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Joan Greene (unknown)

Also Known As: "Joan (Ann) Beggerly", "Jane Greene", "Joane Jane Beggarly", "Joanne Tattersoll", "Joan Beggarly", "Joan Ann"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: England (United Kingdom)
Death: March 24, 1682 (67)
Coventry, Kent County, Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Colonial America
Place of Burial: Rhode Island, United States
Immediate Family:

Wife of John Greene; NN Beggarly and John Greene, of Quidnessette
Mother of Captain Edward Green; Captain Edward Greene; Lieutenant John Greene; Daniel Greene; Henry Greene and 3 others

Managed by: Thomas Mathias Cullen, Jr.
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About Joan Greene

John Green (d. c. 1695) married a widow Joan (____) Beggarly.[1]



Joan was born circa 1614 at England. She married John Greene, son of Robert Greene, circa 1641 at Quidnessett, Washington, RI.1 Joan Beggarly died in 1682 at Kingston, Washington, RI.

Joan's maiden name is unknown. Beggarly was the surname of her first husband.

Governor Winthrop, of Massachusetts, speaking of one held to be John of Quidnessett, described her husband John Greene as being: "One Greene who married the widow of one Beggarly".

Joan would seem to have been a young widow of a Mr. Beggarly.

Family

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Greene-950

She married John Greene during one of his business trips to Massachusetts around 1642.

Children list from Austin: John of Kings Town and wife Joan[5]

  1. John b. 6 June 1651; d. 1729; m. Abigail
  2. James b. 1655; d. 1728; married (1) Elizabeth; m. (2) Ann
  3. Daniel d. 1730; m Rebecca Barrow
  4. Edward m. Mary Tibbitts
  5. Benjamin d. 1719; m. Humility Coggeshall

Children list from the Settlers of the Beekman Patent.[6]

  1. Edward b. c. 1643; m. Mary Tibbetts
  2. Daniel b. c 1647; died 1730; m. Rebecca Barrow (perhaps a 2nd m.)
  3. Henry b. c 1648-50; m. Sarah d/o John Greenman. Went to Monmouth, N.J. died there c 1694
  4. John b. 16 Jun 1651; m. Abigail
  5. Robert b. 1653
  6. James b. 1655; d. 1728; m. ?Elizabeth Jenkins; m. (2) Ann
  7. Benjamin b. c. 1665; m. Humility Coggesshall
  8. Sarah; m. Thomas Founders

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Biography

From: The Greene family and its branches : from A.D. 861 to A.D. 1904 (flawed source)

The date of John of Ouidnessett's marriage can be nearly approximated.
After living several years in Richard Smith's family, he married a young widow, Mrs. Joan Beggarly. It is Governor Winthrop of Massachusetts who gives her name. Therefore, she was doubtless a member of that Colony. Greene and Smith must have made many trips to Boston after goods for their Indian trading post. On one of these trips, Greene may have married the widow.

They raised a good-sized family. Like all the Gillingham Greenes they had more sons than daughters. As they had four sons old enough to be freemen in 1671, the date of their marriage was probably about 1642.

Captain Edward was the oldest son, and born about 1643, he had a grand- son ten to twelve years of age, in 1695. Lieut. John* appears to have been the next son. He must have been near man's estate, in 1664, when in official records John of Ouidnessett is styled John Greene, Senior. He is regarded as the "Son" in the tracts of land held by "John Greene and Son," in 1666, when he nuist have been of full legal age. Daniel and Henry were both " engaged" as R. I. freemen the same day with their father, the day of the great compromise of the Ouidnessett land suit, ]\Iay 20, 1671.

So the younger of the two could not have been born later than 1650. A daughter is probably next; then came Robert, born in 1653, for he was a freeman in 1674. Huling gives James' birth year as 1655. There was a son Benjamin, supposed to be the youngest of them all. There was almost certainly a daughter Enfield, bearing that peculiar name that for five generations was handed down in the Ouidnessett family. Probably there was a Welthian also. It was a Gillingham family name, and is found in the names of the brothers' daughters and granddaughters.

There were therefore eight children, and probably nine. Henry went to New Jersey, and Robert is supposed to have gone there also. No attempt is made to trace their lines or the daughters' families

The Quidnessett Greenes are therefore descended from one of these five brothers, Edward^, John", Daniel", James" or Benjamin". *In nearly all R. I. histories. Lieut. John- of Coventry's birth is given as on June 16, 1651. This date is not that of Lieut. John's hirth. but that of Lieut-Governor John Greene of JKancicfc. The similarity of names and title has caused the confusion.

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Governor Winthrop, of Massachusetts, speaking of one held to be John of Quidnessett, uses this language: "One Greene who married the wife of one Beggarly".

So his wife was a young widow, Mrs. Joan Beggarly, whom he married on one of his business trips to Massachusetts around 1642. It is interesting to note here that the wife of John Greene of Warwick, second cousin of our John, was also a Joan, her name being Tatarsole. They were married and had several children before they came to America.

Whether Joan Beggarly was handsome or plain featured; whether she was brilliant or dull, we do not know. But we do know that she possessed a remarkably even, sweet temper that nothing could ruffle or disturb. After the English custom, she had been baptized Joan but was always called Jane. There is an old family superstition among the Quidnessett Greenes tht all their Janes will be self-sacrificing women who will take special care of the sick and care for the old and infirm.
This superstitions likely dates from the good, placid Joan.

Ever since this good dame's day there have appeared again and again among her descendants some of her own sunny tempered kind. They look through rose-colored glasses and keep up a good heart and serene spirit whate'er betide. This disposition is illustrated by the stock family story of one of these good-natured Greenes whose wife had a furious temper. The story goes that when she was pleasant, he always blandly spoke to her as "Wife". When she began to fret and scold, he would soothingly remonstrate "Come! Come! Sister Greene, let's have no trouble"; but when the storm broke into a tantrum of rage and abuse, he would pick up his hat and beat a hasty retreat, philosophically saying, "Well! Well! Mrs. Greene, have it your own way, have it your own way!"

http://www.caskey-family.com/genealogy/JohnGreene2.htm

References

  1. La Mance, Lora S. The Green Family and all its Branches from A.D. 861 to A.D. 1904. Floral Park, NY: Mayflower Pub. Co., 1904. Page 53-59,
  2. Dutchess County, NY: The Settlers of the Beekman Patent (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2016), (Orig. Pub. by Frank J. Doherty, Pleasant Valley, NY. Frank J. Doherty, The Settlers of the Beekman Patent, Dutchess County, New York: An Historical and Genealogical Study of All the 18th Century Settlers in the Patent, ten volumes. 1990–2003). https://www.americanancestors.org/DB409/i/12175/752/0
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Joan Greene's Timeline

1614
July 2, 1614
England (United Kingdom)
1627
November 27, 1627
Age 13
Quinton, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom
1643
1643
1643
Rhode Island, United States
1645
1645
probably, Quidnessett, (Present Washington County), Providence Plantation (Present Rhode Island), Colonial America
1647
1647
Quidnessett, Colony of Rhode Island, Colonial America
1650
1650
Quidnessett, Washington, Rhode Island, United States
1653
1653
Quidnessett, Washington, Rhode Island, United States
1655
1655
Quidnessett, Washington County, Rhode Island, Colonial America