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About Billung I, Count of Thuringia
Count Billung, I, of Thüringen (Thuringia)
Adelais ([798]-after 810). "Adailhaidem, Atulam, Guntradam, Berthaidem ac Theoderadam" are named as daughters of Pippin by Einhard[628]. She was taken from Italy to the imperial court in 807[629]. same person as…? AEDA . The Carmen de Primordiis Cœnobii Gandersheimensis names the wife of "Liudulfus" as "Oda…Francorum…de stirpe potentum, filia Billungi…atque Aedæ"[630]. Her precise origin is mentioned in the charter dated 885 by which "Oda comitissa, Pipini regis Italiæ ex filia neptis, Hliudolfi Ducis vidua" founded Kloster Calbe an der Milde, although the accuracy of this document is not known[631]. m Billung, son of ---. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ITALY,%20Kings%20to%20962.htm#Pepin... Billung & his wife had one child:
a) ODA (-17 May 913). The Carmen de Primordiis Cœnobii Gandersheimensis names the wife of "Liudulfus" as "Oda…Francorum…de stirpe potentum, filia Billungi…atque Aedæ"[202]. "Oda comitissa, Pipini regis Italiæ ex filia neptis, Hliudolfi Ducis vidua" founded Kloster Calbe an der Milde, by charter dated 885[203]. "Arnolfus…rex" confirmed donations of his predecessor of land "in pago Nordthuringa dicto in comitatu Liudulfi in loco Uuanzleua" to Kloster Gandersheim naming "fideli costræ in sanctimoniali habitu constitutæ…Odæ" by an undated charter, placed in the compilation among charters dated [891/92], which names "filia eius Gerberga abbatissa"[204]. "Otto…rex" confirmed privileges to Kloster Gandersheim "avo illius Sigihardo comiti in pago Chiemihgovue in comitatu Sigihardi" to "comiti nostro Eberhart" by charter dated 4 May 947 in which he names "proavo nostro Liutulfo…et eius coniuge Oda…et avo nostro Ottone" recalling their involvement in the foundation of the monastery[205]. m LIUDOLF, son of [BRUN[HART & his wife ---] (-11 Mar 866, bur Brunshausen). http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#BillungMAeda. LIUDOLF, son of BRUNO & his wife --- (-11 Mar 866, bur Brunshausen). Brun was named as father of Liudolf in the early 13th century Gandersheimer Reimchronik[126], but no earlier source has so far been found which confirms the relationship. The Chronicon Hildesheimense records that Liudolf founded the abbey of Gandersheim in 852, first at Brunshausen[127]. Widukind records that "Liudulfus" transferred relics of Pope Innocent to Rome[128]. The Annales Alamannicorum record "Ludolfus dux Saxoniæ avus Heinrici" among those who swore allegiance in 864[129]. The Annales Xantenses record the death in 866 of "Liudolfus comes a septentrione"[130]. m ODA, daughter of BILLUNG princeps & his wife Aeda (-17 May 913). The Carmen de Primordiis Cœnobii Gandersheimensis names the wife of "Liudulfus" as "Oda…Francorum…de stirpe potentum, filia Billungi…atque Aedæ"[131]. "Oda comitissa, Pipini regis Italiæ ex filia neptis, Hliudolfi Ducis vidua" founded Kloster Calbe an der Milde, by charter dated 885[132]. "Arnolfus…rex" confirmed donations of his predecessor of land "in pago Nordthuringa dicto in comitatu Liudulfi in loco Uuanzleua" to Kloster Gandersheim naming "fideli costræ in sanctimoniali habitu constitutæ…Odæ" by an undated charter, placed in the compilation among charters dated [891/92], which names "filia eius Gerberga abbatissa"[133]. "Otto…rex" confirmed privileges to Kloster Gandersheim "avo illius Sigihardo comiti in pago Chiemihgovue in comitatu Sigihardi" to "comiti nostro Eberhart" by charter dated 4 May 947 in which he names "proavo nostro Liutulfo…et eius coniuge Oda…et avo nostro Ottone" recalling their involvement in the foundation of the monastery[134]. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B Liudolf & his wife had [twelve] children:
1. BRUNO (-killed in battle in Saxony 2 Feb 880). The Annalista Saxo records "Brunonis ducis" as brother of "Otto filius Liudolfi ducis"[135]. "Hludowicus…rex" granted immunities to Kloster Gandersheim, naming "Brun et Otto nostri fideles comites…[et] Liutolf genitor eorum…[et]…Gerbirg soror eorundem comitum" by charter dated 26 Jan 877[136]. The Annales Fuldenses name "Brun ducem et fratrem reginæ, Wicmannum, Bardonem, alterum Bardonem et tertium Bardonem, Thiotherium, Gerrichum, Liutolfum, Folcwartum, Avan, Thiotricum, Liutharium" as those killed in battle in 880 in Saxony against "Nordmannis"[137]. The Gesta Francorum lists "Brun ducem et fratrem reginæ" as one of the twelve counts who were killed fighting the Danes in 880[138]. Thietmar records that "Duke Bruno…great uncle" of Bruno Archbishop of Köln, was drowned in a flooded river on 2 Feb while on an expedition against the Danes[139]. The Erchanberti Breviarum records that "Ludovicus rex Franciæ" had one son "Hug…de concubina" who [in 880] fought the Vikings "cum Theoderico et Marcwardo…episcopis et Bardone fratre Liutkardæ reginæ"[140], "Bardone" presumably being an error for "Brunone", although this version appears to conflate two battles (one at the river Scheldt and one in Saxony) which are reported separately in the Annales Fuldenses. The Gesta Francorum lists "Bardonum…alterum Bardonum [et] tertium Bardonum" as three of the twelve counts who were killed fighting the Danes in 880[141]. The other two counts named "Bardo" or "Bruno" have not been identified. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B
