Milon II, comte de Tonnerre

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Milon II, comte de Tonnerre

Also Known As: "comes pagi Tornodorensis"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Tonnerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France
Death: between circa July 980 and circa 992 (36-90)
Tonnerre, France
Immediate Family:

Son of Milon I and Adalgardis de Maers
Husband of Engeltrude de Brienne
Father of Letgarde and Guy de Tonnerre
Brother of Adehar and Quilto

Occupation: Comte de Tonnerre
Managed by: Dr. R. Owen Wyant, (PhD)
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About Milon II, comte de Tonnerre

MILO [II], son of MILON [I] & his wife Adalgardis --- ([910/35]-[Jul 980/[992]). "Milone filiis meis" consented to the donation of Adalgardis dated 950[21]. His birth date range is estimated for the purposes of assessing the number of generations between Milon [II] and Milon [V], as explained further below. "…Adelæ comitissæ, Milonis comitis filii eius" subscribed the charter dated 8 Sep 975 under which "Adelelmus miles" donated property to Saint-Benoît-sur-Loire for the souls of "genitore meo Rotberto et genitrice mea Bertha et…Burcardo"[22]. Comte de Tonnerre. “Milo comes pagi Tornodorensis…et Ingeltrudis uxoris suæ” restored the monastery of Saint-Michel, naming property "in pago Brionense in villa Jasant" half of which was donated immediately and the other half "post excessum Ingeltrudis uxoris suæ", by charter dated Jul 980, signed by "Richardi comitis, Milonis"[23]. A charter dated to [992] records that “comite Milone pagum Tornodorensem” had retired to the monastery of Saint-Michel de Tonnerre[24]. An undated charter records that "Milo quondam comes" donated property "in villa…Jassant" to Saint-Michel, property claimed after his death by "comes Ingelbertus", witnessed by "…Witerius vicecomes…"[25].

m INGELTRUDE, daughter of ---. “Milo comes pagi Tornodorensis…et Ingeltrudis uxoris suæ” restored the monastery of Saint-Michel, naming property "in pago Brionense in villa Jasant" half of which was donated immediately and the other half "post excessum Ingeltrudis uxoris suæ", by charter dated Jul 980, signed by "Richardi comitis, Milonis"[26]. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[27], she was Ingeltrude de Brienne, possible daughter of Engelbert [I] de Brienne, but the basis for this speculation has not been found. It is possible that it is based on the location of the property donated in the Jul 980 charter quoted above. The correctness of the speculation appears confirmed by an undated charter which records that "Milo quondam comes" donated property "in villa…Jassant" to Saint-Michel, and that the property was claimed after his death by "comes Ingelbertus" (presumably either Engelbert [II] or Engelbert [III] Comte de Brienne)[28].

Milon [II] & his wife had [two] children:

1. GUY de Tonnerre ([935/60]-). His parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 29 Sep 1046 in which Milon [V] Comte de Tonnerre names some of his paternal ancestors “Milo atavus meus…Wuydo proavus meus…Milo pater meus…” (see further details below)[29]. The difficulty with this is the absence of "abavus" and “avus” from the series of ancestors. Bouchard suggests that the charter should be interpreted as indicating that Guy was the son of Milon [II][30]. This is probably correct, as shown by the following assessment of the chronology of the family. It is assumed that Milon [II] is identified as the “atavus” because of his mention in the document as founder of the monastery. It is likely that Milon [II] died during the 980s, as shown above, which would place his birth within the wide range of [910/40]. If this is correct, and if the birth date range of Milon [V] is correctly estimated as shown below, Milon [V] would most likely have been in the fourth succeeding generation, and therefore the great-grandson of Milon [II]. The chronology therefore indicates that neither “atavus” nor “proavus” should be interpreted in this document with their traditional meanings of great-great-great grandfather and great grandfather. m ---. The name of Guy's wife is not known. ...

2. [LETGARDE (-after 1016). "Leotgarda comitissa…ac filii mei Rogerii" donated "terram…in villa…Jassant" to Saint-Michel by charter dated to [1005], signed by "Rogerius comes, Richardus, Rainardus comes, Alberic, Erembertus vicecomes, Milo…"[34]. Ernest Petit highlights that the same property was named in the charter dated Jul 980 in the name of Milon [II] Comte de Tonnerre and his wife Ingeltrude, and suggests therefore that Letgarde must have been their descendant[35]. Europäische Stammtafeln[36] shows Letgarde as the daughter of "Wido proavus Milonis comitis", the latter referring presumably to the 1046 charter of Comte Milon [V]. However, the chronology appears to favour her being the daughter of Milon [II]. The Chronicle of St Bénigne de Dijon records a donation of "ecclesiam…in villa Islo-super-Mosam fluvium in comitatu Bassignacensi" by "matrona…Letgardis…soror Lamberti episcopi" [probably Bishop of Langres], undated but among other records of donations in the late 1020s[37]. Ernest Petit suggests that "soror" could be interpreted in this document as meaning sister-in-law as well as sister[38]. m RICHARD Comte de Bassigny, de Bologne, de Vigory et d'Andelot, son of --- (-before 1005).]

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Milon II, comte de Tonnerre's Timeline

910
910
Tonnerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France
935
935
Tonnerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France
980
July 980
Age 70
Tonnerre, France
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