Project Images

Wait, what's happening here? What were the objections? Let's talk about them?

I feel that if only one person is offended by an image that is being used as widely then it is inappropriate and should be replaced. I have switched the images - now have a family day so will get back to this much later today! Just needed to sort it otherwise it would be a shadow all day. If this image is also unsuitable I will have to see what else I can do!

Eastern non-Christian fortune telling philosophy/religion (I Ching) for the "South African Progenitors Matriarchs / Stammoeders" project is not appropriate

See http://www.geni.com/photo/show/6000000025965685047

Adapted old images as alternatives
http://www.geni.com/photo/view?album_type=project&photo_id=6000...

http://www.geni.com/photo/view/4560155096930045739?album_type=proje...=

If these are preferable to the one I have presently got in place then I will do the transfer later today!

My son's birthday today - so will also not be on for most of the day. Cannot follow the previous link, so still don't know who sent it.
LOVE the adaptations in previous post.
Will check in later.
Thanks for the hard work, June.
Mwa

June,
As a "lurker" (which implies that I do read the threads) may I suggest that the "beanstalk" image appeals to me more, as well as the implication that the family has "grown" from the opened cotyledons just above the roots. (The imagery appeals more to me than the obscure female figure implying nothing to me other than some obscure ritual)

I will however go along with the majority opinion.
Johnl

All,
I had a lovely white dove with a blue ribbon around his waist that I used for a male beloved that passed on. That was annoying - on a religious base for some users and I removed it.
I totally believe if any user field we as curators should take there feelings in concideration. O die liewe Engelse spelling en ekke!!!
June enjoy your day with your family they come 1st in every way. I will look at the images now.
Juds

I like the adapted bean stalks.
Maybe I missed something but thought Rachel van de Kaap, as she appears on our tree, would fall under category 3 of our Project discussion -which means different wording and picture. Am I missing something.
Daan

June I like the Green bean. I don't like "vaal" grey things. Life is grey enough.

Maybe just add the word matriag if possible. I love this one! Green = life

Juds, on that image, the 'Matriarch' is the translation of the Afrikaans SM - that's why no Matriarg.

Yes, Daan, Rachel is oldest mother & wife of an SV, so SM/PROG, to my mind. I think that was just an omission due to speed of getting new images out for us.

Thank you June for the alternative suggestions and the kind way in which you've handled my objections to the use of I-Ching symbols here. I'm fine with the alternatives suggested. I also like Judi's suggestion of green to symbolise life.

Sharon, I fully understand your request for discussion of an objection and the resulting request for change. I would gladly explain to you my objections and the reasons for it, should you still want to discuss it.

Thank you June and everybody involved for the hard work involved with managing this very worthy and important project.

Thanks Kornelius. I understood from June that your objections were that they weren't Christian or African.
I think the Earth mother image was a beautiful and very quick response to that.

Images have now been replaced with the adjusted seedling SM and PROG. The green image with all three terms on it is for the project page only. Hope everyone is happy now!!!

O Sharon skuus man. Thank you June for your continious help and changing.
Nee wat. I still don't have my English cap on today. Spelling terrible.
Remember as from Thursday I will be the one armed "bandit" and in the hospital for 3 days.So if I don't answer that is why. I will practice with the left hand though.☺☺
Lekker bang, me.

:-)

Can I use the PROG pic for a male progenitor, who only had daughters & so left his DNA line, but no surname line in the country: Carel Christoffel Rijkvoet.

I mean the PROG without the SV/PROG bit?

And, should I add him to the Stamvader Prog project or not?

The new images are great... Thanks June.
As another lurker, I agree the Eastern philosophy/religion symbols weren't appropriate, but didn't feel strong enough about the issue to object...

Good luck with your operation Judi..

There is no disqualification currently for a Progenitor if he fathered no sons.
He qualifies as the oldest member of his family line and he had ofspring.
Therefore he still remain SV/PROG.
This is just a special case and he might well have had only sons who all only fathered daughters. Likewise you would not remove the SV if the family name line stops after 1,2 or n generations

I agree - he is still SV/PROG even though he didn't have sons

Okay. It seems to me that since we were making the big distinction for women that they married into the surname line, we might want to consider that a defining factor for the SV on the men - but I'm happy to steer clear of more komplikasiesright now :-)

Can I ask that the project image (Green with all three categories on it) is not used as a profile image? It doesn't help distinguish the woman's status

Yes. Definitely.

Smile!!

Lost me now again. I used the green one that says SM because I don't like grey but don't really worry to much.
What must we use then? Vra net? ☺

I think there's only a pink one that says SM. Am I wrong?

SM = http://www.geni.com/photo/view?album_type=project&photo_id=6000...