Sir John Lyon, IV, Knight, of Glamis

Lyon, Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne
"The record narrative of the family begins with John Lyon [m. Princess Johanna, daughter of King Robert II of Scotland]."

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Sir John Lyon, Thane of Glamis, jure uxoris Thane of Tannadyce (c.1340-1382), son of John de Lyon, feudal Baron of Forteviot, was Chamberlain of Scotland between 1377 and 1382.

Sir John is widely accepted as being the progenitor of Clan Lyon, a claim verified by renowned historian Sir Ian Moncreiffe of that Ilk, Bart. His origins were French, his surname being an anglicised version of the gallic de Leon.

He married Princess Joanna, daughter of Robert II, who granted him his title. The Princess was the widow of Sir John Keith.

He was killed during a quarrel with Sir James Lindsay of Crawford near Menmuir in Angus.

Sir John Lyon was the great great grandchild of John Feudal Baron of Forteviot de Lyon who was born in Norfolk, England around 1250.

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Direct ancestor of Queen Mother, Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Charles, etc. through the Bowes-Lyon family of Scotland

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Sir John Lyon is an ancestor of Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother (formerly Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon), meaning that the current British monarch is also descended from him.

Sir John Lyon was the son of Sir John Lyon (c. 1290 - ?), feudal baron of Forteviot and Forgandenny in Perthshire, and Curteton and Drumgowan in Aberdeenshire. Sir John is widely accepted as being the progenitor of Clan Lyon, a claim verified by renowned historian Sir Iain Moncreiffe of that Ilk. His origins were French, his surname being an anglicised version of the Norman de Leonne.

He was first appointed to a position at the Scottish court sometime prior to 1368 in the reign of David II, when he was given the responsibility of examining the records of the Chamberlain. He was appointed Keeper of the Privy Seal upon the accession of Robert II; from c. 1375 he was the Keeper of Edinburgh Castle, and was appointed Lord Chamberlain in 1377, both positions he was to hold till his death.

From at least as early as 1367 he started to acquire various properties, from the Earl of Ross in 1367, from John de Hay in 1368. He acquired the thanage of Glamis from his future father-in-law in March 1372. He was knighted sometime prior to 1377. He was killed (perhaps rather treacherously) on 4 November 1382 during a quarrel with Sir James Lindsay of Crawford, nephew of the King, near Menmuir in Angus.

Sometime in 1376, Sir John Lyon married Princess Johanna (Jean), daughter of Robert II and Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure of Rowallan. The Princess was the widow of Sir John Keith, eldest son of the Earl Marischal. After Sir John Lyon's death, Johanna married Sir James Sandilands. Sir John Lyon and the Princess had only one child, another Sir John Lyon.

On 28 June 1445, his grandson, Patrick Lyon was created Lord Glamis. In 1606, Patrick, 9th Lord Glamis was created Earl of Kinghorne.

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ID: I51192 Name: John Lyon Surname: Lyon Given Name: John Prefix: Sir Sex: M Birth: ABT 1345 in Forteviot, Perthshire, Scotland Death: 4 Nov 1382 in Glamis, Angus, Scotland Burial: Scone Abbey, Scone, Perthshire, Scotland _UID: E7578DF29B497D4FBC8A62115279DF431394 Note:

John Lyon, with whom the record of the family commences, leaps into fame and power in the reign of David II. His rank in life may be inferred from the fact that from his first appearance we find him fully equipped for his career as a courtier, statesman, and diplomatist. He was in the serivce of the Crown prior to 9 July 1368, as appears from the inductive clause in the charter of Courtastoune granted to him in that year, but the earliest record reference to his official position at Court is on 13 January 1368-69, when he is designed ‘clericus domini nostri regis,’ on his appointment as one of the auditors to examine the accounts of the Cahmberlain of Scotland. He remained auditor until his own appointment as Chamberlain. In the same year (1369) he was dispatched on a mission to London, and in the English state papers he is referred to as the ‘Clerk of the Privy Seal of the King of Scotland.’

