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About Sir Thomas Forster, III, Knight, 9th Gov., Sheriff of Northum
THE DATES FOR THOMAS ARE VERY CONFUSING, REFERENCES ARE LISTING SEVERAL WHICH DO NOT MATCH UP WITH HIS CHILDREN'S DATES
Sir Thomas Forster IV. B.1477 in England. D. March 4, 1526 in England. Born at Adderstone (Adderstone was variously known as Herdiston, Ederston, Eddrestone, Etherston, Etherstan and Etherstone), he married Dorothy, the daughter of Robert, Lord Ogle, and he was created Marshall of Berwick-on-Tweed by King Henry VIII. Whilst there he was given command of a troop of sixty cavalrymen just before the Battle of Flodden Field in 1513, a great battle in which he and his troops played a valiant part. He was the father of eight children. He was described at that time as “The Chief of one of the most numerous Border Clans” and, quite apart from its humorous inference regarding his prolifically fecund father and grandfather, it appears to have been an actual fact. His eldest son became the next Thomas. But his younger son, John, was to become a notorious figure on the Border Marches. (Note that whilst John was born an Adderstone Forster, he also heads up the Bamburgh list as Sir John Forster of Bamburgh.)
Children:
1. Eleanor FORSTER (m. George Craster)
2. John FORSTER of Barnborough (Sir Knight) (b. 1520 - d. 1602) (m.1 Isabel Shepperd - m.2 Jane Radcliffe)
3. Reginald FORSTER
4. Rowland FORSTER
5. Dorothy FORSTER (m. Sir Reynold Carnaby)
6. Thomas FORSTER (Sheriff of Northumberland) (m. Feorina Wharton)
7. Elizabeth FORSTER
8. Angus FORSTER
9. Robert FORSTER
10. Margaret FORSTER (m. William Heron)
11. Frances FORSTER (m. Robert Spencer)
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Sir John Forster (1502?-1602) was an English military commander and Warden of the Middle Marches.
Born about 1501, he was son of 'Sir Thomas Forster (d. 1527) of Etherston, Northumberland, marshal of Berwick, and his wife Dorothy, daughter of Robert Ogle, 4th Baron Ogle'. Trained from early youth in border warfare, he was in August 1542 put in command of Harbottle Castle with a garrison of a hundred men. He fought at the battle of Solway Moss, 23 November 1542, under Thomas Wharton, 1st Baron Wharton, and claimed to have captured Robert Maxwell, 5th Baron Maxwell; Cuthbert Tunstall and Suffolk, however, determined that Maxwell's real captor was Edward Aglionby.[link currently leads to a wrong person]
References
- Concise Dictionary of National Biography
Attribution
- This article incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: Sidney Lee, ed (1901). "Forster, John (1520?-1602)". Dictionary of National Biography, 1901 supplement?. London: Smith, Elder & Co.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_John_Forster
- ________________ 'Dictionary of National Biography, 1901 supplement
Forster, John (1520?-1602) by Albert Frederick Pollard
FORSTER or FOSTER, Sir JOHN (1520?-1602), warden of the marches, born about 1520, was son of 'Sir Thomas Forster (d. 1527) of Etherston, Northumberland, marshal of Berwick, and his wife Dorothy, daughter of Robert, fourth baron Ogle'. Trained from early youth in the methods of border warfare, he was in August 1542 put in command of Harbottle Castle with a garrison of a hundred men. On 23 Nov. following he fought at Solway Moss
- [Border Papers, 1560-1603, passim; Hamilton Papers, vol. ii. ; Thorpe's Cal. of Scottish State Papers, 1509-1603; Bain's Cal. of Scottish State Papers, 1547-69; Cal. State Papers, Dom. 1547-1602, and Addenda, 1547-65; Cotton MSS. Calig. B. viii. 217, ix. 222, 230, 278-9, 337, 360, 390, C. i. 303, 384, iii. 442-3, 449, iv. 7, 48-50, v. 24, 40, vi. 74, 163, vii. 2, 71, 76, 233, viii. 2, 14, 39, 155, 273, ix. 157, 172 287, 314-5, D. i. 308; Lausd. MS. viii. 65; Harleian MS. 6999, art. 97; Acts P.C. ed. Dasent, vols. i-xxi.; Strype's Works (general index); Froude's Hist. of England; Burke's Landed Gentry, 1900; Hodgson's Hist. of Northumberland; A. H. Foster-Barham's Descendants of Roger Foster, 1897.] A. F. P.
- http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Forster,_John_(1520%3F-1602)_(DNB01)
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- 'The Forsters of Adderstone and Bamburgh
- http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:5LguL2f_TywJ:theforsterfa...
- Pg. 14
- ' 10. Sir Thomas Forster IV of Etherstone (Thomas Forster III of Etherstone, Thomas Forster II of Etherstone, Thomas Forster I of Etherstone) was born in 1466 and died in 1520 in England
- ' Born at Adderstone, he married Dorothy, the 6th daughter of Robert, Lord Ogle, and he was created Marshall of Berwick-on-Tweed by King Henry VIII. Whilst there he was given command of a troop of sixty cavalrymen just before the Battle of Flodden Field in 1513, a great battle in which he and his troops played a valiant part. He was the father of eight children.
