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Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse

Also Known As: "Le Suisse", "Le SUISSE", "Pierre MIVILLE DIT LE SUISSE"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Fribourg, Canton Fribourg, Switzerland
Death: October 14, 1669 (62-71)
Pointe-DE-Lévy (Lauzon), Co., Québec,, Lévis, Lévis, QC, Canada (Master wood-joiner, captain of the militia on the Lauzon coast. Arrived in Quebec in 1649.)
Place of Burial: Quebec City, Quebec, Canada
Immediate Family:

Son of Isaac Francois Miville and Salomé Lomène
Husband of Charlotte Miville dit Lesuisse and Charlotte Maugis
Father of Suzanne Paulet; Gabriel Miville; Suzanne Miville dite Deschênes; Marie-Anne Miville; Seigneur de Bonne-Rencontre François Miville and 4 others
Brother of Isaac Miville dit Deschênes; Michelle Miville dit Deschenes Le Suisse and Catherine Miville Deschenes

Occupation: maître-menuisier, capitaine de navire ~ master carpenter, cabinetmaker, ship captain, Cardinal Richelieu's Swiss guards, Carpenter. Immigrant, Maitre menuisier. Immigrant., Immigrant, Maitre menuisier, Carpenter
Immigrated to Canada: 1655
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About Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse

PIERRE MIVILLE DIT LE SUISSE from "Our French-Canadian Ancestors" by Thomas J. Laforest

Historian Marcel Trudel tells us that the first Miville to trod upon the soil of New France had the given name of Vincent. He was noted in a lawsuit dated August 20, 1638. He signed his name then and we have heard no more about him. We assume that, he left as discretely as he arrived. In his remarkable work on Pierre Miville and his family, Raymond Ouimet mentioned a certain Isaac Miville, probably a relative of Pierre's. Isaac was hired, at La Rochelle, on April 6, 1643, to serve Sieur Charles de La Tour, at the fort of Riviere Saint-Jean, in Acadia. Four men from Switzerland embarked in the ship SAINT-CLEMENT which left La Rochelle, on April 15 and arrived at Riviere Saint-Jean on May 20. None of them seems to have recorded his name anywhere on this side of the Atlantic.

Some six years later, Pierre Miville arrived among us with his wife and children. The Mivilles came to stay, founded a dynasty just as distinguished and numerous. Their descendants, after three and a half centuries, have become permanent on American soil.

Pierre's Swiss origin is not in doubt. Several documents provide proof of it. He came from the region of Fribourg where he was born at the beginning of the seventeenth century. Situated in the western part of Switzerland, Fribourg is the head town of the canton which is washed by the Sarine, a river which has its source north of Sion (Sitten) in the Alps. The Cordeliers, the disciples of Saint Francis of Assisi, built a church at Fribourg, in the thirteenth century. In 1516, a perpetual peace was signed between France and the representatives of the thirteen Swiss cantons. The French dominated the upper part of the town, the Germans the lower part.

THE SWITZERLAND OF CARDINAL RICHELIEU

If Switzerland has cultivated a peaceful tradition for several centuries, it did not cease to provide numerous soldiers to neighboring countries. Its body guards, in impeccable attire, enjoyed an international reputation. From 1496 to 1792, the kings of France called on the services of a company called the Hundred-Swiss to assure their personal protection. In the fifteenth century, the popes also hired the Swiss, whose attire has not varied since then. Cardinal de Richelieu also had his own guards. Pierre Miville was one of them. On June 25, 1635, he was a witness to the marriage of a certain Artement Artement to Marie-Salomee Bloune. Both originally from Switzerland, were married in the church of Saint-Hilaire d'Hiers. Pierre was called "sourice de Monseigneur the cardinal living in Brouage". By 1635, Miville had probably been in the service of the famous prelate for several years. He had perhaps been called to fight at the seige of La Rochelle, whose population decimated by illness and famine, went from 28,000 people to only 5,000 towards the end of the summer of 1628.

On September 30, the troops entered the area and provided the survivors with provisions, guaranteeing them "life and property" and freedom to practice their religion. While La Rochelle was reduced almost to nothing, Richelieu, at that time governor of Brouage, transformed this town into a fortified enclosure. The work was spread out over ten years, from 1630 to 1640. In addition to assuring the personal protection of his master, the future Canadian pioneer could also practice his trade of woodworker.

However, shortly after the seige of La Rochelle, Richelieu delegated his duty as governor to his uncle Amador de la Porte, who also had at his disposal a few Swiss, who were, until then, part of the cardinal's guards. In December 1632, the name of Pierre Miville was recorded for the first time in the registries of Brouage. He had already been married to Charlotte Maugis for three years. A first son was born and a daughter was soon to be born, if not so already. Charlotte was originally from Saint-Germain. Was it there or at Brouage that, his marriage took place?

After 1640, it became more and more difficult to earn a living at Brouage. According to the historian Francois Julien Labruyere, the harbor of Brouage, "the most beautiful in France", was narrowing after the residents of La Rochelle, in 1586, had poured twenty barges full of stones into it. They wanted to make it the principal support of the development of the salt mines but, twenty-nine years after its creation, this was the main cause of the failure of the salt mines in the gulf of Saintonge. In the middle of the seventeenth century, the canal was no longer being maintained. "The marsh that they had taken so much trouble to build and to maintain became spoiled...Fevers developed and the population deserted this ancient gulf where many languages were spoken".

AT LA ROCHELLE

Probably finding himself without work, Pierre Miville decided to move to La Rochelle. On November 5, 1646, the master blacksmith Pierre Maloiseau leased him a piece of land on the terraces, located near the walls of Saint-Nicolas and the gate of la Verite, for sixteen livres tournois in annual and perpetual land rent payable on Saint-Louis' Day. Miville then ordered the master mason Jacques Riorteau to build him a house. The foundation of which would be two feet thick until it emerged from the soil, then eighteen inches to the roof. This house, with a double fireplace, would be covered with tile. The price requested was seven livres per square foot. On December 7, 1647, the contract was annulled, with permission for the builder to use all of the materials delivered to the site. Was Pierre unable to pay? Had he already decided to come to New France?

La Rochelle was only a brief stop for the Mivilles. Less than two years after this contract was canceled, probably due to a lack of financial resources, it is logical to believe that the recruiters from New France lured them by the advantages of the new country and that undeveloped, rich lands awaited them upon their arrival. On May 29, 1649, in the name of the Compagnie des Habitants, Jean-Paul Godefroy and Jean Juchereau mobilized four ships leaving La Rochelle for Canada, including the GRAND CARDINAL, of 300 tons and the NOTRE DAME, of 200 tons. Two Protestant bankers made them a loan "for the big adventure", at 25 per cent. Henry Bardet risked 20,000 livres, Samuel Pagez 10,000 and other merchants from La Rochelle together provided 15,000 more livres, under the same terms.

THREE CONCESSIONS

The GRAND CARDINAL docked at Quebec, on August 24 and the NOTRE-DAME on September 27. On October 5, at Quebec, Marie Miville became the godmother of Marie Chalifour, the eldest daughter of Paul and Jacquette Archambault. This was the first mention of the presence of the Miville family in New France. At that era, Quebec was still only a village of a few tens of houses located on the edge of the river around the institution. The arrival of the Mivilles surely did not pass unnoticed.

On October 29, Governor Louis d'Alleboust de Coulonge did the Miville's an exceptional favor by awarding them three pieces of land. Two of them were perched on a cliff, in the Seigneurie of Lauzon, facing the Plains of Abraham, near what is called today la Coulee or the Patton Coast, at Saint-David de Lauberiviere. One of them, three arpents wide and forty deep, was awarded to the head of the family and the other, located upriver, had a frontage of four arpents, also by forty deep. The fifteen year old Francois became the grantee of this concession. The eldest son of Our Ancestor one day would be called upon to play an important role in his family.

On this same October 29, Pierre Miville received a second piece of land on the road to Saint-Louis, (today the Grande-Allee), in the vicinity of Quebec. An area of 26 arpents of this land would pass to his daughter, Marie, on November 28, 1650, through the marriage contract signed by Audouart, reached between her and Mathieu Amiot dit Villeneuve. This land would be re-attached to the Chatellenie de Coulonge in 1668. The Miville family undoubtedly received shelter at Quebec during their first winter in New France because it was too late for them to build a house.

VOYAGE TO LA ROCHELLE

During the winter of 1655-1656, Pierre Miville made a brief stay in France. This voyage mentioned in an act written on December 2, 1655, concerning the awarding of a pew, in the church of Quebec to Francois Miville, son of Pierre. Gathered for the occasion were the pastor Jerome Lalemant and the church wardens, Guillaume Couillard, Henri Pinguet, Jean Juchereau de Maure and Jacques Maheu. The place designated was the "5th row or timbers which serve as seats beginning from the confessional which is below the pew of Sieur Noel Morin the place measures in all three feet from top to bottom projecting ten feet from the wall of the north side running towards the nave to be used by the said Francois Miville he and his heirs into perpetuity". Charlotte Maugis, the mother of the recipient, was present and promised to have the documents ratified by her husband "upon his return from France to this country".

The reason for this voyage is revealed to us by Raymond Ouimet, the biographer of Our Ancestor. He went to look for a servant. Pierre Miville embarked in mid-October 1655. On March 13, 1656, he was at the home of the Notary Pierre Moreau, at La Rochelle, with Andre Bouget, master mason and stone cutter, living in this city and thirty years old, to hire him for three years at a salary of 90 livres per year, for everything that the employer "orders him in the said country of Canada". It seems that this committment was never finalized. Pierre returned to his loved ones on May 20, 1656. If he had been able to deliver messages from a few compatriots, he had not attained for himself the desired objective.

LAND AT QUEBEC

Pierre Miville owned at least two lots in the city of Quebec. One was on Rue Saint-Louis and the other was on Rue Saint-Pierre. The first measured 24 feet, on one end and 12 feet, on the other, had already belonged to Antoine Martin dit Montpellier. On August 9, 1654, he sold it to Charles Phelippeaux, a master gun and locksmith, for 500 livres. This act reveals that, the Ancestor was living usually on the coast of Lauzon. The lot, which had been ceded to the seller by Jean de Lauzon, included a house located between that of Christophe Crevier dit la Meslee and the enclosure of Messire Guillaume Vignal, priest and chaplain of the Ursuline sisters of Quebec. Pierre Miville, Charles Phelippeaux, Jehan/Jean Bonard dit Lafortune, Pierre Saucois and the notary signed the act. In a rider, dated September 28, 1655, P.MIVILE (sic) acquitted Phelippeaux of his debt.

