Pépin II, lord of Péronne

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Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

- Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

- Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

- Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

- Cunigunda

- Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin, Count of Vermandois

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin, Count of Vermandois

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

The family of Pépin .. and ..

[10410] .., Pépin (Bernard d'ITALIE & Cunégonde .. [10411]), comte, seigneur de Peronne et de Saint-Quentin

married , from .. (France)

.., .. (..)

     1) Héribert Ier, comte, seigneur de Peronne et de Saint-Quentin, died 902, married ..

Bibliographie : Mémoires (Société généalogique canadienne-française)

"Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung."

Pepin II* DE VERMANDOIS (Lord of Peronne)

[295]

ABT 0817 - ABT 0840

   * TITLE: Lord of Peronne

* BIRTH: ABT 0817, Vermandois,Neustria,France
* DEATH: ABT 0840, Milan,Italy
Father: Bernard,* King of ITALY

Mother: Kunigunde* DE TOULOUSSE

Family 1 : Perrone* DE VERMANDOIS

  1. +Herbert I* DE VERMANDOIS

2. +Pip I*
3. +Bernard* DE SAINT LIZ
4. +Gerberge* DE SENLIS
5. +Berenger* DE BAYEUX
6. +Adelaide* DE VERMANDOIS
7. +Bernard* DE SENLIS

Pepin II* DE VERMANDOIS (Lord of Peronne)

[295]

ABT 0817 - ABT 0840

   * TITLE: Lord of Peronne

* BIRTH: ABT 0817, Vermandois,Neustria,France
* DEATH: ABT 0840, Milan,Italy
Father: Bernard,* King of ITALY

Mother: Kunigunde* DE TOULOUSSE

Family 1 : Perrone* DE VERMANDOIS

  1. +Herbert I* DE VERMANDOIS

2. +Pip I*
3. +Bernard* DE SAINT LIZ
4. +Gerberge* DE SENLIS
5. +Berenger* DE BAYEUX
6. +Adelaide* DE VERMANDOIS
7. +Bernard* DE SENLIS

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

From www.wikipedia.org at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin_of_Vermandois

ID: I28884
Name: Pepin Quentin II of Vermandois
Given Name: Pepin Quentin
Suffix: II of Vermandois
Prefix: Count
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 0818 in of Vermandois, Neustria
Death: AFT 0840 in Milan, , Italy
Ancestral File #: 9G82-VT
_UID: 2C348172DDBDD611BF694445535400002C24 1
Change Date: 1 Sep 2002 at 01:00:00

Father: Bernard of Italy b: 0797 in of Vermandois, Austrasia

Mother: Cunigunde of Italy b: ABT 0797 in France

Marriage 1 of Vermandois b: ABT 0820 in of France

Children

  1. Has No Children Bernard of Senlis b: ABT 0844 in of Vermandois, Neustria

2. Has No Children Pepin II of Senlis b: ABT 0846 in of Vermandois, Neustria
3. Has Children Herbert I of Vermandois b: ABT 0848 in of Vermandois, Neustria
Sources:

  1. Title: #719

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

   * Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

* Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)
* Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)
* Cunigunda
* Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis
References

  1. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

2. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16
3. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin,_Count_of_Vermandois

Pipin of Vermandois

Born: 818

Marriage: Unknown

Died: 878, Milan, Lombardia, Italy aged 60

  Another name for Pipin was Pepin II.

General Notes:
The name of his wife is unknown. His children were:

- Herbert I of Vermandois;

- Bernard II (ca. 845 - after 893), Count of Laon;

- Pepin I (ca. 845-893), Count of of Senlis, senior of Valois;

- Adelheid, married Lambert of Spoleto, King of Italy.

 Noted events in his life were:

• He was a Count of Vermandois. and lord of Senlis , of Peronne and of Saint Quentin.

Pipin married.

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

From the French Wikipedia page on Pepin (Herbertien):

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9pin_(Herbertien)

Pépin[1], né vers 815, mort après 840, était fils de Bernard, roi d'Italie et de Cunégonde.

Il est cité comme comte au nord de la Seine à partir de 834 et jusqu'en 840. Il soutint Lothaire Ier dans sa révolte contre son père Louis le Pieux, en 840.

Son épouse est inconnue, mais l'historien Karl Ferdinand Werner, constatant que son fils Herbert Ier a succédé à plusieurs Nibelungides, a émis l'hypothèse que l'épouse de Pépin soit membre de cette famille, et plus particulièrement fille de Théodoric Nibelung, qui est cité comme comte de Vermandois en 876.

En tout cas, Pépin a eu pour enfants :

1. Bernard, comte dans le Laonnois vers 877

2. Pépin, comte au nord de Paris entre 877 et 893

3. Herbert Ier (v.850 † 900/907), comte de Vermandois

4. Cunégonde

5. peut-être une fille qui aurait épousé Bérenger, marquis de Neustrie, puis Guy, comte de Senlis en secondes noces.

Source

Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4)

Notes et références

1.↑ Pépin sur le site de la Fondation pour la généalogie médiévale

In English:

Pepin was born in 815 and died after 840. He was the son of Bernard, King of Italy, and Cunegonde.

He is cited as a Comte north of the Seine in 834 and again in 840. He supported Lothair I in his revolt against his father, Louis the Pious, in 840.

His wife is unknown, but historian Karl Ferdinand Werner notes that his son, Herbert I, inherited several Nibelungid lands, suggesting that the wife of Pepin is a member of this family, likely the daughter of Theodoric Nibelung, which was cited as the Comte de Vermandois in 876.

In any case, Pepin had several children:

1. Bernard, Comte de Laon, to 877.

2. Pepin, Comte de Paris and the north, between 877 and 893.

3. Herbert (c. 850 to 900/907), Comte de Vermandois

4. Cunegonde

5. Perhaps a daughter who married Berenger, Marquis de Neustria, then Guy, Comte de Senlis, as his second wife.

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Carolingian Nobility:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#HeribertIdi...

PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850).

Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560].

Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561].

Comte near Paris after 834. He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562].

The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].

m ---. The name of Pépin's wife is not known.

Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin.

Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:

1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567]. "Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568].

2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575]. Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896.

4. [CUNEGUNDIS. Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].]

5. [daughter . [m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]).

The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. As explained below, one way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.]

m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage].

References:

[560] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[561] Rösch, S. (1977) Caroli Magni Progenies (Verlag Degener & Co, Neustadt an der Aisch), p. 86.

[562] Nithard, Historiarum libri IV, ed. P. Lauer (Paris, 1926), cited in Settipani (1993), p. 214.

[563] Annales Bertiniani I 834.

[564] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 215.

[565] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[566] Pocchetino, G. (1922), 'I Pipinidi in Italia (sec. VIII-XII)', Archivio storico Lombardo, 54 (1927), pp. 1-43, and Violante, C. (1974) 'Quelques caractéristiques des structures familiales en Lombardie, Emilie et Toscane aux XI et XII siècles', Famille et parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Rome), pp. 87-147, 128, both cited in Settipani (1993), p. 215.

[567] Settipani (1993), p. 215 footnote 177.

[568] Bourgeois, E. (1885) Le capitulaire de Kiersy-sur-Oise (Paris), p. 23.

[569] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[570] Settipani (1993), p. 215.

[571] D Karl 108, p. 172, headed "verunechtet" in the compilation.

[572] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.

[573] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[574] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 633.

[575] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.

[576] Settipani (1993), p. 217.

[577] Nécrologe du Mans, p. 329.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH NOBILITY.htm

PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

http://www.nationaalarchief.nl/toegangen/pdf/NL-HaNA_3.01.01.ead.pdf

Graaf Dirk I huwde Geva alias Gerberga, waarschijnlijk een dochter van Pepijn, graaf van Valois [6] , zelf afstammeling in rechte lijn van Karel de Grote.

From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_301.htm

Peppijn van Senlis (845 - 28 januari 893) was een zoon van Peppijn van Parijs. Samen met zijn broer Herbert, vertoefde Peppijn in de directe omgeving van Karel de Kale. Samen met Herbert en Fulco van Reims, verdreef Peppijn in 892 koning Odo van de troon en verhief hij in 893 Karel de Eenvoudige tot koning van West-Francië.

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

[edit] References

^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17

King Carloman (Pepin) of Italy took part in campaigns against Duke Tassilo III of Bavaria from 787 and led an army against the Avars in 796. His Venetian campagin (809-810) enabled Charlemagne later to come to favourable terms with the Byzantine Empire. As Early as 806 Charlamagne, in planning the division of his lands, had decided that on his death Pepin should inherit Italy, Bavaria, and the territory of the Alemanni, but Pepin predeceased his father by four years.

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne.

Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St.

Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl

der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court

of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when

he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who

tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

References: [Weis1]

References: [WallopFH],[RoyalAAF],[RFC]

From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_301.htm

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne. Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St. Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

References: [Weis1]

References: [WallopFH],[RoyalAAF],[RFC]

From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_301.htm

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne. Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St. Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

References: [Weis1]

References: [WallopFH],[RoyalAAF],[RFC]

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999

Note: Page: 50-16
Note: Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
Note: Page: 112
Note: Text: Pepin Comte de Vermandois

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

[edit] References

1.^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

2.^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

3.^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Living in italy until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the Emperor Lothar who went on a trip to stop Charles the Bald crossing the Seine.