- ' He was described at that time as “The Chief of one of the most numerous Border Clans” and, quite apart from its humorous inference regarding his prolifically fecund father and grandfather, it appears to have been an actual fact. His eldest son became the next Thomas. But his younger son, John, was to become a notorious figure on the Border Marches. Whilst John was born an Adderstone Forster, he also heads up the Bamburgh list as Sir John Forster of Bamburgh. (GF)
- Will dated 3 March 1526 (BP)
- (GF) has his birth and death date as 1430 - 1520
- (BP) states his wife was a daughter of Ralph Ogle and sister of Robert, 4th Lord Ogle
- (JF) states his wife was a daughter of Cuthbert, Lord Ogle of Ogle in Northumberland
- Thomas married Dorothy Ogle daughter of Lord Ogle.
- They had the following children:
- 24. M i. Thomas Forster V of Adderstone was born in 1498 and died in 1589
- 25. M ii. Sir John Forster of Bamburgh was born in 1503 and died in 1603
- 26. M iii. Reginald Forster of Clapheaton died in 1565
- (JF) states he died without issue but then states he had two sons George Forster and Peter Forster - probably meaning they were natural sons.
- (BP) will dated 18 Nov 1565
- Reginald married Clara Swinburne of Clapheaton
- 27. M iv. Rowland Forster of Lucker and Wark died in 1565
- 28. F v. Elizabeth Forster. Elizabeth married George Finch of Kent
- 29. F vi. Margaret Forster
- 30. F vii. Dorothy Forster. Dorothy married Sir Reginald Carnaby of Halton
- 31. F viii. Eleanor Forster. Eleanor married (1) George Craster. Eleanor married (2) Robert Widdrington of Plessey.
- Pg. 16
- 24. Thomas Forster V of Adderstone (Thomas Forster IV of Etherstone, Thomas Forster III of Etherstone, Thomas Forster II of Etherstone, Thomas Forster I of Etherstone) was born in 1498 and died in 1589 in England. When he reached his 20s, Thomas V married Florence, sister of Lord Wharton, and they had four children. He was appointed Sheriff of Northumberland by Henry VIII. This enabled him to wield great power in helping to keep the peace for a while. (GF)
- (GF) has his birth and death dates as 1468 - 1550. (JF) has his will dated 14 April, 1589.
- (JoeF) states he was born in 1498, married in 1548 and died 1589.
- Thomas married Florence Wharton.
- They had the following children:
- 40. M i. Sir Thomas Forster VI of Adderstone was born in 1549 and died in 1587
- 41. F ii. Margaret Forster. Margaret married Nicholas Ridley
- 42. F iii. Barbara Forster. Barbara married Robert Rodham of Rodham son of John Rodham of Rodham Northumberland.
- 43. M iv. Cuthbert Forster of Brunton was born in 1551.
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- 'Sir Thomas Forster1
- 'M, #234203, d. 1526
- Last Edited=14 Jun 2007
- ' Sir Thomas Forster was the son of Thomas Forster and unknown Hilton.1 He married Dorothy Ogle, daughter of Ralph Ogle, 3rd Baron Ogle.1 He died in 1526.1 He was buried at Bamburgh Church, Bamburgh, Northumberland, England.1
- ' He held the office of Marshal of Berwick.1 He lived at Adderstone, Northumberland, England.1
- 'Child of Sir Thomas Forster and Dorothy Ogle
- 1.Thomas Forster+1
- Citations
- 1.[S21] L. G. Pine, The New Extinct Peerage 1884-1971: Containing Extinct, Abeyant, Dormant and Suspended Peerages With Genealogies and Arms (London, U.K.: Heraldry Today, 1972), page 128. Hereinafter cited as The New Extinct Peerage.
- http://www.thepeerage.com/p23421.htm#i234203
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- 'Dorothy OGLE
- Born: ABT 1500, Eglingham, Northumberland, England
- Died: AFT 1535, Northumberland, England
- Father: Ralph OGLE (3° B. Ogle)
- Mother: Margaret GASCOIGNE (B. Ogle)
- 'Married 1: Thomas FORSTER of Adderstone (Sir Knight) ABT 1520
- Children:
- 1. Eleanor FORSTER (m. George Craster)
- 2. John FORSTER of Barnborough (Sir Knight) (b. 1520 - d. 1602) (m.1 Isabel Shepperd - m.2 Jane Radcliffe)
- 3. Reginald FORSTER
- 4. Rowland FORSTER
- 5. Dorothy FORSTER (m. Sir Reynold Carnaby)
- 6. Thomas FORSTER (Sheriff of Northumberland) (m. Feorina Wharton)
- 7. Elizabeth FORSTER
- 8. Angus FORSTER
- 9. Robert FORSTER
- 10. Margaret FORSTER (m. William Heron)
- 11. Frances FORSTER (m. Robert Spencer)
- Married 2: Thomas GREY of Horton (Sir Knight) ABT 1530, Northumberland, England
- Children:
- http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/OGLE.htm#Dorothy OGLE2
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- 'Thomas Forster
- 'M, b. circa 1485, d. between 4 March 1526 and 1530
- Father Thomas Forster b. c 1465
- Mother Jane Hilton b. c 1455, d. a 1511
- 'Thomas Forster was born circa 1485 at England. He married Dorothy Ogle, daughter of Ralph Ogle, 3rd Lord Ogle and Margaret Gascoigne, circa 1504. Thomas Forster died between 4 March 1526 and 1530.