2. OTTO "der Erlauchte" (-30 Nov 912[142], bur Gandersheim Stiftskirche). The Annalista Saxo records "Otto" as "filius Liudolfi ducis"[143]. Graf im Südthüringau. Graf im Eichsfeld 888. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B
- see below.
3. THANKMAR . Europäische Stammtafeln[144] names Thankmar as a son of Liudolf & his wife but the primary source which confirms this has not so far been identified. [Abbot of Corvey 877/79]. “Ludolphus comes” donated property “in Daelhem et in Adonhusen” to Corvey monastery “pro filio suo Tancmaro”[145]. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B
4. LIUTGARD (-17 or 30 Nov 885, bur Aschaffenburg). Widukind names "Liudgardam sororem Brunonis ac magni ducis Oddonis" as wife of "orientales Francos imperantium Hluthowicus"[146]. "Hludowicus…rex" made a donation of property in "villa…Winenheim" to Kloster Lorsch in the name of "comiti…Werinhario" by charter dated 4 Jan 877, naming "coniuge nostra Liutgarda"[147]. The necrology of Fulda records the death in 885 of "Liutgart regina"[148]. The death and burial place of "Liudgardis regina" are recorded in the Annalista Saxo[149]. m (before 29 Nov 874) LUDWIG, son of LUDWIG II "der Deutsche" King of the East Franks & his wife Emma [Welf] ([835]-Frankfurt-am-Main 20 Jan 882, bur Kloster Lorsch). He succeeded his father in 876 as LUDWIG III "der Jüngere" King of the East Franks, Saxony and ½ Lotharingia. King of Bavaria 879. King of Lotharingia 880. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B
5. ENDA . Europäische Stammtafeln[150] names Enda as a daughter of Liudolf & his wife, and her marriage, but the primary source which confirms this has not so far been identified. m ---. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B
6. HATHUMOD (840-29 Sep 874, bur Brunnshausen). The Chronicon Hildesheimense records that "Hathamodam eius ducis [Liudolfi] filiam" was was installed as first abbess of Gandersheim in 852, and that she died 18 years later[151]. Her life and death are recounted in the Vita et Obitus Hathamodæ[152]. Her death is recorded in the Annalista Saxo[153]. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B
7. GERBERGA (-5 Sep [896/97]). The Chronicon Hildesheimense records that "Gerbergam sororem [Hathamod%C3%A6]" succeeded her sister as second abbess of Gandersheim[154]. "Gerburgis" is named sister of "Hathumod"[155], whom she succeeded as Abbess of Gandersheim in 874[156]. "Hludowicus…rex" granted immunities to Kloster Gandersheim, naming "Brun et Otto nostril fideles comites…[et] Liutolf genitor eorum…[et]…Gerbirg soror eorundem comitum" by charter dated 26 Jan 877[157]. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B
8. CHRISTINA (-1 Apr [919/20], bur Gandersheim Stiftskirche). Thankmar records that "Sororem autem eius [=Gerburgis [et] Hathumod] Cristinam" entered Gandersheim, specifying that they were all daughters of "Oda"[158]. Abbess of Gandersheim 897-897. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B
9. daughter (-young). Europäische Stammtafeln[159] refers to an unnamed daughter of Liudolf & his wife who died young, but the primary source which confirms this has not so far been identified. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B
10. son (-young). Europäische Stammtafeln[160] refers to two or three unnamed sons of Liudolf & his wife who died young, but the primary source which confirms this has not so far been identified. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B
11. son (-young). Europäische Stammtafeln[161] refers to two or three unnamed sons of Liudolf & his wife who died young, but the primary source which confirms this has not so far been identified. http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B
12. [son (-young). Europäische Stammtafeln[162] refers to two or three unnamed sons of Liudolf & his wife who died young, but the primary source which confirms this has not so far been identified.] http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#Liudolfdied866B
[http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAROLINGIANS.htm#_Toc240955192]
Ben M. Angel notes: First, it's not Stubenskorn, but Stübeckshorn. Try and identify where Stubenskorn is on the map, any map, even ones from the 9th century.
