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About John Drummond of Innerpeffray, 1st Laird of Innerpeffray
- John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond1,2,3,4,5,6,7
- M, #18029, b. circa 1438, d. 1519
- Father Sir Malcolm Drummond, Lord Stobhall & Cargill d. 1470
- Mother Mariot Murray
- John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond Lord Stobhall. He married Elizabeth Lindsay, daughter of Sir Alexander Lindsay, 4th Earl Crawford and Margaret Dunbar.6 John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond was born circa 1438 at of Stobhall, Scotland. He died in 1519; Age 81.8
- Family Elizabeth Lindsay d. a 22 Sep 1509
- Children
- Elizabeth Drummond+4,7 d. a 21 Aug 1514
- Beatrix Drummond+
- Margaret Drummond+5,6 d. May 1502
- Eupheme Drummond+3 d. May 1502
- Annabel Drummond+ d. a 1492
- Malcolm Drummond d. b 1519
- William Drummond, Master of Drummond+ d. bt Jul 1503 - Jul 1504
- Sibylla Drummond d. 1502
- Sir John Drummond, 1st Laird of Innerpeffray+9 b. c 1460
- Citations
- 1.[S5307] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 54; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 1951.
- 2.[S11586] The Scots Peerage, Vol. VII, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 41-45.
- 3.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 593.
- 4.[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 588-589.
- 5.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 242-243.
- 6.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 671.
- 7.[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 667-668.
- 8.[S11586] The Scots Peerage, Vol. VII, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 42.
- 9.[S11586] The Scots Peerage, Vol. VII, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 41-44.
- From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p600.htm#i...
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- John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond1
- M, #108313, b. circa 1438, d. circa 1519
- Last Edited=6 Oct 2012
- Consanguinity Index=0.01%
- John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond was born circa 1438. He was the son of Sir Malcolm Drummond and Mariot Murray. He married Lady Elizabeth Lindsay, daughter of Alexander Lindsay, 4th Earl of Crawford and Margaret Dunbar, in 1462.2,3 He died circa 1519.
- He was created 1st Lord Drummond [Scotland] on 29 January 1487/88.1,2 He has an extensive biographical entry in the Dictionary of National Biography.4
- Children of John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond and Lady Elizabeth Lindsay
- 1.Beatrix Drummond+5
- 2.William Drummond, Master of Drummond+ d. 1490
- 3.Annabella Drummond+6
- 4.Margaret Drummond+1 d. 1502
- 5.Elizabeth Drummond+7 d. a 21 Aug 1514
- 6.Euphemia Drummond3 d. 1501
- 7.Sybilla Drummond3 d. 1501
- 8.Malcolm Drummond3 b. c 1463, d. 1470
- 9.Sir John Drummond, 1st of Innerpeffray+3 b. c 1500
- Citations
- 1.[S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 240. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Families.
- 2.[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume IV, page 469. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
- 3.[S1224] Derek Hughes, "re: 1st Lord Drummond," e-mail message to Darryl Lundy, 22 December 2004, 13 February 2005 and 2 March 2005. Hereinafter cited as "re: 1st Lord Drummond."
- 4.[S18] Matthew H.C.G., editor, Dictionary of National Biography on CD-ROM (Oxford, U.K.: Oxford University Press, 1995). Hereinafter cited as Dictionary of National Biography.
- 5.[S37] Volume 2, page 2768. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
- 6.[S37] See. [S37]
- 7.[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume I, page 157.
- From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p10832.htm#i108313
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- John Drummond, first Lord Drummond (died 1519), was a Scottish statesman.
- Drummond, ninth successive knight of his family, was the eldest son of Sir Malcolm Drummond of Cargill and Stobhall, Perthshire, by his marriage with Mariota, eldest daughter of Sir David Murray of Tullibardine in the same county. He sat in parliament 6 May 1471, under the designation of Lord of Stobhall. On 20 March 1473–4 he had a charter of the offices of seneschal and coroner of the earldom of Strathearn,in which he was confirmed in the succeeding reign.[1] In 1483 he was one of the ambassadors to treat with the English King, with a safe-conduct (passport) granted 29 November of that year; again, on 6 August 1484, to treat of the marriage of James, Prince of Scotland, and Anne de la Pole, niece of Richard III. He was a commissioner for settling border differences nominated by the treaty of Nottingham, 22 September 1484; his safe-conduct into England being dated on the ensuing 29 November.