- 'Family Dorothy Ogle b. c 1487
- Child
- ◦Margaret Forster+ b. c 1505
- http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p2619.htm#...
- ___________________ THIS REFERENCE LISTS TWO DOROTHY OGLE'S ONE THE DAU. OF RALPH WHO MARRIED THOMAS GREY AND THE OTHER DAU. OF ROBERT WHO MARRIED THOMAS FOSTER.
- 'Genealogy of the descendants of the Prichards, formerly lords of Llanover, Monmouthshire, with ... (1868)
- http://www.archive.org/details/genealogydescen00smargoog
- http://www.archive.org/stream/genealogydescen00smargoog#page/n167/m...
- Descent through Greys of Horton, a younger branch of the Greys of Heton. (See Ped. 17,) Barry of 6. ar. and az. a bend gu.
- Sir Roger Grey, of Horton, Kt, will dated 14 Feb. 1540, bur. at Belford, mar. Jane, (Isabel) dau. of William Lord Darcy, and sister to Thomas Lord Darcy who was beheaded 20th June, 1539.
- His son, Sir Thomas Grey, of Horton, Kt. died at his house at Bethnal Green, 7th, bur. 10th Aug., 1590, mar. 'Dorothy', dau. of Ralph, Lord Ogle, issue six co-heiresses. (See Scheme, No. CI. Ped. 17.) 1. — Isabel, mar. Sir Ralph Grey, of Chillingham, ancestor of Lords Grey, Ossulston, and Durham. 2. — Anne, mar. Robert Clavering, of Callaly. 3. — Margery, mar. John, son and heir of Sir George Heron, Kt. of Chipchase Castle. 4. — Ursula, mar. Humphery Heron, of Bokenfield. 5. — Catharine, mar. John Carr, of Woodhall. 6.— Judith, or Eden, mar. (3rd husband) Lisle, of Gosforth.
- http://www.archive.org/stream/genealogydescen00smargoog#page/n181/m...
- 33. — Their son, Ralph, 3rd Lord Ogle, who d. 1513, mar. Margaret, d. of Sir William Gascoyne. (See Scheme, No. CL. at Page 102.)
- 34. — Their son, Robert, 4th Lord Ogle, born 1491, mar. Anne, d. of Thomas Lumley, (son and heir of Sir George, Lord Lumley) by his wife Lady Elizabeth Plantagenet, nat. dau. of King Edward IV. by Lady Elizabeth Lucy.
- 35 — Their son, Robert, 5th Lord Ogle, who died 1546, mar. Dorothy, dau. of Sir Henry Widdrington, of Widdrington.
- ' 36. — Their dau. Dorothy Ogle, mar. Sir Thomas Foster, of Etherstone; Marshall of Berwick. (Raine, and Hodgson.)
- Descent through Foster, of Ederstone.
- A. — Foster mar. Etherstone, of Etherstone. (Raine.)
- Ar. a chev. vert. between three bugles sa. (Foster.)
- Ar. on a bend cottised sa. three martletts or. (Etherstone.)
- B. — John Foster, of Etherstone, mar. the dau. of Fetherstonehaugh, of Stanhope Hall, co. Pal.
- C. — Their son, Thomas Foster, of Etherstone, (will dated 1526), mar. the dau. of Sir William Hilton, by Margery, d. of Sir William Bowes. (As above, Ped. Lumley.)
- ' D. — Sir Thomas Foster, of Etherstone, mar. Dorothy Ogle, (as above.) (Scheme at Page 102.)
- 37. — Their dau.Margaret Foster, mar. William, son of Sir W. Heron, of Ford Castle. (see below.)
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- ' A history of Northumberland. issued under the direction of the Northumberland county history committee (1893) Vol.1
- http://www.archive.org/details/historyofnorthum01nort
- http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofnorthum01nort#page/228/mode/1up
- CHART - FORSTER OF ADDERSTONE.a
- SEE DOCUMENTS
- 1. Thomas Forster of Adderstone. married .... daughter of Baron Hilton, sister of the blind Baron.
- 2. 'Sir Thos. Forster of Adderstone, knight, marshal of Berwick. Will dated 4 Mar 1526: 'to be buried in Bamburgh quere besides ye bodies of my father and mother.' married Dorothy, daughter of Robert, Lord Ogle. ch: Thomas, John, Reginald, Rowland, Elizabeth, Margaret, Dorothy, Eleanor.
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Knight, High Sheriff of Northumberland in 1569
References
- <“The Forsters of Adderstone and Bamburgh”> PDF. (2007) (Page 15)
Sir Thomas Forster, III, Knight, 9th Gov., Sheriff of Northum's Timeline
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