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About Sir David "le Belward" ap William ap Dafydd, Knight, de Malpas
- Not the same as Dan David "le Clerk" de Malpas, Justice of Chester
- Disputed as father of Peter ‘le Clerc’, de Thornton
Darrell Wolcott: The "Malpas" Family in Cheshire – (Steven Ferry, April 19, 2020)
"The extant pedigrees all go awry following Dan David. He actually had no sons, only daughters. But he has been confused with an earlier "David ap William" in the family and assigned the family belonging to Dafydd of 1090 son of William II. This family should appear as" shown in the associated PDF in Sources.
Ancestorium Family Tree Collaboration David (Sir) "le Belward" ap William ap Dafydd
Sir David de MALPAS Knight (son of William le Belward) 1, 2, 3, 4 was born 1159 in Malpas, Cheshire, England. He married Catherine VAUGHAN on 1181 in Malpas, Cheshire, England.
Catherine VAUGHN (daughter of Owain Vaughn) 1 was born 1162 in Mylor, Cornwall, England. She married Sir David de MALPAS Knight on 1181 in Malpas, Cheshire, England.
They had the following children:
M i Sir William de MALPAS Knight was born 1182. Married Beatrice de Mohaut.
M ii Peter le CLERC was born 1185. Wife unknown
M iii David de MALPAS 1 was born 1188 in Malpas, Cheshire, England..
M iv Philip de EGERTON was born 1192. Married Katherine de HULTON
- David ap William ap David ap William ll was born about 1150. The name of his mother is not known.
- He was the father of William, born about 1180, who married Beatrix, daughter of Robert de Montalt.
- Not to be confused with Dan David "le Clerk" de Malpas, Justice of Chester
From The "Malpas" Family in Cheshire, by Darrell Wolcott
Pedigree Citation C. William ap David ap William ap David ap William II ap Sir William, born c. 1180, married Beatrix, daughter of Robert de Montalt, seneschal to the Earl of Chester.
2. Pedigree from Ormerod's History of Cheshire,
Neither David in this pedigree is the man called "le Clerk". The man at the top is David of c. 1150 ap William ap David ap William II ap Sir William.
The first William in the chart was born c. 1180 and did marry Beatrix, daughter of Robert de Montalt. This Robert de Montalt was descended from the family of seneschals who served the Earls of Chester, being born c. 1160 and the son of the elder Robert de Montalt, the latter being a son of Ralph fitz Norman.
Cited Sources
- Ormerod, George, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (London: Lackington, Hughes, Mavor & Jones, 1819.), 2:598.
- Ormerod, G., History of the County Palatine of Chester, 2:641.
- Ormerod, G., History of the County Palatine of Chester, 2:628.
- Wrottesley, George, Pedigrees from the Plea Rolls (London: Harrison, 1905, p. 137.
- Ormerod, "Barons of Malpas" pedigree.
ADDITIONAL NOTES
William, husband of Beatrix, has been noted as living in the reigns of Stephen and Henry II. This verifies the approximate birth year of William to be around 1030. Meanwhile Beatrix could be as young as having been born in the mid 1040’s. Although all of this fits with the generations prior to this one, there is a problem with the next generation as they are shown on pedigree charts and with the documentation we have for Sir David le clerk. Documentation tells us that David was a sheriff in 1252.
Other sources give the birth dates for this generation in the 1210 to 1220 time period. If the above is true and does seems to be accurately documented in several places, then Beatrix would easily be in her 50’s and William would be in his 80’s at the time of the births. Our first appraisal of this line seemed to suggest that there was a generation not accounted for.
After careful analysis and checking the documentation and searching for others, the generations as we have presented them work well on a timeline and fit the records that we are aware of. The records and documentation of Sir David’s generation, his children and their records seem in good order. The problem then appears to be between the generation of William and Beatrix and that of Sir David le Clerk’s generation. We believe that William and Beatrix did indeed have a David, but not David le Clerk. Their David was the father of Sir David le Clerk, making William and Beatrix the grand parents of Sir David and his siblings. Thus you will notice that another generation, namely David son of William and Beatirx has been added to the published genealogies.
“David, surnamed le Clerc, from his being secretary to the Earl of Chester, who was knighted and made Justice of Chester. David married Catherine*, daughter of Owain Vaghan*, and in turn had four sons: William his heir; Philip; David, who was the ancestor of the Golbournes, of Golbourne, in Lancashire; and Peter, from who descended, the le Roters, or Rutters, of Thornton-in-the Moors. William, the eldest son, married Margaret, daughter of Codogan de Lyntton, but having no legitimate descendant, he made his younger brother, Phillip, heir to his estates.”
References
- WikiTree contributors, "David Malpas (abt.1170-abt.1217)," WikiTree: The Free Family Tree, (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Malpas-29 : accessed 20 April 2025).
- “Malpas Barons in Cheshire” < link >
Sir David "le Belward" ap William ap Dafydd, Knight, de Malpas's Timeline
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Malpas, Cheshire, England
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1185
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Egerton, Cheshire, , England
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1188
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Malpas, Cheshire , England
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1209
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Malpas, Cheshire, England
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1217
Age 47
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Malpas, Cheshire, England
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Malpas, Cheshire, England
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