The "Papier terrier de la Compagnie des Indes occidentales", dated November 2, 1667, mentions the appearance of Francois Miville, in the name of his father. The latter admitted holding from the seigneurs of this country a place in the Lower-Town of Quebec, consisting of twenty feet in one direction and twenty-two in the other, bordered on one side by Noel-Jeremie Lamontagne and on the other, the street which goes from the public place to the shore. This lot was charged with six deniers for the cens "portent lots and ventes", payable each year to the collector of the Domaine of Quebec on the feast day of Saint-Remy. On this lot, Miville built a house consisting of one heated room, a small lean-to, a cellar and an attic. Everything belonged to Pierre Miville by a deed that he had obtained from the late Jean de Lauzon, then governor, on the date of May 20, 1656.

INOPPORTUNE VISIT

The year 1657 was particularly difficult for the French colonists scattered along the banks of the Saint Lawrence between Trois-Rivieres and the Ile d'Orleans. They had to be constantly on the alert because, the Iroquois were on the prowel and made numerous victims among the Hurons and spread destruction around the homesteads. A report by the Jesuits said that the French had been pillaged at Cap a l'Arbre (today Cap a-la-Roche) by the Iroquois.

"These barbarians, out of umbrage (feeling offended) that they have for our Folks in their country, committed many insolences, pillaging the houses, killing the animals of the French metairies".

Pierre Miville was counted among the victims of those raids. The journal of the Jesuits reported that, on May 6, 1657, "at noon, the Onondagas killed a cow belonging to Pierre Bivil (sic) le Suisse, on the bank across from his home. He fired over their heads without effect. They killed a pregnant sow belonging to the same man again".

A LITTLE BUSINESS

It was also in 1657 that, it was reported that the Mivilles arranged to participate a little in the commercial life of the colonists of that era. On July 30, the merchant Jean Fouquet acknowledged that, Pierre gave him 40 livres, on account, for the cost of two barrels of wine which Jean Rivault (Riviereau) owed him for delivery. Had Miville bought this wine for himself or for trading?

On November 22, Pierre Soumande, Francois Miville, Pierre Naulin de la Fougere and Antoine Poulet/Paulet, brother-in-law of Francois Miville's and ship's carpenter, formed an association for working the "main part of a boat thirty feet from the keel" which Poulet/Paulet was obliged to build as soon as possible, with the help from the partners in searching for the necessary wood and for the payment of 114 livres required from each. A discount of 60 livres would be granted to those who made one thousand feet of oak planking.

THE COMMUNITY LIFE

Since their establishment, on the coast of Lauzon, the Mivilles became more and more involved in the community life of their social circle. They had been preceded to the coast of Lauzon only by Francois Bissot, Guillaume Couture and the Jesuits. To organize the defense of their territory against the Iroquois, Couture was appointed captain of the militia and Miville second in command.

A COSTLY ERROR

An unfortunate incident occured on the first of July, 1664, at Quebec. Pierre Miville was imprisoned at the Chateau Saint-Louis and the next day the King's administrator had him appear and accused him of having "committed sedition and intentionally, through open force, accompanied individuals to kidnap passengers sent by the King, to the prejudice of the distribution which had been ordered by the Council".

After hearing nine witnesses and the statement of Sieur Giffard, the Sovereign Council ordered Miville to ask for the King's pardon (represented by the governor) and the Sovereign Council assembled at the Chamber and to be "banished in perpetuity from Quebec and relegated to his house located on the Coast and Seigneurie of Lauzon". It was also "ordered that he keep his banishment and not leave the area of the said Seigneurie of Lauzon on penalty of the gallows. And for this purpose will be taken as far as the said seigneurie by two bailiffs of this Council". The accused was also ordered to pay a fine of 300 livres "payable without delay, payable namely one-third to the King, for use in the cost of the war and the remaining two-thirds to the poor of the Hotel-Dieu of this city". To this was added, finally, the legal expenses.

As was noted, justice of that era was of extreme severity. It did not grant undue favors. To break the royal orders could lead all offenders to hanging on the gallows. Pierre Miville undoubtedly had the most serious lesson of his life.

CHARLOTTE TAKES OVER

The execution of this sentence forced Pierre Miville to lie low in his domain in the Seigneurie of Lauzon. In 1661, he sold some merchandise to Antoine Pepin dit Lachance. On July 31, the latter acknowleged owing him 56 livres and 8 sols, which he would pay in effects and products of the country at the end of harvest time.

In August 1664, Charlotte Maugis took over the administration of her husband's affairs. She represented him in matters which necessitated his presence at Quebec. On August 27, the Notary Michel Filion summoned her to his office to accuse her of receiving, from councillor Louis Rouer de Villeray, 55 livres for a release from the estate of the late Ignace Sevestre des Rochers. Sieurs Jean Bourdon de Dombourg and Jacques Breschon de Bellefond signed the complaint with the notary. On June 22, 1661, when he was on the Ile d'Orleans, Ignace Sevestre had been massacred by the Iroquois at the same time as Jean de Lauzon junior, Nicolas Couillard de Bellroche and four other Frenchmen.

THE CANTON OF THE SWISS FRIBOURGEOIS

On July 16, 1665, shortly after the arrival in New France of the first companies of the Carignan Regiment which had the mission to restrain the depredations of the Iroquois nations, the new governor, the Marquis Prouville de Tracy, agreed to concede a domain called Canton des Suisses fribourgeois, to some compatriots, who had perhaps arrived with the famous regiment, whom Pierre Miville and his sons desired to see settled here. This domain would be located on the Grande-Anse (Sainte-Anne-de-la-Pocatiere). A width of twenty-one arpents, on the river and 40 arpents deep, this concession was divided equally between the seven designated concessionaires, Pierre Miville, his sons, Francois and Jacques, Francois Tisseau, Jean Gueuchuard, Francois Rime and Jean Cahusin. This planned canton was located fifteen leagues downstream from Quebec. On the other side towards Tadoussac, stretched the lands not ceded.

This concession was made by way of cens and seigneurial rents payable to the Domain of the King on each Saint-Remy's Day, the first of October. The tenants would have the right to hunt, fish and to use the fields both in front of and on their concessions and they would be obliged to fence their pastures to prevent the animals from injuring themselves. The cens cost 20 sols and the rent would be one sol and two live capons. Did Rime, Tisseau, Gueuchuard and Cahusin take possession of these lands? Nothing has been found to prove it. The census of 1666 and 1667 do not mention them. The censustaker also forgot Captain Guillaume Couture and his Lieutenant Pierre Miville, in 1666. On the other hand, he found them both at Lauzon Coast in 1667. Pierre said that, he was 65 years old, his wife, Charlotte, 60 and their son Jacques, 25. They had in their employ a 40 year old servant named le Lorain. There was also mention of eight head of cattle and 30 arpents of land under cultivation. Francois Miville, Marie Langlois and their first three children were also recorded. Francois had cleared a dozen arpents but does not seem to have owned any animals yet.

ONE SWISS IS WORTH TWO FRENCHMEN

The Swiss immigration, so desired by Minister Colbert and Intendant Talon, did not work out. On April 5, 1667, the Minister asked the Intendant to prepare himself to receive two hundred to three hundred Swiss, whom the King could recruit in the Catholic cantons and send to Canada the following year. On October 27, Talon answered him. The news of this decision pleased him so much that, he was ready to welcome even more of them. "The plan that you make to recruit three hundred or four hundred Swiss from the Catholic Cantons to send them here, especially delights the residents of Canada, who having received this year very weak men, who are inclined to do to very little useful work. As for me, I am persuaded that one man from his nation is worth at least two from ours for what is done in this country. A single one from the same nation who finds himself here has put the fruit of his work in a condition to build some ships and I have already accepted one of them from him for which I have paid him two thousand livres".

The builder of this ship that Talon referred to, without naming him, was Pierre Miville dit le Suisse, who served as a model for him to state "that one man from this nation is worth two from ours". In an act signed by Rageot and dated October 6, 1667, Charlotte Maugis "wife authorized by Pierre Miville dit le Suisse to whom she had promised to represent, agreed to the documents", acknowledged having received from Messire Jean Talon, councillor, squire and intendant, the amount of 2,000 livres tournois in gold or in silver, from the hands of Sieur Charles Pingard, secretary of the intendant, both this day and previously. She said that, she was content, satisfied, well paid and gave a receipt to the buyer.

The act specifies that, this amount, indeed, be used for the purchase of another ship, the construction of which had been undertaken about eighteen months earlier and which did not include any rigging. The parties had, for the occasion, been summoned to the town house of the intendant. Pierre Miville must not have undertaken such a task alone. His sons, Francois and Jacques, perhaps even his son-in-law, Antoine Poulet/Paulet, also a ship's carpenter and his employee le Lorain, not otherwise identified, must have helped to build it.

Pierre Miville and his crew built more than one ship. In the same letter, Talon verifies that his contractor had a boat in the shipyard similar to the one that he had built "to be used for fishing in the lower Saint-Lawrence River. I am in negotiations with this resident and two others, almost of his skill, to make them undertake for their account and that of M. de Courcelle, a ship with a capacity of three hundred to four hundred tons, offering to pay the expenses which this enterprise demands, as well as that of the trade to be established with the Antilles where this ship could transport what this country produces and what the other lacks".

HE SUCCUMBS TO THE TASK

If one Swiss like Pierre Miville was worth two Frenchmen as stated by Talon, it was because he had twice the ardor and capacity for the work. It was a waste of time to clear and to work his lot. He wore himself out wanting to produce the best ships in New France. Two years later, he succumbed and returned to Quebec feet first towards his grave.

He died, on October 14, 1669, in his house on the Lauzon Coast at ten o'clock in the evening after having received the sacraments of confession and extreme unction". His funeral took place the next day, in the church at Quebec and his body was buried in the parish cemetery.

This biography was taken from "Our French-Canadian Ancestors" by Thomas J. Laforest: Volume 27- Chapter 6- Page 105 [2-24-99, James Gagne

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Pierre Miville est originaire du canton de Fribourg, en Suisse, où il est né vers 1602. Mais c’est en France, vers 1629, qu’il a épousé Charlotte Mongis, jeune femme originaire de Saint-Germain en Saintonge. Au printemps de l'année 1649, il traverse au Canada avec son épouse et six enfants. A son arrivée, il se fait concéder des terres sur la côte de Lauzon, juste en face des Plaines d'Abraham. Ces terres sont situées près de la coulée Patton, dans la paroisse Saint-David-de-l’Auberivière. Et c’est là que l’ancêtre Miville, devenu capitaine de milice, a pratiqué le métier de menuisier pendant vingt ans.

En 1665, plusieurs colons, originaires du canton de Fribourg, obtiennent une concessions à la Grande-Anse, aujourd’hui La Pocatière, qu’ils nomment « Canton des Suisses fribourgeois ». Cette tentative de colonisation a cependant été un échec et les Suisses, mis à part les Miville, ont quitté la Nouvelle-France pour retourner en Europe. Seul Jacques Miville, le fils cadet de Pierre, s’établira à la Grande-Anse sur une terre située à la rivière Saint-Jean.

Pierre Miville est décédé le 14 octobre 1669, à Lauzon, tandis que Charlotte Mongis est morte au même endroit le 11 octobre 1676.

