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About Walter Lundie of that Ilk
LINKS
- ThePeerage.com: Walter Lundie of that Ilk
- Lundie.org: Walter Lundie of that Ilk
- PatricksPeople.Scot: LUNDY, Walter of that Ilk, Sir
Clan Lundin / Lundie: Chapter Two "Lundin of that ilk" ElectricScotland.com
- Walter Lundie of that ilk, born around 1490, married Elizabeth Lindsay, daughter of Sir John Lindsay of Pitcruvie, Master of Lindsay and Elizabeth Lundie. He died in 1569, his testament being read on the 2nd of May of that year. In 1560 he was present at the Parliament held in Edinburgh that abolished the Catholic Church in Scotland. On 26th January 1564, he addressed the general assembly of the Kirk in terms that persuaded the vote in favour of the reformation. In 1565, between the dates of 16th January and 19th February, Mary Queen of Scots visited him in Lundin Tower. The Laird remonstrated with her so strongly about her Catholic beliefs that he was imprisoned in St. Andrews castle at the age of 80. He was a close associate of John Knox. He had issue:-
- 1 John, married Elizabeth Hepburn, daughter of Sir Alexander Hepburn of Whitsome (Quhilfon) by Elene Sinclair, in 1548. He died in 1557. This is most likely the John Lundin, gentleman of Fife, who appears in the Domestic Annals of Scotland just after the death of Darnley. The passage proceeds as follows:
- "One John Lundin, a gentleman of Fife, having long been sick of a fever, the day before the King was killed, about noon, raised himself a little in his bed, and, as if he had been astonished, cried out to those that stood by him, with a loud voice, "to go help the king, for the parricides were just then murdering him;" and a while after he called out with a mournful tone, "Now it is too late to help him; he is already murdered;" and he himself lived not long after these words." The King, Lord Darnley, died 10th February 1567.
- He was granted by his uncle, William Scot of Balwearie, an annual annuity of 12 Merks out of the lands of Demperston in Fifeshire. John had issue.
- i William, died before his father, with no issue.
- 2 William, who succeeded.
- 3 Andrew, brother German to William and John. He married Elizabeth Ker, daughter of Sir Andrew Ker of Fernihurst around 1560. She died around 1594 with the reading of her testament being on 26th July of that year. He died around 1597, with the reading of his testament being on 15th of July of that year. They had no issue.
- 4 James, named as provisional heir to his brother Andrew on April 9th 1600 in "anno redditu 80m. de terries et Baronia de Ardross". He married and had issue.
- i James, (assumed), see Lundin of Baldastard,
- ii Patrick
- 5 George
- 6 David Lundie of Boynton, married Margaret Johnstone, and had issue:-
- i John
- 7 Elizabeth, married John Haldane of Gleneagles
- 8 Catherine, born 1523, married Paul Dishington, Lord of Ardross. He must have died before 1545 as on 22nd September 1545, the parish records of Dysert state "Quo die Katherina Lundy relicta quondam pauli dishington feodarii villa spitale, villa scathoway." After the death of her first husband she married, in 1543, David Monypenny
- 9 Martha, married Archibald Monypenny of Pitmilly
- 10 Cecillia, married George Ker of Fawdenside. She died 25th August 1593
- 11 Margaret, married Sir Patrick Hepburn of Waughton
- 12 Isobel, who married John Melville, 5th of Raith, contract dated 30th March 1563. She died before 1570. They had issue:-
- i John, who succeeded to Raith, father of 3rd Lord Melville
- ii Margaret
- iii Isobel
- 1 John, married Elizabeth Hepburn, daughter of Sir Alexander Hepburn of Whitsome (Quhilfon) by Elene Sinclair, in 1548. He died in 1557. This is most likely the John Lundin, gentleman of Fife, who appears in the Domestic Annals of Scotland just after the death of Darnley. The passage proceeds as follows:
Stirnet.com Lundin2
- Sir John Lundin of that ilk, Governor of Stirling Castle (d c1516) (lundin1.php#link4) m. Elizabeth (Isabella) Forrester
- 1. John Lundie
- A. Elizabeth Lundie m. Patrick Halket (d 1573) (../hh4aa/halkett1.php#con1)
- 2. William Lundie of that ilk (d c1519) m. Elizabeth Hepburn (dau of Sir Patrick Hepburn, 1st Lord of Hailes, who d c1483) (../hh4bz/hepburn1.php#link3)
- A. Sir Thomas Lundin of Pratis (b c1459, dvp) m. 1. (04.07.1488) Isabella Boswell (dau of Boswell of Balmuto)
- i. Walter Lundie of that ilk (b c1490, a 1570) m. Elizabeth Lindsay (dau of Sir John of Pitcruvie, Master of Lindsay) (lindsay04.php#kirkfor)
- a. John Lundie (dvp 1557) m. (1548) Elizabeth Hepburn (b c1530, dau of Sir Alexander Hepburn of Whitsome) (../hh4bz/hepburn1.php#jlund) b.
