Hugh de Venables, 10th Baron of Kinderton

Sir Hugh de Venables the younger, of Kinderton, a minor in 4 Edw II (1310/11), heir to his brother William, and died 41 Edw 3 (1367/8)

- George Ormerod's The History of County Palatine and City of Chester, Vol III, p. 199

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Sir Hugh de VENABLES Baron of Kinderton 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 was born 1298 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England. He died 1368 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.

Parents: Hugh de Venables (1246-1311) and Agatha de Vernon.

Hugh de Venables held the position of High Sheriff of Cheshire in 1378.

Married
1. Elizabeth de MOBBERLEY (1300-1326), daughter of William de Mobberley and Maud Downes, in 1320 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.
2. Katherine de HOUGHTON (1308-?), daughter of Richard de Houghton and Sybil de Lea, in 1327 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.

Elizabeth de Mobberly and Hugh de Venables had the following children:
M i William de VENABLES was born 1321 and died 1350.
M ii John de VENABLES was born 1323 and died 1360.
F iii Isabel de VENABLES was born 1326.

Katherine de Houghton and Hugh de Venables had the following children:
M i Hugh de VENABLES Baron of Kinderton was born 1328 and died 1383.
M ii Roger de VENABLES was born 1330 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.
M iii Thomas de VENABLES was born 1332 in
M iv Richard de VENABLES was born 1334 and died 1379.
F v Joan de VENABLES was born 1337.
F vi Margaret VENABLES was born 1342.

Book & Quoted Matter

• Farrer, William, ed. 1903. “Part II. Edward II. And Edward III. A.D. 1307 to A.D. 1377.” In Final Concords of the County of Lancaster from the Original Chronographs, or Feet of Fines Preserved in the Public Records Office. Vol. 46. London: Record Society of Lancashire and Cheshire. Archive.org, pp. 142-143.
  • “18. At Preston, on Monday the morrow of the Close of Easter, 4 Henry, Duke of Lancaster [21st April, 1354], and afterwards recorded on Monday the morrow of St. Margaret the Virgin in the said year [21st July, 1354].

“Between Peter Jerard and KATHERINE his wife, plaintiffs, and William Jerard and Joan his wife,[Fn] deforciants of a moiety of the manor of Wyndhull [Windle], and of a fourth part of the manor of Raynhull [Rainhill].
“William and Joan granted a third part of the said moiety and two parts of two parts of the said moiety, and the said fourth part, to Peter and KATHERINE; to have and to hold to them and to the heirs issuing of their bodies, of William and Joan and the heirs of Joan, rendering a rose by the year at the Nativity of St. John the Baptist for all service, custom and exaction. Moreover William and Joan granted that the third part of two parts of the said moiety, which HUGH DE VENABLES AND KATHERINE HIS WIFE held in dower of the said Katherine on the day this concord was made, after the decease of Katherine should remain to Peter and Katherine his wife, and to their heirs aforesaid, in default of their issue to remain to the issue of the said Peter, in default to revert to William and Joan and to the heirs of Joan, for which Peter and Katherine his wife gave them 100 marks.”

• ** Fn: “This and the following Fine, together with no. 90 of the 12 Edward III. (p. 108, supra), relate to the estates of the two important families of Burnhull and Windhull, which, after becoming united in the family of Burnhull by the marriage of Avice, daughter and heiress of Alan de Windhull, to Peter de Burnhull, about the end of the reign of Edward I., subsequently passed to the family of Gerard by marriage with the heiress of Burnhull. Sir Peter de Burnhull and Avice his wife had issue Peter, who died s.p. before the 7 Edward II., and Alan de Burnhull, who by charter dated at Wyndhull on the eve of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, 8 Edward II., 1315, confirmed to Ralph Banastre the grant of land in Rainhill which Sir Peter de Burnhull, father of the said Alan, made to the said Ralph (Dodsworth's MS., cxlii, fol. 228). Alan was the father of Peter de Burnhull, who married KATHERINE, daughter of Richard de Hoghton of Hoghton (who afterwards married HUGH DE VENABLES OF KINDERTON), but died without issue before the 4 Edward III., and two daughters:— Joan, who married William, son of William Gerard (see note, p. 109), and Agnes, who married David de Egerton, a younger brother of Philip de Egerton of Egerton, who died without issue before August, 1 383, when his wife's pourparty of the estates of Peter de Burnhull, her brother, devolved upon Thomas Gerard, grandson of William Gerard and Joan de Burnhull, elder sister of the said Agnes (Cf. Fine of 7 Regality, post). At the date of this Fine (A.D. 1354), the manor of Windle and a moiety of the manor of Rainhill were held in coparcenary by Joan and Agnes and their respective husbands, except the third part held by Katherine and Hugh de Venables of the dower of the said Katherine. Mention is made of these estates in the latter part of the note to Fine no. 154 (part i, p. 126).”