Living in Italy until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the Emperor Lothar who trip to stop Charles the Bald crossing the Seine.

d. Aft. 850

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p308.htm#i5246 )

Pepin was the first Count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin--north of the Seine River in France--between 834 and 840. Pepin first appears in 834 as a Count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesized a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. She bore him 5 children, including our ancestors Herbert and Cunigundis.

Pepin died after 840.

Pepin was our ancestor through two distinct descent lines--through his son Herbert and his daughter Cunigundis, each of whom was independently our ancestor.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin_of_Vermandois for more information.

Also see "My Lines"

from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

http://larryvoyer.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I158270&tree...

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne.

Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St.

Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl

der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court

of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when

he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who

tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

Pepin

(born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

References

^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17

Occupation: Count of Perrone

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Péronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung.

Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Pepin I, Prince of Italy, Count of Vermandois

One of his daughters might be the mother of Poppa de Bayeux (see below)

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Pepindiedaf...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin,_Count_of_Vermandois

MEDIEVAL LANDS

PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850). Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560].

Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561]. Comte near Paris after 834. He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562]. The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].

m ---.

The name of Pépin's wife is not known. Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin.

Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:

1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567]. "Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568].

2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575]. Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896.

- COMTES de VERMANDOIS.

4. [CUNEGUNDIS. Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].]

5. [daughter .

[m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]). The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. As explained below, one way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.]

m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage]:

a) [BERNARD [II] ([880]-after 945). Comte de Senlis. Flodoard records that "Heribertus comes" sent "Bernardum consobrinum suum" against Charles III "le Simple" King of the Franks in 923[578]. He was instrumental in helping Richard Comte [de Normandie] escape from Louis IV King of the Franks, after the latter had taken him following the murder of his father in 942[579]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that Richard was taking to Senlis where "le comte Bernard" was concerned for "son neveu Richard"[580]. He was involved in negotiations for the betrothal in 945 of Richard I Comte [de Normandie] to Emma, daughter of Hugues Duc des Francs[581]. Flodoard names "Bernardus Silvanectis comes et Tetbaldus Turonensis cum Heriberto castellum regis" when recording that they attacked "Montiniacum" at Easter 945 during the rebellion against King Louis[582]. Hugo Floriacensis records that the king acted on bad advice from "Bernardi comitis Silvanectensis et alterius Bernardui Rothomagensis" which resulted in his defeat by "pagano Aygroldo regi Danorum" in 945[583].]

WIKIPEDIA

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Péronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung.

Their children were:

   * Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

* Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)
* Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)
* Cunigunda
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WIKIPEDIA (fr)

Pépin[1], né vers 815, mort après 840, était fils de Bernard, roi d'Italie et de Cunégonde.

Il est cité comme comte au nord de la Seine à partir de 834 et jusqu'en 840. Il soutint Lothaire Ier dans sa révolte contre son père Louis le Pieux, en 840.

Son épouse est inconnue, mais l'historien Karl Ferdinand Werner, constatant que son fils Herbert Ier a succédé à plusieurs Nibelungides, a émis l'hypothèse que l'épouse de Pépin soit membre de cette famille, et plus particulièrement fille de Théodoric Nibelung, qui est cité comme comte de Vermandois en 876.

En tout cas, Pépin a eu pour enfants :

   * Bernard, comte dans le Laonnois vers 877

* Pépin, comte au nord de Paris entre 877 et 893
* Herbert Ier (v.850 † 900/907), comte de Vermandois
* Cunégonde
* peut-être une fille qui aurait épousé Bérenger, marquis de Neustrie, puis Guy, comte de Senlis en secondes noces.
Source

   * Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4)

VERMANDOIS

4. PEPIN (II) DE PÉRONNE, FIRST COMTE DE VERMANDOIS, LORD ST. QUENTIN, b. 817 Vermandois, Normandy, France, d. 878 Milan, Italy, m. Rothaïde de Bobbio, b. 812, d. 858

Herbert (I) Comte de Vermandois, b. 840 Peronne, Italy, d. Nov 16, 902

Pepin (III) Count de Bretagne and later, Senlis, b. 844, d. after Jan 29, 893

Bernard Count de Senlis, (DE LAON), b. 845, d. Jan 29, 893

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_counts_of_Vermandois

Pepin (818 - after 854) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Péronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda of Laon.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, she has been spuriously called "Rothaide de Bobbio". His heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesized a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844 – after 893), count of Laon Gerberge (born c. 854) Pepin (c. 846–893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877–893) Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850–907) Beatrix (born c. 854) Mathilde (born c. 857) Adelaide (born c. 858) Cunigunda

source: wikipedia
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This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (August 2007) Pepin (818 - after 854) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Péronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda of Laon.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, she has been spuriously called "Rothaide de Bobbio". His heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesized a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844 – after 893), count of Laon Gerberge (born c. 854) Pepin (c. 846–893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877–893) Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850–907) Beatrix (born c. 854) Mathilde (born c. 857) Adelaide (born c. 858) Cunigunda

Categories: Herbertien dynastyFranksFrankish peopleCounts of Vermandois818 births

source: wikipedia

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/lape/pafg115....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin,_Count_of_Vermandois

He was Seigneur de Senlis, de Peronne and de Saint-Quentin, and a Lay Abbot. He was living in Italy until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the emperor Lothar who tried to stop Charles the Bald crossing the Seine. No text calls him Count of Vermandois; the family connection with Vermandois only starts with his son Héribert in 896.

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands page on Italy Kings (covering his birth family):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#_Toc2...

King Bernard & his wife had one son:

1. PEPIN ([815]-after 850). Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[646].

Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint Quentin[647]. Comte near Paris after 834.

---

References:

[635] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 22, MGH SS II, p. 596. [636] Einhard 19, p. 454. [637] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [638] Settipani, p. 211 footnote 142, which does not give the citation for the source. [639] Einhardi Annales 812, MGH SS, p. 199. [640] RFA 812 and 813, p. 95. [641] Annales Xantenses 817, MGH SS II, p. 224. [642] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 22 and 23, MGH SS II, p. 596. [643] Settipani (1993), pp. 212-3. [644] Settipani (1993), p. 213, citing Werner, K. F. 'Hludowicus Augustus: gouverner l'empire Chrétien - idées et réalités', Charlemagne's heir (1990), p. 32 footnote 103. [645] Settipani (1993), p. 213. According to Rösch (1977), p. 74, the origin of Cunigundis is unknown. [646] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [647] Rösch (1977), p. 86.

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands page on Frankish Nobility (covering his marriage):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Pepindiedaf...

PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850).

Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560].

Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561].

Comte near Paris after 834.

He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562].

The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].

m ---. The name of Pépin's wife is not known.

Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin. Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:

1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567]. "Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568]. 2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572]. 3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575]. Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896. 4. [CUNEGUNDIS.

Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].] 5. [daughter . [m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]).

The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. One way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.] m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage]. References:

[560] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [561] Rösch, p. 86. [562] Nithard, Historiarum libri IV, ed. P. Lauer (Paris, 1926), cited in Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 214. [563] Annales Bertiniani I 834. [564] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 215. [565] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [566] Pocchetino, G. (1922), 'I Pipinidi in Italia (sec. VIII-XII)', Archivio storico Lombardo, 54 (1927), pp. 1-43, and Violante, C. (1974) 'Quelques caractéristiques des structures familiales en Lombardie, Emilie et Toscane aux XI et XII siècles', Famille et parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Rome), pp. 87-147, 128, both cited in Settipani (1993), p. 215. [567] Settipani (1993), p. 215 footnote 177. [568] Bourgeois, E. (1885) Le capitulaire de Kiersy-sur-Oise (Paris), p. 23. [569] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [570] Settipani (1993), p. 215. [571] D Karl 108, p. 172, headed "verunechtet" in the compilation. [572] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605. [573] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [574] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 633. [575] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605. [576] Settipani (1993), p. 217. [577] Nécrologe du Mans, p. 329.

Pepin, Count of Vermandois

Parents: Bernardo, Rei d'Italia & Cunigundis

Spouse: Theoderic's daughter (du Vexin)

Children:

1. Bernard

2. Pepin II

3. Heribert

4. Cunigundis

5. daughter, married Berenger de Bayeux and Wido de Senlis

LINKS

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PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850). Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560]. Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561]. Comte near Paris after 834. He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562]. The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].

m ---. The name of Pépin's wife is not known. Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin.

Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:

1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567]. "Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568].

2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575]. Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896.

- COMTES de VERMANDOIS.

4. [CUNEGUNDIS. Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].]

5. [daughter .

