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John Sayles, II

Also Known As: "Seals", "Sayles"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Charlestown, Massachusetts Bay Colony
Death: 1681 (47-48)
Providence, Providence Plantation, Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations
Place of Burial: Middletown, Newport County, Rhode Island, United States
Immediate Family:

Son of John Sayles and Maria Philippa Sayles
Husband of Mary Sayles
Father of Mary Holmes; John Sayles, III; Deborah Carr; Susannah Sayles; Phoebe Greene and 7 others
Brother of Femmetje 'Phebe' Jans Sayles; Sarah Seals and Richard Sayles

Occupation: commissioner, clerk, treasurer, warden, grand juror, councilman, deputy
Additional Information: JOHN SAYLES, son of John Sayles, of Manchester, England, was brought to this country, by his father, in 1635, at the age of two years, and, after living for a time at Portsmouth, RI, he came to Providence, where, about 1650, he married Mary Williams, daug
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About John Sayles, II

John Sayles Jr.

  • BIRTH 1633 Greater Manchester, England
  • BIRTH 1633 in Charlestown, Suffolk Co., MA
  • DEATH 1681 (aged 47–48) Middletown, Newport County, Rhode Island, USA
  • BURIAL Easton Lot, Middletown, Newport County, Rhode Island, USA
  • MEMORIAL ID 19727689 by James A. Culipher & MRC

John Sayles Jr., son of John Sayles, sr. of Manchester, England, was brought to this country, by his father, in 1635, at the age of two years, and, after living for a time at Portsmouth, RI, he came to Providence, where, about 1650, he married Mary Williams, daughter of Roger and Mary Williams, of Providence. In 1653 he was treasurer of the Assembly which met at Providence, May 16. In 1656 he 'entered an anker of liquor.' The same year he assisted Thomas Angell in rescuing a prisoner from the custody of a Massachusetts officer. In 1657 he was empowered 'to treat with the Indians that lay claim to the meadows of Lohusqussuck, and clear it for the town and the above mentioned be accommodated therein.' In 1677 he was fined twenty shillings for not attending grand jury. During the thirty years or thereabouts, from the time of his marriage till his death, he was at different times commissioner, town clerk, town treasurer, warden, grand juror, a member of the town council, and he was twelve times chosen assistant or deputy. [1]



John was brought to this country, by his father, in 1635, at the age of 2 years, and, after living for a time at Portsmouth, R. I., he came to Providence, where, about 1650, he married Mary Williams, daughter of the famous Roger and Mary (???) Williams, of Providence. According to tradition, John came from England with his brothers Richard and Thomas. Richard settled on what is now called Sayles Hill in Smithfield, RI and Thomas settled in Rehoboth. He purchased a house in Providence on 1/27/1650 from John Throckmorton. He bought land from Ralph Earle on 5/12/1652. He was an assistant to the Governor 1653-55-58-59. He was admitted a freeman in 1655. he was commissioner 1655-57. In 1656 he "entered an anker of liquor." The same year he assisted Thomas Angell in rescuing a prisoner from the custody of a Massachusetts officer.

In 1657 he was empowered "to treat with the Indians that lay claim to the meadows of Lohusqussuck, and clear it for the town and the above mentioned be accommodated therein."  He was town treasurer from 1659-1666.  He took the oath of allegiance 5/31/1666.  He served on the grand jury 1669-1671 and was deputy to the General Assembly 1669-71, 1677-78.  He served on the town council 1670-1671.  In 1677 he was fined 20 shillings for not attending grand jury. During the 30 years or thereabouts, from the time of his marriage till his death, he was at different times commissioner, town clerk, town treasurer, warden, grand juror, a member of the town council, and he was 12 times chosen assistant or deputy.  He died in 1681, and his grave with that of his wife and son-in-law, William Greene, can be found in the Easton burial ground, near Sachuset Beach, Middletown, R. I. [Thayer and Burton Ancestry, p. 97].

==Chronology== 1651, Jany. 27, he bought a house and lot of John Throckmorton on Aquidneck Island
1652, May 12, he bought land of Ralph Earle near West River.
1653, 55, 57, 58, 59 he was Assistant.
1655-57 he was Town Clerk.
1656, May 10, he entered an anker of liquor.
1657, Mar. 4, he wrote a letter on behalf of Providence to the town of Warwick about illegal arrest of Richard Chasmore by Mass. authorities.
1658, he was Warden.
1659-60, he was Town Treasurer.
1660, May 26, he sold land to Wm. Hawkins.
1663, AUG 21 moved to Providence, RI, deed still bears their names; see records of Providence, RI, Vol I.
1665, Feb. 19, he had lot 24 in division.
1666, May 31, he took oath of allegiance.
1669-71 he was on the Grand Jury.
1669, 70, 71, 74, 76, 77, 78 he was Deputy.
1670, May 4, he was named with three others to audit Colony accounts.
1670, June 24, he sold to Stephen Arnold one-thirteenth of the island called the Vineyard at Pawtuxet "which my father in law, Roger Williams, gave me."
1670, 71, Elected General Officer on the Providence Town Council
25 OCT 1671 2 Elected Deputy in the General Assembly of Rhode Island
1671, Aug. 21, he and Thomas Roberts were appointed to prize and transport the horse belonging to the town to R. I. and deliver to Joseph Torrey for pay't of debt due from this town.
20 JAN 1672 a piece of meadow near Providence, RI
1677, May 7, he was fined 20 s. for not attending Grand Jury.

Notes

John and Mary Sayles lived on Aquidneck Island and are buried near Easton's Beach, Middletown, Rhode Island. Both buried on farm of Peter Easton, Paradise Road, Middletown, R.I. Gravestone still standing. (1949). The early town records read, "Sold 5 acres of land, a piece of meadow, bounded on the north with a white oak, on the southeast with a white oak, on the southwest and northwest with oaks to Richard Euerindell on January 20, 1672."