Stübeckshorn, the one associated with Hermann Billung as his birth place, is now part of the German city of Soltau, within that city's Hoetzinger District:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%BCbeckshorn
Second, a lot of what passes for guides appears to have little or no attribution. There are exceptions; the German Wikipedia page for the Billunger has a very comprehensive description of the Billung family tree, both Older and Younger parts:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billunger
This follows fairly close to the FMG information for the Billungs, (with significant additional information in German from the Mittelalter Genealogie website). For FMG Medlands entries related to this family:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#_Toc155952301
This entry, for the Billung that straddles the 8th and 9th centuries, is for the Prince (Unknown) Billung, who married Aeda, daughter of Pepin I, King of Italy, and is father of Oda, wife of Liudolf and mother of the Liudolfinger family. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MERGE ANYONE FROM THE TENTH CENTURY WITH THIS PROFILE. That is a different Billung (the one that actually fathered Hermann Billung at Stubeckshorn). Thank you.
The following is unattributed information on the Billung family, some of which doesn't corroborate with source-backed information listed above in some area (I'm guessing that this is the Czech guy, who sometimes has good information, but never posts his sources - a very good way to let bad information slip past...):
Billung von Stubenskorn, *ca 890, +ca 951; m.Ermengarde of Nantes (*ca 900)
* A1. Wichman; m.ca 930 Frédegunde of Franks, dau.of Charles III Simple of Franks
* A2. Poppo, Ct of Thuringia, *ca 910
* A3. Hermann Billung, Mkgf of Lower Elbe 936, Duke of Saxony (960-973), *ca 915, +27.3.973; m.Hildegarde von Westerburg (*ca 925)
o B1. Duke Bernhard II of Saxony (988-1011), *ca 940, +Corvey 9.2.1011; m.ca 974 Hildegarde von Stade (+1011)
+ C1. Duke Bernhard III of Saxony (1011-59), *ca 995, +29.6.1059; m.1020 Eilika von Schweinfurt (*1000, +ca 1055)
# D1. Duke Otho Ordulf of Saxony (1059-72), *1020, +28.3.1072; m.1042 Wulfhild of Norway (+1071)
* E1. Duke Magnus of Saxony (1072-1106), *ca 1045, +1106; m.1071 Sofia of Hungary (+1095)
o F1. Wulfhilde, *1075, +1126; m.Duke Heinrich IX of Bavaria (+13.12.1126)
o F2. Eilika, *1080, +16.1.1142; m.Duke Otto of Saxony (+1123)
* E2. Bernhard, +young
# D2. Gertrud, *Schweinfurt ca 1028, +Veurne 4.8.1113, bur Veurne; 1m: ca 1050 Floris I of Holland (+28.6.1061); 2m: 1063 Robert I of Flanders (*1031 +13.10.1093)
# D3. Ida, heiress of Laroche, +31.7.1102, bur Namur; 1m: Frederic II of Lower Lorraine (+1065); 2m: Albert III de Namur (*before 10.8.1035 +22.6.1102)
o B2. Mathilda, *ca 944, +25.5.1008; 1m: ca 963 Ct Godefroid of Verdun (+995/1005); 2m: Ct Baldwin III of Flanders (+962)
Friedrich, Pfgf of Saxony; m.Agnes N
* A1. Adalbert, Archbp of Hamburg (1043/45-72), +Goslar 16.3.1072
Rulers of Saxony
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Last updated 20th January 2005
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann,_Duke_of_Saxony
Hermann Billung (900 or 912 – 27 March 973) was a Margrave of Saxony and one of the most well-known members of the House of Billung.
