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Raoul III "le Bon" de Nesle, comte de Soissons

French: Raoul De Soissons, comte de Soissons
Also Known As: "The Good"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: France
Death: circa January 04, 1235 (76-93)
Immediate Family:

Son of Raoul II de Nesle and Gertrude de Montaigu
Husband of Yolande de Joinville; Alix de Dreux and Ade de Grandpré
Father of Jean II de Nesle, comte de Soissons; Gertrude de Nesle, dame de Soissons; Eleanor de Soissons; Raoul de Nesle, vicomte de Soissons and Elisabeth de Barbançon, de Soissons
Brother of Jean de Nesle, châtelain de Bruges and Conon de Nesle, comte de Soissons

Occupation: Comte de Soissons 1180-1235, Sieur, de Nesle, Croisé, Châtelain, de Noyon, de Bruges, Trouvère, Trouvère
Managed by: Geoffrey David Trowbridge
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About Raoul III de Nesle, comte de Soissons

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RAOUL [II] de Nesle, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Nesle & his wife Rainurde --- (-[1153/60]). ... m as her first husband, GERTRUDE de Montaigu, daughter of LAMBERT Comte de Montaigu & his wife ---. ... Raoul [II] & his wife had four children:

  • 1. CONON de Nesle (-1180 before 20 Apr). ... m (before 1164) AGATHE de Pierrefonds, daughter of DREUX Seigneur de Pierrefonds & his wife Beatrix --- (-after 1189). ...
  • 2. JEAN de Nesle (-14 Jul [1197/1200]). ... - CHÂTELAINS de BRUGES.
  • 3. RAOUL de Nesle (-4 Jan 1235). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes Cono, Iohannes…et iste qui adhuc vivit comes Radulfus Suessionensis" as sons of "Radulfo castellano [de Bruges]"[2439]. "…Johannes et Radulfi fratrum meorum" subscribed the charter dated 1178 under which "Cono…comes Suessionensis dominus Petrofontis et Nigelle" donated property to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp[2440]. Comte de Soissons 1180. Châtelain de Noyon 1184. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records the death in 1235 of "comes Rodulfus Suessionensis"[2441]. m firstly (1182 or before) as her fourth husband, ALIX de Dreux, widow firstly of VALERAN [III] Seigneur de Breteuil, secondly of GUY [II] Seigneur de Châtillon-sur-Marne and thirdly of JEAN de Thourotte Châtelain de Noyon, daughter of ROBERT [I] Seigneur de Dreux et du Perche [Capet] & his first wife Hawise de Salisbury ([1145/46]-[Jan 1205/Mar 1210], bur église collégiale de Dreux). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Alaydam" as the daughter of "comitem de Brana Robertum domnum" & his first wife, naming her first husband "Gallerano de Bertuilh", her second husband "Guidone de Castellone", her third husband "Iohanne castellano Noviomensi" and her fourth husband "comite Suessionensi"[2442]. "Adelais comitissa Suessionensis et domina Montis Gaii" confirmed the donation of property to Paris Hôtel-Dieu, for the soul of "domini Guidonis de Castellione viri mei", by charter dated 1182[2443]. "Gaucherius de Castellione dominus Montisgaii" donated property to Saint-Maur des Fossés, for the soul of "fratris mei Guidonis", with the consent of "domina Adelaide matre mea comitissa Suessionensi et domina Adelaide sorore mea uxore domini Guillelmi de Garlanda", by charter dated 1194[2444]. "Radulfus comes Suessionensis…Aalidis uxor mea" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp by charter dated 1199[2445]. "Radulfus (Suessionis) dominus Montis Gaii et Adelidis uxor mee" confirmed a previous donation of property to Tremblay by "filius noster Gaucherus de Castillione" by charter dated Jan 1205[2446], although Gauthier was the son of Raoul's wife by her second marriage. 1160/1205. m secondly YOLANDE, daughter of ---. m thirdly (before 1223) as her second husband, ADA d'Avesnes, widow of HENRI [III] Comte de Grandpre, daughter of JACQUES Seigneur d'Avesnes & his wife Adela de Guise (-after 1249). The late 13th century genealogy by Balduinus de Avennis names "Machtildem, Aelidem, Adeluyam et Agnetem" as the four daughters of "Nicolai Plukelli filius primogenitus Jacobus" and his wife, adding that she married "comiti de Grandi-prato"[2447]. The primary source which confirms her second marriage has not yet been identified. "Johannes comitis Suessionensis primogenitus dominus de Turno et de Cimaio" granted canalisation rights to Notre-Dame de Soissons by charter dated 1 Nov 1213, confirmed by "Radulfus comes Suession. de consensu Adæ uxoris sua et filiorum Johannis domini de Turno et Radulfi" in 1231[2448]. “Ada domina de Hans, quondam comitissa Suessionensis” acknowledged the homage given by her to “Theobaldo regi Navarræ et comiti Campaniæ" by charter dated Dec 1238[2449].
Comte Raoul & his first wife had two children:  
  • a) GERTRUDE de Nesle (-[26 Sep 1220/Oct 1222). ... m firstly (annulled) as his first wife, JEAN de Beaumont, son of MATHIEU [II] Comte de Beaumont & his second wife Adela Dame de Luzarches (-1222). ... m secondly (1193) as his first wife, MATHIEU [II] "le Grand" Seigneur de Montmorency, son of BOUCHARD [IV] Seigneur de Montmorency & his wife Laurette de Hainaut (-24 Nov 1230).
  • b) ELEONORE de Nesle (-[1229/34]). ... m firstly (before 1199) as his second wife, MATHIEU [III] Comte de Beaumont-sur-Oise, son of MATHIEU [II] Comte de Beaumont & his first wife Mathilde de Châteaudun (-21 or 24 Nov 1208, bur Priory of Lay). m secondly (before 1214) as his first wife, ETIENNE [II] de Sancerre Seigneur de Saint-Brisson, son of ETIENNE [I] de Blois Comte de Sancerre & his wife Alix [Mathilde] de Donzy (-1252).
Comte Raoul & his second wife had two children:  
  • c) JEAN [II] de Nesle (-[Apr 1270/Feb 1272). ... He succeeded his father in 1235 as Comte de Soissons. - see below.
  • d) RAOUL de Nesle . 4. BAUDOUIN de Nesle .


