Theiss Mathias Dohrs

Theiss Mathias Dohrs

• Matthias Grietes DOORS was born on 18 Sep 1614 in Kaldenkirchen, Juliers, Rhineland, Prussia.(2673)
• Baptism: on 18 Sep 1614 in Catholic Church, Kaldenkirchen, Prussia, Germany. (2674) He died after 1663 in Kaldenkirchen, Lower Rhine, Prussia, German.(2675)

Spouse

• Married to Agnes Hallerken Op Den GRAEFF, in Kaldenkirchen, Lower Rhine, Prussia, German.(2676) Children were: Gertrude Op Den Graeff DOORS.

Name Change from Doors to Tyson

DOORS, Theiss (Matthias) (1614-1663)
Theis Doors born 9/18/1614 Kaldenkirchen, Germany died after 1663. Theis Doors was a parent or parent in law to most of the founders of Germantown. Three of his sons, who went by the Dutch form Theisson, came to Germantown, and their descendants are known as Tyson. He married around 1635-40, probably in Kaldenkirchen, Neesgen/ Nees/ Neesen/ Agnes. A shopkeeper or "retail merchant,” lived in a little house on a small piece of land near the town wall. Mennonite records of village and parish of Kaldenkirchen of 1652 describe him as a retail merchant, with a building lot with a small house and a quarter acre of arable land and alongside it a quarter acre of fishery rights, worth together about 350 Reichstalers. Sometime before 1655, Theiss Doors left the Catholic Church and became a Mennonite. The Mennonites were Anabaptist. An effort was made to expel him from Kaldenkirchen. He was fined 100 gold guilders for some violation. He was unable to pay the fine, and the authorities confiscated the goods in his shop to meet it. The bailiff of Kaldenkirchen entered the Doors home, and got into an argument with Agnes Doors, who was soon to give birth to a baby, abused her, and struck her hard in the face. Charges were filed, and the case was eventually taken before Elector Philipp Wilhelm, Duke of Julich, who decreed that Theiss could stay on in Kaldenkirchen and was not to be further molested. Agnes had entered their children in the Reformed Church School but to ease the stress and pressure from the officials, they changed their children to the Catholic school and had their infant Margarita baptized Catholic in 1/4/1655. Arnold Kosters/ Kusters and his wife Catharine von Haren, parents of Paulus Kuster, were sponsors. But by 1/20/1656 the family had changed to the Reformed Church and attended there for three months. The trial record said that "Theis Gohrs or Peterschen (Doros) b at Kaldenkirchen of Catholic parents, later adhering to the Anabaptist sect joined the Reformed Church three months ago but did this only to escape persecution." (Charles Custer)

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Theis Doors bp 9/18/1614 Kaldenkirchen, Germany d after 1663. Theis Doors was a parent or parent in law to most of the founders of Germantown. Three of his sons, who went by the Dutch form Theisson, came to Germantown, and their descendants are known as Tyson. He m around

1635-40, prob in Kaldenkirchen, Neesgen/ Nees/ Neesen/ Agnes.

A shopkeeper or "retail merchant", lived in a little house on a small piece of land near the town wall. Mennonite records of village and parish of Kaldenkirchen of 1652 describe him as a retail merchant, with a building lot with a small house and a quarter acre of arable land and alongside it a quarter acre of fishery rights, worth together about 350 Reichstalers.

Sometime bef 1655, Theiss Doors left the Catholic Church and became a Mennonite. The Mennonites were Anabaptist. An effort was made to expel him from Kaldenkirchen. He was fined 100 gold guilders for some violation. He was unable to ay th fine, and the authorities confiscated the goods in his shop to meet it. The bailiff of Kaldenkirchen entered the Doors home, and got into an argument with Agnes Doors, who was soon to give birth to a baby, abused her, and struck her hard in the face. Charges were filed, and the case was eventually taken before Elector Philipp Wilhelm, Duke of Julich, who decreed that Theiss could stay on in Kaldenkirchen and was not to be further molested.