On the sccession of Robert II in 1371 he was appointed Keeper of the Privy Seal. On 10 October 1375, Queen Euphemia, the second wife of Robert II assigned to him certain liferent duties payable to her out of the revenues of the Castle of Edingburgh, of which John Lyon was then Keeper. Thee is a precept by the King dated at Dunbermlyn 25 June 1380, directing the auditors of the royal accounts to allow to John Lyon (whom he and his eldest son had appointed keeper for life) the whole expenses disbursed by the Chamberlain in fortifying and furnishing the Castle of Edinburgh with porvisions, warlike instruments, and all other necessaries. On 20 October 1377 he was appointed Chamberlain of Scotland, then the most importan office in the disposal of the Crown. This position he retained until his death. In the spring of 1382 he was again engaged in a mission to England.

His acquisitions of property date from an early period in his career. On 10 July 1367 he acquired from Walter, Earl of Ross and Euphame his wife, the lands of Fordell in the barony of Forgandenny, and on 28 May 1368 from John de Hay, lord of Tullibothwell, Ballydireth, now Bandirran, in the Fenton’s barony of Coulas; on 13 April 1370 from the above John de Hay, Tolynachton, with the pertinents and native men thereof in the forest of Buyne and sheriffdom of Banff; In 1370 from Walter de Lesly, Knight, Lord of Philorth, twenty oxgates of land in Monorgan, with three acres of meadow, three cruives, and a yair called Brakeless, a grant confirmed in 1371 by Andrew de Lesley, Lord of that Ilk; in this charter John Lyon is designated ‘of Forteviot.’ The lands of Longforgan he acquired in three separate portions; the first or Pyngle’s part was acquired from Adam de Pryngle, burgess of Aberdeen, the discharge of the purchase price being dated 20 march 1374; the second or Bruce’s part of Longforgan he got in excambion for certain other lands, from Agnes, wife of Sir Robert de Ramesay, Knight, on 28 April 1377; the third or Scarlet’s part was resigned by Thomas Scarlet on 6 June 1377, and confirmed to John Lyon 14 July 1378; these lands were erected into a barony by charter from Robert II 2 October 1378. On 8 April 1373 he acquired in tack from William de Meldrum Altermony and Dalrevach in Stirling. On 18 February 1375 he had a grant from the convent of Arbroath of the lands belonging to the abbey within the territory of Glamis. On 29 June 1378, he had a lease from the Abbot of Dunfermline of the lands of Fothros and Schenevale, near Portyncrak in Fife, for services rendered to the monastery; this lease was transferred into a heritable right in his grandson’s time, the grantee being taken bound not to remove any of the nativi without the consent of the convent. On 22 March 1379 he had a liferent from Alexander, Abbot of Scone and the monastery thereof, of the lands of Kambusmychell and the two Collanays which belonged to Mariota de Buthirgask, to be holden of the convent for five merks sterling yearly. In 1379 he purchased from John McKelly the Island of Inchkeith, the Crown confirmation dated the following day containing a clause prohibiting any one from hunting or hawking on the island without leave from Sir John Lyon under a penalty of ten pounds sterling. From William, Earl of Douglas and Mar, he had a grant of the lands of Balmukedy and Ballynchore, the precept of sasine being dated 21 February 1380. On 20 March 1381 he acquired from Hugh de Ross, lord of the west part of Kynfawnys, the lands of Kindongwane and Clevekippowie or Kippowcleft in the shire of Fife.

His first acquisition from the Crown was the lands of Courtastoune in the territory of Garioch and shire of Aberdeen, granted him on 9 July 1368 by David II. On 18 March 1372 Robert II granted him in free barony the lands of the thanage of Glamuyss in the sheriffdom of Forfar, for the service of one archer in the King’s army, a grant which marks the alteration of the ancient Celtic holding into a feudal tenure. A confirmation of the charter of Glamis was granted on 7 January 1373-74 by the King’s three sons, John, Earl of Carrick, afterwards Robert III, Robert, Earl of Fife and Menteith, afterwards Duke of Albany and Governor of the kingdom, and Alexander, the ‘Wolf of Badenock,’ wherein they declare that, considering the deserts of John Lyon and his very faithful service, they confirm and ratify the grant for themselves and their heirs, and promise that never in any future time shall they impugn or revoke the same, even if any of them shall attain the Royal dignity. On 30 January 1380 he received a new investiture to himself and the heirs-male of his body, whom failing, to Patrick his nephew, whom failing, to Michael, brother-german of Patrick, and the substitutes so names are the only references to the collateral branches of the House of Lyon in existence at that period. From the date of the royal grant Glamis became the chief seat fo the family. Malcolm II died at Glamis on 25 November 1034 and the national records, so far as in existence, prove that it remained part of the royal patrimony until 1372. On 27 June 1376 King Robert II granted ‘dilecto consanguineo nostro Johanni de Ross et Johanni Lyovne’ the lands of Bondyton of Lathame, the carucate of land called Redeplowland and others in the sheriffdom of Berwick. On 4 October 1376 King Robert II granted ‘to his dearest son John Lyon and Johanna his wife, the King’s beloved daughter,’ the thanedom of Tannadyce in the sheriffdom of Forfar. He further received from the Crown on 9 August 1378 the Loch of Forfar with the fishings thereof and eel chest; on 27 September 1379 certain lands in Thuriston, Wodhall, and Wodoley, in the constabulary of Haddington; on 24 December 1381 the whole burgh of Kinghorne with the manor place, lands, rents, and forests belonging to the King in the Constabulary of Kinghore, reserving only the whold great customs of the burgh due from wool, skins and hides; on 30 August 1382 an annualrent of four chalders of victual and £10 sterling, out of the lands of Doune in Banffshire, in the gift of the Crown, and on the same date a charter of the lands of Glendowachy. He had in addition to these lands several grants of escheats from the Crown.