Pierre Miville

(Ancêtre des Miville, Minville, Mainville, Deschênes, etc.)

"Port de La Rochelle", illustration de Barday, Musée des Hospitalières de l'Hôtel-Dieu de Montréal.

Comme en font foi plusieurs documents, Pierre Miville était surnommé "Le Suisse". Il est identifié clairement comme Suisse dans un contrat de concession accordé par Tracy en 1665. Émigré en France, Pierre Miville a vécu dans la région de La Rochelle qu'il a quittée au milieu du XVIIe siècle pour venir en Nouvelle-France.

Les Miville en Nouvelle-France

Pierre Miville serait arrivé en Nouvelle-France en fin d'août 1649 avec ses six enfants dont l'âge varie de neuf à dix-sept ans, quatre filles et deux garçons : Marie, François, Aimée, Madeleine, Jacques et Suzanne. Il s'agirait d'une des plus nombreuses familles arrivées en Nouvelle-France.

En octobre 1649, Pierre Miville obtient une terre de vingt-six arpents à Québec (près de Bois-de-Coulonge aujourd'hui), une terre de trois arpents de front sur quarante dans la seigneurie de Lauzon et une terre pour son fils François, dans la même seigneurie. Pierre Miville ne conserve sa terre de Québec qu'une seule année puisqu'il la cède à son gendre en octobre 1650. Incidemment, ses quatre filles se sont mariées rapidement, avant même l'âge de 18 ans. : Marie épouse Mathieu Amyot, en 1650. Aimée épouse Robert Giguère et Madeleine épouse Jean Cauchon, en 1652. Suzanne épouse Antoine Paulet en 1655. François se marie seulement en 1660, à 26 ans, et Jacques est toujours chez ses parents à cette époque; il ne se marie qu'à 30 ans, en 1669. Jacques a probablement appuyé son père dans ses activités agricoles

Agriculteurs ou commerçants?

Mais les Miville étaient-ils essentiellement agriculteurs? Pierre Miville est identifié comme menuisier. Jacques est parfois identifié comme charpentier. En 1667, 18 ans après la concession de sa terre de Lauzon, Pierre Miville n'a toujours que 30 arpents en valeur, ce qui n'est pas énorme compte tenu du rythme habituel de défrichement. On peut croire qu'il est probablement occupé à d'autres choses. Entre 1651 et 1654, il acquiert un emplacement à Québec, sur la rue Saint-Louis; il le revend en 1654. Au moment de la vente, on le dit habitant de Lauzon. En 1656, il obtient de Jean Lauzon un emplacement sur la rue Saint-Pierre; entre 1656 et 1667, il y fait construire une maison qu'il conservera jusqu'à son décès.

En 1665, Pierre Miville, ses deux fils et quatre autres Suisses obtiennent une concession de terre dans ce qui est aujourd'hui La Pocatière. Il y a plusieurs aspects particuliers à souligner dans cette concession. C'est Tracy qui leur accorde un domaine de 21 arpents de front sur 40 qu'il désigne sous le nom de "Canton des suisses fribourgeois", ce qui élimine tout doute quant à l'origine ethnique des Miville que l'acte de concession identifie comme "Suisses".

Cette curieuse tentative de colonisation communautaire ne semble avoir eu aucune suite. On ne trouve aucune trace des quatre autres Suisses associés aux Miville. Ils étaient possiblement du régiment de Carignan. Qu'allaient-ils donc faire dans cette région, alors qu'on ne trouvait personne d'établi, à cette époque, en bas de Cap-Saint-Ignace? Si Pierre Miville veut seulement attirer des colons, pourquoi le fait-il dans une région déserte, alors qu'il peut avoir des terres dans la région de Québec, d'autant plus que son fils François est le procureur fiscal du seigneur de Lauzon et qu'il y est lui-même capitaine de milice?

En fait, ces questions s'éclairent si on pose comme hypothèse que Pierre Miville et ses fils se sont adonnés à la traite des fourrures peu après leur arrivée en Nouvelle-France.

La succession de Pierre Miville

"Québec", XVIIe siècle, Bibliothèque nationale du Québec

Pierre Miville décède à Lauzon le 14 octobre 1669. Il résidait là depuis qu'il avait été banni de Québec pour avoir tenté, l'arme à la main, de kidnapper un engagé sur un bateau amarré en face de Québec! Le lendemain, il est inhumé à Québec. Peu après, sa veuve et ses deux fils créent une société pour faire la traite des fourrures. Dès l'été suivant cependant, on doit dissoudre cette société et composer avec les créanciers. En effet, les Miville ont acheté des marchandises à crédit, mais, à cause de la mortalité et de la maladie "chez les sauvages", et aussi faute de neige, ils ont connu un hiver désastreux. Cette aventure marque le début de nombreux ennuis pour la famille. À compter de 1670, les dettes commencent à s'accumuler. En 1672, c'est la saisie, par huissier, des propriétés de Lauzon et de Québec. François Miville intervient pour exiger que soit soustraite de la saisie la part des enfants, soit la moitié des biens saisis. Il obtient justice en mai 1673 devant le Conseil souverain.

Pour ajouter aux malheurs de la famille, les créanciers demandent, en 1674, que la veuve Miville soit mise en tutelle, "attendu qu'elle est en démence". C'est François Miville qui devient le tuteur de sa mère. Celle-ci décède le 10 octobre 1676, et aussitôt, les quatre filles de Pierre Miville liquident ce qu'elles avaient reçu en héritage de leur père au profit d'Alexandre Petit, marchand à La Rochelle, tandis que François et Jacques semblent avoir réglé leurs affaires plus tard.

Il reste beaucoup d'incertitudes, de points d'interrogation et de zones grises dans le dossier de nos connaissances sur Pierre Miville. Le regroupement des énergies et des informations au sein de notre association permettra sans doute de combler certaines lacunes et d'expliquer les points obscurs dans la biographie de notre ancêtre.

Gaston Deschênes, Québec

31 août 2002

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Source : Version corrigée d'un texte paru dans Le Fribourgeois, 1, 1 (hiver 1988), p.4-6. Peu après la parution de cet article, Raymond Ouimet publiait Pierre Miville, un ancêtre exceptionnel, aux Éditions du Septentrion.

Leur fils aîné, François s’est vu promu seigneur de Bonne-Rencontre, sur la rivière Chaudière. Quant à Jacques, il deviendra la souche de la lignée des Miville-Deschênes.


Devient chef de milice quand ?

- info de la généalogie de Jean-Guy Doré


Pierre Miville remains, still today, somewhat mysterious person to 

anyone interested in his biography. We know neither his birth place nor
where he married, but a quick survey of the people who dealt with him
allow us to better know the man.
Probably accompanied by many Swiss companions who came to fight with the
French army. Pierre Miville arrives in France during the 1620's. Since
the year 1515, when Francois the 1st defeated the Swiss in Marignan,
Switzerland supplied soldiers to the king of France and at the seige of
La Rochelle (1627-1628) Cardinal Richelieu's army included a large Swiss
effective force (1). Was Pierre one of them? It's very possible for, on
a wedding act celebrated in St-Hilaire d'Hiers on June 25, 1635 Pierre
Miville witness is qualified as "souice de Monseigneur le cardinal
demeurant en Brouage..." (Monsignor the Cardinal's Swiss, living in
Brouage). This Cardinal could be no other than Richelieu, Prime Minister
to Louis XIII, then titular governor of Brouage.
Three of Miville's children's baptismal act give precious indications on
Pierre Miville's relations: That of Aimee tells us that her godfather
was Francois Guibourg, lord of Val and secretary to the governor of
Brouage, and Suzanne's baptismal act indicates Rene Yvon, butler and
cellarman to the same governor, as her godfather(2). The most
interesting christening act is Francois:
“Ce seize may 1634 a esté baptisé François fils de Pierre Miville et de
Charlotte Mongis & a eu pô parrain François Saboureux Sr de St Thomas
sergent Major de Brouage et marraine Marie Boursier.”
Chauvin St Thomas
P. Goupil Curé Marie Boursier
His godfather was a soldier, quartermaster-sergeant of the city's
garrison. One of the act's signers was Francois Chauvin, an important
person in Brouage for he was the engineer in charge of supervising the
erection of the fortification of the city. These baptismal acts prove
without a doubt, that Pierre Miville was in good relationship with
Brouage nobility.
The last mention of the Miville family in Brouage is on May 17, 1643 ,
when Charlotte Mongis is godmother to Claude Cotart, the son of Nicolas
and of Jeanne Mouchette. The Mivilles seem to have left for better
skies. Why? In December 1642, Richelieu dies in Paris. As foreseen,
Armand de Maille, duke of Breze, becomes governor of Brouage, but in
June 1646, he is killed while fighting in Orbitello (Italy) Ann of
Austria, the the regent of the kingdom of France, succeeds him. Since
she can't fulfill her duty, she is represented by lieutenant-general
Louis Foucault, count of Daugnon, already on the premises, who dismisses
the former govenors' menservants to replace them by partisans. Pierre
Miville, now approximately 46 years old, is probably jobless when in
1648 an uprising known as "war of the fronde break out, which will
become a civil war. Having lived in Brouage for 15 years, the Miville
family had definitely heard of Samuel de Champlain's discoveries,
himself a Brouage kid and since known as "the father of the new France".
Probably attracted by the new world promises, Pierre then decides to try
his luck with all his family.
The Mivilles arrive in New France very likely in the summer of 1649. One
must ask himself whether or not, prior to his departure for Quebec,
Pierre had guarantees about his settlement in the colony for shortly
after his arrival, he obtains not one but two grants of land: one in the
seigniory of Lauzon, the other in the suburbs of Quebec, on the
Grande-Allee, between the seignories of Saint-Francois and
Saint-Jean(5). And that's not the end of it. In 1654, Pierre Miville
will proclaim having a "house located in Quebec continuous on one side
to the enclosure of Squire Guillaume Vignal Priest and Chaplin ...
consisting in twenty-four fathom-measure of land in one direction and
twelve on the other.. due to the deed gift made over by Monseignor Jean
de Lauzon advisor to the King on his State and Privy Concil Governor and
lieutenant general for his majesty in the Country of New France..."(6)
Pierre Miville probably had continued dealings with Jean de Lauzon. Had
they not both been to the service of Richelieu? Besides, at Aymee's
wedding Miville's second daughter, Lauzon will attend the ceremony thus
showing his esteem to the family.(7) On May 20, 1656, Lauzon will grant
to Pierre Miville, just coming back from France , a piece of land in
downtown Quebec, on St Pierre Street.(8)
Mercenary carpenter and habitant in alternance, Pierre Miville will
maintain throughout his life, the relations, sometimes turbulent with
the upper crust of the colony. His sons will be well-noted: Francois
will become lord of the manor of Bonne-Rencontre and Jacques will marry
a noble lady Catherine de Baillon.
This story was written in 1988 edition of Le Fribougeois "Les
descendants de Pierre Miville inc." by Raymond Ouimet a well-known and
highly respected Canadian Historian.


