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ROGER [Rotger] ([855/65]-before I Nov 900). His birth date range is estimated from the estimated date of his marriage which, assuming that his wife's origin is correctly shown below, must be reasonably accurate. Abbo names "Rotgaire, comte et neveu de Hugues" as one of the supporters of "Hugues…prince et gouverneur de Bourges" in his war against Guillaume "le Pieux" Comte d´Auvergne, dated to 889 from the context[79]. Comte du Maine 897. The Actus pontificum Cenomannis records the attacks on the bishopric of Le Mans by "Rotgario", while Gunherius was bishop (from 890 to 913)[80]. His marriage, and the appointment of his rival Gauslin by the Capet family (see above), indicate that Roger must have been a Carolingian supporter. His date of death is estimated based on the charter dated 1 Nov 900 which names his presumed son and widow (see below). m ([890]%29 ROTHILDIS, daughter of Emperor CHARLES II "le Chauve" King of the West Franks & his second wife Richildis [de Provence] ([871]-[928/29]). Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks confirmed donations of property "in comitatu quoque Cœnomannico" made by "Hugo comes et mater sua Rothildis", at the request of "genitrix nostra Adeleidis et…comes Hugo consanguineus, necnon et…comes Ecfridus" by charter dated 1 Nov 900[81]. The charter dated 929 subscribed by "Hugonis comitis filii Rotgerii comitis" suggests that Rothildis must have been the wife of Roger[82]. Flodoard names "Rothildis, amitæ suæ [regis Karoli], socrus autem Hugonis" when recording that the king deprived her of "abbatiam…Golam" [Chelles] in favour of his favourite Haganon, the context dictating that "Hugonis" was "Hugo filius Rotberti"[83]. As the paternal aunt of King Charles III, chronology determines that she must have been the daughter of her father's second marriage, although no source has yet been identified which confirms that this is correct. She acquired the monasteries of Chelles, and Notre-Dame and Saint-Jean at Laon. She retreated to Chelles in 922 but was deprived of the monastery by her nephew Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks in favour of his favourite Haganon, an event which led to the rebellion of Robert Marquis en Neustrie who was the father of Rothildis's son-in-law (Hugues, later "le Grand" Duc des Francs)[84]. Her death is dated to [late 928/early 929] as Flodoard names "Rothildis…nuper defunctæ" when recording that "Heribertus et Hugo comites" (specifying that "Hugo" was "gener ipsius Rothildis") attacked "Bosonem Rodulfi regis frater" in 929 over the property of Rothildis[85]. Comte Rotger & his wife had two children:

i) HUGUES [I] du Maine ([890]-[26 Mar 931/Sep 960]). Charles III "le Simple" King of the West Franks confirmed donations of property "in comitatu quoque Cœnomannico" made by "Hugo comes et mater sua Rothildis", at the request of "genitrix nostra Adeleidis et…comes Hugo consanguineus, necnon et…comes Ecfridus" by charter dated 1 Nov 900[86]. This presumably indicates that Hugues's father was already dead at the time, and that Hugues himself was still a minor under the guardianship of his mother. If his mother's origin is correctly identified as shown above, Hugues could have been no more than ten years old at the time. It is assumed that "comes Hugo consanguineus" and "Hugo comes…" named in this charter were the same person, although this is not beyond all doubt. If it is correct, the consanguinity would have been through Hugues's mother who was King Charles's paternal aunt as shown above. He succeeded his father in [900] as Comte du Maine. His parentage is further confirmed by the charter dated 3 May 929 under which Hugues, future duc des Francs, returned property to Saint-Martin de Tours, subscribed by "Hugonis comitis filii Rotgerii comitis"[87]. Flodoard records that in 924 Raoul King of France granted Maine to "Hugoni filio Rotberti"[88] who, as noted below, was married to the sister of Hugues [I] Comte du Maine. It is not known whether this grant resulted in Comte Hugues [I] being temporarily dispossessed, or whether the appointment amounted to replacing Hugues (future Duc des Francs) as suzerain over Maine instead of the king. The latter is more probable as Comte Hugues [I] subscribed the charter of [Duc] Hugues dated 929, which indicates a continuing relationship between the two. ["Willelmi comitis, Hugoni comitis, item Hugoni, Savarici vicecomitis, Kadeloni vicecomitis, Adraldi vicecomitis, Radulfi vicecomitis…" subscribed the charter dated [936/37] ("anno I Ludovico regnante") under which "Senegundis" donated "alodem suum in pago Alienense, in vicaria Basiacinse in villa…Fornax…" to St Cyprien, Poitiers[89]. Settipani suggests that "Hugonis comitis" can reasonably identified as Hugues [I] Comte du Maine[90].] "Hugonis ducis, filiorum eius Othonis et Hugonis, Odonis comitis, Hugonis comitis Cenomannorum, Hervei comitis Mauritaniæ, Lamberti vicecomitis" subscribed the charter dated 25 Jun 954 under which "Lambertus filius Ansberti cum Girberga sorore mea…" donated property "in territorio Corbonensi" to Chartres Saint-Père[91]. "Teutbaldi comitis, Teutbaldi junioris, Gausfredi comitis, Hugonis comitis Cenomannorum…" subscribed the charter dated Sep 960 under which "Aremburgis" donated property to Saint-Florent de Saumur[92]. "Hugonis comitis Cenomannorum" in these two documents could either refer to Hugues [I] or Hugues [II]. m ---. The name of Hugues´s wife is not known. Hugues [I] & his wife had [one possible child]:

(a) [HUGUES (-after [936/37]). "Willelmi comitis, Hugoni comitis, item Hugoni, Savarici vicecomitis, Kadeloni vicecomitis, Adraldi vicecomitis, Radulfi vicecomitis…" subscribed the charter dated [936/37] ("anno I Ludovico regnante") under which "Senegundis" donated "alodem suum in pago Alienense, in vicaria Basiacinse in villa…Fornax…" to St Cyprien, Poitiers[93]. If, as noted above, Settipani is correct in suggesting that "Hugonis comitis" in the list of subscribers in this charter can reasonably identified as Hugues [I] Comte du Maine[94], it is possible that "item Hugoni" was his son or other close relative. If this is correct, the chronology suggests that he may have been the same person as [David/Hugues] du Maine who is shown below.]

ii) [JUDITH] du Maine ([before 900]-925). The marriage of Hugues Comte de Paris with the daughter of Roger Comte du Maine is deduced from Flodoard naming "Rothildis, amitæ suæ [regis Karoli], socrus autem Hugonis" when recording that the king deprived Rothilde of "abbatiam…Golam" [Chelles] in favour of his favourite Hagano, the context dictating that "Hugonis" was "Hugo filius Rotberti"[95]. The source which names her father has not yet been identified, but it appears reasonably certain from the sources quoted above that Rothilde's husband was Roger. She is named Judith in Europäische Stammtafeln[96], but the primary source on which this is based has not yet been identified. According to Settipani her name is not known[97]. m ([914]%29 as his first wife, HUGUES, son of ROBERT Marquis en Neustrie, Comte de Paris [later ROBERT I King of France] & his second wife Béatrix de Vermandois [Carolingian] ([898]-Dourdan, Essonne Jun 956, bur Saint-Denis). He was installed as HUGUES "le Grand" Duc des Francs in 936.

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Hugues I

Count of Maine, before 900-after 931 (after 939?).

[Count of Poitou, 938?]

Count Hugues, consanguineus of king Charles, appears with his mother Rothilde in a document of king Charles the Simple dated 31 October 900 ["... adeuntes nostrae dignitatis excellentiam dulcissima genitrix nostra Adeleidis et dilectus comes Hugo consanguineus ... in comitatu quoque Coenomannico Nunniagum villam, quam dedit Hugo comes et mater sua Rodhildis sancto Ebrulfo, in vicaria Gaviacense cum omnibus apendiciis." Werner (1958), 281-2, n. 128, citing Lauer, Recueil des actes de Charles le Simple, 75ff. (#35), which is not easily available to me; see also Werner (1967), 423]. The obvious suggestion that the Hugues of this 900 document was a count of Maine is confirmed by an act of 31 March 914, in which he appears as "Cinomanorum comitis" in a charter of duke Robert, abbot of Saint-Martin de Tours (later king Robert I) ["S. domni Hugonis Cinomanorum comitis qui aderat." Werner (1958), 287]. Count Hugues, son of Roger, appears in two charters of Hugues le Grand dated 3 May 930 [Latouche (1910), 137 (#1); see Werner (1958), 280, n. 121, 284-6, for the date as 930 instead of Latouche's 929] and 26 March 931 [Latouche (1910), 137 (#2)]. Since a count Roger of Maine is known from just prior to 900, these four documents fit together very well, and it is now generally acknowledged that they refer to the same count Hugues. He has sometimes been identified with the Hugues, count of Poitou, who appears in a charter of 936×7 and another of April 938 (see the Commentary section below). According to a late source, he was still living on 1 August 939, when he participated in a battle against the Normans along with the count of Rennes and count Alain of Nantes [Le Baud (2nd redaction), 134, citing unspecified annals].

