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About Richard Talbot, 4th Baron Talbot
Wikitree: Richard Talbot (abt. 1361–abt. 1396)
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Cracrofts Peerage: Richard {Talbot}, 4th Baron Talbot
- born c. 1361
- mar. bef. 23 Aug 1383 Ankaret Lestrange, suo jure Baroness Strange of Blackmere (b. c. 1361; mar. betw. 8 Mar and 4 Jul 1401 as his second wife Thomas [Nevill], jure uxoris 5th and 4th Baron Furnivall; d. 1 Jun 1413), only dau. and eventual sole hrss. of John [Lestrange], 1st or 4th Baron Strange of Blackmere, by his wife Lady Mary FitzAlan, 2nd dau. of Richard [FitzAlan], 10th or 3rd Earl of Arundel, by his first wife Isabel le Despencer, 2nd dau. of Hugh [le Despencer], 1st and de jure 2nd Baron le Despencer, by his wife Lady Eleanor de Clare, sister and cohrss of Gilbert [de Clare], 7th Earl of Gloucester, and 1st dau. of Gilbert [de Clare], 6th Earl of Gloucester, by his second wife Princess Joan "of Acre", 2nd surv. dau. by his first wife of King Edward I
- children
- 1. Sir Gilbert Talbot, later 5th Baron Talbot later 5th Baron Strange of Blackmere
- 2. Sir John Talbot, later jure uxoris 6th and 5th Baron Furnivall later 7th Baron Strange of Blackmere and 7th Baron Talbot later 1st Earl of Shrewsbury
- 3. Most Rev Richard Talbot, Archbishop of Dublin
- 4. Thomas Talbot, of Wrockwardine, co. Shrewsbury
- died 8 or 9 Sepc1396
- suc. by son
- Gilbert [Talbot], 5th Baron Talbot later 5th Baron Strange of Blackmere, KG
- born 1383
- mar. (1)
- mar. (2) c. 1415 Beatrice ....., a lady of Portugal (mar. (2) bef. 1423 Thomas Fettiplace, of East Shefford, co. Berkshire; d. 25 Dec 1447; bur. at East Shefford, co. Berkshire)
- only child by second wife
- 1. Ankaret Talbot, later suo jure Baroness Talbot and Baroness Strange of Blackmere
- Died s.p.m. 19 Oct 1418
- suc. by daughter
Cracrofts Peerage: Shrewsbury, Earl of (E, 1442)
- John [Talbot], jure uxoris 6th and 5th Baron Furnival later 7th Baron Talbot and 10th Baron Strange of Blackmere later 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, KG
- 2nd son of Richard [Talbot], 4th Baron Talbot, by his wife Ankaret Lestrange, suo jure Baroness Lestrange of Blackmere, dau. of John [Lestrange], 4th Baron Strange of Blackmere
- Born: c. 1384
- mar. (1) bef. 12 Mar 1406/7 Maud de Nevill, suo jure Baroness Furnivall (b. c. 1392; d. bef. 1425; bur. at Worksop Priory, co. Nottingham), only child of Thomas [de Nevill], jure uxoris 5th and 4th Baron Furnivall, by his first wife Joan de Furnival, suo jure Baroness Furnivall, only child of William [de Furnivall], 4th and 3rd Baron Furnivall
- Children by first wife
- 1. Sir John Talbot, later 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury
- 2. Sir Christopher Talbot, of Treeton (d. 10 Jul 1460 at the Battle of Northampton)
- 1. Lady Joan Talbot, mar. (1) 25 Jul 1457 as his fourth wife James [de Berkeley], 1st Baron Berkeley, and (2) bef. 26 May 1474 Edmund Hungerford
- mar. (2) 6 Sep 1425 Lady Margaret de Beauchamp (b. 1404; d. 14 Jun 1467; bur. in the Jesus Chapel, St Paul's Cathedral, London), 1st dau. and cohrss. of Richard [de Beauchamp], 13th Earl of Warwick, by his first wife Elizabeth de Berkeley, suo jure Baroness Berkeley, Baroness Lisle of Kingston and Baroness Teyes, only child of Thomas [de Berkeley], 5th Baron Berkeley, by his wife Margaret de Lisle, suo jure Baroness Lisle of Kingston and Baroness Teyes, only child of William [de Lisle], 2nd Baron de Lisle and Baron Teyes
- Children by second wife
- 3. John Talbot, later 1st Viscount Lisle
- 4. Sir Humphrey Talbot, Marshal of Calais (d. 1492)
- 5. Sir Lewis Talbot, of Penyard, co. Hereford
- 2. Lady Elizabeth Talbot (d. bef. 10 May 1507), mar. bef. 27 Nov 1448 John [de Mowbray], 5th Duke of Norfolk, and had issue
