Lady Jane Etchingham

Jane FITZALAN

Also known as Joan FitzAlan

• Died: 1 Sep 1404/1407
• Father: John FITZALAN (1° B. Maltravers)
• Mother: Eleanor MALTRAVERS (B. Maltravers/B. Cobham)

Spouse

• Married (1) William De BRYAN (Sir) son of Guy de Brienne, 1st Baron of Bryan, KG and Elizabeth De Montagu
• Married (2) William De ECHYNGHAM son of Sir William de Etchingham and Elizabeth de Criol

Children William De BRYAN (Sir)

• 1. Thomas BRYAN (Sir)

Children with William De ECHYNGHAM

• 2. Thomas De ECHYNGHAM
• 3. Elizabeth De ECHYNGHAM (m. Thomas Hoo, 1° B. Hoo)

Source The Tudor Place - http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/FITZALAN.htm#Jane FITZALAN2

Sources

http://www.thepeerage.com/p17994.htm

Last Edited=30 Mar 2008

Joan Fitzalan was the daughter of John Fitzalan and Eleanor Maltravers.2 She married Sir William de Bryan, son of Sir Guy de Bryan, 1st and last Lord Bryan and Elizabeth Montagu.1 She died after 1395.1

    Her married name became de Bryan.1

Citations

[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume II, page 362. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.

[S2715] Charlotte Smith, "re: Bryan Family," e-mail message from unknown author e-mail (unknown address) to Darryl Roger Lundy, 6 March 2008. Hereinafter cited as "re: Bryan Family".

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Joan FitzAlan1,2,3,4,5,6,7
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
F, #25615, b. circa 1374, d. 1 September 1404
Father Sir John FitzAlan, 1st Lord Arundel, Lord Maltravers3,8,5,9,7 b. c 1348, d. 15 Dec 1379
Mother Eleanor Maltravers3,8,5,9,7 b. c 1345, d. 12 Jan 1405
Joan FitzAlan was born circa 1374 at of Arundell, Cornwall, England. She married Sir William de Bryan, son of Sir Guy de Bryan, Lord Bryan, Admiral of the Fleet, Governor of St. Briavel's Castle, Warden of the Forest of Dean and Elizabeth de Montagu, before 1390; No issue.10,11,3,4,5,6,7 Joan FitzAlan married Sir William Echyngham, son of Sir William de Echingham and Elizabeth de Criol, before 1400; They had 1 son (Sir Thomas) and 1 daughter (Joan).2,3,4,5,6,7 Joan FitzAlan died on 1 September 1404; Buried at Etchingham, Sussex.3,5,7
Family 1
Sir William de Bryan d. 23 Sep 1395
Family 2
Sir William Echyngham b. c 1370, d. 20 Mar 1413
Children

• Sir Thomas Echingham+10,3,5,7 b. c 1400, d. 15 Oct 1444
• Joan Echingham+ b. c 1404

Citations
1.[S8013] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 91; The Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants, by Gary Boyd Roberts, p. 295.
2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 41-42.
3.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 281.
4.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 32.
5.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 101.
6.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 151.
7.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 482.
8.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 31.
9.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 149.
10.[S387] Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis., p. 91.
11.[S11568] The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. II, p. 362, notes.
From: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p853.htm#...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_FitzAlan,_1st_Baron_Arundel

THIS HAS ERROR ON JOAN'S MARRIAGES, SHE MARRIED 1ST WILLIAM DE BRYAN

On 17 February 1358, John was married to Lady Eleanor Maltravers (Mautravers) (1345 – 10 January 1404/1406), daughter of John Maltravers and Gwenthin. They had at least five children (some references list more):

Joan FitzAlan (D' Arundel) (c. 1360 – 1 September 1404. She married first Sir William de Etchingham and secondly William de Brien.

John FitzAlan, 2nd Baron Arundel (3 November 1364 – 14 August 1390), who married Elizabeth le Despenser.

Richard FitzAlan (c. 1366 – 3 June 1419).

William Arundel (c. 1369 – 1400. He was a Knight of the Garter.

Henry Fitzlangley (c. 1369 – 1428), who married Alice Lnu.

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Ancestral roots of certain American colonists who came to America before ... By Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, Kaleen E Pg.69

http://books.google.com/books?id=3F9nG8aFJ7MC&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69&dq=W...

34. Eleanor Maltravers, b. 1345, d. 10 Jan. 1405/6; m. Sir John D'Arundel, 1st Lord Arundel, d.1379, Marshall of England.

35. Joan D'Arundel, d. 1 Sept. 1404; m.1st William de Brien; m.2nd about 1401, Sir William de Echyngham of Echyngham, Sussex, d. 20 Mar. 1412/13.

36. Sir Thomas de Echyngham, lord of Echyngham, Sussex, b. abt. 1401 d. 15 Oct. 1444; m. 1415-1424 Margaret Knyvet, liv. 1467, dau. of John Knyvet, Sr.. and wife Joan of Norfolk, widow of Sir Robert de Tye of Barsham ds.p. 1415.

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The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna Charta, 1215 ... By Frederick Lewis Weis, William Ryland Beall Pg.106

http://books.google.com/books?id=59XcwoRK9jkC&pg=PA106&lpg=PA106&dq...

8. Eleanor Maltravers, Lady Maltravers, b. c. 1345, ae. 19 in 1364, d. 10 Jan. 1405/6; m. (1) 17 Feb. 1358/9, Sir John d'Arundel, son of Richard Fitz Alan of Arundel.

9. Joan Fitz Alan, of Arundel, d. 1 Sept 1404; m. (1) Sir William de Brien; m. (2) c. 1401, Sir William de Echyngham of Echyngham, co. Suffolk, d. 20 Mar 1412/13.

10. Sir Thomas de Echyngham, of Echyngham, d. 1444; m. (2) Margaret, dau. of John Knyvet, Sr and wife Joan of Norfolk, wid. of Sir Robert de Tye of Barsham, d.s.p. 1415.

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Notes and queries for Somerset and Dorset ..., Volumes 7-8 Pg.290

http://books.google.com/books?id=YO3gAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA290&lpg=RA1-...

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The Topographer and Genealogist By John Gough Nichols Pg. 254

http://books.google.com/books?id=MxNUA_SXaToC&pg=PA254&lpg=PA254&dq...

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We are indebted to Wendy (Gwendolyn Jean Edmands) Pearson for research in this line.

See My Lines (http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/p427.htm#i23298) from Compiler: R. B. Stewart, Evans, GA

( http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cousin/html/index.htm )
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http://helenesgenes.com/Echingham.html
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Joan FitzAlan, who married firstly Sir William de Bryan, and secondly, Sir William Echingham. She is buried in the chancel of Etchingham Church. She probably died in childbirth, as her daughter was born the year she died. Her mother died a year later.
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