THIBAUT de Blois

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THIBAUT de Blois, son of ETIENNE Comte de Blois & his wife Adela of England ([1090/95]-10 Jan 1152, bur Lagny). Orderic Vitalis records that “Stephanus Blesensis palatinus comes” and his wife had “filios quatuor: Guillelmum et Tedbaldum, Stephanumque et Henricum”, adding that Thibaut was “hæres hæreditatis paternæ”[253]. "Henricus comes cognomina Stephanus necnon et Adela uxor eius cum filiis nostris" granted immunities to Chartres Notre-Dame by charter dated [Oct 1100/1101], signed by "Stephani comitis, Adele comitisse, Guillelmi, Stephani, Odonis, Teobaldi"[254], which suggests that Thibaut may have been the fourth son although this is inconsistent with his having succeeded his father. It does not appear from other sources that Thibaut was younger than his brother Etienne. Orderic Vitalis provides some indication of his birth year when he records that his mother Ctss Adela provided troops to Louis VI King of France at the time of the siege of Montmorency in [1108] "because Count Stephen her husband had gone on crusade and her eldest sons, William and Theobald, who were not yet of age, were unable to command troops of knights"[255]. The description is confused because Count Etienne had died several years earlier, but it nevertheless provides some indication of the comparative youth of the brothers Guillaume and Thibaut at the time. This is corroborated by the charter dated 2 Apr 1104 under which "Hugo comes Campanie Teotbaldi comitis filius" donated property to the abbey of Molesme which names "…comitissam Adelaidem uxorem fratris mei comitis Stephani nepotes…" and is subscribed by "Teotbaldus puer filius Stephani comitis nepos huius comitis Hugonis"[256].

He succeeded his father in 1102 as THIBAUT IV “le Grand/le Vieil” Comte de Blois, de Troyes. He was invested with the county of Chartres in 1107. Chibnall speculates that the delay in this investiture may have been due to lack of proof that his father was dead rather than Thibaut's own youth[257], but Thibaut’s age is the obvious reason. Orderic Vitalis states that Comte Thibaut supported Hugues du Puiset during his rebellion against Louis VI King of France in 1111, which led to more widespread warfare culminating in Thibaut defeating the king's forces near Meaux later in 1111[258]. Henry of Huntingdon records that Thibaut rebelled against King Louis in 1116, aided by his uncle Henry I King of England[259]. It is assumed that these two reports refer to the same rebellion, with contradictory dating. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "Hugo comes Campanie" became a Knight Templar in 1125 and was succeeded by "Theobaldus nepos eius"[260]. Orderic Vitalis states that Thibaut was proposed as successor to Henry I King of England by Normans at a meeting at Neubourg in Dec 1135, but when they heard that his younger brother had forestalled him, they agreed to serve King Stephen[261]. Orderic Vitalis also records that he was offered the crown of England in 1141 after his brother King Stephen was captured at Lincoln, but declined the offer[262]. He entered into conflict with Raoul Comte de Vermandois in 1142-43. Louis VII King of France declared war against him, laid siege to and captured Vitry but signed peace at Vitry in 1143. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death "1152 VI Id Jan" of "comes Campanie Theobaldus" and his burial "apud Latinicacum"[263]. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "10 Jan" of "Thibault Comte de Champagne décédé ce jour"[264]. The necrology of Saint-Etienne, Troyes records the death "10 Jan" of "Theobaldus comes Campanie"[265]. The necrology of Saint-Loup, Troyes records the death "10 Jan 1152" of "Teobaudus comes" and his burial "in ecclesia de Lagny"[266]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "IV Id Jan" of "Teobaldus comes palatinus", stating that "cuius filius Teobaldus comes Blesensis et Francie senescallus…matris sui Matildis" donated property for his soul[267].

m (1123) MATHILDE von Sponheim, daughter of ENGELBERT Marchese of Istria [later Duke of Carinthia] [Sponheim] & his wife Uta von Passau [Ratpotonen] (-[13 Dec] [1160/1161]). She is named by Orderic Vitalis, who calls her father "Duke Engelbert", when recording her marriage[268]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitissa Mathildis Campaniensis et uxor Renaldi comitis Nivernensis et comitissa Montis Veteris iuxta Coloniam et mater illorum Romanorum qui Froiepain dicuntur" as sisters of "archiepiscopi Coloniensis Frederici"[269], although the latter is shown by other sources to be their paternal uncle. "Teobaudus Blesensis comes" made a donation to Montiérender by charter dated 1139 with the consent of "Matildis comitissa uxor mee et Henricus filius meus"[270]. "Comitissa Mathildis et filius eius Henricus et Theobaudus et Stephanus" donated property to the abbey of Fontevraud by charter dated to [1125/49][271]. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "13 Dec" of "Mathilde épouse du comte Thibaut"[272]. The necrology of Saint-Etienne, Troyes records the death "13 Dec" of "Mathildis comitissa"[273]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "comitissa Mathildis mater…archiepiscopi Senonensis Willelmi et…Henrici comitis, Teobaldi comitis atque comitis Stephani"[274].