- 3. Lady Eleanor Talbot, allegedly precontracted to marry King Edward IV - on account of this the King's marriage to Lady Elizabeth Wydville was declared invalid on 25 Jun 1483 by the Act of Parliament known as "Titulus Regius" and at the same time their children were declared illegitimate and unfit to inherit the Crown - the marriage was ultimately recognised as valid in October 1485 by the first Parliament of King Henry VII and its issue were restored in blood accordingly - Lady Eleanor had an illegitimate son by King Edward, Edward de Wigmore, who died in infancy in 1468 (d. 30 Jun 1468), mar. Sir Thomas Boteler (dvp. and sp. betw. 1450 and 1468), only son and heir ap. of Ralph [Boteler], 7th and 1st Baron Sudeley, by his first wife Elizabeth Hende, widow of John Hende
- Died: 17 Jul 1453 (bur. at St Alkmund's, Whitchurch, co. Shropshire)
- created
- 20 May 1442 Earl of Shrewsbury
- 17 Jul 1446 Earl of Waterford and Hereditary Steward of Ireland
- suc. by son by first wife
- Note: King's Esquire bef. 1407; sum. to Parliament jure uxoris as Baron Furnivall from 26 Oct 1409 to 26 Feb 1420/21; knighted bef. 1413; Commissioner to arrest and imprison Lollards 1413/4; Commissioner to enforce the Statute of Leicester against the Lollards 1414; King's Lieutenant in Ireland 1414-20 and 1444/5-52; Knight of the Garter 1424; Justiciar of Ireland 1425; Captain of Coutances and Pont de l'Ache 1427/8; Captain of Falaise 1428; took part in the siege of Orleans 1428-29; suc. his niece 13 Dec 1431 as 10th Baron Strange of Blackmere and 7th Baron Talbot; cr. Count of Clermont Jun 1434; involved in the French campaign 1435-42; Keeper of the Castle and Town of Porchester and Governor of Portsmouth 1451/2-53; returned to the French Campaign 1451/2 and slain at the siege of Castillon with his son John, Lord Lisle
Our Royal, Titled, Noble & Commoner Ancestors * Cousins: "Sir Richard Talbot, 4th Lord Talbot, Baron de Blackmere"
- M, #11084, b. circa 1361, d. 8 September 1396
- Sir Richard Talbot, 4th Lord Talbot, M, #11084, Baron de Blackmere was born circa 1361 at of Eccleswall, Linton, Herefordshire, England. Died 8 September 1396 in London, Middlesex, England.
- Father: Sir Gilbert Talbot, 3rd Lord Talbot16,17,18 b. c 1332, d. 24 Apr 1387
- Mother: Petronilla Butler16,17,18 b. c 1332, d. 1368
- Age 26 in 1387.—He married Ankaret le Strange, daughter of Sir John le Strange, 4th Lord Strange of Blackmere and Mary FitzAlan, before 23 August 1383; They had 5 sons (Sir Gilbert, 5th Lord Talbot, Lord Strange of Blackmere; Sir John, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, 7th Lord Talbot; Richard, Archbishop of Dublin, Chancellor of Ireland; Sir Thomas; & Sir William) and 4 daughters (Elizabeth, contracted to marry Sir John, Lord Arundel & Mautravers; Anne, wife of Sir Hugh, 5th Lord Courtenay, 12th Earl of Devon, & of John Botreaux; Mary, wife of Sir Thomas Greene, & of John Nottingham, Esq; & Alice, wife of Sir Thomas Barre). Sir Richard Talbot, 4th Lord Talbot, Baron de Blackmere died on 8 September 1396 at London, Middlesex, England.
- Spouse: Ankaret le Strange b. c 1361, d. 1 Jun 1413
- Children
- Anne Talbot born circa 1393 d. 16 Jan 1441
- Richard Talbot, Archbishop of Dublin, born 1386 died August 16, 1449
- Mary Talbot, b. c 1382, d. 13 Apr 1434
- Sir Gilbert Talbot, 5th Lord Talbot, Lord Strange of Blackmere, Chief Justice of Chester, b. c 1383, d. 19 Oct 1418
- Elizabeth Talbot, b. c 1387, d. b 1407
- Alice Talbot, b. c 1388, d. b 28 Sep 1436
- Sir John Talbot, 4th Earl Shrewsbury, Wexford, Waterford, 7th Lord Talbot, Count of Clermont, b. c 1392, d. 17 Jul 1453
The Peerage: 'Richard Talbot, 4th Lord Talbot"
- Last Edited=22 Apr 2019
- "M, #9289, d. 7 September 1396"
- "Richard Talbot, 4th Lord Talbot was the son of Gilbert Talbot, 3rd Lord Talbot and Petronilla Butler. He married Ankaret Lestrange, daughter of John Lestrange, 4th Lord Strange (of Blackmere) and Mary FitzAlan, before 1383.1 He died on 7 September 1396. But this is usually seen as a fresh created rather than as a summons to attend Parl as a peer in right of his wife issue.2 On 3 March 1383 who was called to Parl as LORD (Baron) TALBOT (of Blackmere) between /4 and 17 Dec 1387.2 He succeeded to the title of 4th Lord Talbot [E., 1332] in 1387."