- (1) William Lundie (dvpsp)
- b. William Lundie of that ilk (d 06.05.1600) m1. (c1550) Christian Ruthven (d 1575, dau of William Ruthven, 2nd Lord) (../qr/ruthven2.php#link4.
- c. Andrew Lundie (dsp c1597) m. (c1560) Elizabeth Kerr (d c1594, dau of Sir John Ker of Fernihurst)
- d. James Lundie (a 04.1600)
- e. George Lundie
- f. David Lundie of Boynton m.Margaret Johnstone
- g. Elizabeth Lundie m. John Haldane, 7th of Gleneagles (b 1524, d 12.1563)
- h. Catherine Lundie (b 1523) m. Paul Dishington of Ardross
- i. Martha Lundie m. Archibald Monypenny of Pitmilly
- j. Cecillia Lundie (d 25.08.1593) m. George Ker of Fawdenside
- k. Margaret Lundie m. Sir Patrick Hepburn of Waughton
- l. Isabel Lundie m. John Melville, 5th of Raith (d 03.1605)
- a. John Lundie (dvp 1557) m. (1548) Elizabeth Hepburn (b c1530, dau of Sir Alexander Hepburn of Whitsome) (../hh4bz/hepburn1.php#jlund) b.
- i. Walter Lundie of that ilk (b c1490, a 1570) m. Elizabeth Lindsay (dau of Sir John of Pitcruvie, Master of Lindsay) (lindsay04.php#kirkfor)
- A. Sir Thomas Lundin of Pratis (b c1459, dvp) m. 1. (04.07.1488) Isabella Boswell (dau of Boswell of Balmuto)
- 1. John Lundie
BOOKS: EXTRACTED PASSAGES
- Knox, John. (1950) “The Fourth Book” and “The Fifth Book (by Knox’s Continuator),” in W.C. Dickenson (ed.) History of the Reformation in Scotland: The History of the Reformation of Religion within the Realm of Scotland. New York: Philosophical Library, pp. 1–218. Available at: Google Books.
- p. 107—The first day of the General Assembly, the Courtiers nor the Lords that depended upon the Court presented not themselves in the session with their Brethren. Whereat many wondering, an ancient and honorable man, the Laird of Lundie [Walter Lundie of that Ilk], said, “Nay, I wonder not of their present absence; but I wonder that at our last Assembly they drew themselves apart, and joined not with us, but drew from us some of our ministers, and willed them to conclude such things as were never proponed in the public Assembly [which appears to me to be a thing], very prejudicial to the liberty of the Kirk. And, therefore, my judgment is, that they shall be informed of this offence, which the whole Brethren have conceived of their former fault; humbly requiring them, that if they be Brethren, they will assist their Brethren with their presence and counsel, for we had never greater need. And if they be minded to fall back from us, it were better we knew it now than afterwards. Thereto agreed the whole Assembly, and gave commission to certain Brethren to signify the minds of the Assembly to the Lords; which was done that same day after noon.
