashed and smashed and Vandalized into a BOGUS "Col. Edmund Scarburgh".
And I wonder when Geni will start taking punitive action against persistent and repeated Vandalizers.
If I have to pester Customer Service until THEY do something about it, I *WILL*.
That is not even the correct profile for Col. Edmund Scarburgh - THIS one is: Col. Edmund Scarburgh, Jr.
I sweated blood and wept many tears to get that one correctly parented, wived, offspringed and related - and now various people have been screwing everything up again and proliferating MORE fake profiles.
At this point, once this tree is FINALLY gotten back into correct form, I'm afraid Ofir Friedman's tactic of Deathlocking the profiles the way he does major Royals will be required.
*Once they are correct again*, they will need to be locked against ANY modification WHATSOEVER - no moves, no Merges, no adds, no *nothing*.
I *hate* asking for this, but it is apparently *necessary* as long as crackpots and Vandals are running amok.
Mike Stangel Randy Stebbing can you privately look into this with customer service thanx. Private User i agree this is a problem but so is false accusations and calling people out.. I know your upset and i am too but some times a private message works better ok?
Standingbear Jackson says he did not do any of this:
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Matilda West (Scarborough)'s parents were changed to Edmund Scarburgh the Younger and Anna Maria Jones by Standingbear Jackson.
Feb 13 at 10:42 AM
Matilda West (Scarborough)'s parents were changed to Col. Edmund Scarborough (III) and Ursula Scarburgh (Whittington) by Standingbear Jackson.
Feb 13 at 10:40 AM
Matilda West (Scarborough)'s parents were changed to Edmund Scarburgh the Younger and NN Scarburgh (nn) by Standingbear Jackson.
Feb 13 at 10:19 AM
Matilda West (Scarborough)'s parents were changed to Col. Edmund Scarborough (III) and Ursula Scarburgh (Whittington) by Standingbear Jackson.
Feb 13 at 10:19 AM
Matilda West (Scarborough)'s parents were changed to Edmund Scarburgh the Younger and Susanna Upshur by Standingbear Jackson.
Feb 13 at 10:16 AM
Matilda West (Scarborough)'s parents were changed to Col. Edmund Scarborough (III) and Elizabeth Scarburgh (Mitchell) by Standingbear Jackson.
Feb 13 at 10:15 AM
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So who, or what, is making trouble?
What, Standingbear, someone's been sabotaging YOUR tree as well? Oh dear....
Standingbear, Michael, about the only way to work "privately" from this site is to download your tree as a GEDCOM (they have that option under "Family / Share Your Tree") and work on it offline. There are three disadvantages:
1. You lose the ability to collaborate with other Geni users, *most* of whom are honest and well-meaning (if sometimes under-informed).
2. You will not be able to re-upload your GEDCOM and would have to enter any new information on Geni manually, profile by profile.
3. The amount of information that Geni allows you to download has been sharply reduced, so you may have to do a lot of re-entry on your computer.
It may be worth the hassle to have a "backup" version of your family history that no one else can mess around with. But if your hard drive dies... (Back up the backups!)
George carlin one of my favorites had a good quote about why you can't have the ten commandments in a courtroom... "The real reason that we can’t have the Ten Commandments in a courthouse: You cannot post "Thou shalt not steal", "Thou shalt not commit adultery", and "Thou shalt not lie" in a building full of lawyers, judges, and politicians. It creates a hostile work environment." Lets expand on that and say the real reason we can't have the ten commandments on geni is much the same way because you can't post thou shelt not steal one's work thou shelt not lie thou shelt not commit a sin by screwing over others work in a building full of lawyers enginners and genologigts as it creates much the same hostile work envrimoment...
Randy Stebbing, unfortunately it's worse than just "mistakes". Somebody - and a lot of us know who - is deliberately falsifying information, including information on and connections of and to other people's profiles.
This person has been repeatedly told that his data are incorrect, and provided with correct, properly sourced information. He blows off any attempt to reason with him, and insists that his and ONLY his information is "right" and everyone else's is "wrong". This is 180 degrees away from the (usually) easily ascertainable facts.
(For the record, no I am NOT talking about Standingbear Jackson, who has merely been caught in the crossfire.)