Christened 1602 Canton Fribourg, Switzerland

Master wood joiner. Captain of the Hill Lauzon. Came from LaRochelle. One of his descendants died at Louisianna, USA at the age of 120. rec'd appointment of Capt. of Lauzon coast.

from online DULONG pedigree:

Pierre Miville dit Le Suisse

b: abt 1602 in Fribourg Canton, Switzerland

m: abt 1631 in D'Hiers-Brouage, Charente-Maritime Dept., Saintonge

d: 14 Oct 1669 in Lauzon, Lévis Co., QC

Master wood joiner. Captain of the Hill Lauzon.

another source gives: Pierre (dit Le Suisse) Miville, born 1602 in Fribourg, Switzerland  

Emigrated: 1649, Arrived Quebec Abt. 1628, Left Switzerland for France
Occupation: Premier Capitaine de La Cote de Lauzon

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Notes to Volume XLIII

(ref to p37)

Pierre Miville (as the name is given in the Notre Dame registers), a native of La Rochelle, brought his family to Canada before 1640; he died at Quebec in October 1669. Tanquay mentions him as captain (presumably of militia) of Cote Lauson.

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translated: The Mivilles in Nouvelle-France

It is assumed that Pierre Miville arrived in Nouvelle France in the 1640's His family is said to be one of the largest families to settle in Nouvelle-France. In the Month of October 1649, Pierre Miville is given land measuring some 25 acres in Quebec City (near today's Bois-de-Coulonge). a land of 570 feet wide by 7600 feet long on the sieinory of Lauzon and, for his son Francois, another piece of land on the same domain. Pierre Miville keeps the Quebec City land for one year only, giving it to his son-in-law in 1650. Let's mention that Miville's four daughters get rapidly married, before they reached 18 years of age: Marie gets married to Mathieu Amyot in 1650, Aimée to Robert Giguére and Madeleine to Jean Cauchon in 1652, and Suzanne to Antoine Paulet in 1655. As for his sons, Francois gets married in 1660 at the age of 26, while Jacques still lives with his parents. The latter gets married in 1669, at the age of 30. He probably helped his father farm the land.

According to several deeds and other documents, Pierre Miville was known as "Le Suisse" (The Swiss). A concession contract awarded by Tracy in 1665 clearly identifies Pierre Miville as being Swiss. He emigrated to France and lived in the region of LaRochelle from where he sailed to Nouvelle-France France in the middle of XVIIth century. His children were all baptized in the Brouage region and their father's Swiss origin is clearly stated in certain deeds. for instance: This second day of May 1639, in the church of St-Hilaire d'Heirs, was baptised Jacques, son of Pierre Miville, of Swiss origin, and of Charlotte Mougis, his wife residing in the town of Brouage. Jacques is the godson of Issac Miville and Salome Lomene.

None as yet has been able to determine Pierre Miville's birthday. He is certainly from the township if not from the city Fribourg, since he is identified as "Suisse fribourgois" in the 1665 contract. Born around 1602, according to enumerations. Pierre Miville's date and place of marriage are still unknown. Jette says "around 1631" in Brouage, an assumption probably founded on Marie Mivlle's birthday in 1635. Charlotte Maugis, his wife, claimed to be from Saint-Germain, in Saintonge and according to the census, she would have been born in 1607. However, when she died in 1676, she was said to be 95 years old, which is very whimsical because she would have given birth to her last daughter at the age of 60 or 61.

Was Pierre Miville Protestant? We know that he lived in the region of LaRochelle, a Protestant stronghold, and that a man named Issac Miville stood godfather to Jacques, Pierre's second son. This leads us to assume that he was Protestant.

===================================================== ========= Amiot-Villeneuve to Gauthier to Brunet to Larocque Line======================================================

Phillipe Amiot, born about 1602 Soissons, Chartres, France; died September 26, 1639 Quebec; married November 22, 1625 Soissons, Chartres, France, to Anne Convent, born about 1607 Soissons, Chartres, France, daughter of Guillaume Convent and Antoinette DeLongeval; died December 25, 1675 Quebec. Anne Convent also married Jacques Mahew on September 26, 1639, and Etienne Blanchon on September 10, 1666.

Known children of Phillipe Amiot and Anne Convent were: Jean Amiot, born about 1625; died May 23, 1648 Trois Rivieres, PQ, Canada; married to Marguerite Poulin about 1645 Mathieu Amiot, born about 1628 in Chartres, France; died December 19, 1688 in Quebec; married to Marie Miville November 22, 1650 in Quebec Jean Gencien Amiot, born 1635 Soissons, Chartres, France; died April 16, 1708 Quebec; married August 7, 1673 to unkown woman Charles Amyot, born August 26, 1636 in Quebec; died December 10, 1669 in Quebec; married Genevieve DeChavigny on May 2, 1660 Notre Dame, Quebec

Pierre "LeSuisse" Miville, born about 1602 Fribroug, Suisse, Can. Fribourg, Suisse, son of Francois Isaac Miville (who was the son of (Jacques Miville) and Salome Lomene; died October 14, 1669 Cote de Lauzon, PQ, Canada; married about 1629 Charentes, Maritimes, France to Charlotte Maugis, born about 1607 St. Germain, Saint Onge, France, daughter of Alphonse Maugis and Louise DeMerle; died October 10, 1676 Cote de Lauzon, PQ, Canada.

Known children of Pierre "LeSuisse Miville and Charlotte Maugis were: Amyee Miville, born about 1629 in Switzerland Gabriel Miville, born about 1630 Notre Dame, de Brouage, France; died November 11, 1635 Notre Dame, de Brouage, France Jacques Miville, born about 1632 Switzerland Marie Miville, born December 13, 1632 Notre Dame, de Brouage, France; died September 5, 1702 Hotel Dieu Quebec City, PQ, Canada; married November 22, 1650 to Mathieu Amiot in Notre Dame, Quebec, Canada Francois Miville, born May 16, 1634 Notre Dame, de Brouage, France; died November 23, 1711 Riviere Ouelle, Kamouraska, PQ, Canada; married August 10, 1660 - spouses: Marie Langlois & Jeanne Savonet Aimee Miville, born August 12, 1635 Notre Dame, de Bourage, France; died December 10, 1713 St. Anne Beaupre, Montmorency, PQ, Canada; married July 2, 1652 Notre Dame, Quebec, Canada to Robert Giguere Madeleine Miville, born November 18, 1636 Notre Dame, de Bourage, France; married November 20, 1652 Chapelle Pere, Jesuit, Quebec, Canada to Jean Cauchon Jacques Deschenes Miville, born May 2, 1639 St. Hilaire, Hiers-Brouage, Saintonge, France; died January 27, 1687/88 Riviere Ouelle, PQ, Canada; married November 12, 1699 Notre Dame, PQ, Canada to Catherine DeBaillon Suzanne Miville, born January 24, 1639/40 St. Hilaire, d'Hiers-Brouage, France; died August 29, 1675 Ste. Famille, Montmorency, PQ, Canada; married April 12, 1655 to Antoine Poulet/Paulet

Next generation: Mathieu Amiot-Villeneuve, born about 1628, and Marie Miville, born December 13, 1632. Information above.

Known children were: Charles Amiot-Villeneuve, born October 20, 1651 Quebec; died October 23, 1711 Quebec; married October 22, 1677 Quebec City, New France to Rosalie Duquet Marie Catherine Ursule Amiot, born April 21, 1664 Quebec; died November 29, 1715 Lauzon, PQ, Canada; married November 1, 1683 Neuville, PQ, Canada to Jean Duquet-Desroches Etienne Amiot-Villeneuve, born November 10, 1672 Quebec; died December 17, 1730 St. Augustin, PQ, Canada; married October 15, 1708 Quebec to Jeanne Campagna; married August 13, 1721 to Marie Anne Poitras, born October 20, 1709 Pierre Amiot-Villeneuve, born January 27, 1653 Quebec; died between 1708 and 1714 Portneuf, PQ, Canada; married October 12, 1681 to Jeanne Renard; married Before 1687 to Louise Jeanne Taudiere Anne Marie Amiot, born March 21, 1654 Quebec; died December 16, 1737 Levis, PQ, Canada; married April 30, 1670 Notre Dame, Quebec to Jean Huard, son of Marin Huard and Julienne Bouillet Marguerite Amiot, born January 24, 1656 Quebec; died February 26, 1724; married June 19, 1670 Quebec to Jean Jolly/Joly Jean Baptiste Amiot-Villeneuve, born June 25, 1658 Quebec; died September 19, 1685 Quebec; married July 20, 1682 Notre Dame, Quebec to Genevieve Guyon du Rouvray Francoise Amiot, born July 12, 1660 Quebec; died February 8, 1735/36 St. Augustin, PQ, Canada; married November 5, 1675 Quebec to Charles Gingras Jean Amiot-Villeneuve, born May 10, 1662 Quebec; died 1681 Daniel Joseph Amiot-Villeneuve, born October 4, 1665 Quebec; married September 9, 1709 to Marie Kapiouarnokoue/Kapi8arnok8e; second marriage to Domithilde Oukabe/Nepveuouikabe/LaFourche, daughter of KeWaNoQuat, sister of NisSoWaQuet - an Ottawa Indian Woman; Daniel died about 1726. Mathieu Amiot-Villeneuve, born August 23, 1667 Quebec; died December 2, 1684 Quebec Philippe Amiot-Villeneuve, born April 9, 1669 Quebe4c; died March 13, 1722 Portneuf, PQ; married October 25, 1694 Portneuf, PQ, Canada to Marie Harnois Jeanne Amiot, born November 22, 1670 Quebec; married February 26, 1691 to Paul Tessier Marie Amiot, born 1674 Quebec; died November 7, 1714 Quebec Marie Francoise Amiot, born June 13, 1676 Quebec; died November 23, 1758 Montreal, PQ, Canada; married November 24, 1699 St. Augustin, PQ, Canada to Jean Baptiste Thibaut Genevieve Amiot, born November 5, 1678 Quebec; died November 13, 1678 Quebec

Next: Daniel Joseph Amiot-Villeneuve, born October 4, 1665 Quebec, and Domitilde/Domethilde Oukabe/LaFourche. Information found above. Domitilde later married Augustin Langlade in 1728 (I have some information on his ancestors)

Known children of Daniel Joseph Amiot-Villleneuve and Domitilde Oukabe: Daniel Villeneuve, born 1712; baptised September 27, 1712 at the Mission of St. Ignace de Michillimakinak; married to Madeleine _____ Anne Villeneuve, born 1715; baptized March 8, 1716 at the Mission of St. Ignace de Michillimakinak; died 1757; married to Antoine Guillory Marie Louise Theresa Villeneuve, born 1720; baptized January 10, 1720 at the Mission of St. Ignace de Michillimakinak; died 1749; married October 2, 1736 to Claude Gautier Jean Baptiste Villeneuve, born 1722; baptized May 13, 1722 at the Mission of St. Ignace de Michillimakinak; died 1759 Nanette Villeneuve, born 1723; died 1757; married to Charles Chaboillez Constant Villeneuve, born 1725; died 1759 Agathe Villeneuve, born 1726; died 1801; married 1745 to Francois Boisguilbert; married to Pierre Souligny; married to Amable Roy

Next: Claude Gautier/Gauthier (also listed as Claude Charles Germain Gautier/Gauthier de Verville); died 1757; and Marie Louise Villeneuve, born in 1720. Information above.

