Walter de Lindsay, of Lamberton & Molesworth

Biography

From The Scots Peerage (Vol. 3, page 4-5) < GoogleBooks >

SIR WILLIAM DE LINDSAY, Lord of Lamberton, Sheriff of Berwickshire, witnessed a charter of King Alexander as William, son of Walter de Lindsay. He also held Molesworth and Caldecote of the earldom of Huntingdon.' He was ambassador to England 1237, and party, as a baron, to the treaty between Alexander II. and Henry III. in 1244.9

He married, about 1220, Alicia, daughter of William de Lancaster, Lord of Kendal, by Agnes de Brus, co-heiress with Helewise, wife of Peter de Brus, 10 of her brother William de Lancaster," and died about 1247. Their children included:

WALTER DE LINDSAY, “Lord of Lamberton, Molesworth," 3 etc., Sheriff of Berwickshire, and Justiciar of Lothian," inherited a vast property in Lancashire and Westmoreland (including most of what is known as the Lake District), in right of his mother, and paid a fine of two marks of gold to be respited from taking knighthood against his will, and he further delayed it to make a pilgrimage to the shrine of St. James. He was sixteen years old, 31 Henry III. He granted a charter of liberties to the burgh of Warton in Lancashire, had licence to make a pilgrimage to Spain in 1260, and was ambassador to England 1265.1

His wife’s name was Christian, who was married, secondly, in Scotland, to Walter de Percy of Kildale,' as attested by King Alexander III. 23 September 1274.3

This great baron died on All Souls' Day 1271, leaving issue :

Family

Sir Walter de LINDSAY Knight, son of  Sir William I de LINDSAY Knight & Alice de Lancaster, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 was born 6 1229 in Lamberton, Berwickshire, Scotland. He died 7 2 Nov 1271 in Lamberton, Berwickshire, Scotland.

Walter married Christiana on 1249 in Lamberton, Berwickshire, Scotland. Christiana 1, 2, 3 was born 1230 in Lamberton, Berwickshire, Scotland. She died 4 after 14 Jun 1275.

Christiana married Sir Walter de LINDSAY Knight on 1249 in Lamberton, Berwickshire, Scotland.

Other marriages: PERCY, Walter de

They had the following children:

1.   M i Sir William II de LINDSAY Knight was born 24 Jun 1250 and died 6 Nov 1283. Married Ada de BALIOL
2.   M ii Sir Gilbert de LINDSAY Knight was born 1252 and died Aug 1319. Married Alice.
3.   M iii John de LINDSAY Bishop of Glasgow 1 was born 1255 in Lamberton, Berwickshire, Scotland. He died 1337 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland.
4.   M iv Sir Walter de LINDSAY Knight 1, 2 was born 1258 in Lamberton, Berwickshire, Scotland. He died after Aug 1289.

slightly different list of children

• i Walter or William de Lindsay of Lamberton b 24.06.1250, d 1282-3 m 1266 Ada Baliol sister of King John Baliol
• ii Gilbert de Lindsay of Molesworth
• iii Walter de Lindsay of Parva Lamberton probably ancestor of Lindsays of Thurston
• iv Margaret de Lindsay ..m Sir David de Lindsay of Luffness, Regent, High Chamberlain d 1268 see below
• v Alicia de Lindsay m John Comyn of Badenoch and Tynedale