Hermann was the son of Billung von Stubenskorn (c. 860-967) and Ermengarde of Nantes (b. 900). Hermann is generally counted as the first Billung Duke of Saxony, but his exact position is unclear. King Otto I appointed Hermann margrave in 936, granting him a march north of the Elbe between the Limes Saxoniae and Peene Rivers. Having more autonomy than his contemporary margrave Gero, Hermann exacted tribute from the Polabian Slavs inhabiting the March of the Billungs. He often fought against the West Slavic tribes of the Redarians, Abotrites, and Wagrians.
By 953 Otto I, who was also Duke of Saxony, began entrusting more and more of his authority in Saxony to Hermann during his absences. However, Hermann was never named as duke in royal documents. Instead, he is named as a military leader, count, and margrave. His son Bernard inherited and strengthened his father's position and managed to be recognized as duke.
Hermann had property around Lüneburg and founded the monastery of St. Michael in that city. He died in Quedlinburg.
Hermann Billung was probably married twice, first to a woman named Oda (who died on 15 March in an unknown year), and second to Hildegarde of Westerbourg.
He had five children:
* Bernhard I (died 1011), Duke of Saxony
* Liutger (died 26 February 1011) Count in Westfalengau, attested in 991, buried in St. Michaels in Lüneburg, married Emma (died 3 December 1038), buried in the Bremen Cathedral, daughter of Immed IV (Immedinger), sister of Bishop Meinwerk of Paderborn.
* Suanhilde (born between 945 and 955, died 28 November 1014, buried in the monastery of Jena, reburied after 1028 in the Georgskirche of Naumburg in Saale, married 1st in 970 Thietmar I (died after 979) Margrave of Meissen, married (2) before 1000 Ekkehard I (murdered 30 April 1002 in Pöhlde); in 992 Margrave of Meissen, buried in the monastery of Jena, reburied after 1028 in the Church of Georg Naumburg (Saale)
* Mathilde (born between 935 and 945, died 25 May 1008 in Ghent St. Peter), married 1st in 961 to Balduin III, Count of Flanders (died 1 January 962), married second Gottfried der Gefangene (died on 3/4 April after 995) in 963/982, Count of Verdun (Wigeriche), buried in St. Peter's in Ghent
* Imma, in 995 Abbess of Herford
From the Celtic Casimir online family tree:
http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/2/3032.htm
Children:
1. Swanhilde VON SACHSEN+
2. Hermann Billung VON SACHSEN Duke of Saxony+
Billung VON SACHSEN Count of Saxony 578
Born: Abt 890, Stubeckshorn, Niedersachsen
Died: 26 May 967
From German medieval genealogy site:
http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.de/billunger/billing_graf_915/bil...
Billing Graf
Sohn des Grafen Ekbert
Goetz Hans-Werner: Seite 167
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"Das Herzogtum der Billunger - ein sächsischer Sonderweg?"
Die BILLUNGER, deren Name sich von Billung, dem erst später in der Chronik des Lüneburger Michaelsklosters genannten, angeblichen Vater Hermanns, ableitet [2 Vgl. Hömberg Seite 16, der die Nachricht als falsch zurückweist. Dagegen sucht Reinhard Wenskus, Sächsischer Stammesadel und fränkischer Reichsadel (Abhh. Göttingen, phil.-hist. Kl. 3,93) Göttingen 1976, Seite 178 ff., besonders Seite 234ff., die Richtigkeit der Nachricht aus den BILLUNGER-Namen zu erweisen. Andere Verwandtschaftsbezüge weisen danach auf Ecbert, die Hessi-Sippe und die BARDONEN.], stellten in fünf unmittelbar vom Vater auf den Sohn aufeinanderfolgenden Generationen die sächsischen Herzöge. Als deutlich abgrenzbares Geschlecht begegnen uns die BILLUNGER erst seit der ersten Herzogsgeneration mit dem Grafen Wichmann (+ 944) und seinem jüngeren Bruder Hermann, über deren Vorfahren nichts Genaues bekannt ist. Die Herkunft des zweifellos zum sächsischen Hochadels zählenden Geschlechts bleibt daher dunkel. Insgesamt gibt es drei mögliche Traditionslinien:
- Die BILUNGER-Namen (Hermann, Wichmann und Amelung) führen im frühen 9. Jahrhundert eher in hessisches Gebiet zwischen Werra und Fulda im Einflußbereich des Eigenklosters Kaufungen [3 Vgl. dazu Sabine Krüger, Studien zur sächsischen Grafschaftsverfassung im 9. Jh. (Studien und Vorarbeiten zum Historischen Atlas Niedersachsens 19 = Veröffentlichung der Historischen Kommission Hannover, Oldenburg, Braunschweig, Schaumburg-Lippe und Bremen ") Göttingen 1950, besonders Seite 79 ff.] (diese "Sippe" wird vielfach als "ältere BILLUNGER" bezeichnet). [4 Vgl. etwa Karl Jordan, Lexikon des Mittelalters Band 2; Spalte 192f.]