[m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]). The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. As explained below, one way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.]

m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage]:

a) [BERNARD [II] ([880]-after 945). Comte de Senlis. Flodoard records that "Heribertus comes" sent "Bernardum consobrinum suum" against Charles III "le Simple" King of the Franks in 923[578]. He was instrumental in helping Richard Comte [de Normandie] escape from Louis IV King of the Franks, after the latter had taken him following the murder of his father in 942[579]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that Richard was taking to Senlis where "le comte Bernard" was concerned for "son neveu Richard"[580]. He was involved in negotiations for the betrothal in 945 of Richard I Comte [de Normandie] to Emma, daughter of Hugues Duc des Francs[581]. Flodoard names "Bernardus Silvanectis comes et Tetbaldus Turonensis cum Heriberto castellum regis" when recording that they attacked "Montiniacum" at Easter 945 during the rebellion against King Louis[582]. Hugo Floriacensis records that the king acted on bad advice from "Bernardi comitis Silvanectensis et alterius Bernardui Rothomagensis" which resulted in his defeat by "pagano Aygroldo regi Danorum" in 945[583].]

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WIKIPEDIA (Eng)

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis.

Vermandois

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vermandois was a French county, that appears in Merovingian period. In tenth century, it was organised around two chatellenies of St Quentin (Aisne) and Peronne (Somme). Pepin I of Vermandois, the earliest of its hereditary counts, was descended in direct male line from the emperor Charlemagne, most famous was his grandson Herbert II (902–943), a man absolutely devoid of scruples, considerably increased the territorial power of the house of Vermandois, and kept the lawful king of France, the unlucky Charles the Simple, prisoner for six years, Herbert II was son of Herbert I, lord of Péronne and St Quentin, who was killed in 902 by an assassin in the pay of Baldwin II, Count of Flanders. His successors, Albert I, Herbert III, Albert II, Otto and Herbert IV, were not so active.

In 1077, the last count male of the first house of Vermandois, Herbert IV, received the county of Valois in right of his wife. His son Otto the Insane was disinheredited by the council of the Barons of France and then he was lord of Saint-Simon in right of his wife, and the county was given to his sister Adela, whose first husband was Hugh the Great, the brother of King Philip I. Hugh was one of the leaders of the First Crusade, and died in 1102 at Tarsus in Cilicia. The eldest son of Hugh and Adela was count Raoul (Rudolph) I (c. 1120-1152), who married Alix of Guyenne, sister of the queen, Eleanor, and had by her three children: Raoul (Rudolph) II, the Leper (count from 1152-1167); Isabelle, who possessed from 1167 to 1183 the counties of Vermandois, Valois and Amiens conjointly with her husband, Philip of Alsace, count of Flanders; and Eleanor. By the terms of a treaty concluded in 1185 with the king, Philip Augustus, the count of Flanders kept the county of Vermandois until his death, in 1191. At this date, a new arrangement gave Eleanor (d. 1213) a life interest in the eastern part of Vermandois, together with the title of countess of St Quentin, and the king entered immediately into possession of Peronne and its dependencies.

Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne

M, #636, b. 817, d. 840

Last Edited=31 Oct 2004

Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne was born in 817. He was the son of Bernard, King of Italy and Kunigunda Cunegonde. He died in 840. Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne gained the title of Seigneur de Peronne. Child of Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne

-1. Heribert I, Comte de Vermandois+ b. c 850

Forrás / Source:

http://www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/010/010410.php

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

- Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

- Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

- Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

- Cunigunda

- Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin, Count of Vermandois

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin, Count of Vermandois

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

The family of Pépin .. and ..

[10410] .., Pépin (Bernard d'ITALIE & Cunégonde .. [10411]), comte, seigneur de Peronne et de Saint-Quentin

married , from .. (France) .., .. (..)

1) Héribert Ier, comte, seigneur de Peronne et de Saint-Quentin, died 902, married .. Bibliographie : Mémoires (Société généalogique canadienne-française)

"Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung."

Pepin II* DE VERMANDOIS (Lord of Peronne)

[295]

ABT 0817 - ABT 0840

TITLE: Lord of Peronne
BIRTH: ABT 0817, Vermandois,Neustria,France
DEATH: ABT 0840, Milan,Italy Father: Bernard,* King of ITALY

Mother: Kunigunde* DE TOULOUSSE

Family 1 : Perrone* DE VERMANDOIS

1. +Herbert I* DE VERMANDOIS 2. +Pip I* 3. +Bernard* DE SAINT LIZ 4. +Gerberge* DE SENLIS 5. +Berenger* DE BAYEUX 6. +Adelaide* DE VERMANDOIS 7. +Bernard* DE SENLIS

Pepin II* DE VERMANDOIS (Lord of Peronne)

[295]

ABT 0817 - ABT 0840

TITLE: Lord of Peronne
BIRTH: ABT 0817, Vermandois,Neustria,France
DEATH: ABT 0840, Milan,Italy Father: Bernard,* King of ITALY

Mother: Kunigunde* DE TOULOUSSE

Family 1 : Perrone* DE VERMANDOIS

1. +Herbert I* DE VERMANDOIS 2. +Pip I* 3. +Bernard* DE SAINT LIZ 4. +Gerberge* DE SENLIS 5. +Berenger* DE BAYEUX 6. +Adelaide* DE VERMANDOIS 7. +Bernard* DE SENLIS

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

From www.wikipedia.org at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin_of_Vermandois

ID: I28884 Name: Pepin Quentin II of Vermandois Given Name: Pepin Quentin Suffix: II of Vermandois Prefix: Count Sex: M Birth: ABT 0818 in of Vermandois, Neustria Death: AFT 0840 in Milan, , Italy Ancestral File #: 9G82-VT _UID: 2C348172DDBDD611BF694445535400002C24 1 Change Date: 1 Sep 2002 at 01:00:00 Father: Bernard of Italy b: 0797 in of Vermandois, Austrasia

Mother: Cunigunde of Italy b: ABT 0797 in France

Marriage 1 of Vermandois b: ABT 0820 in of France

Children

1. Has No Children Bernard of Senlis b: ABT 0844 in of Vermandois, Neustria 2. Has No Children Pepin II of Senlis b: ABT 0846 in of Vermandois, Neustria 3. Has Children Herbert I of Vermandois b: ABT 0848 in of Vermandois, Neustria Sources:

1. Title: #719

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon
Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)
Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)
Cunigunda
Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis References

1. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16 2. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16 3. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin,_Count_of_Vermandois

Pipin of Vermandois

Born: 818

Marriage: Unknown

Died: 878, Milan, Lombardia, Italy aged 60

Another name for Pipin was Pepin II. General Notes: The name of his wife is unknown. His children were:

- Herbert I of Vermandois;

- Bernard II (ca. 845 - after 893), Count of Laon;

- Pepin I (ca. 845-893), Count of of Senlis, senior of Valois;

- Adelheid, married Lambert of Spoleto, King of Italy.

Noted events in his life were: • He was a Count of Vermandois. and lord of Senlis , of Peronne and of Saint Quentin.

Pipin married.

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

From the French Wikipedia page on Pepin (Herbertien):

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9pin_(Herbertien)

Pépin[1], né vers 815, mort après 840, était fils de Bernard, roi d'Italie et de Cunégonde.

Il est cité comme comte au nord de la Seine à partir de 834 et jusqu'en 840. Il soutint Lothaire Ier dans sa révolte contre son père Louis le Pieux, en 840.

Son épouse est inconnue, mais l'historien Karl Ferdinand Werner, constatant que son fils Herbert Ier a succédé à plusieurs Nibelungides, a émis l'hypothèse que l'épouse de Pépin soit membre de cette famille, et plus particulièrement fille de Théodoric Nibelung, qui est cité comme comte de Vermandois en 876.

En tout cas, Pépin a eu pour enfants :

1. Bernard, comte dans le Laonnois vers 877

2. Pépin, comte au nord de Paris entre 877 et 893

3. Herbert Ier (v.850 † 900/907), comte de Vermandois

4. Cunégonde

5. peut-être une fille qui aurait épousé Bérenger, marquis de Neustrie, puis Guy, comte de Senlis en secondes noces.

Source

Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4)

Notes et références

1.↑ Pépin sur le site de la Fondation pour la généalogie médiévale

In English:

Pepin was born in 815 and died after 840. He was the son of Bernard, King of Italy, and Cunegonde.

He is cited as a Comte north of the Seine in 834 and again in 840. He supported Lothair I in his revolt against his father, Louis the Pious, in 840.

His wife is unknown, but historian Karl Ferdinand Werner notes that his son, Herbert I, inherited several Nibelungid lands, suggesting that the wife of Pepin is a member of this family, likely the daughter of Theodoric Nibelung, which was cited as the Comte de Vermandois in 876.

In any case, Pepin had several children:

1. Bernard, Comte de Laon, to 877.

2. Pepin, Comte de Paris and the north, between 877 and 893.

3. Herbert (c. 850 to 900/907), Comte de Vermandois

4. Cunegonde

5. Perhaps a daughter who married Berenger, Marquis de Neustria, then Guy, Comte de Senlis, as his second wife.

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Carolingian Nobility:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#HeribertIdi...

PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850).

Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560].

Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561].

Comte near Paris after 834. He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562].

The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].

m ---. The name of Pépin's wife is not known.

Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin.

Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:

1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567]. "Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568].

2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575]. Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896.

4. [CUNEGUNDIS. Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].]

5. [daughter . [m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]).

The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. As explained below, one way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.]

m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage].

References:

[560] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[561] Rösch, S. (1977) Caroli Magni Progenies (Verlag Degener & Co, Neustadt an der Aisch), p. 86.