Mistress (1): ---. The name of Comte Thibaut's mistress is not known.

Comte Thibaut IV & his wife had ten children:

1. HENRI de Blois (1126-Troyes 17 Mar 1181, bur Troyes, Saint-Etienne). "Teobaudus Blesensis comes" made a donation to Montiérender by charter dated 1139 with the consent of "Matildis comitissa uxor mee et Henricus filius meus"[275]. William of Tyre records him as "Henricus comitis Trecensium filius Theobaldi senioris"[276]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Henricum comitem Trecensem palatinum…Theobaldum comitem Blesenem…Stephanum comitem de Sancerre…et Guillelmus" as the four sons of "comes Campanie Theobaldus"[277]. He succeeded his father in 1152 as HENRI I "le Libéral" Comte de Champagne et de Brie.
- COMTES de CHAMPAGNE.

2. MARIE de Blois (1128-11 Mar or 7 Aug [1190], bur Abbaye de Fontevraud). William of Tyre records her as sister of Etienne de Champagne Comte de Sancerre, but does not name her[278]. The Annales S. Benigni Divisionensis record the mother of Hugues Duke of Burgundy as "filie comitis Theobaldi comitis Campanie"[279]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names (in order) "Maria Burgundie ducissa, secunda Agnes Barri Ducis comitissa, tertia quedam ducissa in partibus remotis, hanc postea duxit Guilelmus Goez in dyocesi Carnotensi, quarta comitis Mathildis Pertici, quinta monialis Fontis Ebraldi, sexta Adela Francorum regina" as the six daughters of "comes Campanie Theobaldus"[280]. She was regent for her son during his minority from Sep 1162 to Apr 1165. "Maria ducissa Burgundie" donated property to Cîteaux by charter dated [1171/72] which specifies that she was acting while "Hugo dux Burgundie filius meus" was on a journey to Jerusalem[281]. After 1165 she became a nun at Fontevraud, and was abbess in 1174. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "13 Mar" of "Marie fille du Thibaut comte de Champagne et femme d'Eudes duc de Bourgogne", recording that she was buried at Fontevraud where she died "le 11 de ce mois"[282]. m (1145) EUDES II Duke of Burgundy, son of HUGUES II "Borel/le Pacifique" Duke of Burgundy & his wife Mathilde de Mayenne (1118 or [1120]-27 Sep 1162, bur Cîteaux).

3. THIBAUT de Blois ([1130]-Acre 1191, bur Abbaye de Pontigny). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Henricum comitem Trecensem palatinum…Theobaldum comitem Blesenem qui tenuit Carnotum [et] Stephanum comitem de Sancerre…et Guillelmus" as the four sons of "comes Campanie Theobaldus"[283]. He succeeded his father in 1152 as THIBAUT V "le Bon" Comte de Blois et de Chartres. - see below.

4. ISABELLE de Blois (1130-13 Aug after 1168). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to, but does not name, the third of the six daughters of "comes Campanie Theobaldus" as "quedam ducissa in partibus remotis, hanc postea duxit Guilelmus Goez in dyocesi Carnotensi" specifying that her two daughters were "matrem Gaufridi de Dunzei et Agnetam domnam de Monteforti in Cenomania"[284]. The primary source which confirms her first marriage more precisely has not yet been identified. She returned to France after her first husband died. Her second marriage is confirmed by Robert of Torigny which names "Herveus de Juen" as husband of "Guillermus Goeth…primogenitam filiam natam ex una sororem comitis Teobaldi"[285]. "Guillaume Goët", on leaving on crusade, confirmed a donation to Gué-de-Launay abbey made by “Bodard de Saint-Michel”, with the consent of “sa femme Isabelle et de ses filles Mathilde et Agnes”, by charter dated 1168[286]. The necrology of the Prieuré de Fontaines records the death "13 Aug" of "Domina Elisabeth…monacha, ducissa, soror domine Marie ducisse"[287]. m firstly ([1140/43]%29 ROGER Duke of Apulia, son of ROGER II King of Sicily & his first wife Infanta doña Elvira de Castilla ([1121]-12 May 1148). m secondly ([1150/55]) GUILLAUME [IV] Goët de Montmirail Baron du Perche-Goët, son of --- (-[1170]).