Links

• http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hwbradley/aqwg1304.htm#21403
• http://www.multiwords.de/genealogy/Ve20%20Joan%20Venables.html
• http://cybergata.com/roots/5219.htm
• http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id...

Notes

From George Ormerod's The History of County Palatine and City of Chester, Vol III, p. 199

Sir Hugh de Venables of Kinderton was a minor in 4 Edward II, was the heir of his elder brother William, the inquisition after his death took place in 41 Edward III. He first married Elizabeth, daughter of William and sister and coheiress of Sir Roger de Modburlegh, lord of Mobberley.

With Elizabeth, he his children were:

• • William de Venables, who died before his father, and married first to Agnes, daughter of sir Peter de Dutton of Warburyton, and second Maud, daughter of Richard de Vernon of Shipbrook, 16 Edward III, widow 24 Edward III.
• • John de Venables married Isabel daughter of Philip de Eggerton, and had issue, William, who, with his father, died in the lifetime of Sir Hugh.

Sir Hugh de Venables married Katherine, daughter of Richard de Houghton. Their children were:

• • Hugh de Venables, who succeeded his father as Baron of Kinderton
• • Roger de Venables, married Elizabeth, widow of Sir Randle le Roter and daughter and heiress of Sir William Golborne.
• • Joane de Venables wife of Thomas Lathom, lord of Lathom, Lancashire, and mother of Isabell, wife of Sir John de Stanley of Lathom.

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The Venables Family (sometimes 'de Venables') hail originally from the town of Venables near Evreux in Normandy, and it was Gilbert de Venables, (also known as Gilbert Hunter), huntsman to the Dukes of Normandy, who first held the Barony of Kinderton in Cheshire for Hugh Lupus after the Norman Invasion of 1066. Other family members became Barons of Chester and of Warrington, and over time Venables became a prominent Cheshire and Lancashire surname, as did the anglicised version of 'Hunter'. The Domesday Book of 1086 shows Gilbert 'Hunter' holding Brereton, Davenport, Kinderton and Witton (Northwich) and Ralph Hunter holding Stapleford in Cheshire and Soughton in Wales. Later the family became Lords of the Manor of Middlewich.

Wincham Hall, recorded as 'Winundersham' in the Domesday Book, was given to Gilbert de Venables following the Norman Conquest, but it successively passed in and out of the Venables family's ownership through inheritance, married and sale over the following centuries. It survived until bombing in the Second World War destroyed it, after which it was finally demolished.

The family's influence and power throughout medieval Cheshire is evidenced by the wreath on the Coat of Arms of the Borough of Congleton, which are the heraldic colours of the Venables family, as do the Arms of Northwich where the ship shown above the shield shows on its mainsail the wyvern of the Venables family.

They held many other lands throughout Britain including Woodcote near Winchester, when, in 1677, the manor had been purchased by the Venables. The Venables family also purchased Antrobus Hall in Great Budworth sometime during the reign of King Henry IV - they resided here for many generations.

The Venables Family have a worldwide website and there are regular Venables family conventions held in England and in France. The Middlewich Festival, held in September each year, also acts as a gathering of the Venables family members from around the world.

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Sources:

1. Earwaker, John Parsons, East Cheshire: Past and Present (London: Earwaker, 1877-80.), 1:51, 2:417, Los Angeles Public Library, Gen 942.71 E12 folio.
2. Ormerod, George, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (London: Lackington, Hughes, Mavor & Jones, 1819.), 1:523, 3:199, Family History Library, 942.71 H2or.
3. Richards, W. S. G., The History of the De Traffords of Trafford, circa A.D., 1000-1893 (Plymouth, England: W. H. Luke, 1896. FHL US/CAN Film #823,879 Item 1.), p. 28, Family History Library.
4. Baines, Edward, The History of the County Palatine and Duchy of Lancaster (Manchester, England: John Heywood, 1888-1893.), 3:348, Family History Library, 942.72 H2bai.
5. Young, Henry James, The Blackmans of Knight's Creek (Carlisle, PA : H. J. Young, 1980.), p. 85, Family History Library, 929.273 B565y.
6. Ormerod, G., History of the County Palatine of Chester, 1:416, 2:628, 3:24.
7. Bagley, John J., The Earls of Derby, 1485-1985 (London: Sidgwick & Jackson, 1985.), p. 1, Family History Library, 929.242 St25b.
8. Roskell, John Smith, The History of Parliament: The House of Commons 1386-1421 (Stroud, Gloucestershire: Alan Sutton Pub. Ltd., 1992.), 3:305, Family History Library, 942 D3hp 1386-1421.
9. Richardson, Douglas, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004.), p. 677, Family History Library, 942 D5rd.
10. "Pedigree of Davenport," NEHGR 9:2 (Apr 1855) (New England Historic, Genealogical Society.), p. 147, Los Angeles Public Library.