[562] Nithard, Historiarum libri IV, ed. P. Lauer (Paris, 1926), cited in Settipani (1993), p. 214.

[563] Annales Bertiniani I 834.

[564] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 215.

[565] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[566] Pocchetino, G. (1922), 'I Pipinidi in Italia (sec. VIII-XII)', Archivio storico Lombardo, 54 (1927), pp. 1-43, and Violante, C. (1974) 'Quelques caractéristiques des structures familiales en Lombardie, Emilie et Toscane aux XI et XII siècles', Famille et parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Rome), pp. 87-147, 128, both cited in Settipani (1993), p. 215.

[567] Settipani (1993), p. 215 footnote 177.

[568] Bourgeois, E. (1885) Le capitulaire de Kiersy-sur-Oise (Paris), p. 23.

[569] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[570] Settipani (1993), p. 215.

[571] D Karl 108, p. 172, headed "verunechtet" in the compilation.

[572] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.

[573] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[574] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 633.

[575] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.

[576] Settipani (1993), p. 217.

[577] Nécrologe du Mans, p. 329.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH NOBILITY.htm

PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

http://www.nationaalarchief.nl/toegangen/pdf/NL-HaNA_3.01.01.ead.pdf

Graaf Dirk I huwde Geva alias Gerberga, waarschijnlijk een dochter van Pepijn, graaf van Valois [6] , zelf afstammeling in rechte lijn van Karel de Grote.

From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_301.htm

Peppijn van Senlis (845 - 28 januari 893) was een zoon van Peppijn van Parijs. Samen met zijn broer Herbert, vertoefde Peppijn in de directe omgeving van Karel de Kale. Samen met Herbert en Fulco van Reims, verdreef Peppijn in 892 koning Odo van de troon en verhief hij in 893 Karel de Eenvoudige tot koning van West-Francië.

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

[edit] References

^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17

King Carloman (Pepin) of Italy took part in campaigns against Duke Tassilo III of Bavaria from 787 and led an army against the Avars in 796. His Venetian campagin (809-810) enabled Charlemagne later to come to favourable terms with the Byzantine Empire. As Early as 806 Charlamagne, in planning the division of his lands, had decided that on his death Pepin should inherit Italy, Bavaria, and the territory of the Alemanni, but Pepin predeceased his father by four years.

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne.

Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St.

Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl

der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

References: [Weis1]

References: [WallopFH],[RoyalAAF],[RFC]

From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_301.htm

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne. Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St. Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

References: [Weis1]

References: [WallopFH],[RoyalAAF],[RFC]

From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_301.htm

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne. Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St. Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

References: [Weis1]

References: [WallopFH],[RoyalAAF],[RFC]

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999

Note: Page: 50-16 Note: Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968 Note: Page: 112 Note: Text: Pepin Comte de Vermandois

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

[edit] References

1.^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

2.^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

3.^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17

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Pepin, Count of Vermandois

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Living in italy until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the Emperor Lothar who went on a trip to stop Charles the Bald crossing the Seine.

Living in Italy until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the Emperor Lothar who trip to stop Charles the Bald crossing the Seine.

d. Aft. 850

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#_Toc2...

Pepin was the first Count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin--north of the Seine River in France--between 834 and 840. Pepin fir

About Pépin II, seigneur de Péronne (Français)

He was Seigneur de Senlis, de Peronne and de Saint-Quentin, and a Lay Abbot. He was living in Italy until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the emperor Lothar who tried to stop Charles the Bald crossing the Seine. No text calls him Count of Vermandois; the family connection with Vermandois only starts with his son Héribert in 896.

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands page on Italy Kings (covering his birth family):

King Bernard & his wife had one son:

1. PEPIN ([815]-after 850). Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[646].

Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint Quentin[647]. Comte near Paris after 834.

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References:

[635] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 22, MGH SS II, p. 596.
[636] Einhard 19, p. 454.
[637] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.
[638] Settipani, p. 211 footnote 142, which does not give the citation for the source.
[639] Einhardi Annales 812, MGH SS, p. 199.
[640] RFA 812 and 813, p. 95.
[641] Annales Xantenses 817, MGH SS II, p. 224.
[642] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 22 and 23, MGH SS II, p. 596.
[643] Settipani (1993), pp. 212-3.
[644] Settipani (1993), p. 213, citing Werner, K. F. 'Hludowicus Augustus: gouverner l'empire Chrétien - idées et réalités', Charlemagne's heir (1990), p. 32 footnote 103.
[645] Settipani (1993), p. 213. According to Rösch (1977), p. 74, the origin of Cunigundis is unknown.
[646] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.
[647] Rösch (1977), p. 86.

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands page on Frankish Nobility (covering his marriage):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Pepindiedaf...

PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850).

Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560].

Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561].

Comte near Paris after 834.

He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562].

The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].

m ---. The name of Pépin's wife is not known.

Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin.

Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:

1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567].
"Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568].

2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569].
At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris.
Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571].
Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574].
Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575].
Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896.

4. [CUNEGUNDIS.

Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].]

5. [daughter . [m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]).

The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. One way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.]
m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage].

References:

[560] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.
[561] Rösch, p. 86.
[562] Nithard, Historiarum libri IV, ed. P. Lauer (Paris, 1926), cited in Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 214.
[563] Annales Bertiniani I 834.
[564] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 215.
[565] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.
[566] Pocchetino, G. (1922), 'I Pipinidi in Italia (sec. VIII-XII)', Archivio storico Lombardo, 54 (1927), pp. 1-43, and Violante, C. (1974) 'Quelques caractéristiques des structures familiales en Lombardie, Emilie et Toscane aux XI et XII siècles', Famille et parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Rome), pp. 87-147, 128, both cited in Settipani (1993), p. 215.
[567] Settipani (1993), p. 215 footnote 177.
[568] Bourgeois, E. (1885) Le capitulaire de Kiersy-sur-Oise (Paris), p. 23.
[569] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.
[570] Settipani (1993), p. 215.
[571] D Karl 108, p. 172, headed "verunechtet" in the compilation.
[572] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.
[573] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.
[574] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 633.
[575] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.
[576] Settipani (1993), p. 217.
[577] Nécrologe du Mans, p. 329.

Pepin, Count of Vermandois

Parents: Bernardo, Rei d'Italia & Cunigundis

Spouse: Theoderic's daughter (du Vexin)

Children:

1. Bernard

2. Pepin II

3. Heribert

4. Cunigundis

5. daughter, married Berenger de Bayeux and Wido de Senlis

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PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850). Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560]. Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561]. Comte near Paris after 834. He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562]. The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].

m ---. The name of Pépin's wife is not known. Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin.

Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:

1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567]. "Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568].

2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575]. Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896.

- COMTES de VERMANDOIS.

4. [CUNEGUNDIS. Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].]

5. [daughter .

[m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]). The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. As explained below, one way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.]

m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage]:

a) [BERNARD [II] ([880]-after 945). Comte de Senlis. Flodoard records that "Heribertus comes" sent "Bernardum consobrinum suum" against Charles III "le Simple" King of the Franks in 923[578]. He was instrumental in helping Richard Comte [de Normandie] escape from Louis IV King of the Franks, after the latter had taken him following the murder of his father in 942[579]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that Richard was taking to Senlis where "le comte Bernard" was concerned for "son neveu Richard"[580]. He was involved in negotiations for the betrothal in 945 of Richard I Comte [de Normandie] to Emma, daughter of Hugues Duc des Francs[581]. Flodoard names "Bernardus Silvanectis comes et Tetbaldus Turonensis cum Heriberto castellum regis" when recording that they attacked "Montiniacum" at Easter 945 during the rebellion against King Louis[582]. Hugo Floriacensis records that the king acted on bad advice from "Bernardi comitis Silvanectensis et alterius Bernardui Rothomagensis" which resulted in his defeat by "pagano Aygroldo regi Danorum" in 945[583].]

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WIKIPEDIA (Eng)

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis.

Vermandois

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vermandois was a French county, that appears in Merovingian period. In tenth century, it was organised around two chatellenies of St Quentin (Aisne) and Peronne (Somme). Pepin I of Vermandois, the earliest of its hereditary counts, was descended in direct male line from the emperor Charlemagne, most famous was his grandson Herbert II (902–943), a man absolutely devoid of scruples, considerably increased the territorial power of the house of Vermandois, and kept the lawful king of France, the unlucky Charles the Simple, prisoner for six years, Herbert II was son of Herbert I, lord of Péronne and St Quentin, who was killed in 902 by an assassin in the pay of Baldwin II, Count of Flanders. His successors, Albert I, Herbert III, Albert II, Otto and Herbert IV, were not so active.