- Child of Richard Talbot, 4th Lord Talbotv
- 1.Eleanor Talbot
- Children of Richard Talbot, 4th Lord Talbot and Ankaret LeStrange
- 1. Anne Talbot born circa 1393 + d. 16 Jan 1440/41
- 2. Richard Talbot, Archbishop of Dublin, born 1386 died August 16, 1449
- 3. Mary Talbot+ d. 1433
- 4. Gilbert Talbot, 5th Lord Talbot+ b. 1383, d. 19 Oct 1419
- 5. General John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury+ b. c 1390, d. 20 Jul 1453
- Citations
- 1. BP1999 volume 1, page 14. See link for full details for this source.
- 2. BP2003 volume 3, page 3473. See link for full details for this source.
Tudor Place: TALBOT (4º B. Talbot) Richard TALBOT (4º B. Talbot)
- Born: ABT 1361
- Died: 7 Sep 1383/ 9 Sep 1396, London (of Goodrich, Herefs)
- Father: Gilbert TALBOT (3° B. Talbot)
- Mother: Petronella BUTLER
- Married: Ankaret STRANGE (B. Strange of Blackmere) 23 Aug 1383
- Children:
- 1. John TALBOT (1º E. Shrewsbury)
- 2. Gilbert TALBOT of Irchingfield (5º B. Strange of Blackmere)
- 3. Mary TALBOT
- 4. Richard TALBOT (Archbishop of Dublin)
- 5. George TALBOT
- 6. Anne TALBOT (C. Devon)
- 7. Thomas TALBOT of Wrockwardine (Sir Knight) (had no Children) (d. 1419/20)
- 8. William TALBOT
- 9. Alice TALBOT
- 10. Elizabeth TALBOT
Stirnet: Talbot 01
- (1) Visitation (Yorkshire,1563-4, Talbot I) contains an illustrious pedigree for the early generations of this family, indicating that a John Talbot came into England from Normandy with the Conqueror and married the daughter of a Rychard, Lord Talbot, descended from a John, Lord Talbot of Eclesfeld, etc.. However, that pedigree appears to be largely spurious. Similarly, Visitation (Worcestershire, 1569, Talbot) provides a pedigree going back 8 generations before the 1st Earl much of which appears spurious. Collins reports that this family is 'said to be in England before the Norman Conquest' but starts with the following Richard. TCP is cautious about the origins of this family, pointing out that Talbot was a common Norman nickname. [A talbot was a long-eared dog used for tracking and hunting. Any reference to someone as 'de Talbot' should probably be read as 'le Talbot'.] BE1883 starts with the following Richard but, apart from mentioning that his son Geoffrey was ancestor of the Talbots of Bashall (which TCP appears to disagree with), then follows the descent of his son Hugh
- (2) On Temp44 we show the interesting additional connections shown by a large online database which we wish to investigate further but which we think important enough to draw attention to.
- Richard Talbot (a 1085)
- m. ?? de Gournay (dau of Gerard, Sire de Gournay, Lord of Yarmouth)
- 1. Geoffrey Talbot (d c1129/30)
- His family is as reported in a note to TCP (Munchensy of Norfolk).
