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About Dea. William Throope
Not the son of Col. Adrian Scrope, Regicide of Charles I & Mary Scrope. Probably the son of William Throope & Izabell Throope
http://www.myheritage.com/dna-surname-project/Throop
This William Throope is believed to come from Nottinghamshire ENGLAND. Descendants of William and Isabell (Redshaw) Throope, parents of William Throope of Barnstable, will be welcomed to this project.
Biography
Laurel Logan, August 3, 2008
William Throope was a surveyor of highways in 1683; selectman, 1689, grand-juryman, 1690, and representative in 1691. His will is found in Bristol County, MA, [records of Probate, bol2, pages 125-126].
"In the name and fear of God, Amen. I, William Throope, in Ye County of Bristol, yeoman, in the sixty-seventh year of my age and being under some indisposition of body, " etc.
There are bequests to three sons, Dan, John and William, two eldest daughters, Mary, wife of John Barney, and Elizabeth, wife of Jonathan Peck, "youngest son Thomas," "two younger daughters Mercy and Lidiah," "loving and well-beloved wife Mary Throope sole executrix." He mentions "the remaining service of two Indian boys which may be unexpired at my decease."
The will was marked signed 12 June 1704, but the heirs state in a petition to the Probate Court that the foregoing instrument was drawn abut five months before their father's death, and that although it was never signed, they are satisfied that it expresses the will of their father and they join in asking that it be admitted. This was signed by the heirs and widow and John Barney, Jonathan Peck, and Eleazer Carey, 1 January 1704, same records.
William Throop died on 4 December 1704 at Bristol, Massachusetts, USA.5
Family
William was born before 19 March 1637/1638 (ch at Sutton-cum-Lound, county Nottinghamshire, England. He was christened on 19 March 1637/38 at Sutton-cum-Lound, county Nottinghamshire, England.1,2 He was the son of William Throop and Isabell Redshaw.
He married Mary Chapman on 14 May 1666 at Barnstable, Barnstable, Massachusetts.3,4
Mary Chapman was born on 31 October 1643 at prob. Duxbury.1,2 She was the daughter of Ralph Chapman and Lydia Wells. She married William Throop on 14 May 1666 at Barnstable, Barnstable, Massachusetts.3,4 Mary died after 1705/6.4
Children of William Throop and Mary Chapman:
- Mercy Throop
- Mary Throop b. 6 Apr 1667
- Dan Throop+ b. 1670, d. 9 Dec 1737
- Elizabeth Throop b. 1670
- John Throop b. 1676
- William Throop b. 1678
- Thomas Throop b. 1681
- Lidiah Throop b. 15 Jul 1686
Origins
There is much discussion over the parentage of William. One faction claims he was the son of the Regicide Adrian Scroope while the other (the most likely) gives William Throope, York England, d. aft. 1669, m. 9 Jun 1636 Isabell Redshaw bur. 22 Jun 1658 as his parents. He was reported to have m. 7 Feb 1664/5 Elizabeth Cooke bur. 26 Jul 1669. This marriage took place before he left for America.
World Family Tree; Notes: Disk 18-2278
[Across Throup's Bridge], Malcolm Throup, Margaret Throup Lancaster, 1986
William Throope in his own words said 'he had just changed his name from Colonel Adrian Scroope'. He and Mary traveled into the New England interior by ox cart. He became Surveyor of Highways, Grand Juryman and Representative, finally dying in December 1704 aged 67, commencing his will "In the name and fear of God". A somewhat unusual wording. Three of his children were baptised (in the English Throope tradition), John, William and Thomas. This story is related in the New York Genealogical and Bibliographical Record 1905, vol 36, a lengthy article and an interesting account of American 'Throop' history. The writer must not have known of the marriage of William Throope to Elizabeth Cooke, or of other Nottinghamshire Throopes. In all fairness, the article was written in the era before Parish records were centralized and placed on microfilm. Perhaps with the aid of modern research facilities, a different conclusion might have been reached.
