GAUTHIER [II], Comte de Brienne
s/o ERARD [I] Comte de Brienne & Alix de Montdidier (-<1161)
x ? NN
xx [repudiated <1147]) HUMBELINE de Baudémont
1 [AGNES (c1122/25- >c1191])
2 GUY
3 EUSTACHE (->1133)
4 ERARD [II] (-8 Feb [1190/91])
5 EUSTACHE (-1166 or >)
6 ANDRE (-killed in battle Acre Oct 1189)
7 JEAN
8 MARIE
9 ELVIDE (-1202 or >)
xxx< 1147 ADELAIS

GAUTHIER [II] de Brienne, son of ERARD [I] Comte de Brienne & his wife Alix de Montdidier (-before 1161). "Airardus Breonensis comes…et comitem Barrensem Milonem fratrem suum" are named in a charter dated [1125 or before], in which "Walterii nepotis sui filii Airardi defuncti comitis" is named, clarifying that his father was then deceased[50]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comitem Brenensem Galterum et sororem eius Felicitatem" as children of "Erardus…comes Brenensis" & his wife[51]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Galterum comitem eiusdem loci et sororem eius nomine Felicitatem" as children of "Aerardo comiti Briennensi" & his wife, specifying that "Galterus comes genuit Aerardum comitem et Andream atque Mariam castellanam de Sancto Otmaro cum aliis liberis"[52]. He succeeded his father as Comte de Brienne. Seigneur de Ramerupt. He founded the abbey of Bassefontaine with his mother in 1143[53]. "Walterus Brenensis comes" granted "decimam reddituum suorum de Brena Castello" to the abbey of Basse-Fontaine by charter dated 22 Jan 1143, subscribed by "Airardi filii sui, Andree filii sui, Marie filie sue…Johannis de Brena clerici…Guidonis fratris comitis"[54]. He took part in the Second Crusade in 1147[55].

[m firstly ---. This possible first marriage is indicated only by one possible interpretation of the charter dated 1174 under which the bishop of Troyes confirmed his judgment relating to "villa de Prait" which names "comitum de Brena Herardum" and is witnessed by "Andreas frater comitis, Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio"[56]. As discussed more fully below under Comte Gauthier [II]’s wife Humbeline, this document could mean that Erard de Chacenay was related to Erard [II] Comte de Brienne through Humbeline’s possible first marriage. If that is correct, Comte Gauthier’s daughter Agnes, married to Jacques de Chacenay, must have been born from an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage of her father. As noted below, the more likely interpretation of the 1174 document is that Erard de Chacenay was nepos of Erard [II] because he was the son of the latter’s sister.]

m [firstly/secondly] ([repudiated before 1147]) HUMBELINE de Baudémont, daughter of ANDRE de Baudémont Seneschal de Champagne & his wife Agnes --- (-1166 or after). A charter dated 1138 notes that "Galterum Brennensem comitem" donated property to the hospitals of Chalette and Brienne with the consent of "uxoris sue Hubeline"[57]. Her parentage is confirmed by the charter dated 1144 under which "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre" (although the names of the brothers-in-law are reversed in this document)[58]. [It is possible that Humbeline married firstly Anseric [II] Seigneur de Chacenay. This possible first marriage is suggested by one interpretation of the charter dated 1174 which records a dispute involving her son "comitem de Brenna Herardum" which was witnessed by “Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio”[59]. What supports this possible interpretation is that the wife of Anseric [II] was named Humbeline, as shown by the charter dated 22 Feb 1119 under which "Ansericus de Cacennaco…uxoris Hubeline…filio meo Jacobo" donated property to the abbey of Molesme[60]. Another interesting observation is that the sister of Humbeline de Baudémont married Hugues Seigneur de Montréal, the possible brother of Anséric [II], duplicate brothers/sisters marriages being relatively frequent at the time. However, there are two problems with this possible interpretation of the 1174 document. Firstly, a chronological difficulty is suggested by the birth of Humbeline’s son by her supposed first marriage before 1119, Anseric’s death in 1137, and the supposed birth of several children by her second marriage before 1147. Secondly, the more natural interpretation of the 1174 document is that Erard de Chacenay was nepos of Erard de Brienne because he was the son of the latter’s sister. As discussed in more detail below, this latter interpretation also best explains another charter dated 1146 as well as the introduction of the name Erard into the family of the seigneurs de Chacenay. If that second interpretation is correct, there were two different individuals named Humbeline, one married to Anseric de Chacenay and the other to Gauthier de Brienne.] "Matris mee" is recorded as present in the charter dated 1166 of "Erardus Brenensis comes"[61]. "E Brenensium comes" donated property to Basse-Fontaine "matre mea mediante actum fuisse" by charter dated 1166[62]. Neither charter names the mother of Comte Erard, but they show that she survived her husband. Gauthier must therefore have repudiated Humbeline before his marriage to Adelais, who is named in a charter dated 1147 as his wife (see below).