- m. Agnes de Lacy (dau of Walter de Laci)
- A. Geoffrey Talbot (d 1140)
- B. Sybil Talbot
- m. Payn FitzJohn of Ewyas, Sheriff of Hereford and Salop
- 2. Hugh Talbot (a 1118)
- m. (div) Beatrix de Mandeville (d 19.04.1197, dau of William de Mandeville)
- A. Richard Talbot (d before 25.12.1175) first in the pedigree given by TCP (Talbot)
- m. _ Bulmer (dau of Stephen Bulmer of Appletreewick)
- i. Gilbert Talbot (d before 13.02.1230/1)
- a. Richard Talbot (d before 13.04.1234)
- m. (before 1124) Aline or Aliva Basset (dau of Alan Basset, Baron of Wycombe, widow of Drew de Montacute)
- (1) Gilbert Talbot (d 1274)
- m. Gwendaline (dau of Rhys ap Griffith ap Rhys ap ap Griffith ap Rhys ap Tewdwr Mawr, King of South Wales)
- (A) Richard Talbot, lord of Eccleswall, Sheriff of Gloucester (d 1306)
- m. Sarah de Beauchamp (dau of William de Beauchamp of Elmley, 1st Earl of Warwick)
- (i) Sir Gilbert Talbot, 1st Baron, Lord Chamberlain (d 1346)
- m. Anne Boteler (dau of William Boteler of Wemme)
- (a) Sir Richard Talbot, 2nd Baron (d 1356)
- m. (before 1325) Elizabeth Comyn (b 1299, a 1326, dau of Sir John Comyn, Lord of Badenoch)
- ((1)) Gilbert Talbot, 3rd Baron (d 24.04.1387)
- m1. Petronilla Butler (d 1387, dau of James Butler, 1st Earl of Ormonde)
- ((A)) Sir Richard Talbot, 4th Baron (d 07.09.1396)
- m. Ankaret le Strange (dau of John Strange, 4th Lord of Blackmere)
- ((i)) Gilbert Talbot, 5th Baron, Lord Strange of Blackmere (b 1383, d 19.10.1418-9)
- m1. (before 20.05.1392) Joan Plantagenet (b 1384, d 16.08.1400, dau of Thomas Plantagenet, Duke of Gloucester)
- m2. (c1415) Beatrix of Portugal (m2. Thomas Fettiplace of East Shefford) see here
- ((a)) Ankaret Talbot, Baroness (b c1416, d unm 13.12.1431)
- ((ii)) Sir John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewbury (b 1390, d 20.07.1453)
- m1. (12.03.1406) Maud, Baroness Furnivall (d before 1433, dau of Thomas Nevill, Lord Furnival)
- m2. Margaret Beauchamp (dau of Richard de Beauchamp, 5th Earl of Warwick)
- ((iii)) Richard Talbot, Archbishop of Dublin, Lord Deputy of Ireland
- ((iv)) Thomas Talbot of Wrockwardine
- ((v)) Anne Talbot
- m. Hugh Courtenay, 4th Earl of Devon (b 1389, d 16.06.1422)
- ((vi)) Mary Talbot probably of this generation
- m. Sir Thomas Greene of Green's Norton (d 1417)
- ((B)) Elizabeth Talbot
- m. Sir Henry de Grey, 5th Lord of Wilton (d 1395)
- m2. Joan Stafford (dau of Ralph, Earl of Stafford)
- (ii) .... etc.
- i. Gilbert Talbot (d before 13.02.1230/1)
- Main source(s): BP1934 (Shrewsbury), BE1883 (Talbot - various), Visitation (Surtees Society 1869, Yorkshire, Dugdale 1664-6, Talbot of Thorneton) with support from TCP (Talbot), Collins (1741, Talbot Earl of Shrewsbury).
en.Wikipedia: "Baron Talbot":
- "Talbot, Baron (E, 1332 - abeyant 1777)]"
GordonBanks.com: Lord Talbot de Blackmere IV
- Sir Richard Talbot 4th Lord Talbot of Blackmere, M.P.1
- M, b. circa 1361, d. between 8 September 1396 and 9 September 1396, #1611
- Father: Sir Gilbert Talbot M.P.2,3,4,5,6 b. circa 1332, d. 24 April 1387
- Mother: Petronilla Butler7,4,5,6 d. 1368
- Birth: Sir Richard Talbot 4th Lord Talbot of Blackmere, M.P. was born circa 1361.7,8,9,10,1,5
- Knighted: He was knighted by Richard II at his coronation on 16 July 1377.5
- Event-Misc: Was in Ireland with Edmund, Earl of March in January 1381 at Ireland.5
- Marriage: He married Ankaret le Strange, daughter of Sir John le Strange and Mary FitzAlan, before 23 August 1383.11,12,9,10,1,5
- Event-Misc: Summoned to Parliament in consequence of his marriage to the heiress of Strange of Blackmere. Between 3 March 1384 and 17 December 1387.10,1,5
- Event-Misc: Summoned to be present 14 Jul for service against the Scots on 13 June 1385 at Newcastle-on-Tyne, Northumbria, England.5
- Event-Misc: Seised of his father's lands on 18 June 1387.5
- Event-Misc: Was summoned to Parliament by writ directed Ricard Talbot de Godriche Castell. Between 1 December 1387 and 13 November 1393.5
- Event-Misc: Was (upon the death of the 3rd Earl of Pembroke) awarded the Honor of Wexford in Ireland, as coheir through Elizabeth Comyn, his grandmother. On 31 December 1389.5
- Event-Misc: Was commissioner of array for Shropshire on 1 March 1392 at Shropshire, England.5
- Event-Misc: Was in Ireland in the King's service. In February 1395 at Ireland.5
- Death: He died between 8 September 1396 and 9 September 1396.7,11,9,10,1,5
- Arms: His arms were Gules a lion and a border engrailed or.1
- Family Ankaret le Strange b. 1361, d. 1 June 1413
- Marriage: He married Ankaret le Strange, daughter of Sir John le Strange and Mary FitzAlan, before 23 August 1383.11,12,9,10,1,5
- Children
- Mary Talbot d. 13 Apr 1434
- Richard Talbot d. 15 Aug 1449
- Sir Thomas Talbot Knt.