Date of Birth: Unknown.

Place of Birth: Unknown.

Date of Death: Living 26 March 931, perhaps still alive 1 August 939.

Place of Death: Unknown.

Father: Roger, d. before 31 October 900, count of Maine.

Mother: Rothilde, daughter of Charles the Bald, king of the Western Franks, Emperor.

See above, and Rothilde's page.

Spouse: Uncertain.

See the Commentary section.

Children: Uncertain.

See the Commentary section.

Commentary

No known document gives us the identity of the wife of count Hugues I of Maine, nor is there any clear documentation for any children of Hugues.

Possible children:

See the page of Hugues II for a discussion of his parentage. Gauzlin is documented as a brother of Hugues II, so his attribution as a son of Hugues I depends on the correctness of the theory that Hugues II was a son of Hugues I.

MALE Hugues II, d. 976×992, count of Maine.

MALE Gauzlin.

[Keats-Rohan (1994), 19 & n. 97, citing a 990 charter of Mont Saint-Michel which mentions a Rorgo, son of Gauzlin, filius nepos fratris Hugonis cenomannensis, with the footnote reading: "Printed in Morice, Histoire ecclésiastique et civile de Bretagne, Preuves, t. I (Paris 1742), col. 350-1; edited by Hubert Guillotel, 'Les actes des ducs de Bretagne (940-1148)', doctoral thesis, Paris, 1976, no. 6, 21-30, and discussed by id., 'Des vicomtes d'Alet aux vicomtes de Poudouvre', Société d'histoire et d'archéologie de l'arondissement de Saint-Malo, Annales 1988, 205; compare Potts, 'Normandy or Brittany', 145 and n. 46." See also Keats-Rohan (1996), 15 & n. 12 and Keats-Rohan (2000), 60 & n. 27, both with the same citations from Morice and Guillotel, but without the citation from Potts] The reason for citing Morice (1742) is unclear, as the part of the charter quoted by Morice (evidently not the entire charter) does not give the parentage of Rorgo, and does not mention a Gauzlin or a Hugues of Maine. The citation from Potts lists manuscripts containing the charter, and notes that Morice's version of the charter is different, but does not mention Rorgo or Gauzlin [Potts (1989), 145, n. 6]. I have not seen the thesis of Guillotel.

Hugues as a possible count of Poitou

In a charter from the cartulary of Saint-Cyprien dated April 938 there appears a certain Hugues, count of Poitou ["Hugo, comes Pictav." Cart. S.-Cyprien, 61 (#65)]. He is evidently the same person as the count who appears with another count Hugh in a charter of 936×7 ["S. Willelmi comitis, Hugoni comitis, item Hugoni, ..., Radulfi vicecomitis, ..." Cart S.-Cyprien, 325 (#549)]. The presence of a viscount named Raoul (possibly Raoul, viscount of Le Mans) in the second witness list has encouraged the identification of the two men named Hugues with Hugues I and Hugues II of Maine. The Poitevin connections of Fulcoin/Foulques, a son of Hugues II, would also seem to encourage this identification. If the identification is correct, it would also strengthen the identification of Hugues II as a son of Hugues I. [See Keats-Rohan (1997), 194; Settipani (2004), 233, 284, n. 7; both cite the 1981 doctoral thesis of Jean-Pierre Brunterc'h, which I have not seen]

Conjectured connections

There have been a number of conjectured connections of Hugues I of Maine which are based mainly on onomastic considerations. There does not appear to be any direct evidence for any of the following conjectures.

Conjectured wife: NN, daughter of count Gauzlin.

Gauzlin was the name of the (evidently Rorgonid) count of Maine who opposed count Roger of Maine (father of Hugues) in the 890's. This conjecture is based on the appearance of the Rorgonid names Gauzlin and Rorgo among the descendants of Hugues, assuming the above Gauzlin to be a son of Hugues [Keats-Rohan (1996), 27; Keats-Rohan (1997), 194-5; Keats-Rohan (2000), 65; Settipani (2000), 257-8; the latter two give her the conjectured named Bilichildis].

Conjectured son:

MALE Hervé, count of Perche/Mortagne.

Conjectured granddaughters:

FEMALE Hildegarde, m. Geoffrey I, viscount of Châteaudun.