m [secondly/thirdly] (before 1147) ADELAIS, daughter of ---. "G comes Brene" donated property to "ecclesie Sancte Marie de Rameruco" with the consent of "uxoris Adelisis, Erardi, Andreæ filium meorum atque Marie filie mee" by charter dated 1147[63]. "Walterus comes Brenensis" made donations to the priory of Jully-les-Nonnains with the consent of "Adelaidis uxor suæ et filiorum meorum Arardi et Andree et filiarum mearum Marie et Helvidis" by charter dated [1150][64].

Comte Gauthier [II] & his [first/second] wife had nine children [this document assumes that Humbeline was the mother of all of Gauthier’s children, in line with the most natural interpretation of the various charters which are quoted here. If Humbeline was the same person as the widow of Anseric [II] Seigneur de Chacenay, several of the older children shown here must have been born from Gauthier’s first marriage.]:

1. [AGNES ([1122/25]-after [1191]). "Jacobus dominus de Cachennai", with the consent of "Agnetis uxoris mee", made donations to Basse-Fontaine on the suggestion of "Galteri Brenensium comitis et matris, uxoris eius, domine Agnetis de Baldimento et domine mee A Brenensium comitisse" by charter dated 1146[65]. The parentage of the wife of Jacques Seigneur de Chacenay is suggested by this document dated 1146. It is also indicated by the charter dated 1174 under which the bishop of Troyes confirmed his judgment relating to "villa de Prait" which names her supposed brother "comitum de Brena Herardum" and is witnessed by "Andreas frater comitis, Erardus nepos eius de Chacenaio"[66]. One of the interpretations of this document is that "Erardus nepos eius [=of Erard [II] Comte de Brienne] de Chacenaio" was the nephew of Comte Erard because he was the son of his sister. Another possible interpretation of the 1174 document, as explained in more detail above, is that Erard de Chacenay was "nepos" of Erard [II] Comte de Brienne because of a relationship through the latter’s mother, Humbeline de Baudément, wife of Gauthier [II] Comte de Brienne. In that case, Agnes must have been born from an otherwise unrecorded first marriage of her father. However, this alternative interpretation does not satisfactorily explain the charter dated 1146 nor the entry of the name "Erard" into the Chacenay family after Agnes’s marriage, which certainly suggests that Agnes belonged to the family of the comtes de Brienne. If Agnes’s parentage is correctly shown in the present document, she must have been one of her parents’ oldest children. "Agnes domina de Chacennaio…filiis suis Thoma et Ayrardo" made donations to the abbey of Mores by charter dated 1158, confirmed by "Henricus…Trecensis episcopus"[67]. "Agnes domine de Cachenanaio", with the consent of her unnamed children, made donations to Basse-Fontaine for the soul of "domini mei Jacobi…filius meus Erardus…quando perrexit Jerosolimam" by charter dated to [1179/83], witnessed by "Johannes dominus Cachanaii…Henricus de Cachennais et filius eius Johannes"[68]. Her possible second marriage is suggested by the charter dated to [1179/83] under which "Agnes domine de Cachenanaio", with the consent of her unnamed children, made donations to Basse-Fontaine for the soul of "domini mei Jacobi…filius meus Erardus…quando perrexit Jerosolimam", witnessed by "Johannes dominus Cachanaii…"[69]. It is clear that "Jean seigneur de Chacenay" could not have been one of Agnes’s children by her first marriage. One possible explanation of the charter is therefore that he was Agnes’s second husband, enjoying the title by right of his wife. The testament of "Agnes…domina Cacenaii", dated to [1191] and made "coram…filiarum mearum M[argareta] domina Chanlotis et H. domina de Durnai", bequeathed land "apud Lusigniacum et apud Montem Susanum", previously held by "Jacobus filius domini Erardi Cacensi", to "filie mee M[argarete] domine Chanlotis", and property "apud Taneileres" to "filie domini H[ugonis] Vendopere" by charter dated to [1191][70]. m [firstly] (before 1138) JACQUES Seigneur de Chacenay, son of ANSERIC [II] Seigneur de Chacenay & his wife Humbeline --- (-[1152/58]). [m secondly JEAN, son of ---. Seigneur de Chacenay[, de iure uxoris]. 1166/1183.]