- Vom späteren Wirkungsbereich her hingegen, den Besitzlandschaften und Grafschaften sowohl im Bardengau an der unteren Elbe als auch im Tilithi- und Weitagau an bzw. westlich der unteren Weser, waren die BILLUNGER Amts- und Rechtsnachfolger der EKBERTINER (jedenfalls ist zur Zeit König ARNULFS hier ein Ekbert als Graf bezeugt), und dieser Name kehrt zumindest in der Wichmannschen Linie des Geschlechts wider.
- Vom eigenen Familienbewußtsein her schließlich, das sich aus dem Totengedenken ergibt und am Nekrolog des billungischen Hausklosters in Lüneburg ablesen läßt, betonte man die Bindungen zu den westfälischen WIDUKINDEN. [6 So Gerd Althoff, Adels- und Königsfamilien im Spiegel ihrer Memorialüberlieferung, Studien zum Totengedenken der Billunger und Ottonen (Münstersche
Mittelalter-Schriften 47) München 1984, Seite 64ff.]
Kinder:
Wichmann der Ältere
um 900-23.4.944
Amelung Bischof von Verden (933-962)
um 908-5.5.962
Hermann I. Billung
900/12-27.3.973
Literatur:
Goetz Hans-Werner: Das Herzogtum der Billunger - ein sächsischer Sonderweg?, in: Niedersächsisches Jahrbuch für Landesgeschichte 66 1994, Seite 167-197 -
In English:
The Billunger Duchy, a Saxon exception?
The Billunger who went by the name of Billung, is mentioned later in the chronicles of the Luneburg Monastery of St. Michael, and is the supposed father of Hermann Billung [Homberg regards this as untrue, but rather believes Reinhard Wenskus of Saxon and Frankish tribal nobility to be the father; other kinship relationships suggested include that to Ecbert of the Hessi Clan and Bardon]. The chronicles present five direct father-to-son generations of Saxon dukes.
The first generation includes Count Wichmann (c. 944) and his younger brother Hermann. Nothing is known for certain of their ancestry.
There are three possible heritages:
1. The Bilunger name (Hermann, Wichmann, and Amelung) merges into one in the early 9th century in the area between Hessian and Werra Fulda within the sphere of influence of the Klosters Kaufungen [from Sabine Kruger's studies of the Saxon constitutional county in the 9th century - studies and preparatory work for the Historical Atlas of Lower Saxony, published by the Historical Commission of Hannover, Oldenburg, Braunschweig, Schaumburg-Lippe, and Bremen]; this family is often regarded as the "older Billunger" [Karl Jordan's Lexicon of the Middle Ages, Volume 2]
2. From the area of influence within both the counties Bardengau on the lower Elbe and in Tilithi and Weitagau on or west of the lower Weser. These were the official Billunger, and legal successor to the Ekbertiner (to the time of King Arnulf and Count Egbert), and the name comes at least to Wichmann's line.
3. From the family's own records of its deaths from the convent house in Luneburg, which emphasizes the bonds with the Westphalian Widukind. [Gerd Althoff, noble and royal families in reflection of their memorial tradition, including studies commemorating the dead Billunger and Ottos - Munster medieval writings, published in Munich 1984].
Children:
Wichmann the Elder (900 to 23 April 944)
Amelung, Bishop of Verden 933-962 (908 to 5 May 962)
Herman Billung (900 or 912 to 27 March 1973)
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/lape/pafg262....