In 1077, the last count male of the first house of Vermandois, Herbert IV, received the county of Valois in right of his wife. His son Otto the Insane was disinheredited by the council of the Barons of France and then he was lord of Saint-Simon in right of his wife, and the county was given to his sister Adela, whose first husband was Hugh the Great, the brother of King Philip I. Hugh was one of the leaders of the First Crusade, and died in 1102 at Tarsus in Cilicia. The eldest son of Hugh and Adela was count Raoul (Rudolph) I (c. 1120-1152), who married Alix of Guyenne, sister of the queen, Eleanor, and had by her three children: Raoul (Rudolph) II, the Leper (count from 1152-1167); Isabelle, who possessed from 1167 to 1183 the counties of Vermandois, Valois and Amiens conjointly with her husband, Philip of Alsace, count of Flanders; and Eleanor. By the terms of a treaty concluded in 1185 with the king, Philip Augustus, the count of Flanders kept the county of Vermandois until his death, in 1191. At this date, a new arrangement gave Eleanor (d. 1213) a life interest in the eastern part of Vermandois, together with the title of countess of St Quentin, and the king entered immediately into possession of Peronne and its dependencies.

Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne

M, #636, b. 817, d. 840

Last Edited=31 Oct 2004

    Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne was born in 817. He was the son of Bernard, King of Italy and Kunigunda Cunegonde. He died in 840.

Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne gained the title of Seigneur de Peronne.
Child of Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne

-1. Heribert I, Comte de Vermandois+ b. c 850

Forrás / Source:

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Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

- Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

- Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

- Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

- Cunigunda

- Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin, Count of Vermandois

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin, Count of Vermandois

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

The family of Pépin .. and ..

[10410] .., Pépin (Bernard d'ITALIE & Cunégonde .. [10411]), comte, seigneur de Peronne et de Saint-Quentin

married , from .. (France)

.., .. (..)

     1) Héribert Ier, comte, seigneur de Peronne et de Saint-Quentin, died 902, married ..

Bibliographie : Mémoires (Société généalogique canadienne-française)

"Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung."

Pepin II* DE VERMANDOIS (Lord of Peronne)

[295]

ABT 0817 - ABT 0840

   * TITLE: Lord of Peronne

* BIRTH: ABT 0817, Vermandois,Neustria,France
* DEATH: ABT 0840, Milan,Italy
Father: Bernard,* King of ITALY

Mother: Kunigunde* DE TOULOUSSE

Family 1 : Perrone* DE VERMANDOIS

  1. +Herbert I* DE VERMANDOIS

2. +Pip I*
3. +Bernard* DE SAINT LIZ
4. +Gerberge* DE SENLIS
5. +Berenger* DE BAYEUX
6. +Adelaide* DE VERMANDOIS
7. +Bernard* DE SENLIS

Pepin II* DE VERMANDOIS (Lord of Peronne)

[295]

ABT 0817 - ABT 0840

   * TITLE: Lord of Peronne

* BIRTH: ABT 0817, Vermandois,Neustria,France
* DEATH: ABT 0840, Milan,Italy
Father: Bernard,* King of ITALY

Mother: Kunigunde* DE TOULOUSSE

Family 1 : Perrone* DE VERMANDOIS

  1. +Herbert I* DE VERMANDOIS

2. +Pip I*
3. +Bernard* DE SAINT LIZ
4. +Gerberge* DE SENLIS
5. +Berenger* DE BAYEUX
6. +Adelaide* DE VERMANDOIS
7. +Bernard* DE SENLIS

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

From www.wikipedia.org at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin_of_Vermandois

ID: I28884
Name: Pepin Quentin II of Vermandois
Given Name: Pepin Quentin
Suffix: II of Vermandois
Prefix: Count
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 0818 in of Vermandois, Neustria
Death: AFT 0840 in Milan, , Italy
Ancestral File #: 9G82-VT
_UID: 2C348172DDBDD611BF694445535400002C24 1
Change Date: 1 Sep 2002 at 01:00:00

Father: Bernard of Italy b: 0797 in of Vermandois, Austrasia

Mother: Cunigunde of Italy b: ABT 0797 in France

Marriage 1 of Vermandois b: ABT 0820 in of France

Children

  1. Has No Children Bernard of Senlis b: ABT 0844 in of Vermandois, Neustria

2. Has No Children Pepin II of Senlis b: ABT 0846 in of Vermandois, Neustria
3. Has Children Herbert I of Vermandois b: ABT 0848 in of Vermandois, Neustria
Sources:

  1. Title: #719

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

   * Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

* Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)
* Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)
* Cunigunda
* Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis
References

  1. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

2. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16
3. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin,_Count_of_Vermandois

Pipin of Vermandois

Born: 818

Marriage: Unknown

Died: 878, Milan, Lombardia, Italy aged 60

  Another name for Pipin was Pepin II.

General Notes:
The name of his wife is unknown. His children were:

- Herbert I of Vermandois;

- Bernard II (ca. 845 - after 893), Count of Laon;

- Pepin I (ca. 845-893), Count of of Senlis, senior of Valois;

- Adelheid, married Lambert of Spoleto, King of Italy.

 Noted events in his life were:

• He was a Count of Vermandois. and lord of Senlis , of Peronne and of Saint Quentin.

Pipin married.

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

From the French Wikipedia page on Pepin (Herbertien):

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9pin_(Herbertien)

Pépin[1], né vers 815, mort après 840, était fils de Bernard, roi d'Italie et de Cunégonde.

Il est cité comme comte au nord de la Seine à partir de 834 et jusqu'en 840. Il soutint Lothaire Ier dans sa révolte contre son père Louis le Pieux, en 840.

Son épouse est inconnue, mais l'historien Karl Ferdinand Werner, constatant que son fils Herbert Ier a succédé à plusieurs Nibelungides, a émis l'hypothèse que l'épouse de Pépin soit membre de cette famille, et plus particulièrement fille de Théodoric Nibelung, qui est cité comme comte de Vermandois en 876.

En tout cas, Pépin a eu pour enfants :

1. Bernard, comte dans le Laonnois vers 877

2. Pépin, comte au nord de Paris entre 877 et 893

3. Herbert Ier (v.850 † 900/907), comte de Vermandois

4. Cunégonde

5. peut-être une fille qui aurait épousé Bérenger, marquis de Neustrie, puis Guy, comte de Senlis en secondes noces.

Source

Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4)

Notes et références

1.↑ Pépin sur le site de la Fondation pour la généalogie médiévale

In English:

Pepin was born in 815 and died after 840. He was the son of Bernard, King of Italy, and Cunegonde.

He is cited as a Comte north of the Seine in 834 and again in 840. He supported Lothair I in his revolt against his father, Louis the Pious, in 840.

His wife is unknown, but historian Karl Ferdinand Werner notes that his son, Herbert I, inherited several Nibelungid lands, suggesting that the wife of Pepin is a member of this family, likely the daughter of Theodoric Nibelung, which was cited as the Comte de Vermandois in 876.

In any case, Pepin had several children:

1. Bernard, Comte de Laon, to 877.

2. Pepin, Comte de Paris and the north, between 877 and 893.

3. Herbert (c. 850 to 900/907), Comte de Vermandois

4. Cunegonde

5. Perhaps a daughter who married Berenger, Marquis de Neustria, then Guy, Comte de Senlis, as his second wife.

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Carolingian Nobility:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#HeribertIdi...

PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850).

Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560].

Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561].

Comte near Paris after 834. He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562].

The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].

m ---. The name of Pépin's wife is not known.

Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin.

Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:

1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567]. "Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568].

2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575]. Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896.

4. [CUNEGUNDIS. Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].]

5. [daughter . [m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]).

The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. As explained below, one way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.]

m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage].

References:

[560] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[561] Rösch, S. (1977) Caroli Magni Progenies (Verlag Degener & Co, Neustadt an der Aisch), p. 86.

[562] Nithard, Historiarum libri IV, ed. P. Lauer (Paris, 1926), cited in Settipani (1993), p. 214.

[563] Annales Bertiniani I 834.

[564] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 215.

[565] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[566] Pocchetino, G. (1922), 'I Pipinidi in Italia (sec. VIII-XII)', Archivio storico Lombardo, 54 (1927), pp. 1-43, and Violante, C. (1974) 'Quelques caractéristiques des structures familiales en Lombardie, Emilie et Toscane aux XI et XII siècles', Famille et parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Rome), pp. 87-147, 128, both cited in Settipani (1993), p. 215.

[567] Settipani (1993), p. 215 footnote 177.

[568] Bourgeois, E. (1885) Le capitulaire de Kiersy-sur-Oise (Paris), p. 23.

[569] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[570] Settipani (1993), p. 215.

[571] D Karl 108, p. 172, headed "verunechtet" in the compilation.

[572] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.

[573] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[574] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 633.

[575] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.

[576] Settipani (1993), p. 217.

[577] Nécrologe du Mans, p. 329.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH NOBILITY.htm

PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

http://www.nationaalarchief.nl/toegangen/pdf/NL-HaNA_3.01.01.ead.pdf

Graaf Dirk I huwde Geva alias Gerberga, waarschijnlijk een dochter van Pepijn, graaf van Valois [6] , zelf afstammeling in rechte lijn van Karel de Grote.

From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_301.htm

Peppijn van Senlis (845 - 28 januari 893) was een zoon van Peppijn van Parijs. Samen met zijn broer Herbert, vertoefde Peppijn in de directe omgeving van Karel de Kale. Samen met Herbert en Fulco van Reims, verdreef Peppijn in 892 koning Odo van de troon en verhief hij in 893 Karel de Eenvoudige tot koning van West-Francië.