Known children were: Claude Charles Gautier, born about 1738; died 1803; married January 1, 1779 Prairie du Chien, WI to Magdeleine Paschal Chevalier (had many children by Panis Indian Woman owned by his uncle, Charles de Langlade before his marriage to Magdeleine Chevalier) Jean Baptiste Gautier, born 1740 Marie Gautier born May 19, 1742 Joseph Augustin Gautier, born October 3, 1745 Claude Germain Gautier, born October 3, 1745

Next: Claude Charles Gautier/Gauthier de Verville, born February 3, 1737/38. Information above. (Panis was used by French to denote a Slave)

Known Children with Sioux Woman: Catherine Gautier; married to Jean Baptiste Brunet Marguerite Gautier; married to _____ Rollett Known

children with Winnebago Woman: Charles Gautier; married a Chippewa Woman named Josette Bartemi Gautier _______ Gautier

Known children with Ottawa Woman: Joseph Gautier Victor Gautier

Known children with Sac-Fox Woman: Francois Gautier; married to Rosalie LaPoint Jean Baptiste Gautier; married to Ursule LaPoint

Known children with Menominee Woman: Pierre Gautier Antoine Gautier

Known children with his wife, Magdeleine Paschal Chevalier: Magdeline Gautier, born 1780; married to Henry Monroe Fisher Domitille Madeleine Gautier, born 1781; married to Michael Brisbois, Jr. (births and marriages of these two children took place in Prairie du Chien)

Next: Jean Baptiste Brunet and Catherine Gautier/Gauthier. Only known child at this time was Catherine Brunet who married Basile Larocque on July 27, 1811 at Notre Dame, Montreal, PQ, Canada

Back to EARLY UPPER GREAT LAKES FAMILIES Home Page ============================================================ == Known children of Pierre "LeSuisse Miville and Charlotte Maugis were: Amyee Miville, born about 1629 in Switzerland Gabriel Miville, born about 1630 Notre Dame, de Brouage, France; died November 11, 1635 Notre Dame, de Brouage, France Jacques Miville, born about 1632 Switzerland Marie Miville, born December 13, 1632 Notre Dame, de Brouage, France; died September 5, 1702 Hotel Dieu Quebec City, PQ, Canada; married November 22, 1650 to Mathieu Amiot in Notre Dame, Quebec, Canada Francois Miville, born May 16, 1634 Notre Dame, de Brouage, France; died November 23, 1711 Riviere Ouelle, Kamouraska, PQ, Canada; married August 10, 1660 - spouses: Marie Langlois & Jeanne Savonet Aimee Miville, born August 12, 1635 Notre Dame, de Bourage, France; died December 10, 1713 St. Anne Beaupre, Montmorency, PQ, Canada; married July 2, 1652 Notre Dame, Quebec, Canada to Robert Giguere Madeleine Miville, born November 18, 1636 Notre Dame, de Bourage, France; married November 20, 1652 Chapelle Pere, Jesuit, Quebec, Canada to Jean Cauchon Jacques Deschenes Miville, born May 2, 1639 St. Hilaire, Hiers-Brouage, Saintonge, France; died January 27, 1687/88 Riviere Ouelle, PQ, Canada; married November 12, 1699 Notre Dame, PQ, Canada to Catherine DeBaillon Suzanne Miville, born January 24, 1639/40 St. Hilaire, d'Hiers-Brouage, France; died August 29, 1675 Ste. Famille, Montmorency, PQ, Canada; married April 12, 1655 to Antoine Poulet/Paulet ============================================================ ======= More About Pierre Miville and Charlotte Maugis: Marriage: Abt. 1631, Brouage/Rochefor, DIO/Saintes, Saintonge, France4815

Children of Pierre Miville and Charlotte Maugis are:

 i.   Marie Miville, born 13 December 1632 in BAP: N-D de Brouage, Saintonge, France4815; died 05 September 1702 in Hotel-Dieu, St-. Augustin, Quebec4816; married Mathieu (dit Amyot) Amiot, Sieur 22 November 1650 in Ville-de-Quebec, Quebec4816,4817; born Abt. 1628 in DIO/Soissons, Picardie, France4818; died 19 December 1688 in BUR: Ville-de-Quebec, Quebec4819,4820.  More About Marie Miville: Baptism: 24 February 1660, Confirmed at Quebec4821 Emigrated: Abt. 1649, Arrived Canada4821

about Mathieu (dit Amyot) Amiot, Sieur:
Baptism: 10 August 1659, Confirmed at Quebec4822,4823 Emigrated: 1636, Arrived Canada with Parents Event: 1668, "Lettres de Noblesse par Louis XIV"

1667, Owned 27 arpents of land & 9 livestock; Quebec

Occupation: "Sieur de Villeneuvre", "Seigneur de La Pointe-au-Bouleux"  Seigneuries: 1672, Bonsecours

More About Mathieu Amiot and Marie Miville: Contract notary: 19 November 1650, Guillaume Audouart Marriage: 22 November 1650, Ville-de-Quebec, Quebec
ii. Francois Miville, born 16 May 1634 in Brouage (Notre-Dame), Charente-Maritime, France ; married (1) Marie Langlois 10 August 1660 in Quebec, Quebec ; born 30 September 1646 in Quebec4831; died 14 August 1687 in Quebec ; married (2) Jeanne Savonet 07 November 1692 in Riviere-Ouelle, Kamouraska, Quebec . More About Francois Miville and Marie Langlois: Marriage: 10 August 1660, Quebec, Quebec
413 iii. Aimee Miville, born 12 August 1635 in N-D de Brouage, DIO/Saintes, Saintonge, France; died 09 December 1713 in Ste. Anne/Beaupre, Montmorency, Quebec; married Robert Giguere 02 July 1652 in Ville-de-Quebec, Quebec.
iv. Madeleine Miville, born 18 November 1636 in Brouage (Notre-Dame), Charente-Maritime, France4836; married Jean (Cochon) Cauchon 20 November 1652 in Quebec ; born Abt. 1628 in OF: St-Jacques, Dieppe, France . More About Jean Cauchon and Madeleine Miville: Marriage: 20 November 1652, Quebec
v. Jacques Miville, born 02 May 1639 in Brouage (Notre-Dame), Charente-Maritime, France ; died 27 January 1688 in Riviere-Ouelle, Kamouraska, Quebec ; married Catherine Baillon 12 November 1669 in Quebec, Quebec ; born Abt. 1645 in OF: Montfort-l'Amaury, Chartres. France ; died 27 January 1688 in Riviere-Ouelle, Kamouraska, Quebec . More About Jacques Miville: Burial: 28 January 1688, Riviere-Ouelle, Kamouraska, Quebec Cause of Death: Smallpox? Confirmation: 24 February 1660, Confirmed at Quebec
More About Catherine Baillon: Burial: 30 January 1688, Riviere-Ouelle, Kamouraska, Quebec Cause of Death: Smallpox?
More About Jacques Miville and Catherine Baillon: Marriage: 12 November 1669, Quebec, Quebec
vi. Susanne Miville, born 24 January 1640 in Hier-Brouage (Notre-Dame), Charente-Maritime, France More About Susanne Miville: Confirmation: 08 October 1659, Confirmed at Quebec
Not sure if this is in here but decided to add:

"Captain of the Hill of Lauzon" One of seven Swiss men grantedland by the King of France in Canada. He was employed between1665 and 1669 at at Lauzon, Levis, QC, CN, master carpenter. Hepurchased land on 16 Jul 1665 at La Pocatiere, Kamouraska, QC,CN (Listed in a sales contract at La Pocatiere, 16 Jul 1665, asone of seven Swiss from Fribourg: Pierre Miville, his sonsFrancois Mivelle and Jacques Miville, Francois Rime, FrancoisTisseau, Jean Gueuchard, and Jean Cahusin. The 'fief Miville',located on the river Chaudiere and including l'Ile Fortunee, wassold 03 Nov 1672).

Pierre MIVILLE dit La Suisse was born in 1602 in ,, Fribourg,Switzerland. He died on 14 Oct 1669 in Lauzon,

Quebec, Canada. If it appears that there were not a lot of Swisswho settled in Canada, but it seems that there were quite a

few who came and settled in Acadie. When Pierre du Gua, sieur deMonts, started a settlement on Ile Sainte-Croix in 1604, hisLieutenant, Samuel de Champlain., who laid the foundations, hadbuilt a little home that was known as the Logement des Suisses.

Pierre Miville was born at Brouage, in the canton of Fribourg.We don't know when he left Brouage, but he married there,

around 1631, Charlotte Maugis, and it was with his six childrenthat the couple would settle in the valley of Saint-Laurent.

Pierre Miville dit Le Suisse had two sons: Francois and Jacques,both born at Brouage in 1634 and 1639 respectively.

Jean de Lauzon, intendant of the Compagnie des Cent-Associes andfuture Governor of France, was granting large plots of

land in the colony as he was one of the principle landowners. Hewished to increase the value of his lots, so in the Autumn of

1649, Pierre Miville and his son, Francois, were among those whoreceived concessions in the seignuerie of Lauzon, facing

Quebec.

The father was surely not a model of patience. He desired tospeed up the work and wanted to have some helpers to assist him

with it, but they refused to bring them from France.

After several years of waiting in vain, he exploded. During thecourse of the summer of 1664, he wanted to recruit by force one

of the clearers who had recently arrived at Quebec.

Too bad he did that, since the Conseil Souverain did not treatlightly this type of behaviour.

After having imprisoned him at the chateau Saint-Louis, theycondemmed him to a fine of 300 pounds and banned him for lifefrom the city of Quebec. The baillifs accompanied him up untilthe seigneurie of Lauzon, where he never seems to have left,except for being buried at Quebec five years later.

This event, however, doesn't seem to have hurt his reputation,since, one year after his sentance, he and hi sons Francois andJacques between them had seven concessions of land they receivedfrom the Leiutenant General of Prouville de Tracy, who washolding land at the Grande Anse (La Pocatiere) to build a"Canton des Suises Fribourgeois," which would house four others,namely, Francois Rime, Francois Tisseau, Jean Gueuchard and JeanCahusin. The document states all of them are

Swiss, even if the brothers Francois and Jzaques Miville wereborn at Brouage.