Billung (Billing) var greve av Sachsen.
Han var gift med Aeda av frankisk slekt.
Tekst: Tore Nygaard
Kilder:
Mogens Bugge: Våre forfedre, nr. 54. Bent og Vidar Billing Hansen: Rosensverdslektens forfedre, side 28, 68.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/lape/pafg280....
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/greene/pafg69...
Ben M. Angel notes: First, it's not Stubenskorn, but Stübeckshorn. Try and identify where Stubenskorn is on the map, any map, even ones from the 9th century.
Stübeckshorn, the one associated with Hermann Billung as his birth place, is now part of the German city of Soltau, within that city's Hoetzinger District:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%BCbeckshorn
Second, a lot of what passes for guides appears to have little or no attribution. There are exceptions; the German Wikipedia page for the Billunger has a very comprehensive description of the Billung family tree, both Older and Younger parts:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billunger
This follows fairly close to the FMG information for the Billungs, (with significant additional information in German from the Mittelalter Genealogie website). For FMG Medlands entries related to this family:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#_Toc155952301
This entry, for the Billung that straddles the 8th and 9th centuries, is for the Prince (Unknown) Billung, who married Aeda, daughter of Pepin I, King of Italy, and is father of Oda, wife of Liudolf and mother of the Liudolfinger family. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MERGE ANYONE FROM THE TENTH CENTURY WITH THIS PROFILE. That is a different Billung (the one that actually fathered Hermann Billung at Stubeckshorn). Thank you.
The following is unattributed information on the Billung family, some of which doesn't corroborate with source-backed information listed above in some area (I'm guessing that this is the Czech guy, who sometimes has good information, but never posts his sources - a very good way to let bad information slip past...):
Billung von Stubenskorn, *ca 890, +ca 951; m.Ermengarde of Nantes (*ca 900)
- A1. Wichman; m.ca 930 Frédegunde of Franks, dau.of Charles III Simple of Franks
- A2. Poppo, Ct of Thuringia, *ca 910
- A3. Hermann Billung, Mkgf of Lower Elbe 936, Duke of Saxony (960-973), *ca 915, +27.3.973; m.Hildegarde von Westerburg (*ca 925) o B1. Duke Bernhard II of Saxony (988-1011), *ca 940, +Corvey 9.2.1011; m.ca 974 Hildegarde von Stade (+1011) + C1. Duke Bernhard III of Saxony (1011-59), *ca 995, +29.6.1059; m.1020 Eilika von Schweinfurt (*1000, +ca 1055)
- D1. Duke Otho Ordulf of Saxony (1059-72), *1020, +28.3.1072; m.1042 Wulfhild of Norway (+1071)
- E1. Duke Magnus of Saxony (1072-1106), *ca 1045, +1106; m.1071 Sofia of Hungary (+1095) o F1. Wulfhilde, *1075, +1126; m.Duke Heinrich IX of Bavaria (+13.12.1126) o F2. Eilika, *1080, +16.1.1142; m.Duke Otto of Saxony (+1123)
- E2. Bernhard, +young
- D2. Gertrud, *Schweinfurt ca 1028, +Veurne 4.8.1113, bur Veurne; 1m: ca 1050 Floris I of Holland (+28.6.1061); 2m: 1063 Robert I of Flanders (*1031 +13.10.1093)
- D3. Ida, heiress of Laroche, +31.7.1102, bur Namur; 1m: Frederic II of Lower Lorraine (+1065); 2m: Albert III de Namur (*before 10.8.1035 +22.6.1102) o B2. Mathilda, *ca 944, +25.5.1008; 1m: ca 963 Ct Godefroid of Verdun (+995/1005); 2m: Ct Baldwin III of Flanders (+962) Friedrich, Pfgf of Saxony; m.Agnes N
- A1. Adalbert, Archbp of Hamburg (1043/45-72), +Goslar 16.3.1072 Rulers of Saxony
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Last updated 20th January 2005
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann,_Duke_of_Saxony
Hermann Billung (900 or 912 – 27 March 973) was a Margrave of Saxony and one of the most well-known members of the House of Billung.