2. GUY de Brienne . "Comes Brinie…et uxor eius et filii eorum Guido et Eustachius" approved the donation by "Lethericus de Baudimonto" to the Templars at Provins, by charter dated 1133[71]. 1143.
3. EUSTACHE de Brienne (-after 1133). "Comes Brinie…et uxor eius et filii eorum Guido et Eustachius" approved the donation by "Lethericus de Baudimonto" to the Templars at Provins, by charter dated 1133[72]. He presumably died young. He must have been a different person from Eustache, brother of Erard [II] Comte de Brienne, who is shown below, as the second Eustache’s name appears after that of Erard in the charter dated 1166, indicating presumably that he was a younger brother.
4. ERARD [II] de Brienne (-8 Feb [1190/91]). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Aerardum comitem et Andream atque Mariam castellanam de Sancto Otmaro cum aliis liberis" as children of "Galterus comes"[73]. He succeeded his father in [1161] as Comte de Brienne.
5. EUSTACHE de Brienne (-1166 or after). "Robertus de Mastoil" donated property to Basse-Fontaine by charter dated 1166 witnessed by "Airaldus Brenensium comes, Eustacius et Andreas fratres eius, vicecomes Odo"[74]. According to Europäische Stammtafeln[75], Eustache was possible ancestor of the Seigneurs de Conflans.
6. ANDRE de Brienne (-killed in battle Acre Oct 1189). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Aerardum comitem et Andream atque Mariam castellanam de Sancto Otmaro cum aliis liberis" as children of "Galterus comes"[76]. Seigneur de Ramerupt.
7. JEAN de Brienne . "Johannis de Brena clerici" subscribed the charter dated 22 Jan 1143 of "Walterus Brenensis comes", although no relationship between the two is specified in the document[77]. Abbot of Beaulieu 1157/1192. "Johannis fratris mei" is recorded as present in the charter dated 1166 of "Erardus Brenensis comes"[78]. "Joannes frater meus abbas Belliloci" witnessed the donation by "Erardus Brenensium comes…Agnetis uxoris mee et Galterii filii mei" under charter dated 1185[79]. "Johannes frater meus abbas Belliloci" witnessed the donation of "Erardus Brenensium comes" to Basse-Fontaine by charter dated 1186[80].
8. MARIE de Brienne . "Walterus Brenensis comes" granted "decimam reddituum suorum de Brena Castello" to the abbey of Basse-Fontaine by charter dated 22 Jan 1143, subscribed by "Airardi filii sui, Andree filii sui, Marie filie sue…Johannis de Brena clerici…Guidonis fratris comitis"[81]. "G comes Brene" donated property to "ecclesie Sancte Marie de Rameruco" with the consent of "uxoris Adelisis, Erardi, Andreæ filium meorum atque Marie filie mee" by charter dated 1147[82]. "Walterus comes Brenensis" made donations to the priory of Jully-les-Nonnains with the consent of "Adelaidis uxor suæ et filiorum meorum Arardi et Andree et filiarum mearum Marie et Helvidis" by charter dated [1150][83]. The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Aerardum comitem et Andream atque Mariam castellanam de Sancto Otmaro cum aliis liberis" as children of "Galterus comes"[84]. Marie’s husband is not named in this source. However, Gauthier was châtelain de Saint-Omer at the time of the marriage, and the wife of his brother and successor Guillaume is recorded as Mathilde. m ([1150/52]%29 as his first wife, GAUTHIER de Fauquemberghes Châtelain de Saint-Omer, son of GUILLAUME [II] Châtelain de Saint-Omer & his wife Mélisende de Picquigny (-1174).
9. ELVIDE de Brienne (-1202 or after). "Walterus comes Brenensis" made donations to the priory of Jully-les-Nonnains with the consent of "Adelaidis uxor suæ et filiorum meorum Arardi et Andree et filiarum mearum Marie et Helvidis" by charter dated [1150][85]. same person as…? ELVIDE (-1202 or after). The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. m BARTHELEMY Seigneur de Vignory, son of GUY [V] de Vignory & his wife Tiphaine --- (-Acre 1190).