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

[edit] References

^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17

King Carloman (Pepin) of Italy took part in campaigns against Duke Tassilo III of Bavaria from 787 and led an army against the Avars in 796. His Venetian campagin (809-810) enabled Charlemagne later to come to favourable terms with the Byzantine Empire. As Early as 806 Charlamagne, in planning the division of his lands, had decided that on his death Pepin should inherit Italy, Bavaria, and the territory of the Alemanni, but Pepin predeceased his father by four years.

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne.

Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St.

Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl

der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court

of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when

he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who

tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

References: [Weis1]

References: [WallopFH],[RoyalAAF],[RFC]

From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_301.htm

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne. Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St. Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

References: [Weis1]

References: [WallopFH],[RoyalAAF],[RFC]

From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_301.htm

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne. Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St. Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

References: [Weis1]

References: [WallopFH],[RoyalAAF],[RFC]

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999

Note: Page: 50-16
Note: Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
Note: Page: 112
Note: Text: Pepin Comte de Vermandois

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

[edit] References

1.^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

2.^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

3.^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17

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Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Living in italy until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the Emperor Lothar who went on a trip to stop Charles the Bald crossing the Seine.

Living in Italy until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the Emperor Lothar who trip to stop Charles the Bald crossing the Seine.

d. Aft. 850

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p308.htm#i5246 )

Pepin was the first Count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin--north of the Seine River in France--between 834 and 840. Pepin first appears in 834 as a Count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesized a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. She bore him 5 children, including our ancestors Herbert and Cunigundis.

Pepin died after 840.

Pepin was our ancestor through two distinct descent lines--through his son Herbert and his daughter Cunigundis, each of whom was independently our ancestor.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin_of_Vermandois for more information.

Also see "My Lines"

from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

http://larryvoyer.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I158270&tree...

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne.

Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St.

Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl

der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court

of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when

he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who

tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

Pepin

(born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

References

^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17

Occupation: Count of Perrone

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Péronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung.

Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Pepin I, Prince of Italy, Count of Vermandois

One of his daughters might be the mother of Poppa de Bayeux (see below)

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Pepindiedaf...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin,_Count_of_Vermandois

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PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850). Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560].

Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561]. Comte near Paris after 834. He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562]. The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].

m ---.

The name of Pépin's wife is not known. Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin.

Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:

1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567]. "Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568].

2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575]. Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896.

- COMTES de VERMANDOIS.

4. [CUNEGUNDIS. Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].]

5. [daughter .

[m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]). The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. As explained below, one way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.]

m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage]:

a) [BERNARD [II] ([880]-after 945). Comte de Senlis. Flodoard records that "Heribertus comes" sent "Bernardum consobrinum suum" against Charles III "le Simple" King of the Franks in 923[578]. He was instrumental in helping Richard Comte [de Normandie] escape from Louis IV King of the Franks, after the latter had taken him following the murder of his father in 942[579]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that Richard was taking to Senlis where "le comte Bernard" was concerned for "son neveu Richard"[580]. He was involved in negotiations for the betrothal in 945 of Richard I Comte [de Normandie] to Emma, daughter of Hugues Duc des Francs[581]. Flodoard names "Bernardus Silvanectis comes et Tetbaldus Turonensis cum Heriberto castellum regis" when recording that they attacked "Montiniacum" at Easter 945 during the rebellion against King Louis[582]. Hugo Floriacensis records that the king acted on bad advice from "Bernardi comitis Silvanectensis et alterius Bernardui Rothomagensis" which resulted in his defeat by "pagano Aygroldo regi Danorum" in 945[583].]

WIKIPEDIA

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Péronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung.

Their children were:

   * Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

* Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)
* Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)
* Cunigunda
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WIKIPEDIA (fr)

Pépin[1], né vers 815, mort après 840, était fils de Bernard, roi d'Italie et de Cunégonde.

Il est cité comme comte au nord de la Seine à partir de 834 et jusqu'en 840. Il soutint Lothaire Ier dans sa révolte contre son père Louis le Pieux, en 840.

Son épouse est inconnue, mais l'historien Karl Ferdinand Werner, constatant que son fils Herbert Ier a succédé à plusieurs Nibelungides, a émis l'hypothèse que l'épouse de Pépin soit membre de cette famille, et plus particulièrement fille de Théodoric Nibelung, qui est cité comme comte de Vermandois en 876.

En tout cas, Pépin a eu pour enfants :

   * Bernard, comte dans le Laonnois vers 877

* Pépin, comte au nord de Paris entre 877 et 893
* Herbert Ier (v.850 † 900/907), comte de Vermandois
* Cunégonde
* peut-être une fille qui aurait épousé Bérenger, marquis de Neustrie, puis Guy, comte de Senlis en secondes noces.
Source

   * Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4)

VERMANDOIS

4. PEPIN (II) DE PÉRONNE, FIRST COMTE DE VERMANDOIS, LORD ST. QUENTIN, b. 817 Vermandois, Normandy, France, d. 878 Milan, Italy, m. Rothaïde de Bobbio, b. 812, d. 858

Herbert (I) Comte de Vermandois, b. 840 Peronne, Italy, d. Nov 16, 902

Pepin (III) Count de Bretagne and later, Senlis, b. 844, d. after Jan 29, 893

Bernard Count de Senlis, (DE LAON), b. 845, d. Jan 29, 893

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_counts_of_Vermandois

Pepin (818 - after 854) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Péronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda of Laon.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, she has been spuriously called "Rothaide de Bobbio". His heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesized a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844 – after 893), count of Laon Gerberge (born c. 854) Pepin (c. 846–893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877–893) Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850–907) Beatrix (born c. 854) Mathilde (born c. 857) Adelaide (born c. 858) Cunigunda

source: wikipedia
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This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (August 2007) Pepin (818 - after 854) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Péronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda of Laon.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, she has been spuriously called "Rothaide de Bobbio". His heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesized a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844 – after 893), count of Laon Gerberge (born c. 854) Pepin (c. 846–893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877–893) Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850–907) Beatrix (born c. 854) Mathilde (born c. 857) Adelaide (born c. 858) Cunigunda

Categories: Herbertien dynastyFranksFrankish peopleCounts of Vermandois818 births

source: wikipedia

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/lape/pafg115....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin,_Count_of_Vermandois

He was Seigneur de Senlis, de Peronne and de Saint-Quentin, and a Lay Abbot. He was living in Italy until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the emperor Lothar who tried to stop Charles the Bald crossing the Seine. No text calls him Count of Vermandois; the family connection with Vermandois only starts with his son Héribert in 896.

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands page on Italy Kings (covering his birth family):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#_Toc2...

King Bernard & his wife had one son:

1. PEPIN ([815]-after 850). Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[646].

Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint Quentin[647]. Comte near Paris after 834.

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References:

[635] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 22, MGH SS II, p. 596. [636] Einhard 19, p. 454. [637] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [638] Settipani, p. 211 footnote 142, which does not give the citation for the source. [639] Einhardi Annales 812, MGH SS, p. 199. [640] RFA 812 and 813, p. 95. [641] Annales Xantenses 817, MGH SS II, p. 224. [642] Thegani Vita Hludowici Imperatoris 22 and 23, MGH SS II, p. 596. [643] Settipani (1993), pp. 212-3. [644] Settipani (1993), p. 213, citing Werner, K. F. 'Hludowicus Augustus: gouverner l'empire Chrétien - idées et réalités', Charlemagne's heir (1990), p. 32 footnote 103. [645] Settipani (1993), p. 213. According to Rösch (1977), p. 74, the origin of Cunigundis is unknown. [646] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [647] Rösch (1977), p. 86.

From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy Medlands page on Frankish Nobility (covering his marriage):

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Pepindiedaf...

PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850).

Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560].

Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561].

Comte near Paris after 834.

He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562].

The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].

m ---. The name of Pépin's wife is not known.

Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin. Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:

1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567]. "Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568]. 2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572]. 3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575]. Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896. 4. [CUNEGUNDIS.

Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].] 5. [daughter . [m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]).

The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. One way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.] m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage]. References:

[560] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [561] Rösch, p. 86. [562] Nithard, Historiarum libri IV, ed. P. Lauer (Paris, 1926), cited in Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 214. [563] Annales Bertiniani I 834. [564] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 215. [565] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [566] Pocchetino, G. (1922), 'I Pipinidi in Italia (sec. VIII-XII)', Archivio storico Lombardo, 54 (1927), pp. 1-43, and Violante, C. (1974) 'Quelques caractéristiques des structures familiales en Lombardie, Emilie et Toscane aux XI et XII siècles', Famille et parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Rome), pp. 87-147, 128, both cited in Settipani (1993), p. 215. [567] Settipani (1993), p. 215 footnote 177. [568] Bourgeois, E. (1885) Le capitulaire de Kiersy-sur-Oise (Paris), p. 23. [569] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [570] Settipani (1993), p. 215. [571] D Karl 108, p. 172, headed "verunechtet" in the compilation. [572] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605. [573] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567. [574] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 633. [575] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605. [576] Settipani (1993), p. 217. [577] Nécrologe du Mans, p. 329.