- Sir William Talbot Knt.
- Elizabeth Talbot
- Anne Talbot
- Alice Talbot
- Eleanor Talbot
- Sir Gilbert Talbot K.G. b. 1383, d. 19 Oct 1418
- Sir John Talbot K.G. b. 1384, d. 17 Jul 1453
- Citations
- Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, Talbot 11.
- Jr. Meredith B. Colket, Marbury Ancestry, p. 39.
- Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Charta Sureties, 141-6.
- David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry, Talbot 9.
- G. E. C[okayne], CP, XII - 616.
- Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, Talbot 10.
- Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots, 14-32.
- Jr. Meredith B. Colket, Marbury Ancestry, p.36.
- Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Charta Sureties, 141-7.
- David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry, Talbot 8.
- Jr. Meredith B. Colket, Marbury Ancestry, p. 36.
- Frederick Lewis Weis, Magna Charta Sureties, 34-8.
History of Parliament Online: BURGH, Hugh (d.1430), of Wattlesborough, Salop and Dinas Mawddwy, Merion:—
- s. of Hugh Burgh. m. (1) by 1413, Elizabeth (c.1389-bef. Oct. 1429), da. of John Mawddwy (alias de la Pole) of Dinas Mawddwy, by Elizabeth, da. and h. of Sir Fulk Corbet of Wattlesborough and h. of her bro. Fulk Mawddwy, 1s. John†; (2) c.1429, Agnes.1
- Offices Held
- Treasurer, Ire. 23 Feb. 1414-Feb. 1420.2
- Commr. of inquiry, Ire. Jan., Aug. 1415,3 Salop May 1422 (concealments), Flints. July 1428 (claims to Mold castle); weirs, Salop Nov. 1424, Dec. 1427, to raise royal loans July 1426, May 1428.
- J.p. Salop 10 Feb. 1416-Mar. 1419, Dec. 1420-d.
- Sheriff, Salop 10 Feb. 1430-d.
- Burgh apparently came from a Westmorland family, and his earliest connexions with Shropshire were as a retainer of Thomas Neville, Lord Furnival, the brother of the earl of Westmorland, and his wife Ankaret, Lady Strange of Blackmere and widow of Richard, Lord Talbot. Burgh served as Neville’s feoffee in the lordship of Worksop, Nottinghamshire, but before Neville’s death in 1407 he entered the service of Lady Ankaret’s younger son, Sir John Talbot (who had married Neville’s elder daughter and coheir by his former wife and was subsequently to succeed him as Lord Furnival). In 1405 Burgh was Talbot’s second-in-command of the garrison of Montgomery, and he was still lieutenant in June 1407 when he collected 100 marks at the Exchequer for the soldiers’ wages. It seems likely that he continued in Talbot’s company throughout the pacification of Wales. In 1408 Lady Ankaret named him as a feoffee of the lordship of Corfham for the settlement of the estate on Talbot, and three years later he performed a similar service as an attorney for the transfer of certain lands in Yorkshire to his superior’s wife. Burgh was involved in other transactions relating to the Talbot and Strange estates and he evidently occupied a position of trust in the Talbot family’s affairs. There is no record of him receiving an annuity from his lord, but in 1414 he was granted by him two thirds of the manor of Alberbury, Shropshire, no doubt in lieu.4
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- Gilbert Talbot (1276–1346), Lord Chamberlain of the Household to King Edward III, was summoned to Parliament as Lord Talbot in 1331, which is accepted as evidence of his baronial status at that date.