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The New Count of Brienne, Walter II (1125 - 1161) and his Marriage Alliances

From Ismail, Dana Celest Asmoui. A History of the Counts of Brienne (950 – 1210) (2013) < PDF >

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The House of Baudemont

Contrary to the suggestion by the authors of the Europäische Stamtafeln (commonly regarded as the authoritative source on the genealogies of the great families of Europe) that Walter married four times, he married only twice. His first wife was Humbeline (sometimes called Adelaide), the daughter of Andrew of Baudement seneschal of Champagne who journeyed to the Holy Land at least on two occasions.

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In a charter dated 1133, Walter stood as witness to a grant gift that his father - in - law, Andrew, made to the Knights Templar. 21 In this charter, Walter is noted as having been with his wife and this woman, who was not cited by name, was likely Humbeline. 22 Walter and Humbeline’s daughter Agnès wed James, lord of Chacenay. ... Walter and Humbeline also had two sons, Guy and Eustace. 28 Guy, who would have been the heir to the county of Brienne, disappeared from record after 1143 and Eustace, the next in line to inherit, is absent from the extant charters for twenty - three years. 29 Guy may have died shortly after his last appearance in 1143, or he may have left his patrimony, either willingly or by force, once his father remarried. Eustace’s role in the county is also ambiguous as once his father remarried, the titles of Brienne and Ramerupt were granted to the children of his second marriage. ... Humbeline, countess of Brienne, likely died in 1138 shortly after she stood witness to a gift granted by her husband to the bishop of Châlons.

Children of of Walter II, Comte de Brienne and Humbleline:

1. Agnes, married Jacques, lord of Chaceray
2. Guy de Brienne, d. bt 1133 - 1158
3. Eustace de Brienne, b 1133, d. a 1165

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The House of Soissons

Walter’s second marriage was to Adélaide of Soissons soon after Humbeline’s death. 32 Adélaide was the daughter of John, count of Soissons, who was the great - grandson of Richard I, duke of Normandy, John’s grandfather having been Richard’s bastard son. 33 Unlike the previous marriage, there survives strong charter evidence in support of this union and perhaps more importantly, to confirm the suggestion that this was Walter’s second and final marriage.