The historian Pierre-Georges Roy, who had studied this project,wrote that the attempt at colonisation by the Swiss was not

succesful and that only the Mivilles left descendants in NewFrance, adding that the Miville-Dechene's have mostly settled inthe

region of Kamouraska.

For the census of 1667, we find the Mivillle's in the regions ofLauzon. Jacques was living with his parents, and he would marry

two years later. The parents were owners of a concession of 30workable acres of land with eight heads of cattle. Their next

door neighbour and son, Francois, had cultivated twelve acres.Then, fourteen years later, the census recorders passed by

again. Francois was still living in the seiugneurie of Lauzon,but had only cleared another five acres of land. It would appear he changed proffesions, as he states he is a carpenter/joiner like his father.

As for Jacques, he is living in the seigneurie of Bouteilerie,where he had eight acres of workable land and owned seven heads of cattle.


Originaire de Suisse, Il se marie en France.


Isaac Milville and Salome Lomene were Pierre's godparents. (from http://www.miville.com/miville4/135.html)

Source: Dictionary of Canadian Biography Online 1000-1700 (Volume I)

"MIVILLE, PIERRE, known as Le Suisse, master-joiner, pioneer and captain of the Lauson shore: d. 14 Oct. 1669. Swiss by birth, Miville came to Canada via La Rochelle at a date that has not been established with certainty but that was previous to 28 Oct. 1649, on which date he, along with his son François, received from the governor, Louis d’Ailleboust, a grant of land in the seigneury of Lauson, which was later raised to the status of an arriere-fief. Miville apparently tried to entice some of his compatriots to Canada. In fact, on 16 July 1665, M. de Prouville de Tracy granted him, along with his sons and four other persons, a concession measuring 21 arpents by 40 at Grande Anse (La Pocatière), naming the locality “the Canton of the Fribourg Swiss.” This undertaking was unsuccessful. Pierre Miville stayed at Lauson until his death, 14 Oct. 1669. In France he had married Charlotte Maugis, who bore him six children at least; one of them, Jacques, was the founder of the Miville-Deschênes families of North America.

Honorius Provost

“Le canton de Suisses Fribourgeois,” BRH, XX (1914), 233f. L-E. Roy, Histoire de la seigneurie de Lauzon, I, 69–71."

de Fribourg Suisse; Capitaine de la côte de Lauzon; menuisier

One of his descendants died at Louisianna, USA at the age of 120. rec'd appointment of Capt. of Lauzon coast.

▼References

↑ FrancoGene.

 Dictionary of Canadian Biography Online, Volume I, 1000-1700.

http://www.biographi.ca/009004-119.01-e.php?&id_nbr=473&interval=20...


Originaire de Suisse, il se marie en France.


arrived in Quebec in 1649


Pierre Miville est originaire du canton de Fribourg, en Suisse, où il est né vers 1602. Mais c’est en France, vers 1629, qu’il a épousé Charlotte Mongis, jeune femme originaire de Saint-Germain en Saintonge. Au printemps de l'année 1649, il traverse au Canada avec son épouse et six enfants. A son arrivée, il se fait concéder des terres sur la côte de Lauzon, juste en face des Plaines d'Abraham. Ces terres sont situées près de la coulée Patton, dans la paroisse Saint-David-de-l’Auberivière. Et c’est là que l’ancêtre Miville, devenu capitaine de milice, a pratiqué le métier de menuisier pendant vingt ans.

En 1665, plusieurs colons, originaires du canton de Fribourg, obtiennent une concessions à la Grande-Anse, aujourd’hui La Pocatière, qu’ils nomment « Canton des Suisses fribourgeois ». Cette tentative de colonisation a cependant été un échec et les Suisses, mis à part les Miville, ont quitté la Nouvelle-France pour retourner en Europe. Seul Jacques Miville, le fils cadet de Pierre, s’établira à la Grande-Anse sur une terre située à la rivière Saint-Jean.

Pierre Miville est décédé le 14 octobre 1669, à Lauzon, tandis que Charlotte Mongis est morte au même endroit le 11 octobre 1676.

Leur fils aîné, François s’est vu promu seigneur de Bonne-Rencontre, sur la rivière Chaudière. Quant à Jacques, il deviendra la souche de la lignée des Miville-Deschênes.

Jacques Miville dit Deschênes

Ainsi, le patronyme Miville dit LeSuisse devient Miville dit Deschênes avec Jacques Miville dit Deschênes. Baptisé à St-Hilaire d'Hiers, près de Brouage, en Saintonge, le deux mai 1639, Jacques épouse Catherine Marie de Baillon, fille d'Alphonse, écuyer et sieur de la Massicotterie, et de damoiselle Loyse de Marle, de la paroisse des Layes, en Île-de-France. Cette fille du roi, née en 1645 et arrivée à Québec en 1669, était donc d’origine noble.

De l'union du couple naîtront sept enfants (4 garçons et 3 filles). Trois de leurs fils se sont mariés et ont fondé des familles nombreuses. Ils ont généreusement contribué à perpétuer le nom des Miville dit Deschênes au pays.

Jacques Miville dit Deschênes et son épouse Catherine Baillon sont morts à une ou deux journées d’intervalle en janvier 1688. Un millier de personnes avaient été alors victime de l’épidémie de fièvres pourpres.

Source: Raymond Ouimet

Membre de la Société de généalogie de l'Outaouais

             de la Société généalogique canadienne-française

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La source de ce texte provient d'une recherche de M. Raymond Ouimet publiée aux éditions du Septentrion en 1988 et intitulée Pierre Miville - Un ancêtre exceptionnel, et d'une recherche faite conjointement avec Nicole Mauger et dont le résultat sera publié aux éditions du Septentrion l'automne prochain sous le titre Catherine de Baillon - Enquête sur une fille du roi.
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Il nait en 1602 à Fribourg, Suisse.

Il est maître menuisier. Il épouse Charlotte Maugis, fille de Alphonse Maugis et Louise de Meril en 1631 à Brouage, Rochefort, Charente-Maritime, Poitou-Charentes, France.

Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse obtient une concession de trois arpents de front sur quarante de profondeur dans la seigneurie de Lauzon, Chaudière-Appalaches, Québec, Canada en le 28 octobre 1649 de Louis d' Ailleboust, seigneur de Coullanges et d'Argentenaye par devant Guillaume Audouart de Saint-Germain.

Le 6 mai 1657 les Iroquois tuent à Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse une vache sur la grève vis-à-cis son logis. Alexandre, marquis de Tracy concédait une terre de vingt-quatre arpents de profondeurs appelée Grande Anse, Sainte-Anne-de-la-Pocatière, Bas-Saint-Laurent, Québec à Jean Cahusin, Jean Guencherard, François Tisseau, François Rimé, Jacques Miville dit Deschênes, François Miville dit LeSuisse et Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse en juillet 1665. Il est capitaine de la côte de Lauzon. Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse, Charlotte Maugis, Jacques Miville dit Deschênes et le Lorrain vivaient en 1667 à la côte de Lauzon, Chaudière-Appalaches, Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse possédait huit bestiaux et trente arpents de terre en valeur. le Lorrain fut domestique de Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse en 1667 à la côte de Lauzon. Il fut capitaine en second de la côte de Lauzon.

Il décède le 14 octobre 1669 à Lauzon, Chaudière-Appalaches. Il est inhumé le 15 octobre 1669 à Québec, Capitale-Nationale, Québec.


Captain of the coast Lauzon.


Il venait de Fribourg,Suisse

Capitaine de la Côte Lauzon

Ancêtre d'Octave Crémazie

Menuisier



He was military (captain of coast-Lauzon). He became a joiner and worked in the coast of Lauzon.



DE Fribourg,Suisse
Capitaine de la Côte Lauzon Menuisier


Maître-menuisier, Master Carpenter, Cultivateur, master cabinetmaker, Captain on the Lauzon coast, Pioneer, Maitre menuisier, Master wood joiner, Pioneer & Captain, maitre menuisier, Maître-menuisier et capitaine en second de la Cote de Lauzon


aussi connu sous le nom de Pierre Miville 5, 6 et Pierre Miville dit Le Suisse 4.

Il est le fils de Isaac Miville 4 et Salomé Lomène 4.

Il nait en 1602 à Fribourg, Suisse 1, 6, 15. Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse est maître menuisier 12, 16. Il épouse Charlotte Maugis fille de Louise de Meril et Alphonse Maugis en 1631 à Brouage, Rochefort, Charente-Maritime, Poitou-Charentes, France 1, 4, 12, 17, 18. Louis d' Ailleboust, seigneur de Coullanges et d'Argentenaye concède trois arpents de front sur quarante de profondeur dans la seigneurie de Lauzon à Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse le 28 octobre 1649 par devant Guillaume Audouart de Saint-Germain 19, 20. Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse se fait tuer une vache par les Iroquois le 6 mai 1657 21. Concède une terre de vingt-quatre arpents de profondeurs appelée à Grande Anse, Sainte-Anne-de-la-Pocatière, Bas-Saint-Laurent, Québec, Canada à Jean Cahusin, Jean Guencherard, François Tisseau, François Rimé, Jacques Miville dit Deschênes, François Miville dit LeSuisse et Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse en juillet 1665 11. Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse est capitaine de la côte de Lauzon 22. le Lorrain est domestique de Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse en 1667 à la côte de Lauzon, Chaudière-Appalaches, Québec 1. Jacques Miville dit Deschênes, le Lorrain, Charlotte Maugis et Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse résident à la côte de Lauzon en 1667 1. Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse possède huit bestiaux et trente arpents de terre en valeur en 1667 1. Pierre Miville dit LeSuisse est capitaine en second à la côte de Lauzon 12, 16. Il décède le 14 octobre 1669 à Lauzon, Chaudière-Appalaches 23. Il est inhumé le 15 octobre 1669 à Québec, Capitale-Nationale, Québec 12, 23.

Liste de ses enfants connus:

+ 1. Madeleine Miville (1636 - 1708) 7 (de Charlotte Maugis) + 2. Suzanne Miville (1640 - 1675) 3, 8 (de Charlotte Maugis) + 3. Marie Miville dite LeSuisse (1632 - 1702) 9, 10 (de Charlotte Maugis) + 4. François Miville dit LeSuisse (1634 - 1711) 11, 12 (de Charlotte Maugis) + 5. Marie-Aimée Miville (1635 - 1713) 13 (de Charlotte Maugis) + 6. Jacques Miville dit Deschênes (1639 - 1688) 1, 14 (de Charlotte Maugis)

  7. Gabriel Miville (1630 - 1635) 4 (de Charlotte Maugis) 1. Internet - Recensement de 1667 en Nouvelle-France, référant au tome IV, chapitre IV du livre Histoire des Canadiens-Français de Benjamin Sulte, édition 977, compilé par Jean-Guy Sénécal (senecal@fmed.ulaval.ca) le 17 mars 1998.