The above would not be complete without some elaboration on Col. Adrian Scroope. Col. Adrian, the regicide (signatory of the Death Warrant of Charles I) was executed in 1660, aged 58, as retribution for this deed, on the restoration of the English monarchy, without ever having left England's shores. Without any doubt, Col. Adrian Scroope, the regicide, and William Throope of New England could not possibly have been one and the same. Whatever connection they had in England, if any, will never by known.
Disk 1-267 Know as Deacon Throope
Disk 11-4139 WILLIAM THROOPE(ADRIAN SCROOPE) (1637-1704) -- William Throope, born and named Adrian Scroope, was the youngest son of Colonel Adrian Scroope, member of the English Parliament and one of the members who formed the High Court of Justice that tired and found guilty King Charles I of England and them imposed the death penalty on the King on January 30, 1649. Several years later, after Oliver Cromwell died, Sir Adrian and the other conspirators were put into prison. While there, Sir Adrian met with his sons, including William, and suggested that as he was certain to be executed for his role in the High Court of Justice, it might be that the conspirators sons would also be arrested. Thus, he cautioned that they leave England. As a result, William left England for the American Colonies, possibly traveling there via Leyden, Holland.
Once in the American Colonies, William changed his name from Adrian Scroope to William Throope, married in Barnstable, MA, had a family, and settled in Bristol, Rhode Island along with Nathaniel Blagrave, one of the regicides. William's sister Elizabeth had married Jothan Blagrave of Longworth, Buckinghamshire, England. In Bristol, William was a highway surveyor, selectman (in 1689), grandjuryman (in 1680 and 1690), and served as a representative to the Rhode Island Assembly in 1691.
It is interesting that William settled in Bristol. In 1649, his father was governor of Bristol Castle in England and other members of his family had settled in the town of Bristol, England.
World Family Tree; Notes: Disk 11-4139
MARY CHAPMAN (1643-1732) -- Mary Chapman, wife of William Throope, was the daughter of Ralph Chapman who arrived in the American colonies in 1635 on board the "Elizabeth," the next ship to come after the "Mayflower."
--Laurel Logan
https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/throop/263/
I am descended from a William Throop and a Mary Chapman.However, in researching my Throops I came across a note stating that, after much research,a man named Walter May Throop wrote a book called "The Throop Tree" (1971) which claimed that William Throop was actually Adrian Scrope.His father, also Adrian Scrope, was a regicide who was executed and so Adrian Jr. fled to the U.S. and changed his name.I have been unable to attain this book and was hoping that someone here might be able to guide me to it or simply let me know if they have ever heard anything about this. Thank you.
https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/throop/267/
I am updating The Throop Tree book and below is section regarding your query.If you want more, order my upcoming book.
Louise Walsh Throop, C.G., discussed this tradition in her article in The American Genealogist, "Proposed Etiology of the Throop-Scroope Tradition.She notes Winchester Fitch's heavy reliance on the tradition of"widely scattered descendants" of William and his citing of the witnessing of the two deeds in Hartford, Connecticut by a certain Adrian Scroope.
She further notes that this tradition was apparently either proposed or elaborated on by Capt. William Throop (b. 1700) grandson of the immigrant and recorded by his brother, Rev. Benjamin Throop.She suggests the possibility that Capt. William Throop misread some illegible family record about a "Lord Throope" as "Scroope" and Rev. Benjamin, apparently quite willing to share his vast store of knowledge, spread the story of descent from Lord Scroope to other family members.
Louise Walsh Throop concludes that in spite ofthe Hartford deed signing by Adrian Scroope and the long tradition in various branches of the family of descent from Scottish Lords, "no evidence has been found to connect him (Adrian Scroope) with the Bristol William Throope.
The Hartford deed:
Proposed Etiology of the Throope-Scroope Tradition. Louise Walsh Throop. 57 (1981):113-114. The American Genealogist. New Haven, CT: D. L. Jacobus, 1937-. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2009 - .) https://www.americanancestors.org/DB283/rd/12607/110/143306107
Citations
- [S88] NY Gen. & Biog. Rec., NY Gen & Bio. Soc. , v. 36 pg 124.