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WALTER de Lindsay ([1231/32]-2 Nov 1271). A writ dated 25 Dec "31 Hen III", after the death of "William de Lancastr" names "Peter de Brus of full age and Walter son of William de Lyndeseys aged 16 are his heirs", adding that he died "on Wednesday the vigil of St Andrew"[907]. Lord of Lamberton. Inquisitions after the death of "Walter de Lyndesay", dated "Thursday after Epiphany, 56 Hen III", name "William his son, aged 21 at the Nativity of St John the Baptis last" as his heir, adding that he married "5 years ago at Whitsunday last…Ada daughter of John de Balliolo, with his father’s consent"[908]. A writ dated Thursday after Epiphany "56 Hen III", after the death of "Walter de Lyndesay", states that he died "on the day of the Commemoration of All Souls last" and names "William his son, aged 21 at the nativity of St John the Baptist last, is his heir, and five years ago at Whitsunday last contracted marriage with Ada daughter of John de Balliolo, with his father’s consent"[909]. m as her first husband, CHRISTIANA, daughter of ---. She married secondly (before 23 Sep 1274) Walter Percy. Alexander III King of Scotland informed Edward I King of England that "with his assent Cristiana widow of Walter de Lyndesay had married Walter de Percy" by letter dated 23 Sep 1274[910]. "Walter de Percy of Kyldale" paid a fine of 80 marks for marrying "Cristiana widow of Walter de Lindeseye" without King Edward’s permission by charter dated 14 Jun 1275[911].

Walter & his wife had [three] children:

a) WILLIAM de Lindsay of Lamberton (1250-before 28 May 1283). A writ dated Thursday after Epiphany "56 Hen III", after the death of "Walter de Lyndesay", states that he died "on the day of the Commemoration of All Souls last" and names "William his son, aged 21 at the nativity of St John the Baptist last, is his heir, and five years ago at Whitsunday last contracted marriage with Ada daughter of John de Balliolo, with his father’s consent"[912]. m (15 May 1266) ADA Balliol, daughter of JOHN de Balliol of Barnard Castle, co Durham & his wife Devorguilla of Galloway. A writ dated Thursday after Epiphany "56 Hen III", after the death of "Walter de Lyndesay", states that he died "on the day of the Commemoration of All Souls last" and names "William his son, aged 21 at the nativity of St John the Baptist last, is his heir, and five years ago at Whitsunday last contracted marriage with Ada daughter of John de Balliolo, with his father’s consent"[913]. A charter dated 27 Dec 1283 records the protection granted by King Edward I to "Ada widow of William de Lyndeseye about to set out for Scotland"[914].

b) [MARGARET de Lindsay . Balfour Paul shows her parentage and marriage[917]. m DAVID de Lindsay, son of ---.]

c) [ALICE de Lindsay (-after 18 Nov 1279). Balfour Paul suggests that her parentage is confirmed by her possession of Ulseby and her son John Comyn (presumably indicating John Comyn "the Black") being guardian of Alexander Lindsay, son of her supposed sister Margaret and David de Lindsay[918]. However, the chronology suggests that John Comyn "the Black" was the son of John Comyn’s first wife. Considering the birth of her supposed father Walter de Lindsay in [1231/33], it is unlikely that Alice could have married John Comyn before [1265] at the earliest. m ([1265/70]%29 as his second wife, JOHN Comyn Lord of Badenoch, son of RICHARD Comyn & his wife --- (-1277).]

