Erneburg NN

(Curator Note: the profile Erneburg FitzHugh (FitzBaldric) previously attached to Robert II has been detach.)

from Early Yorkshire Charters pg 2-3 "Documentary evidence is available to prove that Robert de Stuteville II had a wife named Erneburga, by whom he was the father of Robert de Stuteville III! There is no evidence, however, to prove her parentage. Dugdale in his Baronage. made no suggestion. Banks asserted that she was daughter and heir to Hugh son of Baldric whom he described erroneously as 'a great Saxon thane." This cannot be accepted.

On the one hand the fact that Robert de Stuteville I held a large proportion of the Domesday tenures of Hugh son of Baldric disproves any suggestion that his son should have become possessed of them by marriage with a daughter of Hugh ; and on the other hand, although Hugh son of Baldric had a daughter who married Guy de Craon, the Craon family appear to have inherited none of Hugh's property except certain holdings in Lincolnshire and Hampshire, which were held by Guy of Hugh at the Domesday survey after his marriage had taken place,1 thus suggesting that Hugh son of Baldric's holdings did not pass by inheritance subsequently to 1086.1

Another suggestion was made by Farrer that Erneburga was a daughter of Geoffrey Murdac and sister of Juliana who married Thurstan de Montfort ; but that again cannot be supported.' It will be suggested in the account of the Estoutevilles of Valmont in §7 that Nicholas d'Estouteville, the founder of the abbey of Valmont, was the eldest son of Robert de Stuteville II, and that, although the latter may have had an earlier wife, there is no reason to assume that Nicholas was not his son by his wife Erneburga.

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from FMG/MEDLANDS

ERNEBURG, daughter of ---. Her marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which her son "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona", for the souls of "Roberti de Stutevilla avi mei et Roberti patris mei et Erneburgæ matris meæ et Helewisæ uxoris meæ"[268].

[268] Rievaulx, XLIII, p. 21. ————————————

ROBERT [II] d’Estouteville, son of ROBERT [I] d’Estouteville & his wife Béatrice --- (-after Aug 1138). The Liber Vitæ of Durham names "Robertus de Stuteville, Beatrix uxor eius, Robertus, Graulfus, Willelmus filii eorum…"[262]. Domesday Descendants suggests that these entries refer to Robert [I] de Stuteville and his family[263]. Orderic Vitalis names "…Rodbertus juvenis de Stotevilla…" among those who defended the castle of Saint-Pierre-sur-Dive and were captured, dated to [1106][264]. Simeon of Durham names "…Robertus de Stuthavilla…" among the leaders of the English contingent at the battle of the Standard (dated to Aug 1138)[265].

[m firstly (before 1106) JEANNE Talbot, daughter of [HUGUES Talbot Baron de Cleuville & his wife Marie de Meulan]. Morandière states that "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" married "avant le désastre de Tinchebray…Jehanne Talebot heritière de l’aisné des surnommés Talebot, barons de Cleuville", naming her grandfather "Richard Talebot…compagnon de son voisin Grondebœuf à Hastings" but not her father, adding that she died early leaving a son "Nicholas d’Estouteville"[266]. La Roque names Jeanne as older daughter of the parents named above and records her marriage[267]. The primary sources which confirms this information have not been identified. Until such sources emerge, it is suggested that these supposed persons should be treated with caution.]

m [secondly] ERNEBURG, daughter of ---. Her marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which her son "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona", for the souls of "Roberti de Stutevilla avi mei et Roberti patris mei et Erneburgæ matris meæ et Helewisæ uxoris meæ"[268].

Robert [II] & his [first wife] had [one child]: 1. [NICOLAS [I] d’Estouteville (-22 Apr 1177). Morandière names "Nicholas d’Estouteville" as the son of "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" and his first wife "Jehanne Talebot" but does not cite the corresponding primary source[269]. Père Anselme names "Nicolas I sire d’Estouteville et de Vallemont, baron de Cleuville" as the oldest son of Robert [II] d’Estouteville without naming his mother, and without citing a primary source[270].]

Robert [II] & his [second] wife had [nine] children: 2. ROBERT [III] d’Estouteville (-1183). "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona", for the souls of "Roberti de Stutevilla avi mei et Roberti patris mei et Erneburgæ matris meæ et Helewisæ uxoris meæ", with the consent of "Willelmi filii mei et aliorum filiorum meorum", by undated charter witnessed by "…Johanne de Stutevilla, Nicholao de Stutevilla, Rogero de Stutevilla, Bartholomæo de Stutevilla…"[271]. King Henry II confirmed “manerium de Leestune...et Uptonam...et [revenue from] terra de Selfleta” to “Ranulfo de Glamvilla” by undated charter, witnessed by “Ricardo de Luci, Hugone de Cressi, Roberto de Stutevill, Rogero de Stutevill, Willielmo de Stutevill”[272].