- p. 150—The persons who were appointed by the Church to carry these Articles, and present them to the Queen's Majesty, were the Lairds of Cunninghamhead, Lundie, Spott, and Grange in Angus, and James Barron for the Burghs.[Fn]
- Fn: That is, William Cunningham of Cunninghamhead; Walter Lundie of that Ilk; George Hume of Spott; William Durham of Grange; and James Barron, burgess of Edinburgh.
- p. 164—Before the King and Queen went out of Stirling, there came from Edinburgh two ensigns of footmen, to convey them into Fife. In the meantime, the Burghs were taxed in great sums unaccustomed, for the payment of the soldiers.? Further, there were raised divers troops of horsemen, to the number of five or six hundred horse. The soldiers had taken two poor men that had received the Lords' wages; which two men being accused and convicted, at the Queen's command, were hanged at Edinburgh, the third day after the Lords departing.ª At this time, Master James Balfour, Parson of Flisk,* had got all the guiding in the court.
- The Third day after the Queen’s coming to Fife, the whole Barons and Lairds of Fife convoyed her Majesty till she came to Saint Andrews, where the said Lairds and Barons, especially the Protestants, were commanded to subscribe to a Band, containing in effect, that they obliged themselves to defend the King's and Queen's persons against Englishmen and rebels: and in case they should come to Fife, they should resist them to their utmost power; which charge every man obeyed.
- The second night after the Queen's coming to Saint Andrews, she sent a band, or troop of horsemen, and another of foot, to Lundie, and at midnight took out the Laird, being a man of eighty years old [Walter Lundie of that Ilk], then they passed to Falside, and took likewise Thomas Scott, and brought him to Saint Andrews; where they, with the Laird of Balvaird, and some others, were commanded to prison.
- Johnston, William. (1894). “Of the Family of Lundys or Lundies of that Ilk”. In A Genealogical Account of the Descendants of James Young, Merchant Burgess of Aberdeen and Rachel Cruickshank His Wife, 1697-1893, with Notes on Many of the Families with which They are Connected. Aberdeen, Scotland: University Press. 207-216. Google Books, pp. 212-213:—
- In John Knox’s History of the Reformation in Scotland is given, verbatim a speech of Walter Lundie of that Ilk, addressed to the General Assembly of the Kirk, which met at Edinburgh [on] 26 June 1564, of the tenor of which oration the historian remarks: “The Courteouris at first semeit nocht a lyttill offendit, that thay sould be as it wer suspectit of defectioun : yit nevirthles, upoun the morrow, thai joynit with the Assemblie, and come into it”. The address of the stout of baron of Lundie is thus introduced in John Knox’s History:—
- “The first day of the Generall Assemblie, the Couriouris nor the Lordis that dependit upoun the Court, presentit nocht tham selfis in the sessioun with their Bretherin. Whairat monie wondering, ane anceyant and honorable man, the Laird of Ludie, said, ‘Nay, I wonder nocht of their present absence; but I wonder that at our last Assemblie, thai drew thame selfis ane pairt, and joynit nocht with us, but drew from some of our mynisteris, and wylleit thame to conclude sik thingis as was never proponit in the publick Assemblie (quhilk apperis to me to be a thing verrie prejudiciall to the libertie of the Kirk). And, thairfoir, my jugement is that thai salbe informit of this offence, quhilk the whole Bretherin haif consaveit of their former falt; humblie requiring thame, that gif thai be Bretherine, thai will assist their Bretherin with their presence and counsall, for we had nevir grytter neid. And gif thai be mydit to fall back from us, it wer better we knaw it now thant afterward.’ Thairto aggreyit the whole Assemblie, and gaif commissioun to certene Bretherin to signify the myndis of the Assemblie to the Lordis; quhilk wes don that same day efter noon.” (The History of the Reformation in Scotland, by John Knox; edited by David Laing. Wodrow Society, Edinburgh, 1846, Vol. II., pp. 422-23.)