Parishes: Molesworth - Manor

… The subtenancy in 1086 was held of the Countess Judith by Eustace the Sheriff. (fn. 9) From him it seems to have passed early in the 12th century to Walter L'Engleis, and by the marriage of his sister with Walter (?) de Lindsey (Lindesei) it descended in that family. (fn. 10) Walter apparently had a son Walter de Lindsey of Earlstown in Lauderdale, who granted the church of Earlstown to the Abbey of Kelso for the soul of Walter, his uncle, about 1159. (fn. 11) His brother William, son of Walter de Lindsey I, between 1156 and 1166 bestowed on Chicksand Priory (Beds), for the health of his father and for the souls of his mother and of Walter L'Engleis, 160 acres in Molesworth and common of pasture for twenty score sheep and 24 beasts. (fn. 12) The grant was attested by the donor's father, Walter, and this and other grants in Molesworth made by William de Lindsey and Walter, his brother, were confirmed to Chicksand by Henry II between 1163 and 1166. (fn. 13) Walter appears to have succeeded his brother William about 1165, when he paid £20 for the right of his lands in Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire. (fn. 14) Richard de Lindsey, said by Dr. Farrer to be Walter's successor, may have been his son, who was succeeded by a brother Walter, as in 1201 Walter warranted the charter which Richard had made to Crowland Abbey. Walter attested an agreement in 1213, but in 1216 the lands late of Walter de Lindsey in Molesworth were committed to Roger de Millers, presumably during the minority of the heir. Sir Walter de Lindsey, knt., probably, from the dates, son and heir of the last named Walter, presented to the church of Molesworth in 1220, when he would have reached his majority. He seems to have died 'before 1230, before which year William de Lindsey, who, again it would appear from the dates, was a brother of Sir Walter, married Alice, sister and later co-heir of William de Lancaster, Baron of Kendal. In 1232 William de Lindsey brought an action against William, son of Hamel, as to half a hide, less 5 acres, of land in Molesworth and in 1235 presented to the church. (fn. 15) He was holding half a fee in Molesworth in 1242–3 of Isabella de Brus of the honour of Huntingdon. (fn. 16) William died before 1250, when the lands of his son and heir, Walter, were taken into the king's hands. (fn. 17) Walter, while still a minor aged 16, was returned as co-heir of his uncle William de Lancaster, Baron of Kendal, in 1246. (fn. 18) He was heavily burdened with the debts of his uncle, William de Lancaster, and died in 1271, leaving William, his son and heir, aged 21 years, (fn. 19) and a widow Christiana, who held dower in 1282. (fn. 20). William married in 1266 Ada, daughter of John de Balliol, and died in 1282, leaving a daughter, Christiana, wife of Ingram de Gynes. (fn. 21) William seems to have settled Molesworth on his brother, Gilbert de Lindsey, who in 1279 is said to have held the manor of William de Lindsey for the rent of a pair of gilt spurs or 6d., and he of William de Brus by foreign service, and he of Robert de Brus. (fn. 22) In 1286, however, Ada, widow of William de Lindsey, claimed dower. (fn. 23).

Source: 'Parishes: Molesworth', in A History of the County of Huntingdon: Volume 3, ed. William Page, Granville Proby and S Inskip Ladds (London, 1936), pp. 92-96. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/hunts/vol3/pp92-96 [accessed 23 September 2023].

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5. < Stirnet - 'Lindsay01' > (1) Sir William de Lindsay of Lamberton (d c1247) m. (c1220) Alice de Lancaster of Windermere (dau of William de Lancaster, Lord of Kendal, by Agnes de Brus)
   1. (A) Walter de Lindsay of Lamberton & Molesworth (d 1271) m. Christian
      1. (i) Walter or William de Lindsay of Lamberton (b 24.06.1250, d 1282-3) m. (1266) Ada Baliol (sister of King John Baliol)
      2. (ii) Gilbert de Lindsay of Molesworth
      3. (iii) Walter de Lindsay of Parva Lamberton probably ancestor of Lindsays of Thurston
      4. (iv) Margaret de Lindsay -- m. Sir David de Lindsay of Luffness, Regent, High Chamberlain (d 1268) @@ below --
         1. (a) Sir David de Lindsay of Crawford (d before 13.10.1357)§D m(1). (1324) Maria Abernethy (dau of Sir Alexander de Abernethy )
         2. (b) Sir Alexander de Lindsay possibly ancestor of Lindsay of Ormiston
         3. (c) Beatrix de Lindsay (d before 1352) - m1. Sir Archibald Douglas of Liddesdale, Cavers, etc. (Regent of Scotland, b c1297, d Halidon Hill 19.07.1333) -- m2. (after 07.1335) Sir Robert Erskine of that ilk (d 1385, Chamberlain, Ambassador)
         4. (d)+ other issue - Reginald,
         5. William (d by 01.1339, rector of Ayr, Chamberlain of Scotland)
      5. (v) Alicia de Lindsay m. John Comyn of Badenoch & Tynedale
6. 'Parishes: Molesworth', in A History of the County of Huntingdon: Volume 3, ed. William Page, Granville Proby and S Inskip Ladds (London, 1936), pp. 92-96. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/hunts/vol3/pp92-96 [accessed 23 September 2023].