- James III of Scotland took the office of Steward of Strathearn from Drummond in September 1475, making him his enemy. Although Dummond was raised to the peerage by the title of Lord Drummond, 29 January 1488, soon after he joined the rebel party against James III, and he sat in the first parliament of James IV, 6 October 1488.
- In this same year he was appointed a privy councillor and justiciary of Scotland, and was afterwards constable of the castle of Stirling. In 1489 John Stewart, 1st Earl of Lennox, rose in revolt against the king. He had encamped at Gartalunane, on the south bank of the Forth, in the parish of Aberfoyle, but during the darkness of the night of 11 Oct. was surprised and utterly routed by Drummond.[2] As one of the commissioners to redress border and other grievances, Drummond had a safe-conduct into England 22 May 1495, 26 July 1511, 24 Jan. 1513, and 20 April 1514.[3]
- In 1514 Drummond gave great offence to many of the lords by promoting the marriage of his grandson, Archibald Douglas, sixth earl of Angus, with the queen-dowager Margaret. The Lord Lyon King of Arms (Sir William Comyn) was despatched to summon Angus before the council at Stirling Castle, when Drummond, thinking that he had approached the earl with more boldness than respect, struck him on the breast. In 1515 John Stewart, Duke of Albany, was chosen Regent of Scotland, but because Drummond did not favour the election he committed him (16 July) a close prisoner to Blackness Castle, upon an allegation that he had used violence towards the herald He was tried capitally, found guilty, and his estates forfeited. However, he was not long in coming to terms with Albany. With other lords he signed the answer of refusal to Henry VIII, who had advised the removal of Albany, to which his seal is affixed, 4 July 1516, and in October he announced his final separation from the queen's party. He was in consequence released from prison and freed from his forfeiture, 22 November 1516.[4]
- He died at Drummond Castle, Strathearn, in 1519, and was buried in the church of Innerpeffray. He was succeeded by his great-grandson David. In Douglas's ‘Peerage of Scotland’ (ed. Wood, ii. 361) Drummond is absurdly stated to have married ‘Lady Elisabeth Lindsay, daughter of David, duke of Montrose.’ His wife was Elizabeth Lindsay, daughter of Alexander Lindsay, 4th Earl of Crawford, and by her he had three sons and six daughters. Malcolm, the eldest son, died young; David, master of Drummond, is not mentioned in the pedigrees, but is now believed to have been the chief actor in the massacre of members of the Murrays at Monivaird Church (Monzievaird), for which he was executed after 21 Oct. 1490.[5] William was living in March 1503; and John was ancestor of the Drummonds of Innerpeffray and of Riccarton.
- Of the daughters, Margaret Drummond, mistress of James IV, was poisoned in 1501; Elizabeth married George Douglas, Master of Angus, and was great-grandmother of Henry, Lord Darnley, Beatrix, it has been said, married James Hamilton, 1st Earl of Arran; Annabella married William Graham, 1st Earl of Montrose; Eupheme, the wife of John Fleming, 4th Lord Fleming, was poisoned in 1501; and Sibylla shared a like fate, the sisters were buried at Dunblane Cathedral. Drummond was the common ancestor of the viscounts of Strathallan and of the earls of Perth and Melfort.