- [S82] TAG, Jacobus, Donald , vol 62 pg 54.
- [S49] Gen.Notes Barn. Fam., Otis, Amos , pg 151.
- [S170] NE Marriages Prior, Torrey, Clarence A. , pg 754.
- [S473] His will recorded in Probate Records V2 p125-6 Bristol
- [S474] Duxbury, Ma by Winsor pg 244;.
- [S49] Gen.Notes Barn. Fam., Otis, Amos , pg 151.
- [S49] Gen.Notes Barn. Fam., Otis, Amos , pg 151.
- [S170] NE Marriages Prior, Torrey, Clarence A. , pg 754
References
- Malcolm Throup and Margaret Throup Lancaster, “Across Throup’s Bridge”, 1986, The Moxon Press Ltd, Gillroyd Mills, Wide Lane, Morley LS27 8PY, a copy held by the St. Louis County Library, St. Louis, MO, pages 39-41.
- https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/69302908
- Source: #S207 Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=flhg-17thcentcolanci&h=176832...
- Source: #S34 Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1637Birth place: Gringley On The Hill, Nottinghamshire, EnglandResidence date: Residence place: EnglandBaptism date: 4 Mar 1637Baptism place: Gringley On The Hill, Nottinghamshire, England Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=bivri_englandbirth&h=2600695&...
- Source: #S126 Data: Text: Marriage date: 4 May 1666Marriage place: Barnstable, Mass. Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=amr-1699&h=8657&ti=0&indiv=tr...
- Source: #S319 Data: Text: Death date: 28 Mar 1696Death place: Rhode Island Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=rideath&h=261238&ti=0&indiv=t...
- Source: #S34 Data: Text: Birth date: abt 1637Birth place: Gringley On The Hill, Nottinghamshire, EnglandResidence date: Residence place: EnglandBaptism date: 4 Mar 1637Baptism place: Gringley On The Hill, Nottinghamshire, England Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=bivri_englandbirth&h=2600695&...
- Source: #S319 Data: Text: Death date: 28 Mar 1696Death place: Rhode Island Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=rideath&h=261238&ti=0&indiv=t...
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- The American Genealogist, Vol 57 (1981), pages 110-112.
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- Find A Grave Memorial# 7589027 [3]
- Source: #S126 Data: Text: Marriage date: 4 May 1666Marriage place: Barnstable, Mass. Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=amr-1699&h=8657&ti=0&indiv=tr...
- Source: #S20 Page: Source number: 429.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JRB. Data: Text: Birth date: 1643Birth place: MAMarriage date: 1666Marriage place: MA Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=223173&ti=0&in...
- Source: #S126 Data: Text: Marriage date: 4 May 1666Marriage place: Barnstable, Mass. Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=amr-1699&h=1745&ti=0&indiv=tr...
- Source: #S26 Page: Birth year: 1643; Birth city: Marshfield; Birth state: MA. Data: Text: Birth date: 1643Birth place: Marshfield, Plymouth, MADeath date: 1732Death place: Marriage date: 1666Marriage place: Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=genepool&h=5125150&ti=0&indiv...
- WikiTree profile Throope-21 created through the import of Paula's family 5-28-2011.GED on May 29, 2011 by Paula Marksman. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Paula and others.
- S-05 Title: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch ([5] : accessed 31 Aug 2013), William Throope, 19 Mar 1636.