FEMALE Gerberge, m. (1) Bérenger; (2) Gelduin de Saumur.

Hildegarde and Gerberge are documented as sisters in a 980 charter from the cartulary of Saint-Florent [Settipani (1997), 259 & n. 236]. Without offering a reason, Keats-Rohan makes them grandchildren of Hugues I of Maine, with an unspecified intermediate link [Keats-Rohan (1996), 27; Keats-Rohan (1997), 194, 202; Keats-Rohan (2000), 65]. Discussing the origin of viscountess Hildegarde of Châteaudun, Settipani conjectured that Hildegarde and Gerberge were daughters of Hervé of Perche and that Hervé was a son of Hugues I of Maine, with both links indicated by dotted lines [Settipani (2000), 256-8]. The argument was onomastic, based largely on the appearance of the names Hugues and Hervé among the children of the two sisters. The Bérenger who was the first husband of Gerberge has sometimes been incorrectly identified with Juhel Bérenger, count of Rennes.

Conjectured daughters:

FEMALE NN, m. Gui, fl. 937, count.

[Conjectured parents of Rothilde, m. (1) Archambaud, viscount of Comborn; (2) Géraud, viscount of Limoges]

FEMALE Rothilde, m. Ainaud, fl. 937.

These two conjectured daughters are onomastically based, with no direct supporting evidence. The main factor is the presence of the name Rothilde, also the name of the mother of Hugues. In the case of the unnamed wife of Gui, the presence of the names Hugues and Geoffroy among the sons of viscount Géraud is also mentioned in support of the hypothesis [Settipani (2004), 233-7]

Bibliography

Cart S.-Cyprien = Cartulaire de l'Abbaye de Saint-Cyprien de Poiters (Archives historiques du Poitou 3, 1874).

Keats-Rohan (1994) = K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Two Studies in North French Prosopography", Journal of Medieval History 20 (1994): 3-37.

Keats-Rohan (1996) = K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, "Politique et Parentèle: Les comtes, vicomtes et évèques du Maine c. 940-1050", Francia 23/1 (1996): 13-30.

Keats-Rohan (1997) = K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, "'Un vassal sans histoire'?: Count Hugh II (c.940/955-992) and the origins of Angevin overlordship in Maine", in K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, ed., Family Trees and the Roots of Politics (Woodbridge, Suffolk, 1997): 189-210.

Keats-Rohan (2000) = K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, " 'Bilichildis' Problèmes et possibilités d'une étude de l'onomastique et de la parenté de la France du nord-ouest", in Keats-Rohan & Settipani, eds., Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident médiéval (Oxford, 2000), 57-68.

Latouche (1910) = Robert Latouche, Histoire de comté du Maine (Paris, 1910).

Le Baud (2nd redaction) = NN, sieur d'Hozier, ed., Histoire de Bretagne, avec les les chroniqves des maisons de Vitré et de Laval, par Pierre Le Bavd, chantre et chanoine (Paris, 1638). This was taken from the second redaction of Pierre Le Baud's history of Brittany, which was finished not long before his death on 19 September 1505.

Morice (1742) = Dom Hyacinthe Morice, Memoires pour servir de preuves à l'histoire ecclésiastique et civile de Bretagne, 3 vols, (Paris, 1742).

Potts (1989) = Cassandra Potts, "Normandy or Brittany? A Conflict of Interests at Mont Saint Michel (966-1035)", Anglo-Norman Studies 12 (1989): 137-156.

Settipani (1997) = Christian Settipani, "Les comtes d'Anjou et leur alliances aux Xe et XIe siècles", in K. S. B. Keats-Rohan, ed., Family Trees and the Roots of Politics (Woodbridge, Suffolk, 1997): 211-267.

Settipani (2000) = Christian Settipani, "Les vicomtes de Châteaudun et leur alliés", in Keats-Rohan & Settipani, eds., Onomastique et Parenté dans l'Occident médiéval (Oxford, 2000), 247-261.

Settipani (2004) = Christian Settipani, La Noblesse du Midi Carolingien (Prosopographia et Genealogica 5, 2004).

Werner (1958) = Karl Ferdinand Werner, "Untersuchungen zur Frühzeit des französischen Fürstentums (9.-10. Jahrhundert)", parts I-III, Die Welt als Geschichte 18 (1958): 256-289.

Werner (1967) = Karl Ferdinand Werner, "Die Nachkommen Karls des Großen bis um das Jahr 1000 (1.-8. Generation)", Karl der Große 4 (1967): 403-483.

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