- From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Drummond,_1st_Lord_Drummond
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- DRUMMOND, JOHN, first Lord Drummond (d. 1519), statesman, ninth successive knight of his family, was the eldest son of Sir Malcolm Drummond of Cargill and Stobhall, Perthshire, by his marriage with Mariot, eldest daughter of Sir David Murray of Tullibardine in the same county. He sat in parliament 6 May 1471, under the designation of dominus de Stobhall. On 20 March 1473–4 he had a charter of the offices of seneschal and coroner of the earldom of Strathearn (Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum, ed. Paul, 1424–1513, p. 236), in which he was confirmed in the succeeding reign (ib. p. 372). In 1483 he was one of the ambassadors to treat with the English, to whom a safe-conduct was granted 29 Nov. of that year; again, on 6 Aug. 1484, to treat of the marriage of James, prince of Scotland, and Anne de la Pole, niece of Richard III. He was a commissioner for settling border differences nominated by the treaty of Nottingham, 22 Sept. 1484; his safe-conduct into England being dated on the ensuing 29 Nov. He was raised to the peerage by the title of Lord Drummond, 29 Jan. 1487–8. Soon after he joined the party against James III, and sat in the first parliament of James IV, 6 Oct. 1488. In this same year he was appointed a privy councillor and justiciary of Scotland, and was afterwards constable of the castle of Stirling. In 1489 the so-called Earl of Lennox rose in revolt against the king. He had encamped at Gartalunane, on the south bank of the Forth, in the parish of Aberfoyle, but during the darkness of the night of 11 Oct. was surprised and utterly routed by Drummond (Buchanan, Rer. Scotic. Hist. lib. xiii. c. v.). As one of the commissioners to redress border and other grievances, Drummond had a safe-conduct into England 22 May 1495, 26 July 1511, 24 Jan. 1512–13, and 20 April 1514 (Hardy, Syllabus of Rymer's Fœdera, ii. 729, 743, 745; Letters and Papers of Hen. VIII, ed. Brewer, i. 274, 316, 448, 478, 789). In 1514 Drummond gave great offence to many of the lords by promoting the marriage of his grandson, Archibald Douglas, sixth earl of Angus, with the queen-dowager Margaret. Lyon king-at-arms (Sir William Comyn) was despatched to summon Angus before the council, when Drummond, thinking that he had approached the earl with more boldness than respect, struck him on the breast. In 1515 John, duke of Albany, was chosen regent, but because Drummond did not favour the election he committed him (16 July) a close prisoner to Blackness Castle, upon an allegation that he had used violence towards the herald (Letters &c. of Henry VIII, vol. ii. pt. i. pp. 187, 205, 520). He was tried capitally, found guilty, and his estates forfeited. However, he was not long in coming to terms with Albany. With other lords he signed the answer of refusal to Henry VIII, who had advised the removal of Albany, to which his seal is affixed, 4 July 1516, and in October he announced his final separation from the queen's party (ib. pp. 643, 772). He was in consequence released from prison and freed from his forfeiture, 22 Nov. 1516. He died at Drummond Castle, Strathearn, in 1519, and was buried in the church of Innerpeffray. He was succeeded by his great-grandson David. In Douglas's ‘Peerage of Scotland’ (ed. Wood, ii. 361) Drummond is absurdly stated to have married ‘Lady Elisabeth Lindsay, daughter of David, duke of Montrose.’ His wife was Elizabeth Lindsay, daughter of Alexander, fourth earl of Crawford, and by her he had three sons and six daughters. Malcolm, the eldest son, died young; David, master of Drummond, is not mentioned in the pedigrees, but is now believed to have been the chief actor in the outrage on the Murrays at Monivaird Church, for which he was executed after 21 Oct. 1490 (Exchequer Rolls of Scotland, ed. Burnett, vol. x. p. 1, with which cf. Accounts of the Lord High Treasurer, Scotland, ed. Dickson, vol. i. pp. cii–civ); William was living in March 1502–3; and John was ancestor of the Drummonds of Innerpeffray and of Riccarton. Of the daughters, Margaret [q. v.], mistress of James IV, was poisoned in 1501; Elizabeth married George, master of Angus, and was great-grandmother of Henry, lord Darnley; Beatrix married James, first earl of Arran; Annabella married William, first earl of Montrose; Eupheme, the wife of John, fourth lord Fleming, was poisoned in 1501; and Sibylla shared a like fate. Drummond was the common ancestor of the viscounts of Strathallan and of the earls of Perth and Melfort.
- [Douglas's Peerage of Scotland (Wood), ii. 360–1; Malcolm's Memoir of the House of Drummond, pp. 67–86; Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum (Paul), 1424–1513, (Paul and Thomson) 1513–46; Exchequer Rolls of Scotland (Burnett), vols. vii–x.; Accounts of the Lord High Treasurer, Scotland (Dickson), vol. i.; Cal. State Papers, Scottish Ser. (1509–89), p. 1; Letters and Papers of Hen. VIII (Brewer), 1509–16.]
