Pieter Erasmus, SV/PROG

Burger in 1691 so likely then 21 years old

Inventory dated 4 November 1723 he named as heir / erfgenamen as well died after that date
Inventory 4 November 1723
Accused in 1677 of plotting with slaves send to Cape 1679.

Why called Pieter de Deen if from Netherlands?

Please see https://www.geni.com/discussions/82570?msg=1507922 for Discussion about parents.
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October 31, 1673 could be the date of birth. -- very unlikely a Burger in 1691 if not 21 yrs old and already 1677 plotting with slaves.

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New research - http://upetd.up.ac.za/thesis/available/etd-10152004-071549/unrestri...

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Monsterrol van de vrije luijden opgemaaket 23 Januarij 1702

  onder  't District Drakenstein

p 8 'Pieter de Deen & vrouw 3 k.'

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Monsterollen VC 50 1733 # 26

p 25 'Lourens Pietersz Erasmus & Marta Pienaar

Pieter Erasmus

Laris Pietersz Erasmus

Jacob Pietersz Erasmus'

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Staat ende inventaris mitsgaders taxatie der goederen van den wedunaer, Pieter Erasmus ten voordeele van hem selfs ter eener, ende desselfs ses kinderen

Erfgenamen desen boedel

Pieter Erasmus ter eener en

ses sijner kinderen met name

Erasmus Pieters Erasmus oud 25 jaar

Ester oud 20 jaar

Lourens oud 19 jaar

Catharina oud 18 jaar

Laris is oud 17 jaar en

Jacob Erasmus oud 16 jaar ter andere zijde ...

Aldus geinventariseert en getaxeert, op de plaats genaemt de Groene Berg den 4:e Novemb:r 1723

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Mijn PE merk Pieter Erasmus

Erasmus Pieters Erasmus

[Inventories of the Orphan Chamber Cape Town Archives Repository, South Africa Reference no.: MOOC8/4.47]

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Judi Marais-Meyer register MRIN 403

Boedel ven eggenoot: MOOC8/4.47

Met sy eggenoot se heengaan laat sy haar man, Pieter en 6 kinders na.

Pieter Erasmus (A1) word 'n burger in die Kaap in 1693 en woon op die plaas "Groenkloof" in Drakenstein. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9BY-DS5J-6 Groene Berg not Groenkloof

Verwysings:

Geslagregister van Vroeë Kaapse Families.

Cor Pama

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Die van ERASMUS is ‘n Griekse woord wat beteken "Lieflik" of "Welgeliefd" en was eerste aangeneem deur die wêreldberoemde Hollandse skrywer, Protestant en Hervormer, Desiderius Erasmus van Rotterdam wie gelewe het gedurende die tydperk 1466-1536.

Van stamvader Pieter Erasmus se afkoms weet ons min. Daar was al heelwat spekulasie en teorieë op die gespreksgroep bespreek. In sekere Kaapse rekords kom hy voor as Pieter den Deen, wat moontlik op S kandinawiese afkoms dui.

Volgens Mark Barker se bydrae tot die SA Stamouers webwerf verkry hy die plaas Groenkloof in Wagenmakersvallei (vandag Wellington), distrik Drakenstein op 28 Februarie 1699. Hy verkry eers transport i n 1714, vermoedelik omdat hy nie ten gunste van Simon van der Stel was nie.

SAG 2 gee ook die plaas aan as Groenkloof in Drakenstein, maar volgens Mieka Erasmus was sy plaas langs Baren Blom s'n, en sy wys daarop dat sekere gedrukte materiaal die verkeerde plaas (Groenkloof) as Erasmus s'n aandui - dit was nie die plaas in Drakenstein nie, maar die plaas De Groenenbergh aan die Krommerivier in die Wagenmakersvalleij (hierdie plaas staan vandag bekend as Onverwacht, Bovle i).

Hy behou die plaas tot en met sy dood in 1731. Pieter trou in 1697 met Maria Elizabeth Jooste, wat in September 1723 oorlede is.

Toe die Inventaris geneem was nadat Maria dood was in 1723 word die volgende persone gegee as hulle kinders:

Erasmus Pieter - 25 jaar oud

Ester - 20 jaar oud

Lourens - 19 jaar oud

Catharina - 18 jaar oud

Laris - 17 jaar oud

Jacob - 16 jaar oud

Let op dat meeste bronne meld nie Ester as 'n dogter nie. Volgens die Inventaris moes die dogter Maria Hanna voor haar moeder gesterwe het. - http://www.stamouers.com/erasmus.htm

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Pieter Erasmus (some Cape records refer to him as Pieter den Deen) born in The Netherlands c. 1672. He arrived at the Cape in 1691 and in 1697 married Maria Elisabeth Jooste. She was also born in The Netherlands (Middelburg) around 1676.

Pieter was a farmer at "Groeneberg" (Drakenstein district South Africa).

Both Pieter and Maria Elisabeth died in Drakenstein in 1723.

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Pieter ERASMUS came to South Africa in 1693. In the Cape records he appears as Pieter den Deen. He farmed on the farm "Groenkloof" in Wagenmakersvallei (Wellington), this fell in the sub-district of Drakenstein. He got this farm 28 Feb 1699, however since he was not in favour of van der Stel he only obtained his title in 1714. He had this farm until his death. He died 1731. Pieter married 1697 Maria Elizabeth JOOSTE who died September 1723. They were married in 1697.