5. ETIENNE de Blois (-Acre 1191). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Henricum comitem Trecensem palatinum…Theobaldum comitem Blesenem…Stephanum comitem de Sancerre quod Sacrum Cesaris est dictum…et Guillelmus" as the four sons of "comes Campanie Theobaldus"[288]. William of Tyre names him and his father[289]. Comte de Sancerre. - COMTES de SANCERRE.

6. GUILLAUME de Blois (-Laon 7 Sep 1202). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Henricum comitem Trecensem palatinum…Theobaldum comitem Blesenem…Stephanum comitem de Sancerre…et Guillelmus" as the four sons of "comes Campanie Theobaldus", specifying that Guillaume was archbishop of Sens, later archbishop of Reims, "ad quem magister Petrus Comestor scripsit Scolasticum Hystoriam"[290]. William of Tyre names him and his father[291]. Bishop of Chartres 1164. Archbishop of Sens 1168 Archbishop of Reims 1176. Robert of Torigny records that "Guillermus frater comitis Thebaldi archiepiscopus Senonensis et episcopus Carnotensis" was transferred to the "archiepiscopum Remensem" in 1177[292]. Cardinal. The Annales Sancti Nicasii Remenses record the death "apud Laudunum vigilia navitatis beate Marie" of "Willelmus…Remensis archiepiscopus…regis Francorum Philippi avunculus"[293]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death "VII Id Oct" 1203 of “Remensis archiepiscopus Guilelmus regis avunculus et comitum Campanie patruus” after holding office for 26 years[294].

7. MATHILDE de Blois (-1 Jan [1184]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitis Mathildis Pertici" as the fourth of the six daughters of "comes Campanie Theobaldus"[295]. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "1 Jan" of "madame Mahaut ou Mathilde de Champagne, fille du comte Thibaut, mariée à Rotrou Comte du Perche"[296]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "Kal Jan" of "Mathildis comitissa Perticensis uxor Rotrodi comitis"[297]. m (before 1160) ROTROU [II] Comte du Perche, son of ROTROU [I] "le Grand" Comte du Perche & his second wife Mathilde [of England] (-killed in battle before Acre 27 Jul 1191).

8. AGNES de Blois (-7 Aug 1207, bur Trois-Fontaines). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi refers to the wife of "Rainaldus frater Theoderici electi Metensis" as "filia comitis Campanie…soror regine Francie"[298]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Agnes Barri Ducis comitissa" as second of the six daughters of "comes Campanie Theobaldus", and in a later passage names "comitissa Agnes" as wife of "comitis Raynaldi"[299]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines also records that "Agnes [mater comitis Barri Theobaldi]" was buried "in abbatia Trium Fontium"[300]. Dame de Ligny-en-Barrois. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "11 Aug" of "Agnes de Bar fille du comte Thibaut"[301]. The necrology of Chartres cathedral records the death "VII Id Aug" of "Agnes comitissa Montionis"[302]. m (1155) RENAUD [II] Comte de Bar, son of RENAUD [I] Comte [de Bar] & his wife Gisèle de Vaudémont (-25 Jul 1170).

9. ALIX de Blois ([1140]-Paris 4 or 13 Jun 1206, church of the Cistercian Abbey of Pontigny, Yonne). William of Tyre records her as "Ala filia Theobaldi senioris" as well as her marriage[303]. The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Alam sororem…Henrici comitis Campanensis" as the wife of "Ludovicus rex"[304]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Adela Francorum regina" as the sixth of the six daughters of "comes Campanie Theobaldus", and in a later passage names "filia comitis Theobaldi…Adala" as mother of the wife of Alexios Komnenos[305]. She was anointed queen after her marriage in Notre-Dame de Paris. Regent of France for her son King Philippe II Jun-Dec 1191, during his absence abroad. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death "1206…Non Iun" of "Adela regina Francorum mater regis Philippi"[306]. The necrology of the abbey of Saint-Denis records the death "Id Jun" of "Ala Francorum regina, mater Philippi regis"[307]. The Chronique de Guillaume de Nangis records the death in 1206 of "la reine Adèle, mère de Philippe roi de France" at Paris and her burial "en Bourgogne, à Pontion"[308]. m (Cathedral of Notre-Dame de Paris 13 Nov 1160) as his third wife, LOUIS VII King of France, son of LOUIS VI "le Gros/le Batailleur" King of France & his wife Adélaïde de Maurienne [Savoy] (1120-Paris, Palais Royal de la Cité 18/19 Sep 1180, bur Abbaye cistercienne de Notre-Dame-de-Barbeaux near Fontainebleau, transferred 1817 to l'église de l'Abbaye royale de Saint-Denis).

