Sir Alan de Wyntoun, of Seton

Margaret, Lady of Seton. The succession to the estates of Seton after the death of Sir Alexander de Seton, the defender of Berwick, about 1348/9, is uncertain. All his sons had predeceased him, and the property devolved on Margaret who was probably the daughter of Sir Alexander, the son who was killed at Kinghorn in 1332. Information about her is based on the works of Andrew de Wyntoun and Pordun, and must be regarded as partly based on hearsay.
According to de Wyntoun 1, Margaret Seton was abducted in or after 1347 by one Alan de Wyntoun, with the result that there was severe local trouble. According to Pordun a hundred ploughs were laid aside in Lothian while the matter was under discussion, and he describes it as "Wyntoun 's war". Lord Hailes says "some favoured the ravisher, others thought to bring "him to punishment." It is further stated that William of Murray, whose sister had married Sir Alexander Seton, aided the young couple and took them into Edinburgh Castle of which he was Governor. This seems more than doubtful if Margaret Murray was really the mother of Margaret Seton.
The question is, who was Alan de Wyntoun?
There had been an "Aleyn de Wynton" who had sworn fealty to Edward I. in 1296, among the barons of the county of Edinburgh; and a "Thomas de Wynton" who did likewise, among the barons of Ayrshire. A "Robert de "Winton" had a charter of Hirdmanston before 1300 from Robert I, and "Ingelram" and "Hugo de Winton" appear in a charter of 1343. In days when the use of the surname was by no means established, and a man was known by the name of his lands, it is often .impossible to ascertain his re-
lationship. There is however no doubt that the estate of Winton had been in the hands of the Setons for several generations, and the Scots Peerage considers it may well have been given to a younger son, who then assumed the territorial name. This Alan de Wyntoun may well have been a descendant of the Philip de Seton, who owned Winton and died about 1195.
Fordun further narrates that complaint was made to the King, and that Alan was apprehended. Margaret was then subjected to the ordeal of being blindfolded and made to choose between a sword and a ring. She chose the latter and Alan had a providential escape, unless the blindfolding was not efficiently carried out. They were then regarded as wed. Nevertheless the Lady Margaret's relations, according to Fordun, made life so intolerable for Alan de Wyntoun that he went abroad, assumed the Cross, and is said to have died in Italy. It is probable, as the Crusades had stopped, that he went as a pilgrim. As he passed through London on his way abroad, Alan de Wyntoun left 400 ducats of gold with one Nicholas Zucull a Venetian merchant. In 1363 his son "William of Wyntoun" authorised Adam Wymondham a citizen, and Nicholas Nogrebon, a Venetian to recover the money.
The document states that Alan had died on his way to Mount Sinai, when about to visit the tomb of St. Katherine there.
It Is not known when Margaret Seton died.
Source: "House of Seton" Vol 1, page 99.

Alan de Wyntoun of Seton

• Birth: 1291 Winton, East Lothian, Scotland
• Death: 1347 (56) the Holy Land
• Parents: Alan Winton & Margaret Murray
• Married: Margaret de Seton, heiress of Seton
• Children: Sir John de Seton; Christian de Seton, Countess of Dunbar & March; Sir William de Seton, 1st Lord Seton; Henry de Wyntoun (Winton) and Alexander de Wyntoun of Seton

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http://www2.thesetonfamily.com:8080/cadets/Winton_Family.htm

Alan de Winton assumed his wife's name, and died in the Holy Land, leaving besides a daughter Christian de Seton who became Countess of Dunbar and March, three sons: 1st Sir William Seton, his successor and 1st Lord Seton; 2nd Alexander Seton who married Jean Halyburton, daughter of Sir Thomas Halyburton of Dirleton (recorded by Alexander Nisbet); and Henry who retained his father's name and inherited Wrychthouses (Wrightshouses, Edinburgh). One of the oldest stones of this mansion bears the Seton's arms.

http://www2.thesetonfamily.com/history/The_Lords_Seton.htm

The Lords Seton

Before the Lords were created, the family maintained a tradition of Knights, for thirteen generations until the mid-14th century, and passed this training hereditarily to every son of the House. Eventually the direct male-line of the Seton's ended with the heiress Margaret de Seton, who married her cousin Alan de Winton, himself a Seton descended from Philip de Seton who had recieved the Charter of the Lands of Winton in 1169, and who's branch of the family had taken their name of Winton from their estate of Winton which they had recieved in patrimony.

Their son, Sir William Seton was knighted prior to becoming the 1st Lord Seton and was the first ever and first created Scottish Lord of Parliament, which made the Lord's Seton the Premier Baron's of Scotland.

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http://surnames.enacademic.com/16634/Winton

The Scottish Wintons derive their name from the lands of Winton in the parish of Pencaitland, East Lothian. Early examples of the name recording include Alan de Wintoun of Soltre, Scotland in 1214,

http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/ss4as/seton03.htm Seton of Dunfermline, Seton of Garleton, Seton of Kingston, Seton of Seton, Seton of Winton

Source= http://www2.thesetonfamily.com:8080/directory/Descents/early_seton_...

m. (c1347) Alan de Wyntoun (from Seton's of Winton, from Adam de Seton's second son).

 (((A))) Sir William Seton of Seton, 1st Lord Seton - Lords Seton Line 

  m. Catherine St. Clair, dau of Sir William St. Clair (Sinclair) of Herdmanston. 

   (((B))) Henry de Wyntoun of Wrychhouses (Wrighthouses), continued the Winton name and line (note later Chronicler Andrew Wyntoun). 

 (((C))) Christiana de Seton  

  m. George, 10th Earl of Dunbar, 3rd Earl of March. 

Alan de Wyntoun1 Wynton, Aleyn de (del counte de Edeneburgh).

Wynton, Aleyn de (del counte de Are).

Wynton, Gode de (del counte de Edeneburgh).

Wynton, Thomas de (del counte de Are). M, #262622

Last Edited=15 Aug 2009

    Alan de Wyntoun married Margaret de Seton, daughter of unknown de Seton, circa 1347.1

Alan de Wyntoun was also known as Alan de Seton.2
Children of Alan de Wyntoun and Margaret de Seton

Sir William de Seton+ d. c Mar 1409/101

Christian de Seton+ 3

Citations

[S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 1285. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.

[S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 1207.

[S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 1205.

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/s/Teddie-Amiee-Casal...

Andrew Alan De Wyntoun1 was born 1315 in Wintoun Castle, Pencaitland, East Lothian1. He married Margaret De Seton.

Children of Andrew Alan De Wyntoun and Margaret De Seton are: +William de Seton, b. 1335, Berwickshire Aberdeenshire1, d. Mar 14101.

From Earl of Winton

Paternal ancestors of the 1st Lord Seton

The following is a list of the paternal ancestors of the Lords Seton, noting that the surname was originally Seton before changing to Wintoun, and then reverting back to Seton with the 1st Lord Seton.

• Walter "Dougall" de Seton (b.c 1060, Scotland)
• Alexander de Seton (b.c.1087)
• Philip de Seton (b.c.1135)
• Alexander II Setoun de Wintoun, Knight (b.1164)
• Alan Lord Wintoun of Soltre (d.c.1214)
• 3rd Lord Winton (c.1200)
• A Winton (c.1250)
• Alan Winton (b.1274)
• Alan de Wyntoun of Seton (b.1291) (married Margaret de Seton)

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