His farm was next to Baren Blom"s, please note some printed material gives the wrong farm as belonging to Erasmus, it was not the farm in Drakenstein. They had a farm De Groenenbergh on the Krommerivier in the Wagenmakersvalleij (this farm is today known as Onverwacht, Bovlei)

CHILDREN b1 Rasmus baptised Paarl 21 Sep 1698, X 4 Nov 1725 Susanna Jacobs b2 Maria Hanna baptised 25 Oct 1699 b3 Lourens baptised 22 Jun 1704, X 9 Dec 1731 Martha Pienaar b4 Catharina baptised 24 Jan 1706, X 12 Aug 1725 Johannes Mulder, XX Jun 1732 Roelof van den Burg b5 Larius baptised 6 Feb 1707 b6 Jacob, X Paarl 4 Aug 1737 Sara de Klerk

Toe die Inventaris geneem was nadat Maria dood was in 1723 word die volgende persone gegee as hulle kinders: Erasmus Pieter - 25 jaar oud Ester - 20 jaar oud Lourens - 19 jaar oud Catharina - 18 jaar oud Laris - 17 jaar oud Jacob - 16 jaar oud

Let op dat meeste bronne meld nie Ester as "n dogter nie. Volgens die Inventaris moes die dogter Maria Hanna voor haar moeder gesterwe het.

Sources: J A Heese and RTJ Lombard,South African Genealogies JG le Roux and WG le Roux Ons Drakensteinse Erfgrond: Bovlei DJ Erasmus "Die Stamvader Pieter Erasmus uit Nederland" Familia XXII 1985 no1 Inligting deur Sasa Malan ingestuur na GenForum

Thanks to research by:

Thanks to submission by: Mark Barker mabarker@mweb.co.za AM van Rensburg

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GEDCOM Note

Category:Cape_of_Good_Hope_Project_Needs_Validation

Biography

Suffix===::a1<ref name="text-13"> Added by Pieterse-13 | Esmé van der Westhuizen, 2 June 2015. De Villiers, Christoffel Coetzee "Oude Kaapsche Familien" https://archive.org/details/OudeKaapscheFamilienPart1 - A-J. Page No.216</ref>

Name ===:: ERASMUS, Pieter (Stamvader) <ref name="text-305">Pienaar-305|Schalk Pienaar Apr 14 2014. Source: http://southafrica.mypeoplepuzzle.net/ </ref>:: Suffix (Stamvader) <ref name="text-305">Pienaar-305|Schalk Pienaar Apr 14 2014. Source: http://southafrica.mypeoplepuzzle.net/ </ref>

Birth ===:: Date: Pieter (den Deen) was born in 1649. <ref>Entered by Meyer-2493 | Pieter Meyer, Feb 6, 2013.</ref>:: Born Abt 1672 Netherlands <ref name="text-305">Pienaar-305|Schalk Pienaar Apr 14 2014. Source: http://southafrica.mypeoplepuzzle.net/ </ref>:: Date: Pieter Erasmus was born before 1693. <ref name="text-262">First-hand information as remembered by Naudé-262 | Cornelius Naudé, Tuesday, June 24, 2014. Replace this citation if there is another source.</ref>:: Date: 1672 <ref name="text">Oct 23, 2012 Dippenaar-12 | Andrew Dippenaar.</ref>:: Place: Nederland <ref name="text">Oct 23, 2012 Dippenaar-12 | Andrew Dippenaar.</ref>

Immigration ===:: Date: 1691 <ref name="text">Oct 23, 2012 Dippenaar-12 | Andrew Dippenaar.</ref>

:: Date: 1693<ref>Jul 19, 2012 Klopper-13 | Arrie Klopper.</ref>:: Emigration Abt 1693 Netherlands <ref name="text-305">Pienaar-305|Schalk Pienaar Apr 14 2014. Source: http://southafrica.mypeoplepuzzle.net/ </ref>

Residence ===:: Farm "Groenkloof", Drakenstein, Cape Province <ref name="text-305">Pienaar-305|Schalk Pienaar Apr 14 2014. Source: http://southafrica.mypeoplepuzzle.net/ </ref>

Death ===:: Date: 4 NOV 1723 <ref name="text">Oct 23, 2012 Dippenaar-12 | Andrew Dippenaar.</ref>:: Date: Pieter Erasmus passed away about 1731. <ref name="text-262">First-hand information as remembered by Naudé-262 | Cornelius Naudé, Tuesday, June 24, 2014. Replace this citation if there is another source.</ref>:: Date: 1731 <ref name="text-305">Pienaar-305|Schalk Pienaar Apr14 2014. Source: http://southafrica.mypeoplepuzzle.net/ </ref>:: Place: Drakenstein, Paarl, Cape Province, South Africa <ref name="text-305">Pienaar-305|Schalk Pienaar Apr 14 2014. Source: http://southafrica.mypeoplepuzzle.net/ </ref>

Sources

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* WikiTree profile Erasmus-76 created through the import of wikitree upload.ged on Jul 19, 2012 by Klopper-13 | Arrie Klopper. User ID: 5BAFE98034166449BC009D61D333613EC962 Prior to import, this record was last changed 8 Jan 2010.

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* WikiTree profile Erasmus-92 created through the import of Ancestors_DippenaarAndre_noinfo.GED on Oct 23, 2012 by Dippenaar-12 | Andrew Dippenaar. User ID: 1E220B85-27FF-40B7-AE22-808AAB595201 : Record IDNumber: MH:I1224 : UPD 13 DEC 2011 22:43:12 GMT+2

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* Also see: Robertson, Delia. The First Fifty Years Project. http://www.e-family.co.za/ffy/ Page: Pieter Erasmus / Rassemus Seen and added by Van der Walt-440|Philip van der Walt June 6, 2015.

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* Also see: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=erasmussa...

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Arrived in South Africa in 1691 from Holland.