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Hugh de Venables held the position of High Sheriff of Cheshire in 1378 (KINDA HARD TO BE THE SHERIFF WHEN HE DIED IN 1368, ACCORDING TO THE BIO ABOVE!!!).

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The High Sheriff is the oldest secular office under the Crown. Formerly the High Sheriff was the principal law enforcement officer in the county but over the centuries most of the responsibilities associated with the post have been transferred elsewhere or are now defunct, so that its functions are now largely ceremonial. The High Sheriff changes every March.

An important natural resource of Cheshire was salt:
Below the surface of the county lie large deposits of saline rock, the presence of which may well have been known to the Romans. . . In the Middle Ages, the saltproducing towns were called, collectively, the Wiches, — Nantwich, Middlewich, Northwich. Mediaeval Cheshire, pp. 108-9. Large areas of salt lands were owned by abbeys and clerics, but: Lay owners of salt houses, where salt pans filled with salt water were boiled, were even more numerous and diverse in status. . . . Among the proprietors of salt houses, land, or messuages in the Wiches were Venables ... [and many other Cheshire families].

http://www.wallace-venable.name/Venable_Genealogy/Some_Venables_of_...

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Born: Kinderton, Chesire, England.

Married 1328 to Katherine Houghton. Died abt. 1368.

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ID: I34038 Name: Hugh de VENABLES , 7th Baron of Kinderton Surname: Venables Given Name: Hugh de Suffix: , 7th Baron of Kinderton Sex: M Birth: ABT. 1310 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England Death: 1353 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England 1 Burial: Sheriff of Chester Ancestral File #: 9G56-QD Reference Number: 1750 _UID: 2728152F940BD711A0D886BA646EE94FDC62 Note:

HISTORY OF CHESHIRE, NORTHWICH HUNDRED
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SIR HUGH A MINOR 4 EDW 2 HEIR TO HIS FATHER AND BROTHER WILLIAM
OBIT 41 EDW 3 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
Change Date: 22 Jan 2009 at 18:45:48

Father: Hugh de VENABLES , 6th Baron of Kinderton b: ABT 1273 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England Mother: Agatha De VERNON b: ABT. 1280 in Shipbrook, Northwich, Cheshire, England

Marriage 1 Katherine de HOUGHTON b: ABT. 1310 in Lea Hall, Preston, Lancashire, England Married: ABT 1338
Children Has Children Hugh de VENABLES , 8th Baron of Kinderton b: ABT. 1330 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England Has No Children Margaret de VENABLES b: ABT. 1342 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England Has No Children Thomas De VENABLES b: ABT 1334 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England Has Children Joane De VENABLES b: ABT 1328 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England Has No Children Roger de VENABLES b: ABT 1332 in Kindereton, Cheshire, England Has No Children Richard VENABLES b: 1336 in Kindereton, Cheshire, England Has No Children VENABLES b: ABT 1324 in Kinderton, Midddlewich, Cheshire, England Has No Children Alice VENABLES b: ABT 1330

Marriage 2 Elizabeth MOBBERLEY b: ABT. 1317 in Mobberley, Bucklow, Cheshire, England Children Has No Children John De VENABLES b: ABT 1337 in Kindereton, Cheshire, England Has No Children William De VENABLES b: ABT 1335 in Kindereton, Cheshire, England Has Children Rose De VENABLES b: 1310 in Kindereton, Cheshire, England Has No Children William De VENABLES adopted b: ABT 1340 in Kindereton, Cheshire, England Has No Children Angella (Anyll) VENABLES 1 wife b: ABT 1375 in Kinderton, Midddlewich, Cheshire, England

Sources: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, addition s by Walter Lee Shippard Jr. Page: 57 Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, addition s by Walter Lee Shippard Jr. Page: 57-33 Title: Ancestral File (TM) Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Publication: June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998

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