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During eight or nine years of marriage, Adélaide gave Walter three sons for certain and possibly two daughters. 64 The eldest son of this marriage would usurp the patrimony of Walter’s eldest sons from his previous marriage and become Erard II, count of Brienne upon his father’s death. His brother, Andrew, would become count of Ramerupt. Both whom would be acknowledged by chroniclers of the Third Crusade, one praised and noted for his courage and virtue, the other a blemish upon the honour of the dynasty of Brienne. A future son, John, would go on to become abbot of Beaulieu. 65 A daughter, Marie, would disappear from record after 1152. And yet another daughter would marry Barthélemy, lord of Vignory, a crusader who died along with his brother Guy of Vignory, at the siege of Acre in 1191. 66

Children of Walter II, Comte de Brienne and Adelaide:

1. Erard II, Comte de Brienne, d. 8 Feb 1191. Married Agnes de Montfaucon.
2. Jean de Brienne. Abbot of Beaulieu between 1156 and 1192.
3. Andre de Brienne, Sire de Ramerupt+1 d. 14 Oct 1189. Married Adele, Dame de Venisy.
4. Marie de Brienne, married Guillaume III, Castellan of St. Omer.
5. daughter, married Barthélemy, lord of Vignory

• 32 Although this second wife’s name is not mentioned until 1146, her children, Erard, Andrew and Marie are mentioned in a charter dated 22 January 1143. Therefore, Walter likely married her shortly after Humbeline’s death in 1138 as within a span of five years, he had three children by Adélaide and they are present as witnesses to this charter [CACB, 40].
• 38 According to the ES, Walter married a Humbeline of Troyes in 1137 and Adelais, daughter of the widow of Andrew of Baudement [ES, III, 681].
• 64. Erard, future count of Brienne, and his brother Andrew, along with their sister, Marie, are first mentioned in a charter whereby they witness their father approve the rights of the abbey of Bassefontaine [CACB, 41]. John, abbot of Beaulieu, does not make an appearance in the charters until his brother’s tenure as count [CACB, 60].

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Genealogy

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GAUTHIER [II] de Brienne, son of ERARD [I] Comte de Brienne & his wife Alix de Montdidier (-before 1161). "Airardus Breonensis comes…et comitem Barrensem Milonem fratrem suum" are named in a charter dated [1125 or before], in which "Walterii nepotis sui filii Airardi defuncti comitis" is named, clarifying that his father was then deceased[50]. ...

[m firstly ---. This possible first marriage is indicated only by one possible interpretation of the charter dated 1174 ...

m [firstly/secondly] ([repudiated before 1147]) HUMBELINE de Baudémont, daughter of ANDRE de Baudémont Seneschal de Champagne & his wife Agnes --- (-1166 or after). A charter dated 1138 notes that "Galterum Brennensem comitem" donated property to the hospitals of Chalette and Brienne with the consent of "uxoris sue Hubeline"[57]. ... Neither charter names the mother of Comte Erard, but they show that she survived her husband. Gauthier must therefore have repudiated Humbeline before his marriage to Adelais, who is named in a charter dated 1147 as his wife (see below).

m [secondly/thirdly] (before 1147) ADELAIS, daughter of ---. "G comes Brene" donated property to "ecclesie Sancte Marie de Rameruco" with the consent of "uxoris Adelisis, Erardi, Andreæ filium meorum atque Marie filie mee" by charter dated 1147[63]. "Walterus comes Brenensis" made donations to the priory of Jully-les-Nonnains with the consent of "Adelaidis uxor suæ et filiorum meorum Arardi et Andree et filiarum mearum Marie et Helvidis" by charter dated [1150][64].

Comte Gauthier [II] & his [first/second] wife had nine children [this document assumes that Humbeline was the mother of all of Gauthier’s children, in line with the most natural interpretation of the various charters which are quoted here. If Humbeline was the same person as the widow of Anseric [II] Seigneur de Chacenay, several of the older children shown here must have been born from Gauthier’s first marriage.]:

• 1. [AGNES ([1122/25]-after [1191]). ... m [firstly] (before 1138) JACQUES Seigneur de Chacenay, son of ANSERIC [II] Seigneur de Chacenay & his wife Humbeline --- (-[1152/58]). [m secondly JEAN, son of ---. Seigneur de Chacenay[, de iure uxoris]. 1166/1183.]
• 2. GUY de Brienne . "Comes Brinie…et uxor eius et filii eorum Guido et Eustachius" approved the donation by "Lethericus de Baudimonto" to the Templars at Provins, by charter dated 1133[71]. 1143.
• 3. EUSTACHE de Brienne (-after 1133). "Comes Brinie…et uxor eius et filii eorum Guido et Eustachius" approved the donation by "Lethericus de Baudimonto" to the Templars at Provins, by charter dated 1133[72]. He presumably died young. ...
• 4. ERARD [II] de Brienne (-8 Feb [1190/91]). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Aerardum comitem et Andream atque Mariam castellanam de Sancto Otmaro cum aliis liberis" as children of "Galterus comes"[73]. He succeeded his father in [1161] as Comte de Brienne. - m (before 1166) AGNES de Montbéliard, daughter of AMEDEE de Montfaucon Comte de Montbéliard & his first wife Beatrix -([1150/55]-23 Oct -, after 1186). see below.
• 5. EUSTACHE de Brienne (-1166 or after). ... Eustache was possible ancestor of the Seigneurs de Conflans.
• 6. ANDRE de Brienne (-killed in battle Acre Oct 1189). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Aerardum comitem et Andream atque Mariam castellanam de Sancto Otmaro cum aliis liberis" as children of "Galterus comes"[76]. Seigneur de Ramerupt. - SEIGNEURS de RAMERUPT. m (before 1167) as her first husband, ADELAIS de Venisy
• 7. JEAN de Brienne . "Johannis de Brena clerici" subscribed the charter dated 22 Jan 1143 of "Walterus Brenensis comes", although no relationship between the two is specified in the document[77]. ...
• 8. MARIE de Brienne . ... m ([1150/52]%29 as his first wife, GAUTHIER de Fauquemberghes Châtelain de Saint-Omer, son of GUILLAUME [II] Châtelain de Saint-Omer & his wife Mélisende de Picquigny (-1174).
• 9. ELVIDE de Brienne (-1202 or after). ELVIDE (-1202 or after). The primary source which confirms her marriage has not yet been identified. m BARTHELEMY Seigneur de Vignory, son of GUY [V] de Vignory & his wife Tiphaine --- (-Acre 1190).

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Biography

Gauthier was born after 1095, the son of Crusader Erard I, comte de Brienne, and Alix, dame de Ramerupt. He married five times. His first marriage was to Humbeline (given by some sources as Adélaide) de Baudement, daughter of André de Baudement, seigneur de Baudement et Braine, and Agnès, dame de Braine. His second marriage was to (Adèle) de Soissons, who may have been the daughter of Jean I de Soissons and Aveline de Pierrefonds. Gauthier then married a lady of the de Nesle family, and, after her death in 1137, he married Humbeline de Troyes, widow of Anséric II, sire de Chacenay. Finally in 1146 he married a lady called Adélais. He had at least nine children, of whom André, Erard II, Elwide and Mahaud-Alix would have progeny. There is some uncertainty about the precise identity of the mothers of Gauthier's children. _Europäische Stammtafeln_ attributes the above four to his first wife, but other sources attribute André and Erard II to his second wife (Adèle) de Soissons.

In 1141 Gauthier was summoned by the childless Renaud III, comte de Soissons, presumably to assist or act as witness as he decided his succession. Renaud transferred the county of Soissons to Ives II de Nesle and became a monk.

After the foundation of the abbey of Basse Fontaine in Brienne-la-Vieille in 1143, Gauthier made many gifts to it, of goods, lands and dependencies. He joined the Second Crusade in 1147, he died before 1156 in the Holy Land.

Gautier II de Brienne Origem: Wikipédia, a enciclopédia livre. http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gautier_II_de_Brienne

Gautier II de Brienne (1110 — 1161) foi conde de Brienne e senhor de Ramerupt. Tomou a Cruz (1147).

Participou na Segunda Cruzada em 1147 com a corte do rei Luís VII de França.