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- From: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Drummond,_John_(d.1519)_(DNB00)
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- Alexander Lindsay, 4th Earl of Crawford (d. 1453) was a late mediaeval Scottish nobleman, and a magnate of the north-east of that country.
- Alexander Lindsay was the son of David Lindsay, 3rd Earl of Crawford and Marjory Ogilvie, the daughter of Sir Alexander Ogilvie of Auchterhouse.
- Known as the Tiger Earl or Earl Beardie, Crawford was one of the most powerful of the Scottish nobles. For some time he was in arms against King James II as part of the Douglas rebellion. In February 1452, William Douglas, 8th Earl of Douglas was personally killed at Stirling Castle by James II for refusing to dissolve his league with Alexander. The Tiger Earl was defeated at the Battle of Brechin on 18 May, and he submitted to James II in 1452.
- Legend has it that he is the infamous "Earl Beardie" featured in one of the myths of Glamis Castle.
- Alexander, Earl of Crawford married Margaret Dunbar, daughter of Sir David Dunbar of Cockburn, himself a son of George I, Earl of March, and had issue:
- Lady Elizabeth Lindsay (d. 1509), married to John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond
- David Lindsay, 1st Duke of Montrose (1440-1495)
- Alexander Lindsay, 7th Earl of Crawford (d. 1517).
- Lord Crawford also had an illegitimate son, Alexander, who entered holy orders and became a canon of Aberdeen.
- From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lindsay,_4th_Earl_of_Crawford
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John Drummond Lord Drummond [68, Fleming earls of Wigtown, Vol VIII, p. 536], [68, Drummond earls of Perth, Vol 7, pp. 40-43], [49, Drummond article, Vol IV, p. 469], [44, His own article], [49, Angus article, Vol I, p. 157], 15G Grandfather
Birth ca 1438
Death 1519, Drummond castle, Scotland
Burial Innerpefray, Scotland
General 1st s. 1st lord: 1488. Supported Jas IV versus his father Jas III and richly rewarded.
Father Sir Malcolm Drummond (-1470)
Mother Marion Murray
Spouses
1 Elizabeth Lindsay [68, Drummond earls of Perth, Vol 7, p. 42], [68, Lindsay earls of Crawford article, vol III, p. 22], 15G Grandmother
General Only dau.
Father Alexander Lindsay Earl of Crawford (-1453)
Mother Margaret Dunbar
Children Elizabeth (->1514)
Eupheme (-ca1502)
William (-<1504)
Margaret
[68, Fleming earls of Wigtown, Vol VIII, p. 536], [68, Drummond earls of Perth, Vol 7, pp. 40-43], [49, Drummond article, Vol IV, p. 469], [44, His own article], [49, Angus article, Vol I, p. 157]
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"Genealogical Memoir of the Most Noble and Ancient House of Drummond" by David Malcolm, published in Edinburgh, Scotland, 1808. (price was 1 guinea to subscribers)
This book goes into the deep history of the Drummond family, and how they fit into the peerage of Scotland. Sir John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond lived during the reigns of King James III, James IV, and James V from about the years 1470 to 1519. He was an important legal and political leader of that time. James IV was so enamoured with Lord Drummond's eldest daughter, Margaret, that he intended to make her his wife. The nobles and royal council did not approve of the marriage, so they poisoned Margaret and two of her sisters over breakfast one morning so that James would cooperate in an arranged marriage with the daughter of King Henry VIII of England. However, under promise of marriage, she bore to the King a daughter, Lady Margaret Stewart from whom our family descends.