Ralph, Count of Soissons
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph,_Count_of_Soissons

Raoul le Bon ('Ralph the Good)' (d. 4 January 1235), also known as Raoul III de Nesle, was the Count of Soissons from 1180.[1] He was the third son of Raoul II de Nesle and Gertrude de Montaigu.

In 1178 Raoul and his elder brother John subscribed to a charter of the eldest brother, Conon, then count, donating property to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp. When Alberic de Trois-Fontaines wrote his chronicle, he could refer to count Raoul of Soissons qui adhuc vivit (who still lives). But he later records his death in 1235. In 1184 Ralph became castellan of Noyon. According to Rigord, he took the Cross alongside Henry II of England and Philip II of France at a ceremony between Trie and Gisors on 13 Jan 1188 and joined the Third Crusade.

Raoul was the fourth husband of Adèle of Dreux (b. 1145/6), daughter of Robert I of Dreux. She confirmed donations to Notre-Dame d'Ourscamp (fr) and Tremblay[disambiguation needed] with him, and died between January 1205 and March 1210. Raoul was briefly married to Yolande, daughter of Geoffrey IV of Joinville, before taking as his third wife Ada d'Avesnes, widow of Henry, Count of Grandpré.

By his first wife Adele he had two daughters:

  • Gertrude, married first to Count Jean de Beaumont-sur-Oise (d. 1222), and second to Mathieu II de Montmorency (d.1230), Constable of France.
  • Alienor, married first to Count Mathieu III de Beaumont-sur-Oise (d. 1208), and second to Étienne II de Sancerre (d. 1252), Grand Butler of France and son of Stephen I, Count of Sancerre.

By his third wife Ada he had three children:

  • John, Count of Soissons
  • Ralph (d. 1272), who was probably a trouvère (troubadour)
  • Isabelle of Nesle, married to a Viscount of Châtellerault.

Upon the death of Raoul, his son John became Count of Soissons.

Notes

He is described in contemporary writings as comes Radulfus Suessionensis.

===External links===

Nobility of the Paris region: Chapter 9. Comtes de Soissons, Part C. Nesle at the Medieval Lands Project.