Foi filho de Érard I de Brienne (1090 - 1120) e de Alix de Ramerupt (? - 1143), filha de André de Ramerupt, conde de Ramerupt (1040 -?) e de Adelaide (c. 1040 - 1062).

Casou por quatros vezes. O primeiro casamento foi com Humbeline de Baudement de quem teve:

1.Inês de Brienne casada por duas vezes, a primeira com Jacques de Chacenay, Senhor de Chacenay e a segunda com João de Mont-Saint-Jean, Senhor de Salmaise.

O segundo casamento foi com Adelaide de Soissons (? — 1137), filha de Jean I de Soissons, conde de Soissons e de (1085 - 1110) e de Aveline de Pierrefonds, de quem teve:

1.Erard II de Brienne, conde de Brienne, casou com Inês de Montfaucon, filha de Guilherme III de Nevers, conde de Nevers (1110 - 21 de Novembro de 1161) e de Ide de Sponheim. 2.André de Brienne, Senhor de Rameru casou com Adélaïs de Venisy. 3.Guy de Brienne (? — 1143). 4.Eustache de Brienne. 5.Jean de Brienne (? — 1191) foi abade de Beaulieu em 1158. 6.Maria de Brienne. 7.Adélais de Brienne. 8.Félicité de Brienne. 9.Elvide de Brienne casada com Barthelmy seigneur de Vignory. 10.Mahaud-Alix de Brienne casada com Foulques II de Choiseul, Senhor de Choiseul.

O terceiro casamento foi com Humbelina de Troyes de quem não teve filhos e o quarto com Adélaïs de Nesle, de quem teve:

1.Matilde de Brienne casada com Guilherme de Saint-Omer. 2.Helvide de Brienne casada com Bartolomu de Vignory. 3.Adelais de Brienne.

Walter II, Comte de Brienne was the son of Erard I, Comte de Brienne.1 He married Humbleline (?)1 He married Adeliz de Baudemont, daughter of Andre de Baudemont, Seigneur de Braine-sur-Vesle.1 He died circa 1158.1

He gained the title of Sire de Ramerupt.1 He succeeded as the Comte de Brienne after 1125.1 He fought in the Second Crusade between 1147 and 1152.1

Children of Walter II, Comte de Brienne and Humbleline (?)

1. Erard II, Comte de Brienne+1 d. 8 Feb 1191
2. Guy de Brienne1 d. bt 1133 - 1158
3. Jean de Brienne1
4. Andre de Brienne, Sire de Ramerupt+1 d. 14 Oct 1189
5. Marie de Brienne2
6. Eustace de Brienne2 b. b 1133, d. a 1165

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Gauthier's wives and children in Charters

Humbeline is alive in 1138:
A charter dated 1138 notes that "Galterum Brennensem comitem" donated property to the hospitals of Chalette and Brienne with the consent of "uxoris sue Hubeline"

his wife Hubeline

22 January 1143 charter with only Children
"Walterus Brenensis comes" granted "decimam reddituum suorum de Brena Castello" to the abbey of Basse-Fontaine by charter dated 22 Jan 1143, subscribed by "Airardi filii sui, Andree filii sui, Marie filie sue…Johannis de Brena clerici…Guidonis fratris comitis"

Airard his son, Andrew his son, Marie his daughter [no mother mentioned]

Humbeline appears still to be alive in 1144:
A charter dated 1144 under which "Aelidis uxor Widonis domini de Brana post mortem viri sui…Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of "patre eorum Andrea de Baldimento et matre eorum Agnetis et ipsorum fratre Waleranno Vrsicampi abbate et sororibus eorum Helwide et Hubelina et earum maritis Waltero comiti de Brienna et Guidone de Dampierre"

Aelid, wife of Lord Widon of Bran after the death of her husband...Guidonis" donated "census…Branæ castri et Branellæ villæ" to the Premonstré abbey, with the consent of their father Andrea de Baldimento and their mother Agnetis and their brother Waleranno the abbot of Vrsicampi and their sisters Helwide and Hubelina and their husbands Walter the Count of Brienne and Guy de Dampierre.

