About the Keeling-Gouldman-Golden family relationship

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IMPORTANT NOTE: Thomas Gouldman is NOT the son of Leonard Keeling. This was an entry made by me some years ago based info then available. WHY CONNECTION NOT CHANGED? Have tried to correct this error in GENI but the 'Remove Relationship' button seems to be dysfunctional.

The Gouldmans and Keelings (via Edward Keeling, not related to Prince Anne County Keelings) did have some sort of familial relationship --- but it was not as parent and child.

As of 2022, there is significant new information pointing to the Gouldmans coming from the Gouldman family of Kent, England.

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There is no easy explanation for how Keelings became Gouldmans and then very quickly became Goulden (only one known line, my own) and then were Goldens by the late 1700s.

There is certainly not a shred of known documentation to show that Gouldmans were ever Keelings, or that Thomas Keeling, Virginia Burgess, chose to become known as Thomas Gouldman in the very early 1660s.

--- On the other hand,a very prominent Gouldman family historian from the Winston family notes there is no evidence that Gouldmans ever came to Virginia ... they just appeared.

Evidence does exist of an extremely close familial and professional relationship interwoven between the two families. See http://wdgolden.com/genes/all-goldens-your-goldens/gouldmans-and-ke...

What caused the change in name? We probably will never know. My belief is that Welsh patronymics played a role -- especially considering Thomas Gouldman was prominent in Virginia politics, and there were no shortage of Thomas Keelings.

Leonard Keeling

Thomas Keeling, who orginally arrived in Virginia 1628, would later return to the UK before arriving back in Virginia in 1635 or 1636. Along with bringing a new bride, it appears that he brought a brother or first cousin with him: George Keeling, sometimes referred to as Leonard Keeling.

Both a George and a Leonard are listed as arriving in Virginia or Maryland in 1636 per Peter Coldham -- but only one passenger is referenced. There was no clear delineation between the two (MD and VA) at the time. It would appear that George/Leonard Keeling continued on to what was then Rappahanock County (now reterred to as Old Rappahanock County). He would become known just as Leonard Keeling. Probable son Captain/Sheriff George Keeling would name a son 'Leonard'.

DNA

yDNA (male-to-male inherited DNA) also tells a story.

Our Golden line, based upon nine (9) YDNA tests, are an exact match for the Keeling male line.

No known Gouldman male has taken a yDNA test --- but I would be willing to provide one free of charge. The only criteria for the free yDNA test is that the male Gouldman must be the son of a male Gouldman with indications that their line formed in Virginia before 1800. Would be glad to help research that!

atDNA tells its own story, pointing very strongly to our Goldens and the line of Captain George Keeling, probable brother to Thomas Gouldman, being very closely related.

--- Four of our Golden lines that split before 1800 and the Captain George Keeling line have so many DNA matches that it would easy to suspect that he was actually our grandfather of the era.

--- atDNA provides plenty of connection back to a specific Gouldman line, Edward Gouldman aft.1660-abt 10 Jan 1710. Edward was son of Thomas Gouldman. Playing an important role in using atDNA to connect with the Gouldmans are the many DNA matches with the Awbrey, Hoskins, Meador and Tomlin families --- all which were either wife, mother or grandmother to Thomas and son Edward Gouldman.

Got info or questions?

Bill Golden
Norfolk1956@gmail.com

GEDCOM Note

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UPD

: UPD 19 SEP 2009 16:16:58 GMT-6

Sources

: Source: #S75 :: Page: Leonard Keeling :: Event: Smart Matching ::: Role: 11002752 :: Data: ::: Date: 19 SEP 2009 ::: Text: Added by confirming a Smart Match :: Quality or Certainty of Data: 3

: Source S75 : Record ID Number: MH:S75 : User ID: 281EC3C0-FC86-4E77-9899-019733FF4FB5 : Author: Michael Scott Nichols : Title: Nichols Web Site : Text: MyHeritage.com family tree :: Family site: Nichols Web Site :: Family tree: NICHOLS : Media: 588733-11 : Type: Smart Matching This person was created through the import of Holmes.ged on 20 May 2011. The following data was included in the gedcom. You may wish to edit it for readability.

• Virginia, Select Marriages, 1785-1940 Ancestry.com : Ancestry Family Trees, Ancestry Family Trees Ancestry.com : The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "Pedigree Resource File," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3C1Y-MGQ : accessed 2017-10-02), entry for Leonard /Keeling/.