Agnes had entered their children in the Reformed Church school but to ease the stress and pressure from the officials, they changed their children to the Catholic school and had their infant Margarita baptized CAtholic in 1/4/1655. ARnold Kosters/ Kusters and his wife Catharine von Haren, parents of Paulus Kuster, were sponsors.

But by 1/20/1656 the fmaily had changed to the Reformed Chruch and attended there for three months. The trial record said that "Theis Gohrs or Peterschen (Doros) b at Kaldenkirchen of CAtholic parents, later adhering to the Anabaptist sect (joined the REformed Church three mos ago but did this only to escape persecution." (Charles Custer)

Charles Kusters follows Wm Niepold's listing of the Doors children; neither is sure that all were children of the same parents.

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Some genealogists think the following also belong to this family

(Custer);

Agnistan/ Agnes doors said to have maried Leonard Arents, among the

1683 emigrants. John L Ruth calls Lenart ARets as Jan Streyper's

brother in law (nothing was ever vaguer than being designated

Jan Streyper's in-law, nearly everyone was at some point. In-law

had a loose meaning.) Jan Streypers, writing his brother Wm in

Germantown, wanted Wm to see that Jan's five families were porvided

land in that village. The families were Jan Streeper's brother,

Willam Streepers, Reiner and Herman Tyson were Jan Streper's wife's

brothers. Thomas Conradt/ Kudners, Leonart ARets, and Paulus

Custers were their brothes in law." No ref made to Peter Kurlis

as a brother in law.

Merken/ Maria Theissen by BEcker and others. b c 1659 d 1742

Mary Tyson.

White has "?married Jochim Huiskens", she wasn't sure?

She cites an entry in 1675 in the Reformed Church in Kaldenkirchen

of the baptism of "the little daughter of Jochim Huiskens

and Maria Doors w witnesses Thonis Huiskens and Nys Doors. (Niess?)

HOwever, no marriage record for this couple. White has "Maria

did marry Jan Lykens around 1683 at the time of their leaving

Germany to come to Germantown" (White, 1683)

Many think she is the wife of Jan Luckens/ Luykens / Lukens

who came to America.(Custer) (Krefeld Immigr) Jochim Huiskens/

Johann Lucken of Dahlen or Wickerath (:WHite, who thinks they

m around 1683)

But though American writers state that Jan Luckens' wife was Maria

Theissen, a sister to Reiner, (?)he found no indication that Jan m

more than once. He noted that Niepoth said Jan Luckens m Merken/ Maria

Gastes. Gudo Gotthoff wrote that Jan Luckns m lst Merken Gastes but

that he left her in Germanyu, just as Wilhelm Strepers had left his

wife, and shortly after coming to America he m Maria Theissen.

Jack Bowman, who is of this line, says "Earliest records say that

he married Marie Thiessen, sister to Reynier Thiessen...Many of

the documents refer to Jan's wife as Mary, but there are no

records of their marriage. Niepoth... concludes that his wife

was Mercken Gastes. This comes from a written document dated

6/15/1683, which was drwon up by the Lucken siblings in Krefeld."

"In 1995 a 'conclave' of Lukens researchers got together to decide

on their interpretation of all documents relating to Jans wife's

name. They concluded that she had to be Marie Tyson. Niepoth

may be correct if Jan was married bef leaving Krefeld and his

wife died. But they could not find any documentation for the

Gastes name. "

Niepoth says that Maria or Mercken is not mentioned among the sisters

of Reiner Theissen. He also presents evidence on who Johann Lucken

did marry. Bans published on 12 Sep 1679 in REformed Church in

Crefeld for "JOhann Simes of Gladbach and Merken Wilhelms of

Gladbach". A Rheydt power of attorney in 1683 says Merken Lucken

is daughter of married couple Wilhelm Lucken and Adelheid, and

her name appears in the Quaker wedding as Merken Willems. So she

definitely was not the daughter of Theiss Doors! Nieboth also

mentions that Wilhelm was related on his motgher's side to the

Ther Mehr family.

Jan Lykens was b in 1650/1, son of Wilhelm and Adelheid Lucken, and

grew up in Gladbach.

Luykens was one of the pioneer settlers of GErmantown in 1683. He

was constable of the town 1691-5, sheriff 1694-5, d. 1744. Brought

a Dutch Bible from Krefeld, one of his descendants still owns it.