The first reference to Adelais as Gauthier's wife is in 1147
"G comes Brene" donated property to ecclesie Sancte Marie de Rameruco" "uxoris Adelisis, Erardi, Andreæ filium meorum atque Marie filie mee" by charter dated 1147

with the consent of "my wife Adelis, Erard, my son Andrew, and my daughter Marie"

The second reference to Adelais as Gauthier's wife is in c1150
"Walterus comes Brenensis" made donations to the priory of Jully-les-Nonnains with the consent of "Adelaidis uxor suæ et filiorum meorum Arardi et Andree et filiarum mearum Marie et Helvidis" by charter dated [1150].

"Adelaide my own wife and of my sons Arard and Andrea and of my daughters Marie and Helvid"

• https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/nfralaoncou.htm#HumbelineBaudement...
• https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chambrien.htm

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Origins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erard_I,_Count_of_Brienne

Érard I, Count of Brienne (c. 1060–1114) was Count of Brienne at the end of the 11th century. He was the son of Walter I of Brienne, count of Brienne, and his wife Eustachie of Tonnerre (Eustachie de Tonnerre [fr]).[1]

In 1110 he married Alix of Roucy-Ramerupt,[1] daughter of André de Montdidier-Roucy, seigneur de Ramerupt and son of Hilduin IV, Count of Montdidier. They had:

• Walter II of Brienne, count of Brienne and lord of Ramerupt.[1] Father of Érard II.
• Guy of Brienne[1]
• Félicité of Brienne (Félicité de Brienne [fr]), who married Simon I of Broyes (Simon Ier de Broyes [fr] ), then in 1142 Geoffroy III, sire de Joinville (Geoffroy III de Joinville [fr] ).[1]

Source: Perry, Guy (2018). The Briennes: The Rise and Fall of a Champenois Dynasty in the Age of the Crusades, c. 950-1356. Cambridge University Press. Table 1: The early Briennes, c.950-1191.

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References

1. Perry, Guy. The Briennes: The Rise and Fall of a Champenois Dynasty in the Age of the Crusades, c. 950-1356. United Kingdom: Cambridge University Press, 2018. < GoogleBooks >
2. http://thepeerage.com/p11993.htm#i119925
   1. [S8] BP1999 volume 1, page 226. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S8]
   2. [S8] BP1999. [S8]
3. A History of the Counts of Brienne (950 – 1210) by Dana Celest Asmoui Ismail. Royal Holloway, University of London (2013) Doctor of Philosophy thesis.< PDF >
4. Jotischky, Andrew. 2015. “Guy Perry, John of Brienne. King of Jerusalem, Emperor of Constantinople c.1175–1237. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2013. Pp. Xiv, 221. ISBN 978 1 10704 310 7.” Crusades 14 (1): 248–50. doi:10.1080/28327861.2015.12220374. " ... Crusading was a Brienne family tradition. John's father Count Erard II had taken part in the Second Crusade with his own father [Walter ll of Brienne] and died in 191 at Acre. .."
5. http://genealogy.euweb.cz/brienne/brienne1.html C2. Cte Evrard I de Brienne, went on Crusade ca 1097, +1114/25; m.Alix, dau.of Andre de Montdidier, sn de Ramerupt D1. Cte Gautier II de Brienne, sn de Ramerupt, took the cross 1147, +ca 1161; 1m: N, a dau.of Andre de Baudement; 2m: N de Soissons, probably dau.of Cte Jean de Soissons; 3m: 1137 Humbeline de Troyes; 4m: 1146 Adelais N
6. https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00028300&tree=LEO cites
   1. [S00104] Turton, Lt.Col. W. H., The Plantagenet Ancestry, Baltimore, 1975 .n 206
   2. [S00301] Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), ~Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg. 3:681
   3. [S01322] Veth, Drs. Arie, Kwartierstaten compiled during WWII in the office of De Nederlandsche Leeuw .