2. Tanguay - Volume 1, p. 133, 267, 435, 436, 468

3. Les Députés des Trois-Rivières - p. 18

4. Courriel de Darleene Watkins - 3 décembre 2007

5. Courriel de Jacques Fortin - 19 décembre 2007

6. Courriel de Dona Cauchon - 13 avril 2007

7. Tanguay - Volume 1, p. 133, 435

8. Tanguay - Volume 1, p. 435, 468

9. Tanguay - Volume 1, p. 6, 435, Volume 2, p. 30

10. Histoire de Lauzon - p. 610

11. Histoire de Lauzon - p. 135

12. Tanguay - Volume 1, p. 435

13. Tanguay - Volume 1, p. 267, 435

14. Tanguay - Volume 1, p. 435, 436

15. Tanguay - Volume 1, p. 435 (La Rochelle)

16. Histoire de Lauzon - p. 136

17. Fichier GEDCOM de C. Leduc - (1629 à Fribourg)

18. Courriel de Dona Cauchon - 13 avril 2007 (1629 à La Rochelle)

19. Histoire de Lauzon - p. 134

20. Le Premier colon de Lévis - p.95

21. Histoire de Lauzon - p. 178

22. Courriel de R. Charron-Chénier - 7 janvier 2004

23. Histoire de Lauzon - p. 333

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http://histoiresdancetres.com/vaillancourt/pierre-miville-dit-le-su... Pierre Miville est l’ancêtre de nombreux Québécois. Il compte parmi les dix pionniers ayant fourni le plus grand nombre de descendants, selon le Programme de recherche en démographie humaine de l’Université de Montréal (PRDH). Les Miville, Mainville, Minville ou Miville-Deschenes et Deschenes sont pour la plupart des descendants en ligne masculine directe de l’ancêtre. Du côté des Vaillancourt, il est notre ancêtre par sa fille Suzanne Miville , du côté des Chartrand-Poitras, par ses enfants Madeleine, Aimée et Jacques.

Cathédrale de Fribourg

Pierre Miville est né vers 1602, possiblement croit-on, dans le canton de Fribourg en Suisse. Au début de la vingtaine, il se serait engagé comme mercenaire pour le roi de France. Les Suisses sont fort appréciés comme soldat. Un maréchal de l’époque disait : «Un corps de Suisse est dans une armée française ce que sont les os dans un corps humain ; non seulement pour leur valeur, mais surtout pour leur discipline et patience, qui ne se décourage par aucun revers ni retardement. Aussi les Suisses sont aussi fiers à la fin d’une campagne qu’au commencement».

Depuis la bataille de Marignan de 1515, seuls le roi de France et le pape peuvent avoir des mercenaires suisses. Cet accord toujours effectif aujourd’hui pour le Vatican, a été appliqué jusqu’en 1792 pour la France.

Selon toute probabilité et bien que cette thèse reste à être prouvée (lire à ce sujet le livre de Raymond Ouimet, Pierre Miville un ancêtre exceptionnel aux éditions Septentrion ), Miville aurait participé au siège de La Rochelle en 1627-1628. Richelieu, le grand conseiller de louis XIII avait décidé de prendre La Rochelle, bastion protestant considéré par l’Angleterre comme lieu potentiel de débarquement pour un envahissement du territoire français.

Après un peu plus d’un an de siège, La Rochelle se rend. À la même époque, on retrouve Pierre Miville, non loi de là, à Brouage, lieu de naissance de Champlain, où avec d’autres compatriotes suisses, il a pu faire partie de la garde personnelle du principal ministre de Louis XIII, nul autre que Richelieu[1]. C’est à cette époque, vers 1630, qu’il épouse une fille de la région, Charlotte Mongis . Un premier enfant nommé Gabriel va naître peu après, mais il décède à l’âge de cinq ans. Puis six autres vont suivre de 1632 à 1640. Tous survivront.

Carte de la Saintonge en 1621

En passant par La Rochelle

Après la mort de Richelieu, l’équipe de garde et de serviteurs est remplacée. À ce moment, Pierre Miville quitte Brouage pour s’installer avec sa famille à La Rochelle maintenant pacifiée. Il a bien l’intention d’y bâtir maison. Il loue une terre en 1646, engage un maître maçon, donne des consignes de construction détaillées. Après un an, cependant, les conditions de location du terrain n’étant pas remplies, le contrat est déclaré nul.

La Nouvelle-France

Deux ans plus tard, à l’été 1649, Pierre Miville s’embarque pour la Nouvelle-France. Les traversées de l’Atlantique à l’époque étaient, on le sait, pénibles et risquées. Les conditions hygiéniques déplorables menaient souvent à la mort. Pierre entraîne dans l’aventure outre sa femme Charlotte, ses enfants Marie 17 ans, François 15 ans, Aimée 14 ans, Madeleine, 13 ans, Jacques 10 ans et Suzanne, 9 ans. Lui-même approche la cinquantaine. Heureusement, tous arriveront sains et saufs à Québec où la famille sera chaleureusement accueillie.

Dès leur arrivée, on leur octroie une terre située dans la seigneurie de Lauson face à Québec, mais avant de traverser de l’autre bord du fleuve, Miville et sa famille habiteront d’abord dans la ville qui les a accueillis sur la rue Saint-Louis dans une maison que lui aurait offerte Jean de Lauson. D’ailleurs, au moment du mariage de ses trois premières filles, Marie, Aimée et Madeleine, la famille vit toujours à Québec. Les quatre filles se marient avant l’âge de 18 ans.

En 1654, soit cinq ans après son arrivée, on dit que le Suisse demeure habituellement à la Côte de Lauzon. L’endroit est peu peuplé et dangereux à cause des attaques répétées des iroquois. Commence-t-il seulement à développer sa terre ? Ses deux fils sont maintenant parfaitement en âge de lui prêter main forte.

Retour en France

Cela n’empêchera pas notre ancêtre, dès l’année suivante, de prendre la décision risquée de retourner en France pour aller chercher des engagés. La mer est dangereuse. Trois bateaux sur six cette année-là, périront ou seront victimes d’attaques. À La Rochelle, Miville fera quelques commissions, rendra quelques services, mais il reviendra bredouille après une tentative ratée de signature de contrat avec un dénommé André Bouget «masson et tailleur de pierre ». Une offre d’avance salariale inférieure à la moyenne pourrait être la cause de cet échec.

De retour en Nouvelle-France, Le Suisse s’installe de nouveau à Québec où Jean de Lauson lui concède un nouvel emplacement situé au coin de la rue Saint-Pierre et de la rue qui mène de la place publique jusqu’au fleuve.

Site de la maison habitée par Pierre Miville à Québec

Pierre Miville menuisier

Le métier d’agriculteur ne convient peut-être pas tout à fait à Pierre Miville. Dix-huit ans après son arrivée, seulement 30 arpents ont été mis en valeur. D’ailleurs, il se définit lui-même comme menuisier et consacre sans doute beaucoup de temps à son métier de constructeur.

En compagnie d’autres maîtres menuisiers comme Jean le Vasseur, il met sur pied en 1657 la confrérie de Sainte-Anne Les confréries rassemblaient les ouvriers d’un même métier. Le clergé encourageait ses confréries qui exigeaient de leurs membres des actions spirituelles et sociales.

Le métier de menuisier comprenait, à l’époque, différentes tâches reliées à la décoration, l’architecture et l’ameublement. Plus tard, Miville construira même un petit vaisseau pour Jean Talon avec ses fils et son gendre Antoine Paulet, charpentier de navire.

Attaque iroquoise

Pour faire face aux attaques iroquoises trop fréquentes, on a mis en place un peu partout en Nouvelle-France, des milices prêtes à intervenir en cas de besoin. Pour la seigneurie de Lauson, Guillaume Couture, voyageur et interprète réputé, a été nommé capitaine. Pierre Miville est capitaine de milice en second.

Dans la revue Relations, les Jésuites racontent qu’à l’époque, Miville a dû affronter seul un groupe d’Iroquois : «Sur le midi Les Onontaeronons tuèrent une Vache appartenant à Pierre Miville dit le Suisse sur la grève vis-à-vis de son logis. Il tire un pierrier dessus les Onontaeronons sans effet. Ils tuèrent encore une truie pleine appartenant au même».

Bannissement

À la fin juin 1664, frustré par les autorités coloniales qui refusent régulièrement de lui procurer un engagé, il entreprend un coup de force qui lui vaudra le bannissement de la ville de Québec.

Un bateau en provenance de Normandie accoste à Québec avec à son bord des hommes prêts à travailler que les autorités doivent répartir chez les gens du pays. Accompagné de quelques habitants se sentant victimes de la même injustice, il tente de kidnapper des hommes encore sur le bateau en rade de la ville.

Conseil souverain

Emprisonné sur le fait, il ne tardera pas à être convoqué devant le conseil souverain et le dur verdict tombe : il est banni à vie de Québec et devra dorénavant limiter ses déplacements à la seule seigneurie de Lauson. De plus, il doit payer sur le champ une somme de 300 livres d’amende. S’il contrevient à cette obligation de confinement, il est passible de pendaison. Ni plus, ni moins.

À partir de ce jour, il ne remettra plus les pieds à Québec. Son épouse effectuera les nécessaires transactions dans la capitale en son nom.

Canton des Suisses fribourgeois

Il semble qu’un groupe de Suisses originaires de Fribourg ait vécu un temps dans la colonie. En juillet 1665, soit un an après le bannissement de Miville, le sieur de Tracy leur a d’ailleurs concédé une terre (20 x 40 arpents) à la Grande Anse (La Pocatière) dans ce qu’on a alors appelé le Canton des Suisses fribourgeois. François Rimé, François Tisseau, Jean Gueuchard et Jean Cahusin faisaient partie du groupe tout comme Pierre Miville et ses deux fils, comme quoi la réputation de notre ancêtre n’était pas si entachée qu’on aurait pu le croire suite à la mésaventure de l’année précédente. Parmi ces Fribourgeois, seuls les Miville laisseront des descendants en Nouvelle-France.

Les enfants Miville

Tous les enfants Miville se marieront auront de grosses familles. Leur destin sera somme toute plutôt enviable, compte tenu du contexte de l’époque.

L’année suivant l’arrivée de la famille à Québec, l’aînée, Marie épouse Mathieu Amyot, originaire d’une famille à l’aise arrivée dans la colonie 14 ans plus tôt. Leurs deux fils, Jean et Mathieu, accompagneront les Jésuites au pays des Hurons et deviendront d’excellents interprètes. L’époux de Marie fit partie de la liste des personnes que Jean Talon recommande pour un titre de noblesse en 1667. Mathieu recevra donc ses lettres de noblesse mais négligera, sans doute par ignorance, de les faire enregistrer au Conseil souverain de Québec.

François, le deuxième de la famille, sera nommé en 1659 procureur fiscal de la seigneurie de Lauzon, puis en 1661, il est promu seigneur et sa terre devient un arrière-fief.