10. MARGUERITE de Blois (-6 Nov ----). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to, but does not name, the fifth of the six daughters of "comes Campanie Theobaldus" as "monialis Fontis Ebraldi"[309]. Nun at Fontevraud. A list of foundations at Troyes records the memory "6 Nov" of "Marguerite fille du Thibaut Comte de Champagne et religieuse à Fontevrault" where she was buried after dying "le 6 de ce mois"[310].

Comte Thibaut IV had one illegitimate son by Mistress (1):

11. HUGUES [de Blois] (-after 1163). Robert of Torigny records the succession in 1163 of "Hugo naturalis filius comitis Theobaldi senioris" as "abbas Latiniacensis" specifying that he was previously "monachus Tironis…abbas Hommensis in Anglia…abbas Certesiensis"[311]. Monk of Tiron. Abbot of St Benet’s, Holme [1146]-50. Abbot of Chertsey [1149]-1163. King Stephen granted Chertsey abbey to "Hugoni abbati nepoti meo" by charter dated to [1149][312]. "Henricus Trecensium comes palatinus" donated property to Tiron Sainte-Trinité and “Hugoni abbati Cisterciensi fratri meo”, by charter dated 1156[313]. Abbot of Lagny-sur-Marne 1163[314].

From Wikipedia:

Theobald the Great (French: Thibaut de Blois ) (1090–1151) was Count of Blois and of Chartres as Theobald IV from 1102 and was Count of Champagne and of Brie as Theobald II from 1125.

He held Auxerre, Maligny, Ervy, Troyes, and Châteauvillain as fiefs from Eudes II, Duke of Burgundy. He was the son of Stephen II, Count of Blois and Adela of Normandy, and the elder brother of King Stephen of England. Although he was the second son, Theobald was appointed above his older brother William. Several historians have painted William as mentally deficient, but this has never been substantiated. That said, we know that his mother found him obstreperous and unfit for wide ranging comptal duties. Thus he was given lands at Sulley in the North and was married off to a lady in his mothers court. His temper tantrums caused him problems early on. He did assault the Bishop of Chartres when he was about 15 and caused his mother to think twice about elevating him.Theobald had no such problems.

Theobald accompanied his mother throughout their realm on hundreds of occasions and, after her retirement to Marcigney in 1125, he administered the family properties with great skill. Adela died in her beloved convent in 1136, the year after her son Stephen was crowned king of England. [1]

King Louis VII of France became involved in a war with Theobald by permitting Count Raoul I of Vermandois and seneschal of France, to repudiate his wife Eléonore of Blois, Theobald's sister, and to marry Petronilla of Aquitaine, sister of the queen of France. The war, which lasted two years (1142-1144), was marked by the occupation of Champagne by the royal army and the capture of Vitry, where many persons perished in the burning of the church. French teacher Pierre Abélard, who became famous for his love affair with and subsequent marriage to his student Héloïse, sought asylum in Champagne during Theobald II's reign. Abelard died at Cluny Abbey in Burgundy, a monastery supported by the Thebaudians for many centuries.

In 1123 he married Matilda of Carinthia, daughter of Engelbert, Duke of Carinthia.

Their children were:

Henry I of Champagne

Theobald V of Blois

Adèle of Champagne, married King Louis VII of France

Isabelle of Champagne, married 1. Roger of Apulia d. 1148 & 2. William Gouet IV d. 1170

Marie of Champagne, married Eudes II, Duke of Burgundy, became Abbess of Fontevrault later in life.

William White Hands, 1135-1202, Archbishop of Reims 1176-1202, Cardinal 1179

Stephen I of Sancerre 1133-1191, Count of Sancerre and Crusader, died at the Siege of Acre

Agnes of Champagne (d. 1207), Dame de Ligny married Renaut II of Bar (d. 1170).