Pepin, Count of Vermandois

Parents: Bernardo, Rei d'Italia & Cunigundis

Spouse: Theoderic's daughter (du Vexin)

Children:

1. Bernard

2. Pepin II

3. Heribert

4. Cunigundis

5. daughter, married Berenger de Bayeux and Wido de Senlis

LINKS

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PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850). Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560]. Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561]. Comte near Paris after 834. He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562]. The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].

m ---. The name of Pépin's wife is not known. Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin.

Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:

1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567]. "Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568].

2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575]. Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896.

- COMTES de VERMANDOIS.

4. [CUNEGUNDIS. Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].]

5. [daughter .

[m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]). The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. As explained below, one way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.]

m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage]:

a) [BERNARD [II] ([880]-after 945). Comte de Senlis. Flodoard records that "Heribertus comes" sent "Bernardum consobrinum suum" against Charles III "le Simple" King of the Franks in 923[578]. He was instrumental in helping Richard Comte [de Normandie] escape from Louis IV King of the Franks, after the latter had taken him following the murder of his father in 942[579]. Guillaume de Jumièges records that Richard was taking to Senlis where "le comte Bernard" was concerned for "son neveu Richard"[580]. He was involved in negotiations for the betrothal in 945 of Richard I Comte [de Normandie] to Emma, daughter of Hugues Duc des Francs[581]. Flodoard names "Bernardus Silvanectis comes et Tetbaldus Turonensis cum Heriberto castellum regis" when recording that they attacked "Montiniacum" at Easter 945 during the rebellion against King Louis[582]. Hugo Floriacensis records that the king acted on bad advice from "Bernardi comitis Silvanectensis et alterius Bernardui Rothomagensis" which resulted in his defeat by "pagano Aygroldo regi Danorum" in 945[583].]

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WIKIPEDIA (Eng)

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis.

Vermandois

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vermandois was a French county, that appears in Merovingian period. In tenth century, it was organised around two chatellenies of St Quentin (Aisne) and Peronne (Somme). Pepin I of Vermandois, the earliest of its hereditary counts, was descended in direct male line from the emperor Charlemagne, most famous was his grandson Herbert II (902–943), a man absolutely devoid of scruples, considerably increased the territorial power of the house of Vermandois, and kept the lawful king of France, the unlucky Charles the Simple, prisoner for six years, Herbert II was son of Herbert I, lord of Péronne and St Quentin, who was killed in 902 by an assassin in the pay of Baldwin II, Count of Flanders. His successors, Albert I, Herbert III, Albert II, Otto and Herbert IV, were not so active.

In 1077, the last count male of the first house of Vermandois, Herbert IV, received the county of Valois in right of his wife. His son Otto the Insane was disinheredited by the council of the Barons of France and then he was lord of Saint-Simon in right of his wife, and the county was given to his sister Adela, whose first husband was Hugh the Great, the brother of King Philip I. Hugh was one of the leaders of the First Crusade, and died in 1102 at Tarsus in Cilicia. The eldest son of Hugh and Adela was count Raoul (Rudolph) I (c. 1120-1152), who married Alix of Guyenne, sister of the queen, Eleanor, and had by her three children: Raoul (Rudolph) II, the Leper (count from 1152-1167); Isabelle, who possessed from 1167 to 1183 the counties of Vermandois, Valois and Amiens conjointly with her husband, Philip of Alsace, count of Flanders; and Eleanor. By the terms of a treaty concluded in 1185 with the king, Philip Augustus, the count of Flanders kept the county of Vermandois until his death, in 1191. At this date, a new arrangement gave Eleanor (d. 1213) a life interest in the eastern part of Vermandois, together with the title of countess of St Quentin, and the king entered immediately into possession of Peronne and its dependencies.

Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne

M, #636, b. 817, d. 840

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Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne was born in 817. He was the son of Bernard, King of Italy and Kunigunda Cunegonde. He died in 840. Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne gained the title of Seigneur de Peronne. Child of Pepin II, Seigneur de Peronne

-1. Heribert I, Comte de Vermandois+ b. c 850

Forrás / Source:

http://www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/010/010410.php

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

- Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

- Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

- Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

- Cunigunda

- Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin, Count of Vermandois

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin, Count of Vermandois

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

The family of Pépin .. and ..

[10410] .., Pépin (Bernard d'ITALIE & Cunégonde .. [10411]), comte, seigneur de Peronne et de Saint-Quentin

married , from .. (France) .., .. (..)

1) Héribert Ier, comte, seigneur de Peronne et de Saint-Quentin, died 902, married .. Bibliographie : Mémoires (Société généalogique canadienne-française)

"Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung."

Pepin II* DE VERMANDOIS (Lord of Peronne)

[295]

ABT 0817 - ABT 0840

TITLE: Lord of Peronne
BIRTH: ABT 0817, Vermandois,Neustria,France
DEATH: ABT 0840, Milan,Italy Father: Bernard,* King of ITALY

Mother: Kunigunde* DE TOULOUSSE

Family 1 : Perrone* DE VERMANDOIS

1. +Herbert I* DE VERMANDOIS 2. +Pip I* 3. +Bernard* DE SAINT LIZ 4. +Gerberge* DE SENLIS 5. +Berenger* DE BAYEUX 6. +Adelaide* DE VERMANDOIS 7. +Bernard* DE SENLIS

Pepin II* DE VERMANDOIS (Lord of Peronne)

[295]

ABT 0817 - ABT 0840

TITLE: Lord of Peronne
BIRTH: ABT 0817, Vermandois,Neustria,France
DEATH: ABT 0840, Milan,Italy Father: Bernard,* King of ITALY

Mother: Kunigunde* DE TOULOUSSE

Family 1 : Perrone* DE VERMANDOIS

1. +Herbert I* DE VERMANDOIS 2. +Pip I* 3. +Bernard* DE SAINT LIZ 4. +Gerberge* DE SENLIS 5. +Berenger* DE BAYEUX 6. +Adelaide* DE VERMANDOIS 7. +Bernard* DE SENLIS

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

From www.wikipedia.org at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin_of_Vermandois

ID: I28884 Name: Pepin Quentin II of Vermandois Given Name: Pepin Quentin Suffix: II of Vermandois Prefix: Count Sex: M Birth: ABT 0818 in of Vermandois, Neustria Death: AFT 0840 in Milan, , Italy Ancestral File #: 9G82-VT _UID: 2C348172DDBDD611BF694445535400002C24 1 Change Date: 1 Sep 2002 at 01:00:00 Father: Bernard of Italy b: 0797 in of Vermandois, Austrasia

Mother: Cunigunde of Italy b: ABT 0797 in France

Marriage 1 of Vermandois b: ABT 0820 in of France

Children

1. Has No Children Bernard of Senlis b: ABT 0844 in of Vermandois, Neustria 2. Has No Children Pepin II of Senlis b: ABT 0846 in of Vermandois, Neustria 3. Has Children Herbert I of Vermandois b: ABT 0848 in of Vermandois, Neustria Sources:

1. Title: #719

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon
Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)
Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)
Cunigunda
Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis References

1. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16 2. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16 3. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepin,_Count_of_Vermandois

Pipin of Vermandois

Born: 818

Marriage: Unknown

Died: 878, Milan, Lombardia, Italy aged 60

Another name for Pipin was Pepin II. General Notes: The name of his wife is unknown. His children were:

- Herbert I of Vermandois;

- Bernard II (ca. 845 - after 893), Count of Laon;

- Pepin I (ca. 845-893), Count of of Senlis, senior of Valois;

- Adelheid, married Lambert of Spoleto, King of Italy.

Noted events in his life were: • He was a Count of Vermandois. and lord of Senlis , of Peronne and of Saint Quentin.

Pipin married.

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

From the French Wikipedia page on Pepin (Herbertien):

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9pin_(Herbertien)

Pépin[1], né vers 815, mort après 840, était fils de Bernard, roi d'Italie et de Cunégonde.

Il est cité comme comte au nord de la Seine à partir de 834 et jusqu'en 840. Il soutint Lothaire Ier dans sa révolte contre son père Louis le Pieux, en 840.

Son épouse est inconnue, mais l'historien Karl Ferdinand Werner, constatant que son fils Herbert Ier a succédé à plusieurs Nibelungides, a émis l'hypothèse que l'épouse de Pépin soit membre de cette famille, et plus particulièrement fille de Théodoric Nibelung, qui est cité comme comte de Vermandois en 876.

En tout cas, Pépin a eu pour enfants :

1. Bernard, comte dans le Laonnois vers 877

2. Pépin, comte au nord de Paris entre 877 et 893

3. Herbert Ier (v.850 † 900/907), comte de Vermandois

4. Cunégonde

5. peut-être une fille qui aurait épousé Bérenger, marquis de Neustrie, puis Guy, comte de Senlis en secondes noces.

Source

Christian Settipani, La Préhistoire des Capétiens (Nouvelle histoire généalogique de l'auguste maison de France, vol. 1), éd. Patrick van Kerrebrouck, 1993 (ISBN 2-9501509-3-4)

Notes et références

1.↑ Pépin sur le site de la Fondation pour la généalogie médiévale

In English:

Pepin was born in 815 and died after 840. He was the son of Bernard, King of Italy, and Cunegonde.