The records read, "Thomas Olney Sr, Mr John Sayles, and Thomas Olney Jr. are Chosen to add to the General officers of this Town to makeup the Town Counsel; Mr William Harris and Mr John Sayles are Chosen surveyors, for the laying out of such Lands as are to be laid out in this Town of providence; Thomas Robarts, & John Smith (ye mason) are Chosen surveyors for the repairing of the High Ways." Olney was the maiden name of the wife of John Sayle's son.

Inscription
Hear Lyeth ye
Body of John
Sayles, who
died in ye
year 1681
aged 48 years

Spouse
Mary Williams Sayles 1636–1681

Children 9x all b. in Providence, RI
Mary Sayles Holmes 7/11/1652–1717
John Sayles III 8/17/1654–1727
Deborah Sayles Carr 1656–1728
Phebe Sayles Greene 1658–1744
Isabel Sayles Hicks 1659–1735
Anne Sayles ca 1662
Richard Sayles ca 1664
Elinor/Eleanor "Mary" Sayles Greene 1671–1714
Catherine Sayles Olney 1672–1753

References

[1] https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/19727689/john-sayles#

[2] Genealogies of Rhode Island Families by Cutter, William Richard, 1969

[3] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aew56&id=...

[4] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mlstrickl...

[5] Walz / Sprague/ Connelly / Earl Genealogy by Arthur J. Walz Email: aewlz@aol.com

[6] New England Families: Genealogical and Memorial, Lewis Historical Publishing Co. 1914

[7] 10 Generations from William & Mary Dyer of Newport, R.I. by Liela Morse Wilson, Putnam, CT, private, 1949

[8] http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lucinda&i... Fowler/Read Contact: Rikki Email rikkisky@swcp.com

[9] http://www.genealogylibrary.com Memoirs of the Wilkinson Family by Israel Wilkinson, Davis & Penniman. Jacksonville, ILL. 1869

[10] MY ANCESTORS; IN MEMORY OF JOHN PAINE AND MARY ANN MAY OF E. WOODSTOCK, CT, Privately published, 1914 by Paine, Lyman, Broderbund - Family Tree Maker Online - GymnasticsLibrary.com Page: p 196

Sources

[11] Judith A. Hurst, Sayles Country, Gateway Press, Baltimore, 1986, p. 2 1

[12] Early town records of Providence, RI WWW Ancestry.COM Volume3, page 34

[13] A New England/New York Heritage, Joan Hicks Email: jhicks8311@sbcglobal.net

[14] "Genealogical Dictionary of Rhode Island, Who came before 1690", pages370 and 371 by John Osborne Austin

[15] Great Migration note - Not Related to John Sales of Charlestown & New Netherland! Ref NYGBR 123:72-73

[16] The Carr Book: Sketches of the Lives of many of the Descendants of Robert and Caleb Carr whose arrival on this continent in 1635 began the American story of our family, Arthur A. Carr, Ticonderoga, NY 1947 by Austin

[17] SAYLES COUNTRY, Gateway Press, Baltimore, 1986; Godfrey Library, Middletown, CT; Page: p 148 by Hurst, Judith A

[18] The Greenes of Rhode Island with Historical Records of England Ancestors by Louise Brown Clarke, Knickerbocker Press, New York, New York, 1903; Compiled by Julius A. Jahnke

Additional Data

  1. _UID: 600BE882659DD5118F72444553540001EF25 1
  2. ID: I974

Father: John Sayles

Mother: Phillipa Soales

Marriage 1 Mary Williams b: AUG 1633 in Plymouth, Plymouth Co., MA

   * Married: 1650 in Providence, Providence Co., RI

* Note: sfp 3
Children

  1. Has No Children Mary Sayles b: 11 JUL 1652

2. Has No Children John Sayles
3. Has Children Deborah Sayles b: ABT 1656 in Providence, Providence Co., RI
Father: * John 1 SAYLES b: 1600 in Sudbury, Suffolk, England

Mother: Phillipa SOLE b: 1602 in Sudbury, Suffolk, England c: 28 FEB 1602 in All Saints, Sudbury, England

Marriage 1 Mary WILLIAMS b: AUG 1633 in Plymouth, Plymouth Colony, MA

  • Married: ABT 1650 in Providence, Rhode Island
  1. D: I00767
  2. Name: John Sayles
  3. Sex: M
  4. Birth: 1633 1
  5. Death: 1681 in Middletown, RI
   From Paine, "My Ancestry", p 196:

JOHN SAYLES was born in 1633, lived in Providence, R. I. and died in 1681. In 1650 he married Mary, dau. of Roger Williams.
Father: John Sayles(Sales) b: ABT 1600 in Sudbury, Suffolk, Eng?

Mother: Phillip(a) Soales b: BEF 28 FEB 1601/02 in Sudbury, Suffolk, Eng

Marriage 1 Mary Williams b: AUG 1633 in Plymouth, MA

* Married: ABT 1650 in Providence, RI 3 1
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John Sayles, II's Timeline

1633
March 8, 1633
Charlestown, Massachusetts Bay Colony
1652
July 11, 1652
Providence, Providence Plantation, (Present Rhode Island)
1654
August 17, 1654
Providence, Providence Plantation, (Present Rhode Island)
1656
1656
Providence, Providence Plantation, (Present Rhode Island), Colonial America (Present USA)
1657
February 28, 1657
1658
1658
Providence, Providence Plantation
1659
1659
Providence, Providence Plantation, Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations
1662
1662
Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, USA
1664
1664
Providence, Providence, Rhode Island, USA