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About Hadwide, de Namur
ALBERT, son of ROBERT [I] Comte de Namur & his wife --- (-shortly before 1011)
m (990) ERMENGARDE, daughter of CHARLES Duke of Lower Lotharingia [Carolingian] & wife Adelais de Troyes ([970/75]-after 1013).
Comte Albert I & his wife had [six] children:
3. HADWIDE de Namur ([1005/10]-28 Jan [1080]). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Hadewidem et Emmam de Los" as the two daughters of "Ermengardis [fili%C3%A6 Karoli ducis]" and as mother of "Theodericum ducem et Gerardum comitem fratres"[54]. It is likely that Hedwig was born during that latter part of the married life of her parents, given her own death in [1080] and her father's death before 1010. The Liber Memoriales of Remiremont records the donation of "Haduydis ducissa…consentientibus filiis suis duce Teoderico atque comite Girardo"[55]. "Hadewidis ductrix" founded the abbey of Châtenois by charter dated to after 1075, confirmed "post obitum ductricis Hadewidis" by "dux Theodericus filius eius"[56]. https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm#Godefroidied1139
m GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia, son of GERHARD Graf & his wife Gisela --- (-Remiremont [14 Apr] or 11 Aug [1070])
- THIERRY (-30 Dec 1115)
- GERARD (-1108, bur Belval)
- GISELE (->c1114)
- BEATRIX (-c1116/17)
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LORRAINE.htm#Gerarddied1070B
Curator Ben M. Angel Notes
On this person and on several others, limiting the birth and death location to just the modern equivalents serves to remove information about this person. In many cases, where modern information is placed in without any historical reference, it turns out to be dead wrong (i.e., the birth of someone of European ancestry in a New England town before the town is founded, sometimes before Europeans even landed in that part of the New World).
Although simply changing back "minimized names" that have been placed with such insufficient information (for cosmetic purposes at the expense of research value) has served to help with double-checking the accuracy of the names being placed, restoring every other day is frankly starting to get old and not really serving that purpose anymore. As a result, I'll start to keep a list of these extended place names on my home computer with the intent of quickly restoring the information once I've noted that the profile has been changed.
To those who are changing place names to modern equivalents only, I ask you to stop. Your efforts are hindering research. As a curator, I'm not a person that believes in locking profiles, as this effort is a collaboration. But you are erasing researched information in your effort to simplify displays. Please feel free to maintain a minimal display on your own private trees offline. Here, the extended place names are needed.
The following dates and places are saved for quick reference and restoration:
Birth: circa 1025
Nomurcum (Present Namur), Lomacensis (within the present Walloon Region), Herzogtum Niederlothringen (within present Belgium), Heiliges Römisches Reich
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Heiliges_R%C3%B6...
Death: circa 1070 (45)
Namur, Grafschaft Namur (within the present Walloon Region), Herzogtum Niederlothringen (within present Belgium), Heiliges Römisches Reich
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafschaft_Namur
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Gerard, Duke of Lorraine
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
He was married to Hedwige of Namur (or of Flanders), daughter of Albert I, Count of Namur, and Ermengarde, daughter of Charles, Duke of Lower Lorraine. This marriage helped patch up relations with the baronage. They had the following issue:
- 1. Thierry II (c.1055-1115), successor in Lorraine
- 2. Gerard (1057-1108), count of Vaudémont
- 3. Beatrice, married Stephen I, Count of Burgundy, Mâcon, and Vienne
- 4. Gisela, abbess of Remiremont
Father Albert I of Namur, b. 975, Lorraine, France
Mother Ermengarde of Lorraine, b. 975, Lorraine, France
Family Gerhard IV of Lorraine, b. 1010, Alsace, France
Comte Albert I & his wife had [six] children:
3. HADWIDE de Namur ([1005/10]-28 Jan [1080]). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Hadewidem et Emmam de Los" as the two daughters of "Ermengardis [fili%C3%A6 Karoli ducis]" and as mother of "Theodericum ducem et Gerardum comitem fratres"[54]. It is likely that Hedwig was born during that latter part of the married life of her parents, given her own death in [1080] and her father's death before 1010. The Liber Memoriales of Remiremont records the donation of "Haduydis ducissa…consentientibus filiis suis duce Teoderico atque comite Girardo"[55]. "Hadewidis ductrix" founded the abbey of Châtenois by charter dated to after 1075, confirmed "post obitum ductricis Hadewidis" by "dux Theodericus filius eius"[56]. m GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia, son of GERHARD Graf & his wife Gisela --- (-Remiremont [14 Apr] or 11 Aug [1070]).
Hadwide, de Namur's Timeline
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March 6, 1044
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between 1044 and 1055, Herzogtum Lotharingen, Heiliges Römisches Reich (within present France)
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1057
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Lorraine, Alsace-Champagne-Ardenne-Lorraine, France
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Lorraine, France
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1067
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Vaudemont, Meurthe-et-Moselle, France
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Nomurcum (Present Namur), Lomacensis (within the present Walloon Region), Herzogtum Niederlothringen (within present Belgium), Heiliges Römisches Reich
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