By an indenture dated 17 September 1380, between Sir John on the one part, and the Abbot and convent of Scone on the other, he gifted to the monastery all his lands in the burgh of Perth, in the north street thereof, and on the north side of that street, with an annualrent of fifty shillings, payable out of the land of Thomas de Sallaris in said burgh, for which the Abbot and convent obliged themselves to perform a mass daily at the altar of the Blessed Virgin in the great church of the monastery, where the said Sir John desired to be buried, for the souls of himself and Dame Jean his wife, daughter of Robert, King of Scots, and for the sould of the whole burgesses of Perth.

Sir John Lyon was knighted before 2 October 1377. He was slain on 4 November 1382 by Sir James Lindsay of Crawford. The only contemporary narrative of the event is contained in the accounts of Robert, Earl of Fife and Menteith, who succeeded Sir John in the office of Chamberlain, and who states that his death took place on the 4 of November, ‘suddenly and unexpectedly.’ The ‘Liber Pluscardensis’ states that the deed was done at night when the victim was in bed and unsuspecting. All the early references to the catastrophe indicate the belief of the writers that there was foul play, and Lindsay was compelled to flee from Court to elude the vengeance of the King. The even marked the beginning of a feud between the families which remained unhealed for centuries. Many of our old writers were tempted to step aside from the beaten track of their dry annals to celebrate in verse and prose the merits of one who in his day played so important a part in the life of the nation. And sice customs and manners have changed greatly in five centuries while human nature has changed not, we may yet discern in the rugged lines of the old makkar the secrets of the Chamberlain’s success:

Plesand but peir, and weill gevin in all thing; Lustie and large, plesand of hyde and hew, Mansweit and melk, rycht secreit als and trew; Baith digest (als) rycht circumspect and wyss; Aboue all vther in his tyme, I reid Of pulchritude and fairnes did exceid. For that same caus as trow rycht weill I can, Rycht tenderlie him louit mony man;

The King him louit also ouir the laue, And gaif him oucht that he plesit to haif, For his vertu and for his fairnes als, So trew he wes that he was neuir fund fals, Expert he was to dyte and wryte rycht fair, Thairfoir the King maid him his secretair, And of his signet gaif him all the cuir, With othir office of him that he buir.

He was, by the King’s own direction, interred in the Abbey Chruch of Scone, where his Majesty intended his own body should be committed to its rest, and where, at his death, he was actually interred. From his complexion Sir John was styled the ‘whyte Lyon.’

Sir John’s wife was the Princess Johanna Stewart, on of the daughters of King Robert II by his first wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Adam Mure of Rowallan. The Princess had three husbands. On 17 January 1373-74 she was married to Sir John Keith, eldest son of Sir William Keith, Marischal of Scotland, and she was left a widow before 27 December 1375. Her marriage with Sir John Lyon took place between 27 June and 4 October 1376, on which latter date the King designes him ‘his dearest son.’ The union was at first a secret, and two years later on 10 May 1378, the King publicly acknowledged Sir John as his son, and, with consent of his three sons above hames, granted to the spouses letters of acknowledgment and remission for any clandestine marriage formerly contracted by the, in regard a marriage had been solemnly celebrated between them in face of the Church, in presence of the King and his sons and other friends and relatives. The tocher of the Princess was the thanedom of Tannadyce. After Sir John’s death she married Sir James Sandilands of Calder. On 20 November 1384 King Rober II granted to Sir James, on his own resignation, the baronies of Dalzell, Motherwell, and Wiston, in the sheriffdom of Lanark, to be held by Sir James and Johanna, the King’s daughter, ‘whom God willing he is about to take to wife.’ In the last reference observed to the Princess in 1404 she is designed ‘Lady Johanna, Lady of Glammys.’ She was interred with her husband in the monastery of Scone. So far as appears, the only child of the union between Sir John and the Princess was his son and successor. [The Scots Peerage VIII:263-269]