3. [RICHARD d’Estouteville . Morandière names "Robert, Richard, Osmond, Patrick, Jean et Eustache" as the sons of "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" and his [second] wife Erneburg, adding that "ils nous sont donnés par les généalogies anglaises" but without citing the corresponding primary sources[273]. Père Anselme records that "Eustache et Richard d’Etouteville, s’établirent en Angleterre" and that they were the two younger sons of Robert [II] d’Estouteville without naming their mother, and without citing a primary source[274].]

4. [ROGER d’Estouteville . King Henry II confirmed “manerium de Leestune...et Uptonam...et [revenue from] terra de Selfleta” to “Ranulfo de Glamvilla” by undated charter, witnessed by “Ricardo de Luci, Hugone de Cressi, Roberto de Stutevill, Rogero de Stutevill, Willielmo de Stutevill”[275]. No indication has been found of the identity of Roger d’Estouteville. Until more primary source material emerges, he is shown he as a possible brother of Robert [III]. If, in line with one possibility which is indicated below, the witness William de Stuteville was the son of Robert [III], Roger could have been an otherwise unrecorded older son.]

5. [WILLIAM d’Estouteville (-after [1172]). The Red Book of the Exchequer records enfeoffments in the duchy of Normandy in [1172], "Willemus de Stuteville" with one knight "de feodo de Dodeavulle…in baillia Willelmi de Malepalet"[276]. [King Henry II confirmed “manerium de Leestune...et Uptonam...et [revenue from] terra de Selfleta” to “Ranulfo de Glamvilla” by undated charter, witnessed by “Ricardo de Luci, Hugone de Cressi, Roberto de Stutevill, Rogero de Stutevill, Willielmo de Stutevill”[277]. The witness William de Stuteville could have been the same William who is named in [1172]. Alternatively, he could have been Robert [III] de Stuteville’s son.] m EMMA, daughter of ---.]

6. [OSMOND d’Estouteville . Morandière names "Robert, Richard, Osmond, Patrick, Jean et Eustache" as the sons of "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" and his [second] wife Erneburg, adding that "ils nous sont donnés par les généalogies anglaises" but without citing the corresponding primary sources[278].]

7. [PATRICK d’Estouteville . Morandière names "Robert, Richard, Osmond, Patrick, Jean et Eustache" as the sons of "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" and his [second] wife Erneburg, adding that "ils nous sont donnés par les généalogies anglaises" but without citing the corresponding primary sources[279].]

8. JOHN d’Estouteville (-after 1166). Morandière names "Robert, Richard, Osmond, Patrick, Jean et Eustache" as the sons of "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" and his [second] wife Erneburg, adding that "ils nous sont donnés par les généalogies anglaises" but without citing the corresponding primary sources[280]. The Thorney Liber Vitæ records John as son of Robert [II] d’Estouteville and his wife Eremburg, and his wife Agnes[281]. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Johannes de Stuteville" held "ix carucatas terræ in Cheteleby et in Hollewelle et in Herdeby et in Hevintone" from "Galfridi Ridel" in Northamptonshire[282]. m AGNES, daughter of ---. The Thorney Liber Vitæ records John as son of Robert [II] d’Estouteville and his wife Eremburg, and his wife Agnes[283]. Domesday Descendants suggests that she was "probably daughter of Waleran, son of Hugh and Matilda"[284]. John & his wife had two children:

    a)         JOHN de Stuteville (-after [1160]).  "Gaufridus Ridel" granted various properties in the counties of Leicester, Rutland and Northampton to "Johanni fratri meo" by charter dated to [1160], witnessed by "…Radulfus Basset, Richardus Basset, W. Basset…Hugo Ridel…" and which notes that "ipse Johannes filius Johannis" swore homage to the grantor and gave him a gold ring[285].  William Reedy assumes that "Johanni fratri meo" was the grantor’s brother-in-law John de Stuteville[286].  This appears to be confimed as correct by the undated charter under which "Gaufridus Ridel" confirmed that "Johanni de Stutevilla" did homage to him by on the same day, witnessed by "…Radulfus Basset, Ricardus Basset, W. Basset…R. de Stutevill, Nicolaus de Stutevill…"[287].  "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona" by undated charter witnessed by "…Johanne de Stutevilla, Nicholao de Stutevilla, Rogero de Stutevilla, Bartholomæo de Stutevilla…"[288].  m MATILDA Basset, daughter of RICHARD Basset & his wife Matilda Ridel.  Her parentage and marriage are indicated by the charter date to [1160] under which [her brother] "Gaufridus Ridel" granted various properties in the counties of Leicester, Rutland and Northampton to "Johanni fratri meo", which notes that "ipse Johannes filius Johannis" swore homage to the grantor and gave him a gold ring[289]. 