- In February, 1565, Walter Lundie of that Ilk had the honour of receiving as a guest, within his mansion of Lundie, Mary, Queen of Scotland, on her Majesty’s return from the city of St. Andrews. This Royal visit took place on 12 February, and on the following morning the Queen left Lundie for Wemyss Castle….In September following some seven months after the date of the Queen’s visit to Lundie, her Majesty and her husband, Darnley, arrived at St. Andrews, and John Know thus alludes to her Majesty’s treatment of her former host, Walter Lundie of that Ilk: “The second night after the Queen’s coming to St. Andrews, she sent a band, or troop of horsement, and another of foot, to Lundie, and at midnight toot out the Laird, being a man of eighty years old’ then they passed to Fawside, and took likewise Thomas Scot, and brought him to Saint Andrews; where they, with the Laird of Bavard, and some others, were commanded to prison. This manner of handling and usage being onkent and strange, were heavily spoken of. And a great terrour to others, who thought themselves ward of great severity to come.” (The History of the Reformation in Scotland, Vol. II., p. 503.)
- In John Knox’s History of the Reformation in Scotland is given, verbatim a speech of Walter Lundie of that Ilk, addressed to the General Assembly of the Kirk, which met at Edinburgh [on] 26 June 1564, of the tenor of which oration the historian remarks: “The Courteouris at first semeit nocht a lyttill offendit, that thay sould be as it wer suspectit of defectioun : yit nevirthles, upoun the morrow, thai joynit with the Assemblie, and come into it”. The address of the stout of baron of Lundie is thus introduced in John Knox’s History:—
- Johnston, Alexander. (1900) “Appendix,” in A Short Memoir of James Young, Merchant Burgess of Aberdeen, and Rachel Cruickshank, His Spouse, and of Their Descendants: With an Appendix Containing Notices as to the Connections, by Marriage and Otherwise, of Many of That Family Compiled from Authentic Sources, and now Printed for the Information of the Said Descendants; in Regard to whom the Details Have been Brought Down to the Year 1860. Aberdeen, Scotland: James Craighead and Company Appendix, Google Books. Appendix, pp. xlix–l.
- In February, 1565, Walter Lundie of that Ilk had the honour of receiving as a guest, within his Mansion of Lundie, Mary, Queen of Scotland, on her Majesty's return from the City of St. Andrew's. This Royal visit took place on 12th February; and, on the following morning, the Queen left Sunde for Wemyss Castle: there, on 134h February; and, on the following February, loris, to meet, for the first time, at least on Scottish ground, her youthful kinsman and future husband Henry, Lord Darnley. Of this visit to Lundie, and the remarkable incident which occurred in the course of it, Miss Strickland (Life of Mary Queen of Scots, 1553, pages 109, 110), writes:—"The feelings with which the possibility of Mary's wedlock with a spouse of her own religion were met by the country gentry of her realm, are instanced in one of Randolph's letters, in an anecdote which he calls a ‘lyttle hystorie.’”—(State Paper Office, inedited MS, March 27, 1365, at Edinburgh, after ten at night,—Randolph to the Earl of Bedford: Scotch Correspondence):—"What mischief this mischievous mass worketh here amongst us your Lordship seeth, and hereby we may conjecture what will ensue if she match with a Popish Prince. At her coming to the Laird of Lundie's house in Fife, who is a grave ancient man with white head and white beard, he kneeleth down unto her, and saith like words to these: ‘Madam, this is your own house, and the land belongeth to the same; all my goods and gear is yours. These seven boys’—which (quoth Randolph, the writer of the letter) are as tall men as any man hath in Scotland, and the least of them, youngest, is 25 years of ago,—'and myself will wear our bodies in sour Grace's service without your Majesty's charge. and we will serve you truly, But, Madam, one humble Petition I would make anto your Grace in recompense of this--that your Majesty will not have no mase in this house so long as it pleaseth your Grace to tarry in it.’ The Queen took well enough these words, but asked him, “Why? He said, I know it to be worse than the ‘mickle Devle’ with many other spiteful words against it.” ln September following,—some seven months after the date of the Queen's visit to Lundie, her Majesty and her husband, Darnley, arrived at St. Andrew's: John Knox thus alludes to her Majesty's treatment of her former host, Walter Lundie of that Ilk—"The second night after the Queen's coming to Saint Andrew's, she sent a band, or troop of horsemen, and another of foot, to Lundie, and at midnight took out the Laird, being a man of eighty years old: then they passed to Fawside, and took likewise Thomas Scot, and brought him to Saint Andrew's; where they, with the Laird of Barard, and some others, were commanded to prison. This manner of handling and usage being onkend and strange. were heavily spoken of, and a great terrour to others, who thought themselves warned of greater severity to come."—(The History of the Reformation in Scotland, Vol Il., p. 303.)