- He was descended from Richard Talbot, a tenant in 1086 of Walter Giffard at Woburn and Battledsen in Bedfordshire. The Talbot family were vassals of the Giffards in Normandy.[4] Hugh Talbot, probably his son, made a grant to Beaubec Abbey, confirmed by his son Richard Talbot in 1153. This Richard (d. 1175) is listed in 1166 as holding three fees of the Honour of Giffard in Buckinghamshire. He also held a fee at Linton in Herefordshire, for which his son Gilbert Talbot (d. 1231) obtained a fresh charter in 1190.[5] Gilbert's grandson Gilbert (d. 1274) married Gwenlynn Mechyll, daughter and sole heiress of the Welsh Prince Rhys Mechyll, whose armorials the Talbots thenceforth assumed in lieu of their own former arms. Their son Sir Richard Talbot, who signed the Barons' Letter, 1301, held the manor of Eccleswall in Herefordshire in right of his wife Sarah, sister of William de Beauchamp, 9th Earl of Warwick. In 1331 Richard's son Gilbert Talbot (1276–1346) was summoned to Parliament, which is considered evidence of his baronial status.[6]
- The first baron's grandson, the 3rd Baron Talbot, died in Spain supporting John of Gaunt's claim to the throne of Castile. Richard, the fourth Baron, married Ankaret, 7th Baroness Strange of Blackmere, daughter and heiress of John le Strange, 4th Baron Strange of Blackmere. In 1387, during his father's lifetime, Richard 4th Baron was summoned to Parliament as Ricardo Talbot de Blackmere in right of his wife. His son [Gilbert], the fifth Baron, also succeeded his mother as eighth Baron Strange of Blackmere.
- On the early death of the 5th Baron, the titles passed to his daughter, Ankaret, the sixth and ninth holder of the titles. However, she died a minor and was succeeded by her uncle, John seventh Baron Talbot. John married Maud Nevill, 6th Baroness Furnivall, and, in 1409, he was summoned to Parliament in right of his wife as Johann Talbot de Furnyvall. In 1442 John was created Earl of Shrewsbury in the Peerage of England and in 1446 Earl of Waterford in the Peerage of Ireland. .... etc.
- Gilbert [Talbot], 3rd Baron Talbot
- born c. 1332
- mar. (1) bef. 8 Sep 1352 Lady Pernel Butler (d. c. 1368), only dau. of James [Butler], 1st Earl of Ormonde, by his wife Lady Eleanor de Bohun, 1st dau. of Humphrey [de Bohun], 4th Earl of Hereford and 9th Earl of Essex, by his wife and third cousin Princess Elizabeth, widow of John I, Count of Holland and Zealand, and 10th dau. by his first wife of King Edward I
- children by first wife
- 1. Sir Richard Talbot, later 4th Baron Talbot
- 1. Elizabeth Talbot (d. 10 Jan 1401/2), mar. bef. 3 Feb 1379/80 Henry [Grey], 5th Baron Grey of Wilton, and had issue
- mar. (2) bef. 16 Nov 1379 Lady Joan Cherleton (widow of John [Cherleton], 3rd Baron Cherleton; d. bef. 1397), 2nd dau. of Ralph [de Stafford], 1st Earl of Stafford, by his second wife Lady Margaret de Audley, suo jure Baroness Audley, only dau. and hrss. of Hugh [de Audley], 1st Earl of Gloucester, by his wife Lady Margaret de Gaveston, widow of Piers [de Gaveston], 1st Earl of Cornwall, and 2nd dau. of Gilbert [de Clare], 6th Earl of Gloucester, by his second wife the Princess Joan "of Acre", 5th dau. by his first wife of King Edward I
- died 24 Apr 1387
- suc. by son by first wife
Additional Source: "Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SPCG-RNK : accessed 1 September 2012), entry for Richard /Talbot/.
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- John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and 1st Earl of Waterford KG (1384/1387 Blakemere, Shropshire – 17 July 1453 Castillon, France), known as "Old Talbot" was an important English military commander during the Hundred Years' War, as well as the only Lancastrian Constable of France.
- He was descended from Richard Talbot, a tenant in 1086 of Walter Giffard at Woburn and Battledsen in Bedfordshire. The Talbot family were vassals of the Giffards in Normandy. Hugh Talbot, probably Richard's son, made a grant to Beaubec Abbey, confirmed by his son Richard Talbot in 1153. This Richard (d. 1175) is listed in 1166 as holding three fees of the Honour of Giffard in Buckinghamshire. He also held a fee at Linton in Herefordshire, for which his son Gilbert Talbot (d. 1231) obtained a fresh charter in 1190.[2] Gilbert's grandson Gilbert (d. 1274) married Gwenlynn Mechyll, daughter and sole heiress of the Welsh Prince Rhys Mechyll, whose armorials the Talbots thenceforth assumed in lieu of their own former arms. Their son Sir Richard Talbot, who signed the Barons' Letter, 1301, held the manor of Eccleswall in Herefordshire in right of his wife Sarah, sister of William de Beauchamp, 9th Earl of Warwick. In 1331 Richard's son Gilbert Talbot (1276–1346) was summoned to Parliament, which is considered evidence of his baronial status - see Baron Talbot. Gilbert's son Richard married Elizabeth Comyn, bringing with her the inheritance of Goodrich Castle in Herefordshire.