b) ROGER de Stuteville (-after [1183/84]). Domesday Descendants names "John and Roger" as the sons of John d’Estouteville[290]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Rogerus de Stoteville xxxvii s vi d de militibus quos habet de feodo Adæ de Brus" in Yorkshire in [1171/72][291]. The 1169/70 Pipe Roll records "Roger de Stutevill" in Northumberland[292]. The 1173/74 Pipe Roll records "Roger de Stutevill" in Northumberland[293]. The 1174/75 Pipe Roll records "Roger de Stutteville" in Northumberland and “rebuilding the mill burned at Colebrige by the Scots war”[294]. The 1176/77 Pipe Roll records "Roger de Stuteville" in Northumberland[295]. The Liber Vitæ of Durham lists (in order) "Rogerus de Stutewille et uxor eius, Anselmus filius eius"[296]. "Robertus de Stutevilla" confirmed donations to Rievaulx of "terram de Houetona" by undated charter witnessed by "…Johanne de Stutevilla, Nicholao de Stutevilla, Rogero de Stutevilla, Bartholomæo de Stutevilla…"[297]. The 1183/84 Pipe Roll records "Roger de Stuteville" rendering his account in Northumberland “in lands granted to the K. of Scotland, 10 l in Tindale”[298]. m ---. The name of Roger’s wife is not known. Roger & his wife had one child:
i) ANSELM de Stuteville . The Liber Vitæ of Durham lists (in order) "Rogerus de Stutewille et uxor eius, Anselmus filius eius"[299].
9. [EUSTACHE d’Estouteville . Morandière names "Robert, Richard, Osmond, Patrick, Jean et Eustache" as the sons of "Robert II le jeune d’Estouteville" and his [second] wife Erneburg, adding that "ils nous sont donnés par les généalogies anglaises" but without citing the corresponding primary sources[300]. Père Anselme records that "Eustache et Richard d’Etouteville, s’établirent en Angleterre" and that they were the two younger sons of Robert [II] d’Estouteville without naming their mother, and without citing a primary source[301].]

10. --- d’Estouteville . Domesday Descendants records that "Robert de Daville" married a daughter of Robert [II] d’Estouteville as his first wife (marrying secondly Juliana de Montfort)[302]. m as his first wife, ROBERT de Daville, son of ---.

11. [BURGA [de Stuteville] (-after 1166). Domesday Descendants names "Burga de Stuteville" as the wife of William Pantulf, but does not cite the primary source which confirms her family origin[303]. If this affiliation is correct, the chronology suggests that Burga was the daughter of Robert [II] d’Estouteville and his second wife, named after her mother. Hubert Archbishop of Canterbury confirmed donations to Langley Nunnery, Leicestershire made by “Willielmus Pantulf…de Bredun”, and including other donations made by “…Burgæ quondam uxoris Willielmi Pantulf de Bredun”, by undated charter[304]. "William Pantulf of Samella, his wife Burga and his three sons William, Roger and Philip" donated "the land of Samella" to Saint-André de Gouffern by charter dated 1166, witnessed by "Willelmus Bastardus filius meus…"[305]. m WILLIAM [II] Pantulf, son of [IVO Pantulf & his [second] wife Alice de Verdun] (-after 1166).] ————————————-

This person has been previously identified as Erneburg daughter of Hugh fitzBaldric, however there is no evidence to support this. She is not mentioned in either source below.

Hugh fitzBaldric From Wikipedia, the free Hugh fitzBaldric (sometimes Hugh FitzBaldric or Hugh fitz Baldric) was a Norman nobleman and royal official in England after the Norman Conquest of England.

Hugh first appears in the historical record around 1067 when he was the witness to a charter of Gerold de Roumara.[1]

Hugh held the office of Sheriff of Yorkshire from 1069 to around 1080, succeeding William Malet in that office.[1].....

Citations ^ Keats-Rohan Domesday People pp. 267–268 ^ Sanders English Baronies p. 37 Keats-Rohan, K. S. B. (1999). Domesday People: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066–1166: Domesday Book. Ipswich, UK: Boydell Press. ISBN 0-85115-722-X. Sanders, I. J. (1960). English Baronies: A Study of Their Origin and Descent 1086–1327. Oxford, UK: Clarendon Press. OCLC 931660.