- Source: S126 Author: Ancestry.com Title: American Marriages Before 1699 Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1997.Original data - Clemens, William Montgomery. American Marriage Records Before 1699. Pompton Lakes, NJ, USA: Biblio Co., 1926.Original data: Clemens, William Montgomery. American Marriag Repository: #R1 Record ID Number: MH:S126 User ID: EEEAF572-104B-40D1-A91C-47BA44C2203F
- Repository: R1 Name: Ancestry.com Address: [6] Record ID Number: MH:R1 User ID: B1696161-7A17-42E7-9EE7-1C83D3676BD5
- Source: S20 Author: Yates Publishing Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.Original data - This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived Repository: #R1 Record ID Number: MH:S20 User ID: 338789E1-0B25-4A52-A0EC-92F88E48D1D0
- Source: S207 Title: Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancestors, Vol. I Repository: #R1 Record ID Number: MH:S207 User ID: AAB79749-AE39-4AA7-8BDB-75F84E42A694
- Source: S26 Author: Edmund West, comp. Title: Family Data Collection - Individual Records Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Repository: #R1 Record ID Number: MH:S26 User ID: 71D5BDBF-8847-461F-BDC1-B9E1ABA99663
- Source: S3 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Repository: #R1 Note: This information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created. Record ID Number: MH:S3 User ID: 19CD43FD-56EB-4783-85E4-4D83608697C5 Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: [7]
- Source: S319 Author: Ancestry.com Title: Rhode Island Deaths, 1630-1930 Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000. Repository: #R1 Record ID Number: MH:S319 User ID: 5A8EE279-665D-4859-B01F-4C76F1522492 Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: [8]
- Source: S34 Author: Ancestry.com Title: England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.Original data - Genealogical Society of Utah. British Isles Vital Records Index, 2nd Edition. Salt Lake City, Utah: Intellectual Reserve, copyright 2002. Used by permission.Original dat Repository: #R1 Record ID Number: MH:S34 User ID: 928249C4-0CCA-42F2-A75A-E3F185AABEEE Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: [9]
- Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850 (Online Datebase), New England Historic Genealogical Society (2001-2008), Barnstable, Vol. 1, p. 63, Marriage record for William Troop and Mary Chapman.
- Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850 (Online Datebase), New England Historic Genealogical Society (2001-2008), Barnstable, Vol. 1, p. 63, Baptism for son Thomas Troop.
- The American Genealogist, New Haven, Connecticut: D. L. Jacobus, 1977, Vol. 53, p. 247, New England Historic Genealogical Society (Online Database) [10].
- Anderson, Robert Charles and others, The Great Migration: Immigrants to New England 1634-1635, Vol. II, C-F, Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society (2001), 53.
- The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, 1905, Vol. 36, pp. 124-125.
- Throop, Herbert D., Throop Genealogy: With Special Reference to the Throops of Grenville County, Ontario, Canada, Ottawa, Canada: Unknown (1931), 3, Heritage Quest (Digital Library) [11].
- Famous Kin [12]
- See Also: Space:The History of Bristol, R. I. p.79
- Proposed English origin of William Throop of Barnstable MA, by Louise Walsh Throop, C.G., The American Genealogist Vol 62 (1987), pages 53-54.
- http://www3.telus.net/throopgenealogy/t1.html (Dead link)
- http://www.tracycrocker.com/p55.htm (Dead link)
- https://familysearch.org/tree/person/LC59-MKC/details
- There is very little information on the family of Adrian Scrope, but Wikipedia does seem to provide the most extensive listing of his children (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Scrope). There is no Adrian II or William listed. There seems to have been no adverse effect on son and heir to Adrian, Thomas Scrope. That Adrian Scrope and his family still seemed to be held in high regard is evident in the fact that his body was returned to the family post execution and not posted to various locales, as were the other regicides.
- https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/7589027/william-throope
Dea. William Throope's Timeline
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March 19, 1636
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Sutton-cum-Lound, Nottinghamshire, England
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March 19, 1636
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Lound, , Nottinghamshire, England
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Lound, Nottinghamshire, England, United Kingdom
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March 19, 1636
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Lound, , Nottinghamshire, England
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April 6, 1667
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Barnstable, Plymouth Colony
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April 16, 1670
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Barnstable, Cape Cod, Plymouth Colony
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March 3, 1672
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Barnstable, Cape Cod, Plymouth Colony
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June 25, 1676
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Barnstable, Plymouth Colony
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1678
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Plymouth Colony, (Present USA)
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