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Father: John Lyons Lord of Warkworth b: ABT 1316 in Warkworth, Northumberland, England Mother: Margery St John b: ABT 1330

Marriage 1 Johanna Stewart b: ABT 1350 in Dundonald Castle, Ayrshire, Scotland

Married: 1375 Note: Weir says married 1376.

Children

John Lyon b: ABT 1377 in Glamis, Angus, Scotland

Sources:

Repository: Title: The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant Author: Editor: G.E. Cokayne, with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden Publication: St. Catherine Press, 29 Great Queen St, Kingsway, W.C. 1959 Page: VIII:473 Repository: Title: The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood’s Edition of Sir Robert Douglas’s Peerage of Scotland Author: Sir James Balfour Paul Lord Lyon King Of Arms Publication: Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1914 Page: I:16, VIII:263-269 Repository: Title: Burke’s Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes Author: Editor: Charles Mosley Publication: Burke’s Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, Crans, Switzerland, 1999 Page: 2831 Title: The Lyons of Cossins and Wester Ogil, Cadets of Glamis Author: Andrew Ross Publication: 1901 Page: 4-8 Repository: Title: Dictionary of National Biography Author: Ed by Sir Leslie S Publication: George Smith, Oxford Press, Vols 1-21 (Orignially published 1885-90) Page: XVI:1233 Title: Kings and Queens of Scots – Margaret to Robert II (1285 to 1390) Author: William Bortrick Publication: 2005-2008 Burke’s Peerage & Gentry and The Origins Network

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When John married the daughter of King Robert II ( princess Joanna) he was given many titles, the highest of which was the Lord Chamberlain of Scotland. He was the Court treasurer for several generations until Thomas Lyon in 1549.

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Sir John Lyon, Thane of Glamis, jure uxoris Thane of Tannadyce (c. 1340 – 4 November 1382), was Chamberlain of Scotland between 1377 and 1382.

Sir John Lyon was the son of Sir John Lyon (born c. 1290), feudal baron of Forteviot and Forgandenny in Perthshire, and Curteton and Drumgowan in Aberdeenshire.[1] Sir John is widely accepted as being the progenitor of Clan Lyon, a claim verified by renowned historian Sir Iain Moncreiffe of that Ilk. His origins were French, his surname being an anglicised version of the Norman family "de Lyon-Levieux" of Cotentin Peninsula also written in book as "de Leonne".

He was first appointed to a position at the Scottish court sometime prior to 1368 in the reign of David II, when he was given the responsibility of examining the records of the Chamberlain. He was appointed Keeper of the Privy Seal upon the accession of Robert II; from c. 1375 he was the Keeper of Edinburgh Castle, and was appointed Lord Chamberlain in 1377, both positions he was to hold till his death.

From at least as early as 1367 he started to acquire various properties, from the Earl of Ross in 1367, from John de Hay in 1368. He acquired the thanage of Glamis from his future father-in-law in March 1372. He was knighted sometime prior to 1377. He was killed (perhaps rather treacherously) on 4 November 1382 during a quarrel with Sir James Lindsay of Crawford, nephew of the King, near Menmuir in Angus.

Marriage and children
Sometime in 1376, Sir John Lyon married Princess Johanna (Jean), daughter of Robert II and Elizabeth Mure, daughter of Sir Adam Mure of Rowallan. The Princess was the widow of Sir John Keith, eldest son of the Earl Marischal. After Sir John Lyon's death, Johanna married Sir James Sandilands. Sir John Lyon and the Princess had only one child, another Sir John Lyon.

On 28 June 1445, his grandson, Patrick Lyon was created Lord Glamis. In 1606, Patrick, 9th Lord Glamis was created Earl of Kinghorne.