Aimée, la troisième, épouse Robert Giguère en 1652. Elle a 17 ans. Le gouverneur de la Nouvelle-France Jean de Lauson est présent lors de la cérémonie.

Quant à Madeleine, la quatrième, elle épouse Jean Cochon fils de du procureur fiscal de la seigneurie de Beaupré, Jean Cochon.

Jacques, le second fils, épouse Marie-Catherine Baillon, de la vieille noblesse de France, descendante de Charlemagne et de Louis VII. Ambitieux Jacques , il a l’intention d’établir le fief des Chesnes à La Pocatière, sur la terre tout d’abord concédée par le marquis de Tracy à la famille Miville et que, depuis lors, l’intendant Talon lui a concédée en propre. Il fait accoler le patronyme Deschesnes à son nom.

Quant à Suzanne Miville, la dernière, elle épouse Antoine Poulet ou Paulet, dont le métier est charpentier de navire. Il devait être celui qui dirigeait les travaux avec son beau-père, lors de la construction du petit vaisseau pour Jean Talon. Suzanne devra prendre en main une situation dramatique lorsque sa fille Anne, âgée de 10 ans seulement, sera un jour victime de viol de la part d’un nommé Jean Ratté qui sera pour cette faute condamné à mort «pendu et étranglé jusqu’à ce que mort s’ensuive».

Décès

Pierre Miville décède le 14 octobre 1669. Il est alors âgé d’environ 67 ans. Avant de mourir, il reçoit les derniers sacrements, puis il sera enterré dans la ville de Québec là où il n’a pu revenir de son vivant, la peine de bannissement n’ayant jamais été effacée.

Signature de Pierre Miville

Charlotte Mongis

http://www.nosorigines.qc.ca/GenealogieQuebec.aspx?genealogie=Pierr... Concession 16/7/1665, a sept Suisses du canton de Fribourg (Pierre Miville, son fils Francois Miville, son fils Jacques, Francois Rime, Francois Tisseau, Jean Gueuchard et Jean Cahusin, du Canton de Suisse Fribourgeois a la Pocatiere, concession du fief Miville 03/11/1672 sur la riviere Chaudiere, avec l'Ile Fortunee.

S 15 octobre 1669, registres Notre-Dame, Québec, Le LaFrance Pierre Miville dit le Suisse, décédé le jour précédent en sa maison de la côte de Lauzon sur les 10 heures du soir

http://www.zonecousinage.com/getperson.php?personID=I971&tree=entier Arrivée en Nouvelle-France à l'automne 1649 avec sa femme et ses enfants. Le premier enfant connu de Pierre Miville dit le Suisse et de Charlotte Mongis, Gabriel, est baptisé dans la paroisse Saint-Hilaire à Hiers (aujourd'hui Hiers-Brouage) le 2 mai 1639. Gabriel est décédé en novembre 1635


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Pierre Miville (about 1602 - 1669) also known as Le Suisse

Swiss by birth, Miville came to Canada via La Rochelle at a date that has not been established with certainty but that was previous to 28 Oct. 1649, on which date he, along with his son François, received from the governor, Louis d’Ailleboust, a grant of land in the seigneury of Lauzon, which was later raised to the status of an arriere-fief. Miville apparently tried to entice some of his compatriots to Canada. In fact, on 16 July 1665, M. de Prouville de Tracy granted him, along with his sons and four other persons, a concession measuring 21 arpents by 40 at Grande Anse (La Pocatière), naming the locality “the Canton of the Fribourg Swiss.” This undertaking was unsuccessful. Pierre Miville stayed at Lauzon until his death, 14 Oct. 1669. In France he had married Charlotte Maugis, who bore him six children at least; one of them, Jacques, was the founder of the Miville-Deschênes families of North America.

Pierre Miville dit Le Suisse (1602 - 1669), also known under the name of Mivile.

Father and mother: His father and mother are unknown, not Isaac Miville and Salome Lomène as some have claimed. According to PREFEN, Isaac Miville would be his brother or cousin.

Birth In 1602, he was born in the canton of Fribourg, Switzerland.

He is a master carpenter.

Marriage: In 1631, he married Charlotte Maugis in Brouage, Rochefort, Charente-Maritime, Poitou-Charentes, France. 7 children were born, all in France.

1649: Arrival in Nouvlle France. He knows how to sign. Other members of his family who emigrated with him: Charlotte Maugis his wife, his children: François Miville Marie Miville, Aimee Miville Madeleine Miville, Suzanne Miville, Jacques Miville and Isaac Miville, brother or cousin.

On 28 October 1649, Louis of Ailleboust, Lord of Coullanges and of Argentenaye. conceded three acres in front by forty deep in the fiefdom of Lauzon to Pierre Miville said LeSuisse, before Guillaume Audouart.

Faced with too frequent Iroquois attacks, was set up everywhere in New France, militias ready to intervene if necessary. For the fiefdom of Lauzon, Guillaume Couture, traveler and renowned interpretor, was named captain. Pierre Miville was appointed first mate.

On 6 May 1657 the Iroquois kill a cow and a pig, owned by Pierre Miville on the shore facing his house. He pulls a scree above the Onontaeronons without effect.

Banishment: In late June 1664, frustrated by the colonial authorities who regularly refuse to give him a hired hand, he tries to kidnap men newly arrived from France, still on the boat in the harbor of the city. Imprisoned on the fact he is banned for life from Quebec (city) and will now have to limit his movements with the sole fiefdom of Lauzon. In addition, he must pay immediately a fine of 300 livres. If he violates this duty of containment, he is punishable by hanging. No more no less.

In July 1665, Alexander Marquis de Tracy, conceded a land of 20 X 40 acres at the Grande Anse (Sainte-Anne-de-la-Pocatière), Bas-Saint-Laurent, Canada, in what has then called the Canton of Fribourg Swiss. to Jean Cahusin, Guencherard Jean Francois Tisseau François Rime, Jacques Miville, François Miville, Pierre Miville.

Census 1667 Pierre Miville, 65; Charlotte Mauger, 60; Jacques Miville, 27; Lorrain, domestic, 40; 8 cattle, 30 acres under cultivation. They live on the coast of Lauzon.

Death On October 14, 1669, on 10 pm, aged about 67 years, he died at his home in Lauzon, and was buried October 15, 1669 in Quebec City, where he could never return in his lifetime, the pain of banishment has never been erased.


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Concession 16/7/1665, a sept Suisses du canton de Fribourg (Pierre Miville, son fils Francois Miville, son fils Jacques, Francois Rime, Francois Tisseau, Jean Gueuchard et Jean Cahusin, du Canton de Suisse Fribourgeois a la Pocatiere, concessiondu fief Miville 03/11/1672 sur la riviere Chaudiere, avec l'Ile Fortunee.

S 15 octobre 1669, registres Notre-Dame, Québec, Le LaFrance
Pierre Miville dit le Suisse, décédé le jour précédent en sa maison de la côte de Lauzon sur les 10 heures du soir ; dit LE SUISSE

Concession 16/7/1665, a sept Suisses du canton de Fribourg (Pierre Miville, son fils Francois Miville, son fils Jacques, Francois Rime, Francois Tisseau, Jean Gueuchard et Jean Cahusin, du Canton de Suisse Fribourgeois a la Pocatiere, concessiondu fief Miville 03/11/1672 sur la riviere Chaudiere, avec l'Ile Fortunee.

S 15 octobre 1669, registres Notre-Dame, Québec, Le LaFrance
Pierre Miville dit le Suisse, décédé le jour précédent en sa maison de la côte de Lauzon sur les 10 heures du soi

Pierre Miville était connu comme Pierre Miville dit le Suisse, parce qu'il était de la Suisse. Il a déménagé à La Rochelle, France en 1646, et il a loué des terres sur les terrasses, à proximité des remparts de Saint-Nicolas et la porte de la Verite de Pierre Maloiseau (un maître forgeron).

Pierre a quitté la France le 29 mai 1649, avec sa femme et ses six enfants qui étaient âgés de 9 à 16 ans, la voile sur le Grand Cardinal. Ils se sont bien établis au Québec, mais Pierre est retourné en France en octobre 1655 et est revenu au Québec le 20 mai 1656.

Ils se sont installés à Lauzon, sur les rives du fleuve Saint - Laurent. Ils avaient été précédés sur la côte de Lauzon que par Francois Bissot, Guillaume Couture, et les jésuites. Il était une zone dangereuse pour les colons, à cause de problèmes avec les Iroquois et les Hurons.

Pierre est devenu un constructeur de navire et était connu pour la qualité de ses navires. Il se portait à vouloir produire les meilleurs navires en Nouvelle - France. Il est mort dans samaison sur la côte Lauzon, mais ses funérailles et l' enterrement a eu lieu le lendemain au Québec dans le cimetière paroissial.


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Concession 16/7/1665, a sept Suisses du canton de Fribourg (Pierre Miville, son fils Francois Miville, son fils Jacques, Francois Rime, Francois Tisseau, Jean Gueuchard et Jean Cahusin, du Canton de Suisse Fribourgeois a la Pocatiere, concession du fief Miville 03/11/1672 sur la riviere Chaudiere, avec l'Ile Fortunee. S 15 octobre 1669, registres Notre-Dame, Qubec, Le LaFrance Pierre Miville dit
<p>le Suisse, dcd le jour prcdent en sa maison de la cte de Lauzon sur les 10 heures du soir
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<p>Pierre Miville est originaire du canton de Fribourg, en Suisse, o il est n vers 1602. Mais cest en France, vers 1629, quil a pous Charlotte Mongis, jeune femme originaire de Saint-Germain en Saintonge. Au printemps de l'anne 1649, il traverse au Canada avec son pouse et six enfants. A son arrive, il se fait concder des terres sur la cte de Lauzon, juste en face des Plaines d'Abraham. Ces terres sont situes prs de la coule Patton, dans la paroisse Saint-David-de-lAuberivire. Et cest l que lanctre Miville, devenu capitaine de milice, a pratiqu le mtier de menuisier pendant vingt ans.
<p>En 1665, plusieurs colons, originaires du canton de Fribourg, obtiennent une concessions la Grande-Anse, aujourdhui La Pocatire, quils nomment Canton des Suisses fribourgeois . Cette tentative de colonisation a cependant t un chec et les Suisses, mis part les Miville, ont quitt la Nouvelle-France pour retourner en Europe. Seul Jacques Miville, le fils cadet de Pierre, stablira la Grande-Anse sur une terre situe la rivire Saint-Jean.
<p>Pierre Miville est dcd le 14 octobre 1669, Lauzon, tandis que Charlotte Mongis est morte au mme endroit le 11 octobre 1676.
<p>Leur fils an, Franois sest vu promu seigneur de Bonne-Rencontre, sur la rivire Chaudire. Quant Jacques, il deviendra la souche de la ligne des Miville-Deschnes.
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