- John Talbot was second son of Richard Talbot, 4th Baron Talbot, by Ankaret le Strange, 7th Baroness Strange of Blackmere. His younger brother Richard became Archbishop of Dublin and Lord Chancellor of Ireland and one of the most influential Irish statesmen of his time.
- His father died in 1396 when Talbot was just nine years old, and so it was Ankaret's second husband, Thomas Neville, Lord Furnival, who became the major influence in his early life. The marriage also gave the opportunity of a title for her second son as Neville had no sons with the title going through his eldest daughter Maud.[4] who would become John's 1st wife.
- Talbot was married before 12 March 1407 to Maud Neville, 6th Baroness Furnivall, daughter and heiress of Thomas Neville, 5th Baron Furnivall, the son of John Neville, 3rd Baron Neville de Raby. He was summoned to Parliament in her right from 1409.
- The couple are thought to have four children:
- Thomas Talbot (19 June 1416 Finglas, Ireland - 10 August 1416)
- John Talbot, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury (c. 1417 – 11 July 1460)
- Sir Christopher Talbot (1419–10 August 1443),
- Lady Joan Talbot (c 1422), married James Berkeley, 1st Baron Berkeley.
- In 1421 by the death of his niece he acquired the Baronies of Talbot and Strange. His first wife, Maud died on 31 May 1422. It has been suggested as an indirect result of giving birth to daughter Joan, although due to a lack of evidence of her life before her marriage to Lord Berkeley has even led to a theory that she was actually Talbot's daughter-in-law through marriage to Sir Christopher Talbot.
- On 6 September 1425, he married Lady Margaret Beauchamp, eldest daughter of Richard de Beauchamp, 13th Earl of Warwick and Elizabeth de Berkeley in the chapel at Warwick Castle. They had five children:
- John Talbot, 1st Viscount Lisle (1426 – 17 July 1453)
- Sir Louis Talbot (c 1429-1458)
- Sir Humphrey Talbot (before 1434 – c. 1492)
- Lady Eleanor Talbot (c February/March 1436 - 30 June 1468) married to Sir Thomas Butler and mistress to King Edward IV.
- Lady Elizabeth Talbot (c December 1442/January 1443). She married John de Mowbray, 4th Duke of Norfolk.
- Talbot is known to have had at least one illegitimate child, Henry. He may have served in France with his father as it is known that a bastard son of the Earl of Shrewsbury was captured by the Dauphin on 14 August 1443.[5]
- From 1404 to 1413 he served with his elder brother Gilbert in the Welsh war or the rebellion of Owain Glyndwr. Then for five years from February 1414 he was Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, where he did some fighting. He had a dispute with the Earl of Ormond and Reginald Grey, 3rd Baron Grey de Ruthyn over the inheritance for the honour of Wexford which he held.[6] Complaints were made against him both for harsh government in Ireland and for violence in Herefordshire.[7]
- The dispute with the Earl of Ormond escalated into a long-running feud between Shrewsbury and his brother, the Archbishop of Dublin, on the one hand and the Butler family on the other and their allies the Berkeleys. The feud reached its height in the 1440s, and in the end just about every senior official in Ireland had taken sides in the quarrel; both sides were reprimanded by the Privy Council for weakening English rule in Ireland. Friendly relations were finally achieved by the marriage of Shrewsbury's son and heir to Ormond's daughter.[8]
- From 1420 to 1424 he served in France, apart from a brief return at the end of the first year to organise the festivities of celebrating the coronation of Catherine of France, the bride of Henry V.[9]
- He returned to France in May 1421 and took part in the Battle of Verneuil on 17 August 1424 earning him the Order of the Garter.
- In 1425, he was lieutenant again for a short time in Ireland;[7] he served again in 1446-7.
- So far his career was that of a turbulent Marcher Lord, employed in posts where a rough hand was useful. In 1427 he went again to France,[7] where he fought alongside the Duke of Bedford and the Earl of Warwick with distinction in Maine and at the Siege of Orléans. He fought at the Battle of Patay on 18 June 1429 where he was captured and held prisoner for four years.
- He was released in exchange for the French leader Jean Poton de Xaintrailles and returned to England in May 1433. He stayed until July when he returned to France under the Earl of Somerset.[10]
- Talbot was a daring and aggressive soldier, perhaps the most audacious captain of the age. He and his forces were ever ready to retake a town and to meet a French advance. His trademark was rapid aggressive attacks. He was rewarded by being appointed governor and lieutenant general in France and Normandy and, in 1434, the Duke of Bedford made him Count of Clermont.