His will dated 9th of 8th mo 1741 in Philadelphia's registry

of wills, his property includes the trappings of a linen weaving

profession and some books, a house and lot in Germantown, and

two hundred acres of land joining Spipenk.

Derrick (Dirck) Tyson

Reiner Tyson supposed to have brought back to him from Europe a

younger brother, Derrick (Dirck) who d unm a few yrs after his arrival

Krefeld Immigr article argues that if not the brothers of the above.

Cornelius and Derrick Tyson were atleast cousins..

Cornelius Doors/ Thiessen b c 1652 emigr to Germantown in 1684 or by 1703. In 1684,

he might have travelled w his brother, Herman Doors. He m Margaret.

He was a Mennonite and not a Quaker. Reason to think he is Reynier's

brother but no proof.

Children:

Matthias (lst born) same name as Reiner, which might indicate that

Theiss (Matthias) and Agnes were his poarents.

DAughter supposed to have married sonof Tonis Kunders and Helene Thiessen

Daughter supposed to have married son of Tonis Kunders andHelene Thiessen.

Derrick Doors/ Tyson, cited in the GEnealogy of the Maryland Branch of

the Tyson Family, by Malcolm Van Vechten Tysen in 1902, there was a

brother of Rynier, Derrick, who came to PA w Tynier in 1683, converted

to the Quaker religion, and died unmarried soon after getting to PA,

this is the only source that mentions him.

Bibliography and sources:

Custer, Chester E., The Kusters and Doors of Kaldenkirchen, Germany,

and Germantown, Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage, July 1986,

pp 24-31.

"Are the daughters of Hermen Op den Graff the Mennonite Bishop the

Key to the RElationships of our early Germantown Families? in

Krefeld Immigrants, 14, pp 51-54

Niepoth, Wilhelm. The Ancestry of the Thirteen Krefeld Emigrants of

1683. The Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine 1980, 31 (3), 191-207.

William Penn and the Dutch Quaker Immigration to Pennsylvania

http://www.enter.net/~smschlack/gen.html. Sue Schlack

smschlack@enter.net

Judy Douglas jald33@juno.com

Jack Bowman jack@bluenet.net

Baptised 12 Sep 1614; Catholic Church

Sources

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'Pennsylvania German Roots Across the Ocean - 'https://books.google.com/books?id=dbWPG_sOk8gC&pg=PA96&lpg=PA96&dq=...
Agnes Op Den Graef, "Germany Marriages, 1558-1929"-https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JH43-S2R

Agnes Op Den Graef in entry for Martinus Daermans, "Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898"-https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNYM-NNP

Agnes Op Den Graef in entry for Jacobus Daermans, "Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898"-https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLVR-FD3

Agnes Op Den Graef in entry for Gerardus Daermans, "Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898"-https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLVR-68C

Agnes Op Den Graef in entry for Margareta Daermans, "Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898"-https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NP3X-LXN

Agnes Op Den Graef in entry for Gerardus Daermans, "Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898"-https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N821-6NT

Agnes Op Den Graef in entry for Martinus Daermans, "Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898"-https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N821-4C7

Agnes Op Den Graef in entry for Jacobus Daermans, "Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898"-https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N821-XX4

Agnes Op Den Graef in entry for Margareta Daermans, "Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898"-https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N821-LXK

Agnes Op Den Graef in entry for Gerardus Daermans, "Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898"-https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N821-6N1

GEDCOM Note

Biography

Theis was born about 1615. Theis Doors ... He passed away about 1638.<ref>A source for this information is needed.</ref>

s/o Pieter Dohrs and Lysgen Grietes

Birth

: Birth: :: Date: 1614-09-18 :: Place: Kaldenkirchen,,Rheinland,Germany Imported only 1614 from Birth Date.