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JOHN DRUMMOND, son and heir of Sir Malcolm Drummond, (died 1470), of Stobhall and Cargill, co. Perth, by Mariot, 1st daughter of Sir David MURRAY, of Tullibardine, sat in parliament [SCT] 6 May 1471 under the designation of Dominus de Stobhafl; was Seneschal of Stratherne, 20 March 1473/4; was one of the Embassy to England 1483-84. On 29 January1487/8, he was created LORD DRUMMOND [SCT]. He joined the party against James III and sat in the first parliament of James IV, 6 October 1488. He defeated the insurgent Earl of Lennox at Tillymoss, in 1489, and again, completely, at Gartalunane, near Aberfoyle, 11 October 1489. P.C. and Justiciary [SCT] 1488; Constable of Stirling Castle; one of the Embassy to treat with the English 1495, I511) and 1512/13; was imprisoned by the Regent Albany 6 July 1515 to 23 November 1516, on the charge of striking Lyon King at Arms (Sir William Comyn), was forfeited, but was restored in 1516. He married Elizabeth, daughter of Alexander (LINDSAY),4th EARL OF CRAWFORD [SCT], by Margaret, daughter of Sir David DUNBAR. She was living, 22 September 1509. He died 1519 at Drummond Castle, aged 81,[e] and was buried at Innerpeffray. [Complete Peerage IV:469]
[e] Of his six daughters the most noted was Margaret (mistress to James IV), who was poisoned with her sisters, Sybil Drummond, and Eupheme, wife of John, Lord Fleming, in May 1502, all 3 being buried at Dunblane. Of the other three---Annabel married William (Graham), 1st Earl of Montrose (SCT]; Beatrice was mistress of James (Hamilton), 1st Earl of Arran [SCT]; while Elizabeth married, 1stly, Sir David Fleming, grandson of Robert, 1st Lord Fleming, who died before 1482, and 2ndly, George Douglas, Master of Angus, and was mother of Archibald, 6th Earl of Angus [SCT], whose daughter and heir, Margaret, Countess of Lennox [SCT], was mother of Henry (Stuart), Lord Darnley, King Consort of Scotland, the father of James I and VI, and ancestor of every succeeding monarch of Great Britain.
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Sir John Drummond of Cargill and Stobhall succeeded his father in 1470. On 20 March 1473-74 he had a grant of the offices of Steward, Coroner, and Forester of the earldom of Strathearn on the resignation of Maurice Drummond. On 3 February 1482-83 he had a charter, along with his wife, of the lands of Auchterarder and others, co Perth, and Argeth and Smithston, co Forfar, on his own resignation, and on 8 August 1485 he purchased from Alexander Bruce of Kendrick the lands of Classingallis in Strathearn. He had been appointed in the previous year one of a commission to negotiate a marriage between King James's eldest son and Laddy Anne de la Pole, the niece of Richard III, and daughter of the Duke of Suffolk; at the same time the commissioners concluded a treaty of peace between England and Scotland for three years. He was, on 29 January 1487-88, created a Lord of Parliament under the title of Lord of Drummond. He was one of the rebel lords who support the party of King James IV against his father, and on 11 October 1490 he attacked the camp of the forces led by the Earl of Lennox and Lord Lyle at Gartalunane, near Aberfoyle, and completely defeated them. On 25 July 1493 he had a grant from the King as 'consiliarius suus' of the lands of Dalchonzie and others in Strathearn, and another on 31 January 1495-96 of the lordship of Drummond in Menteith. He had many other grants of land from the King, who highly appreciated the services he had rendered him. In the following reign he was not so fortunate; he was a strong supporter of the marriage between his grandson Archibald, sixth Earl of Angus and Queen Margaret, the widow of King James IV, and his nephew, the Dean of Dunblane, solemnized it in the Chruch of Kinsale on 6 August 1514. The marriage was very unpopular, and hardly a year had passed before Drummond was warded in the Castle of Blackness on the charge of advising that Henry VIII should be constituted Protector of Scotland and have the care of the young King. A few days afterwards there was another accusation because he 'waffed his slief at ane harraide and gave him upon the breist with his hand.' The 'harralde' was Sir William Cumming of Inverallochy, Lyon King of Arms, to whom he gave a blow for what he though disrespectful conduct. The consequence was that not only was he imprisoned, but his estates were forfeited, and it was only on the urgent representations of the Queen and the Estates of Parliemtn that he was pardoned and restored the following year. Lord Drummond did not live long after this, dying, at the age of eighty-one, at Drummond Castle. He was buried, in 1519, at the chruch of Innerpeffray, to which he had mortified an annualrent of forty merks from his lands there, for the souls of the King and Queen, of himself, his wife, and their daughter Margaret, and for the support of four chaplainries. He married Elizabeth Lindsay, said to have been daughter of Alexander, fourth Earl of Crawford. She was living in 1509. [The Scots Peerage VII:40-42]
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John Drummond of Innerpeffray, 1st Laird of Innerpeffray's Timeline
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