- Calderwood, David. (1843) Calderwood’s The History of the Kirk of Scotland. Edited by T. Thomson. Edinburgh, Scotland: Wodrow Society. Available at: Google Books, p. 289:—
- (ca. March 1558)—"Lastlie, That some order be devised and established for the ease of the poore labourers of the ground, concerning the reasonable payment of their tithes, now rigourouslie exacted without their advice and consent. Walter Lundie of that Ilk, Willim Cuninghame of Cuninghameheid, William Durhame of Grange, George Hume of Spot, James Baron, burgess of Edinburgh, were appointed to present these articles to her Highnesse, and to report an answere before the dissolving of the Assemblie, if they may convenientlie; if not, to report to the eldership of Edinburgh, that they may signifie the samine to the superintendents.”
- Fraser, S.W. (1888) “Sir John Wemyss of that Ile. Margaret Otterburn (Redhall), his First Wife. Janet Trail (Blebo), His Second Wife. 1544-1573,” in Memorials of the Family of Wemyss of Wemyss. Edinburgh, Scotland: Edinburgh University Press, pp. 121–157. Available at: Google Books; p. 122:—
- John Wemyss…the laird obtained from the Governor Arran gifts of the non-entry of al his lands, and also of the lands of Strathardle, which, it is mentioned in the deed-of gift, had fallen to the Crown on the death of his uncle Robert Wemys in 1542. In 1550, however, a gift of the non-entry of the barony of Wemyss was made by Queen Mary to Walter Lundie of that ilk, but he assigned it to the laird in 1557.
- Grant, Francis. J. (1908) “Lindsay, Earls of Lindsay,” in J.B. Paul (ed.) The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood’s Edition of Sir Robert Douglas’s Peerage of Scotland; Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom. Edinburgh, Scotland: David Douglas, pp. 391–420. Available at: Google Books; pp. 396-397:—
- “Sir John Lindsay of Pitcruvie, Master of Linday, had to himself and Elizabeth Lundie, his spouse, of thelands of Pitcruvie on his own resignation 14 June 1498,…He died vitâ patris 1525. He married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Robert Lundie of Balgonie, Lord High Treasurer of Scotland. She married, secondly, David Lundie, brother-german to Walter Lundie of that Ilk….”
BOOKS: Making Brief Mention of Walter Lundie of that Ilk
- Brown, K.M. and Tanner, R. (2004) Parliament and Politics in Scotland, 1235-1560. Edinburgh, Scotland: Edinburgh University Press. Available at: WorldCat.org.
- Donaldson, G. (1983) All the Queen’s Men: Power and Politics in Mary Stewart’s Scotland. New York: St Martin’s Press. Available at: WorldCat.org.
- Tanner, R. (2013) “Politics 1560-1603,” in K.M. Brown (ed.) Parliament and Politics in Scotland, 1235-1560. Edinburgh, Scotland: Edinburgh University Press. Available at: WorldCat.org.
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Walter Lundie of that Ilk's Timeline
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Pratis, Fifeshire, Scotland
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Fife, Scotland, United Kingdom
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1569 |
May 2, 1569
Age 79
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Pratis, Fifeshire, Scotland
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