Christening

: Christening: :: Date: 18 SEP 1614 :: Place: Catholic Church, Kaldenkirchen, Rhineland, Prussia

: Christening: :: Date: 12 SEP 1614:: Place: Kaldenkirchen, , , Germany<ref>Source: #S199 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page</ref>

Marriage

: Husband: Doors-14|Theiss (Matthew) Doors
: Wife: UNKNOWN-85755|Neessgen (Agnes) UNKNOWN : Child: Doors-13|Gertrude Doors : Child: Doors-17|Anna\Entgen Doors : Child: Doors-18|Peter Doors : Child: Doors-19|Elizabeth Doors : Child: Doors-20|Johanna Doors : Child: Doors-21|Helene\Lijntijen Doors : Child: Doors-22|Cornelius Doors : Child: Doors-23|Margarita Doors : Child: Doors-24|Reiner Doors : Child: Doors-25|Maria Doors : Child: Doors-26|Hermann Doors : Marriage: :: Date: BET 1635 AND 1640 :: SDATE 1 JUL 1635:: Place: Kaldenkirchen, , , Germany<ref>Source: #S199 TMPLT FIELD Name: Page</ref> Imported only 1635 from Marriage Date and marked as uncertain.

Note

The keys to this individual are his birth and his parents. His fatheris Peter Doors so he uses the patronymic "Peters". Peter's wife was Lysgen (Elizabeth) Grietes. This individual's name is Mattheis or Mathew which can be shortened toTheis; the patronymic for that is Theissen, so his children sometimesuse Theissen as a last name. I would suggest using Matteis Peters Doors as his name and putting in Theis or Theiss as a nickname. ..."Thiess Doors baptized 12 September 1614 in the Catholic Church in Kaldenkirchen, was the son of Peter Dohrs/Doormans and Lysgen (Elizabeth) Grietes. Thiess' name appears in an article about the persecutionand suffering of the Mennonites in the Jurich-Berg Historical Journalunder the surname Dahrs, Dahrmans, Peters and Peterschen which indicates that his father's name was Peter."... "Gertrude Doors was born about 1648 in Kaldenkirchen, the daughter of Theiss (Mathew) and Nees (Agnes) Doors. Many earlier genealogies of the Kuster family speak of Gertrude Streypers as the wife of Paulus Kuster. This misconception..."<ref>The Descendants of Paulus and Gertrude Kusters of Kaldenkirchen, Germany and Germantown, Pennsylvania JeanM. White, editor published by The Caster Association of America, 1991 p. 47</ref>

Theiss Mathias Dohrs

Acknowledgements

• Thanks to Hauser-284|William Hauser for starting this profile.
• This person was created through the import of Lynch-Tree.ged on 06 August 2010.
• This person was created through the import of Holler 14 Feb 2010.gedon 26 April 2010.
• WikiTree profile Doors-14 created through the import of Lupton file.ged on Jul 7, 2011 by Ostermyer-1 | Kim Ostermyer.

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• Source: S199 Abbreviation: Ancestry.com Title: Dominique Z. Delphine, <i>CABLE-BUCHER-HAWBAKER-ULERY-KESTER-PRIEST - STAFFORD - SCANLAND-PRICE - HAPNER</i> Subsequent Source Citation Format: Dominique Z. Delphine, <i>CABLE-BUCHER-HAWBAKER-ULERY-KESTER-PRIEST - STAFFORD - SCANLAND-PRICE - HAPNER</i> BIBL Dominique Z. Delphine. <i>CABLE-BUCHER-HAWBAKER-ULERY-KESTER-PRIEST - STAFFORD - SCANLAND-PRICE - HAPNER</i>. TMPLT TID 0 FIELD Name: Footnote VALUE Dominique Z. Delphine, <i>CABLE-BUCHER-HAWBAKER-ULERY-KESTER-PRIEST - STAFFORD - SCANLAND-PRICE - HAPNER</i> FIELD Name: ShortFootnote VALUE Dominique Z. Delphine, <i>CABLE-BUCHER-HAWBAKER-ULERY-KESTER-PRIEST - STAFFORD - SCANLAND-PRICE - HAPNER</i> FIELD Name: Bibliography VALUE Dominique Z. Delphine. <i>CABLE-BUCHER-HAWBAKER-ULERY-KESTER-PRIEST - STAFFORD - SCANLAND-PRICE - HAPNER</i>. TMPLT FIELD Name: Page
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