Margaret of Champagne nun at Fontevrault

Thibaut IV de Blois

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Thibaut de Blois ou Thibaut IV le Grand (avant 1092 – 10 janvier 1151), fut comte de Blois, de Chartres, de Meaux, de Châteaudun, seigneur de Sancerre (1102-1151), comte de Troyes et de Champagne (1125-1151).

Il est le fils puîné d'Étienne-Henri († 1102), comte de Blois, Chartres, Châteaudun, Meaux, seigneur de Sancerre, et d'Adèle († 1137), fille de Guillaume le Conquérant. Son frère aîné Guillaume est déshérité probablement pour des problèmes mentaux. Il hérite en 1102 des domaines de son père, mort à la bataille de Rama, en Terre sainte. En 1125, son oncle Hugues Ier de Champagne se fait templier et lui lègue le comté de Troyes ainsi que le titre de comte de Champagne que ce dernier s'était attribué, bien que ne possédant pas la totalité de la province.

Sa mère Adèle contrôle totalement la gestion de la principauté de 1101 à 1107, quand il est adoubé chevalier. Ils gèrent alors le comté ensemble jusqu'en 1120, quand elle se retire à l'abbaye de Marcigny. En 1107, Thibaut se joint à une révolte contre Louis le Gros, le fils du roi Philippe Ier de France. En 1111, alors que Louis le Gros est devenu Louis VI de France, ses relations avec les Capétiens se détériorent encore et mènent à un conflit armé latent. En 1113, Thibaut forme une coalition avec son oncle, le roi d'Angleterre et duc de Normandie, Henri Ier, et ensemble il battent une armée composée de Capétiens et d'Angevins.

En 1108, son oncle lui confie quelques unes des terres et châteaux confisquées aux Bellême (notamment Alençon et Sées (dans le Calvados. Plus tard, il les échange avec son frère contre les terres dont celui-ci a héritées dans le comté de Blois).

Durant les années 1116-1119, Étienne de Blois lui vient en aide, notamment en commandant l'ost bléso-normand à Brie, de crainte que le roi de France Louis VI le Gros ne s'en empare pendant une absence de Thibaut.

Étienne vient aussi aussi à son secours, début novembre 1118, quand il est capturé au combat par la garnison du château de L'Aigle. Au même moment, les citoyens de la ville d'Alençon, ville frontière, exaspérés par la brutalité du traitement que leur réserve Étienne et sa garnison, se rebellent et en appellent à l'aide du comte Foulque V d'Anjou[5]. Celui-ci s'empare de la ville et assiège la forteresse. Thibaut et son frère Étienne, qui d'après le moine chroniqueur Orderic Vital sont « avides de gloire » devancent l'ost d'Henri Ier et partent libérer la ville avec leurs propres hommes. Ils sont battus dans un engagement qui a lieu en dehors de la ville, et Henri Ier est obligé de se retirer.

À la mort sans descendance mâle légitime de son oncle Henri Ier, en 1135, les barons du duché de Normandie lui propose de devenir leur suzerain. Fin décembre 1135, à Lisieux, alors qu'il discute du sujet avec Robert, comte de Gloucester et fils illégitime du roi, la nouvelle leur parvient que son frère cadet Étienne de Blois vient de se faire couronner roi d'Angleterre. En 1137, alors qu'il est en visite en Normandie, Étienne, devenu Étienne d'Angleterre, lui accorde une 2000 livres sterling par an en compensation de la revendication au trône d'Angleterre qu'il pouvait avoir.

Par son ascendant et son habileté, il étend le petit comté de Troyes à toute la Champagne, imposant sa suzeraineté à cinq vassaux de l'archevêque de Reims, à autant de l'évêque de Langres et à plusieurs ducs de Bourgogne (notamment Joigny). Aussi fait-il de Troyes la capitale de ses États et devient-il un des principaux vassaux de la couronne.

De Mathilde de Carinthie, épousée en 1123, il a dix enfants, dont :

• Henri Ier, comte de Champagne et de Brie ;
• Thibaut V, comte de Blois et de Chartres et connétable de France ;
• Étienne, comte de Sancerre ;
• Guillaume aux Blanches Mains, archevêque de Reims, cardinal et légat pontifical ;
• Adèle (1140-1206), épouse de Louis VII, roi de France, et mère de Philippe-Auguste ;
• Marie, épouse d'Eudes II, duc de Bourgogne ;
• Agnès, épouse de Renaud II, comte de Bar ;
• Marguerite, religieuse à Fontevraud.
• Mathilde († 1184), mariée avant 1160 à Rotrou IV († 1191), comte du Perche.

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