Helen de Strathearn

Helen of Strathearn

• Father: Malise OF STRATHEARN b: Bet 1275 and 1280
• Mother: Joanna MENTEITH b: in Scotland

Marriage

1. Sir Reginald LE CHEYNE Married: Bef 1353
2. David (Sir) GRAHAM b: in Scotland Married: Aft 7 Oct 1353 in (date of dispensation; they were related in the fourth degree) 3

Children of 1st husband

1. Reginald le Cheyne b: ABT 1345 in of Duffus Castle, Morayshire, England
2. Mariot le CHEYNE b: ABT 1348 in of Duffus Castle, Morayshire, England

Children of 2nd husband

1. Patrick GRAHAM b: in Scotland
2. David GRAHAM b: in Scotland
3. John GRAHAM b: in Scotland
4. Elizabeth GRAHAM b: in Scotland

Notes

Although John Ravilious stated that Andrew MacEwen found chronoloical problems (not specified), if Helen was Joanna's daughter, I believe that the chornology fits better with her being Joanna's daugh Mother 1 2

From soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Note: Source Medium: Internet Page: 2/14/2007

Text: "There is the question as to his maternal grandmother: I hold she was Joanna de Menteith, 2nd wife of Malise, Earl of Strathearn. This would at least provide a near explanation for Joanna's daughter Helen of Strathearn (wife successively of Reginald le Cheyne, the father, and of Sir David de Graham) being named for Helen de Menteith, sister of Joanna and wife of Sir Colin Campbell of Lochow (d. bef May 1343)."

From Cheyne. "An Ancient Scottish Family" at http://www.rootsweb.com/~cheyne/

Text: "Reginald, the third, married Helen, daughter of Malise, 7th Earl of Strathern. By this time the family had vast land holdings. As stated above, he was taken prisoner by the English in May 1296 there to remain until his release in 1299. He took no part in political activities until after his father's death. After which, he was a devoted patriot, fighting on the side of the Bruce cause. He signed the Declaration of Arbroath in 1320. He died in 1345 leaving two daughters. The daughters married into the Sutherland and Keith families and with them transferring the lands to those two families. " Transcribed by Hamish Maclaren

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   Page: 11/9/2005 - POSTING BY JOHN RAVILIOUS

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Links

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