- In January 1436, he led a small force including Kyriell and routed La Hire and Xaintrailles at Ry near Rouen. The following year at Crotoy, after a daring passage of the Somme, he put a numerous Burgundian force to flight. In December 1439, following a surprise flank attack on their camp, he dispersed the 6000 strong army of the Constable Richemont, and the following year he retook Harfleur. In 1441, he pursued the French army four times over the Seine and Oise rivers in an unavailing attempt to bring it to battle.
- Around February 1442, Talbot returned to England to request urgent reinforcements for the Duke of York in Normandy. In March, under king's orders, ships were requisitioned for this purpose with Talbot himself responsible for assembling ships from the Port of London and from Sandwich.[11]
- On Whit Sunday, 20 May, Henry VI awarded him the title of Comes Salopie, translated as Earl of Shropshire but despite this he popularly became Earl of Shrewsbury. Just five days later, with the requested re-inforcements, Talbot returned to France where in June they mustered at Harfleur. During that time, he met his six-old year daughter Eleanor for the first time and almost certainly left the newly created Countess Margaret pregnant with another child.[12]
- In June 1443, Talbot again returned to England on behalf of the Duke of York to plead for reinforcements, but this time the English Council refused, instead sending a separate force under Shrewsbury's brother-in-law, Edmund Beaufort. His son, Sir Christoper stayed in England where shortly afterwards he was murdered with a lance at the age of 23 by one of his own men, Griffin Vachan of Treflidian on 10 August at "Cawce, County Salop" (Caus Castle).[13]
- He was appointed in 1445 by Henry VI (as king of France) as Constable of France. Taken hostage at Rouen in 1449 he promised never to wear armour against the French King again, and he was true to his word. However, though he did not personally fight, he continued to command English forces against the French. He was defeated and killed in 1453 at the Battle of Castillon near Bordeaux, which effectively ended English rule in the duchy of Aquitaine, a principal cause of the Hundred Years' War. His heart was buried in the doorway of St Alkmund's Church, Whitchurch, Shropshire.[14]
- The victorious French generals raised a monument to Talbot on the field called Notre Dame de Talbot and a French Chronicler paid him handsome tribute:
- "Such was the end of this famous and renowned English leader who for so long had been one of the most formidable thorns in the side of the French, who regarded him with terror and dismay" - Matthew d'Escourcy
- Although Talbot is generally remembered as a great soldier, some have raised doubts as to his generalship. In particular, charges of rashness have been raised against him. Speed and aggression were key elements in granting success in medieval war, and Talbot's numerical inferiority necessitated surprise. Furthermore, he was often in the position of trying to force battle on unwilling opponents. At his defeat at Patay in 1429 he was advised not to fight there by Sir John Fastolf, who was subsequently blamed for the debacle, but the French, inspired by Joan of Arc, showed unprecedented fighting spirit - usually they approached an English position with trepidation. The charge of rashness is perhaps more justifiable at Castillon where Talbot, misled by false reports of a French retreat, attacked their entrenched camp frontally - facing wheel to wheel artillery.
- He is portrayed heroically in Shakespeare's Henry VI, Part 1: "Valiant Lord Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury, Created, for his rare success in arms". Talbot's failures are all blamed on Fastolf and feuding factions in the English court. Thomas Nashe, commenting on the play in his booklet Pierce Penniless, stated that Talbot's example was inspiring Englishman anew, two centuries after his death,
- How would it have joyed brave Talbot, the terror of the French, to think that after he had lain two hundred years in his tomb, he should triumph again on the stage, and have his bones new embalmed with the tears of ten thousand spectators at least (at several times) who in the tragedian that represents his person imagine they behold him fresh bleeding. I will defend it against any collian or clubfisted usurer of them all, there is no immortality can be given a man on earth like unto plays.
- John Talbot is shown as a featured character in Koei's video game Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War, appearing as the left-arm of Edward, the Black Prince, in which he assists the former and the respective flag of England throughout his many portrayals.
- Talbot appears as one of the primary antagonists in the PSP game Jeanne d'Arc.
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Richard Talbot, 4th Baron Talbot's Timeline
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1361
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Blackmere, Cornwall, England
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1383 |
September 23, 1383
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Hartford, Cheshire, England
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1383
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of, Blackemere, Harford, England
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1386
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Of, Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
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1388
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Of, Blakemere, Hartford, England
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1390
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Blakemore, Herefordshire, England (United Kingdom)
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1392
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Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England (United Kingdom)
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1393
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of Blakemere, Herefordshire, England
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1396 |
September 7, 1396
Age 35
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London, Middlesex, England
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