Sir John Fitz Roger

Sir John Fitz Roger was born 1340 in Ashington, Somersetshire, England, and died Abt. 1386.

Family

From https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=rlmayo&id=P41635

He was the son of Aaron II Fitzrogers and Elizabeth De Holland. [is this proven?]

He married Elizabeth De Furneaux 1385 in England, [daughter of Sir Simon Furneaux and Alice De Umfreville] She was born 1345 in Stringston, Somersetshire, England, and died Abt. 1386

Child of Sir John Fitzrogers and Elizabeth De Furneaux is:

• i. John Fitz Rogers was born 1370 in Ashington, Somersetshire, England, and died 04 Oct 1441 in Bryanston, Dorsetshire, England. Married Agnes Mordaunt.

Biography

The Roger-Furneaux House, as Mr. Underwood calls it, begins the first generat ion with John Fitz Roger, born circa 1335 in England. He was the son of Aaron Roger of London and married Elizabeth Furneaux. She was the daughter and hei ress of Sir Symon de Furneaux. John Fitz Roger was her second husband and is our direct ancestor. The only child of this marriage was named John. Source: "Lineage of Rogers Family", Underwood, published in NY in 1911.

Disputed wife

Despite what is seen in pedigrees, there is no support for a marriage of Sir John Fitz Roger to Elizabeth de Furneaux, Lady Blount

See discussion: https://www.geni.com/discussions/189613?msg=1261385&page=1

And documentation of her family - which includes no Fitz Rogers: https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000084725637672&amp

JC Underwood cites Hutchins History of Dorset Page 50 without giving a volume number

Property

Nor does it seem the Fitz Roger family inherit Furneaux estates via a marriage:

Among the St. John evidence [Lansdown M.S. 860a. fol. 348] is a charter by which “Elizabeth le Blount, wife of the Lord John le Blount, Kt., in her widowhood, grants to John Purvill, perpetual vicar of Lankarvan, and to John Tokiker, son of William Tokiker, all the pasture between my wood in the castle of Penmark, and the brook there, etc. Dated 13 May, 36 Ed. III ....
Sir John [Blount] and Lady Elizabeth [Ferneaux] had one daughter, Alice le Blount, heiress of the Humfranville and Furneaux estates. She married first Sir Richard Stafford, who was dead 8 R. II, and afterwards Sir Richard Storey, who survived. She died childless, 1414-5. [Inq. p.m., 2 H. IV, No. 27.] Upon Lady Storey's death the Furneaux estates seem to have gone to the descendants of the sisters of her grandfather, Sir Simon, but the descent of those of Humfranville, and the manner in which they eventually reached St. John is not so clear. ....

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Traditional Pedigree

(Actually, first published in 1911 by C.E. Underwood)

From History and Genealogy of the Mayflower Planters By Leon C. Hills, Leon Clark Hills Pg.130
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• Gen.1 John Fitz Roger, b. abt. 1335 Eng. m. 1385/6 Elizabeth, b. 1330, dau. of Sir Symon de Furneaux of Ashington, wid. of Sir John Blount. She was a very wealthy heiress, sole heir of her father and of the 9th gen. in direct line from Odo de Fornell b. abt. 1040 in Normandy who came to Eng. with the Conqueror.
• Gen.2 Sir John Fitz Roger, Knt. b. abt. 1386/7.
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Citations

• Underwood, John Cox,. Lineage of the Rogers family, England : embracing John Rogers the martyr, emigrant descendants to America and issue. New York: Press of W.E. Rudge, c1911. Page linkThe sponsor of the Publication was The John Rogers Society
• http://burstinguniverse.com/abbott/rogers_gen.htm
• Genealogical and Ancestral Notes: ser. 1, v. 2. 47 families of Robinson ... By William Hopple Edwards Page 272 link

References

• https://blackmtnbarb.blogspot.com/search?q=Fitz+Roger&m=1