He is cited as a Comte north of the Seine in 834 and again in 840. He supported Lothair I in his revolt against his father, Louis the Pious, in 840.

His wife is unknown, but historian Karl Ferdinand Werner notes that his son, Herbert I, inherited several Nibelungid lands, suggesting that the wife of Pepin is a member of this family, likely the daughter of Theodoric Nibelung, which was cited as the Comte de Vermandois in 876.

In any case, Pepin had several children:

1. Bernard, Comte de Laon, to 877.

2. Pepin, Comte de Paris and the north, between 877 and 893.

3. Herbert (c. 850 to 900/907), Comte de Vermandois

4. Cunegonde

5. Perhaps a daughter who married Berenger, Marquis de Neustria, then Guy, Comte de Senlis, as his second wife.

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From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Carolingian Nobility:

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH%20NOBILITY.htm#HeribertIdi...

PEPIN [I], son of BERNARD I King of Italy [Carolingian] & his wife Cunegundis --- ([815]-after 850).

Regino names "Pippinum" son of "Bernhardus filius Pippin rex Italiæ"[560].

Seigneur de Péronne et de Saint-Quentin[561].

Comte near Paris after 834. He supported Emperor Lothaire after the death of Emperor Louis I "le Pieux", despite having sworn allegiance to Charles II "le Chauve"[562].

The Annales Bertiniani name "Ratholdus…episcopus, Bonifacius comes, Pippinus consanguineus imperatoris" as supporters of Emperor Louis I in 834[563].

m ---. The name of Pépin's wife is not known.

Settipani suggests[564] that the wife of Comte Pépin was --- [du Vexin], daughter of THEODERIC, son of NIBELUNG Comte du Vexin, bearing in mind that Pépin's descendants inherited estates in the Vexin.

Comte Pépin & his wife had five children:

1. BERNARD [I] ([845]-[before 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[565]. According to Italian authors[566], Bernard went to Italy and was the ancestor of the Bernardhengi. Settipani is sceptical about this, particularly as the names Pepin and Heribert are not found among the alleged descendants. He suggests that comte Bernard may be the same Bernard recorded as one of the executors of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks in 877[567]. "Adelelm et Bernard comtes de la region du Laonnais" donated property to Sainte-Marie de Laon as executors of the testament of Charles II "le Chauve" King of the Franks[568].

2. PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

3. HERIBERT ([850]-killed [900/6 Nov 907]).

Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum", specifying that Heribert killed "Rodulfum comitem filium Balduini comitis"[573]. "Heribertus, Bernhardi frater" is named in the Vita Hludowicis Imperatoris[574]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[575]. Heribert became Comte de Vermandois in 896.

4. [CUNEGUNDIS. Cunegundis was cited in a list of relations of comte Odo, son-in-law of Héribert I Comte de Vermandois, without any indication of how she may have been related to the family[576].]

5. [daughter . [m firstly BERENGER Comte [de Bayeux], son of --- (-13 Dec [892 or after]).

The necrology of Le Mans Cathedral records the death "Id Dec" of "Beringerius comes"[577]. As explained below, one way of reconciling the apparently contradictory sources which recount the origin of Poppa, wife of Rollo of Normandy, is that her mother married firstly Berengar Comte de Bayeux and secondly Guy Comte de Senlis. There is no proof that this is correct.]

m [secondly] WIDO [Guy] Comte de Senlis , son of ---. [One possible child] [of second marriage].

References:

[560] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[561] Rösch, S. (1977) Caroli Magni Progenies (Verlag Degener & Co, Neustadt an der Aisch), p. 86.

[562] Nithard, Historiarum libri IV, ed. P. Lauer (Paris, 1926), cited in Settipani (1993), p. 214.

[563] Annales Bertiniani I 834.

[564] Settipani, C. and Kerrebrouck, P. van (1993) La préhistoire des Capétiens 481-987, 1ère partie, Mérovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens (Villeneuve d'Ascq), p. 215.

[565] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[566] Pocchetino, G. (1922), 'I Pipinidi in Italia (sec. VIII-XII)', Archivio storico Lombardo, 54 (1927), pp. 1-43, and Violante, C. (1974) 'Quelques caractéristiques des structures familiales en Lombardie, Emilie et Toscane aux XI et XII siècles', Famille et parenté dans l'Occident medieval (Rome), pp. 87-147, 128, both cited in Settipani (1993), p. 215.

[567] Settipani (1993), p. 215 footnote 177.

[568] Bourgeois, E. (1885) Le capitulaire de Kiersy-sur-Oise (Paris), p. 23.

[569] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[570] Settipani (1993), p. 215.

[571] D Karl 108, p. 172, headed "verunechtet" in the compilation.

[572] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.

[573] Reginonis Chronicon 818, MGH SS I, p. 567.

[574] Vita Hludowici Imperatoris, MGH SS II, p. 633.

[575] Reginonis Chronicon 892, MGH SS I, p. 605.

[576] Settipani (1993), p. 217.

[577] Nécrologe du Mans, p. 329.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANKISH NOBILITY.htm

PEPIN [II] ([845]-after 28 Jan 893]). Regino names (in order) "Bernardum, Pippinum et Heribertum" as the three children of "Pippinum"[569]. At the court of Emperor Charles “le Chauve” in 877[570], thereafter Comte to the north of Paris. Emperor Karl III confirmed a grant of property including "villamque in Pipenensi comitatatu quæ Nogenlis dicitur" to the church of Grandval by charter dated 20 Sep 884[571]. Regino names "Folcone episcopo, Heriberto et Pippino comitibus in Remorum civitate" when recording that they supported the accession of Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in 892 in opposition to King Eudes, but does not specify the relationship between Heribert and Pepin[572].

http://www.nationaalarchief.nl/toegangen/pdf/NL-HaNA_3.01.01.ead.pdf

Graaf Dirk I huwde Geva alias Gerberga, waarschijnlijk een dochter van Pepijn, graaf van Valois [6] , zelf afstammeling in rechte lijn van Karel de Grote.

From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_301.htm

Peppijn van Senlis (845 - 28 januari 893) was een zoon van Peppijn van Parijs. Samen met zijn broer Herbert, vertoefde Peppijn in de directe omgeving van Karel de Kale. Samen met Herbert en Fulco van Reims, verdreef Peppijn in 892 koning Odo van de troon en verhief hij in 893 Karel de Eenvoudige tot koning van West-Francië.

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

[edit] References

^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17

King Carloman (Pepin) of Italy took part in campaigns against Duke Tassilo III of Bavaria from 787 and led an army against the Avars in 796. His Venetian campagin (809-810) enabled Charlemagne later to come to favourable terms with the Byzantine Empire. As Early as 806 Charlamagne, in planning the division of his lands, had decided that on his death Pepin should inherit Italy, Bavaria, and the territory of the Alemanni, but Pepin predeceased his father by four years.

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne.

Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St.

Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl

der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

References: [Weis1]

References: [WallopFH],[RoyalAAF],[RFC]

From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_301.htm

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne. Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St. Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

References: [Weis1]

References: [WallopFH],[RoyalAAF],[RFC]

From http://www.rpi.edu/~holmes/Hobbies/Genealogy/ps04/ps04_301.htm

Pepin (II) of Vermandois, Seigner of St. Quentin and Peronne. Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (50:16). Count of Senlis, Peronne, and St. Quentin.

From K.Werner's Die Nachkommen der Karl der Grosse, in volume IV, Karl der Grosee, ed W.Braunfels, 1965:

"He was living in Italy in until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the EMPEROR LOTHAR (RIN 1226) who tried to stop CHARLES THE BALD (RIN 1620) crossing the Seine."

References: [Weis1]

References: [WallopFH],[RoyalAAF],[RFC]

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde de Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999

Note: Page: 50-16 Note: Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968 Note: Page: 112 Note: Text: Pepin Comte de Vermandois

Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin.[1] He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda. [2]

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois[3] (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

[edit] References

1.^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

2.^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16

3.^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, Created by Frederick Lewis Weis, Continued by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., 8th Edition, 2004, Published by Genealogical Publishing, 50:16, 50:17

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Pepin (born c. 815) was the first count of Vermandois, lord of Senlis, Peronne, and Saint Quentin. He was the son of King Bernard of Italy and Cunigunda.

Pepin first appears in 834 as a count to the north of the Seine and then appears as same again in 840. In that year, he supported Lothair I against Louis the Pious.

Pepin's wife is unknown, but his heir inherited much Nibelungid territory and so historian K. F. Werner hypothesised a marriage to a daughter of Theodoric Nibelung. Their children were:

Bernard (c. 844-after 893), count of Laon

Pepin (c. 846-893), count of Senlis and lord of Valois (877-893)

Herbert I of Vermandois (c. 850-907)

Cunigunda

Gunhilde De Vermandois who married first the Margrave Berengar I of Neustria and then Count Guy of Senlis

Living in italy until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the Emperor Lothar who went on a trip to stop Charles the Bald crossing the Seine.

Living in Italy until 834 when he went to France to the court of Louis the Pious. In 840 he was a count in the Paris area, perhaps when he was among those men faithful to the Emperor Lothar who trip to stop Charles the Bald crossing the Seine.

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