Engelbert II de Brienne, Comte de Brienne

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Engelbert III de Brienne (né vers 960 - † après 1008), est comte de Brienne à la fin du Xe siècle et au début du XIe siècle. Il est le fils d'Engelbert II de Brienne, deuxième comte de Brienne connu[1] /!\ . .. ...

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ENGELBERT [II] [de Brienne], son of --- . His existence is confirmed by the charter dated to [1027] under which "Ingelbertus…comes" donated property to Montiérender naming "quondam Ingelbertus comes predecessor noster"[7]. The dating suggests that the earlier Engelbert must have been a different person from Engelbert [I] (see above). This source does not specify that Engelbert's predecessor was his father. Comte de Brienne. 1004/08.

m firstly WANDALMODIS, daughter of --- Comte & his wife Adela de Salins. A manuscript genealogy, dated to the early 12th century, records "Letaldus comes Vesoncius et Umbertus comes Marisconensis fratres", adding "ex Umberto, Adala comitissa, ex Adala Windesmodis soror matris vestræ non german, ex Windesmode Ingelbertus et Witdo de Upione"[8].

m secondly as her second husband, ALIX de Sens, widow of GEOFFROY de Joigny, daughter of RENARD [I] Comte de Sens & his wife ---. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to the wife of "comes de Brena super Albam Engelbertus" as "comitissam Ioviniaci viduam de primo marito"[9]. She died before her husband, as the same passage refers to her son-in-law inheriting Joigny after her death and subsequently building the first castle of Joinville with the help of his father-in-law. The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified.

 Comte Engelbert [II] & his first wife had two children:

• 1. ENGELBERT [III] de Brienne (-1035 or after). .. ... - see below.
• 2. GUY de la Pione . .. ... ...
  m ---. The name of Guy's wife is not known. Guy & his wife had two children:
  • a) LETAUD . ..
  • b) GAUTHIER de Ciresio . ..
    m ---. The name of Gauthier's wife is not known. Gauthier & his wife had two children:
    • i) GUY . ..
    • ii) THIBAUT . .. ...

  Comte Engelbert [II] & his second wife had one child:

• 3. daughter . .. ... ....

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Born about 0975 [location unknown] Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown] [sibling unknown]

Engilbert III, Comte de Brienne1

M, #119929, b. circa 970, d. after 1008

Last Edited=29 Apr 2004

    Engilbert III, Comte de Brienne was born circa 970.1 He was the son of Engilbert II, Comte de Brienne and Adele (?).1 He married, firstly, Windismodis (?), daughter of Humbert II, Seigneur de Salins.1 He married, secondly, Aeiis (?), daughter of Renard, Comte de Sens.1 He died after 1008.1

Engilbert III, Comte de Brienne succeeded to the title of Comte de Brienne after 987.1
Child of Engilbert III, Comte de Brienne and Aeiis (?)

unknown daughter (?)1

Children of Engilbert III, Comte de Brienne and Windismodis (?)

Guy (?)+1

Engilbert IV, Comte de Brienne+1 b. 995, d. a 1031

Citations

[S8] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 226. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition.

Counts of Brienne

Engelbert III

Engelbert IV

Walter I (? – c. 1090)

Erard I (c. 1090 – c. 1120?)

Walter II (c. 1120? – c. 1161)

Erard II (c. 1161 – 1191)

Walter III (1191–1205)

Walter IV (1205–1246)

John (1246 – c. 1260)

Hugh (c. 1260–1296)

Walter V (1296–1311)

Walter VI (1311–1356)

Isabella (1356–1360) with her son:

Sohier of Enghien (1356–1364)

Walter VII (1364–1381)

Louis of Enghien (1381–1394)

Marguerite of Enghien (1394–1397) with her husband:

John, Lord of Beauvoir (1394–1397)

Peter I, comte de St-Pol (1397–1433)

Louis I, comte de St-Pol (1433–1475)

Peter II, comte de St-Pol (1475–1481)

Anthony I, comte de Ligny (1481–1519)

Charles, comte de Ligny (1519–1530)

Anthony II, comte de Ligny (1530–1557)

John, comte de Ligny (1557–1576)

Charles, duc de Brienne (1576–1608) (created duc de Brienne 1587; extinct on his death)

Louise, comtesse de Brienne (1608–1647)

Louise de Béon (1647–?) with her husband:

Henri-Auguste de Loménie, comte de Brienne (1647–1666)

Louis Henri de Loménie, comte de Brienne (1666–1698)

Nicholas de Loménie, comte de Brienne (1698–1758)

Louis Marie Athenase de Loménie, comte de Brienne (1758–1794)

 Engilbert III, Comte de Brienne was born circa 970.1 He was the son of Engilbert II, Comte de Brienne and Adele (?).1 He married, firstly, Windismodis (?), daughter of Humbert II, Seigneur de Salins.1 He married, secondly, Aeiis (?), daughter of Renard, Comte de Sens.1 He died after 1008.1

    Engilbert III, Comte de Brienne succeeded to the title of Comte de Brienne after 987.1 Child of Engilbert III, Comte de Brienne and Aeiis (?)

* unknown daughter (?)1
Children of Engilbert III, Comte de Brienne and Windismodis (?)

   * Guy (?)+1

   * Engilbert IV, Comte de Brienne+1 b. 995, d. a 1031

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