Hermann was the son of Billung von Stubenskorn (c. 860-967) and Ermengarde of Nantes (b. 900). Hermann is generally counted as the first Billung Duke of Saxony, but his exact position is unclear. King Otto I appointed Hermann margrave in 936, granting him a march north of the Elbe between the Limes Saxoniae and Peene Rivers. Having more autonomy than his contemporary margrave Gero, Hermann exacted tribute from the Polabian Slavs inhabiting the March of the Billungs. He often fought against the West Slavic tribes of the Redarians, Abotrites, and Wagrians.
By 953 Otto I, who was also Duke of Saxony, began entrusting more and more of his authority in Saxony to Hermann during his absences. However, Hermann was never named as duke in royal documents. Instead, he is named as a military leader, count, and margrave. His son Bernard inherited and strengthened his father's position and managed to be recognized as duke.
Hermann had property around Lüneburg and founded the monastery of St. Michael in that city. He died in Quedlinburg.
Hermann Billung was probably married twice, first to a woman named Oda (who died on 15 March in an unknown year), and second to Hildegarde of Westerbourg.
He had five children:
- Bernhard I (died 1011), Duke of Saxony
- Liutger (died 26 February 1011) Count in Westfalengau, attested in 991, buried in St. Michaels in Lüneburg, married Emma (died 3 December 1038), buried in the Bremen Cathedral, daughter of Immed IV (Immedinger), sister of Bishop Meinwerk of Paderborn.
- Suanhilde (born between 945 and 955, died 28 November 1014, buried in the monastery of Jena, reburied after 1028 in the Georgskirche of Naumburg in Saale, married 1st in 970 Thietmar I (died after 979) Margrave of Meissen, married (2) before 1000 Ekkehard I (murdered 30 April 1002 in Pöhlde); in 992 Margrave of Meissen, buried in the monastery of Jena, reburied after 1028 in the Church of Georg Naumburg (Saale)
- Mathilde (born between 935 and 945, died 25 May 1008 in Ghent St. Peter), married 1st in 961 to Balduin III, Count of Flanders (died 1 January 962), married second Gottfried der Gefangene (died on 3/4 April after 995) in 963/982, Count of Verdun (Wigeriche), buried in St. Peter's in Ghent
- Imma, in 995 Abbess of Herford
From the Celtic Casimir online family tree:
http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/2/3032.htm
Children:
1. Swanhilde VON SACHSEN+
2. Hermann Billung VON SACHSEN Duke of Saxony+
Billung VON SACHSEN Count of Saxony 578
Born: Abt 890, Stubeckshorn, Niedersachsen
Died: 26 May 967
From German medieval genealogy site:
http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.de/billunger/billing_graf_915/bil...
Billing Graf
Sohn des Grafen Ekbert
Goetz Hans-Werner: Seite 167
- *************** "Das Herzogtum der Billunger - ein sächsischer Sonderweg?"
Die BILLUNGER, deren Name sich von Billung, dem erst später in der Chronik des Lüneburger Michaelsklosters genannten, angeblichen Vater Hermanns, ableitet [2 Vgl. Hömberg Seite 16, der die Nachricht als falsch zurückweist. Dagegen sucht Reinhard Wenskus, Sächsischer Stammesadel und fränkischer Reichsadel (Abhh. Göttingen, phil.-hist. Kl. 3,93) Göttingen 1976, Seite 178 ff., besonders Seite 234ff., die Richtigkeit der Nachricht aus den BILLUNGER-Namen zu erweisen. Andere Verwandtschaftsbezüge weisen danach auf Ecbert, die Hessi-Sippe und die BARDONEN.], stellten in fünf unmittelbar vom Vater auf den Sohn aufeinanderfolgenden Generationen die sächsischen Herzöge. Als deutlich abgrenzbares Geschlecht begegnen uns die BILLUNGER erst seit der ersten Herzogsgeneration mit dem Grafen Wichmann (+ 944) und seinem jüngeren Bruder Hermann, über deren Vorfahren nichts Genaues bekannt ist. Die Herkunft des zweifellos zum sächsischen Hochadels zählenden Geschlechts bleibt daher dunkel. Insgesamt gibt es drei mögliche Traditionslinien:
- Die BILUNGER-Namen (Hermann, Wichmann und Amelung) führen im frühen 9. Jahrhundert eher in hessisches Gebiet zwischen Werra und Fulda im Einflußbereich des Eigenklosters Kaufungen [3 Vgl. dazu Sabine Krüger, Studien zur sächsischen Grafschaftsverfassung im 9. Jh. (Studien und Vorarbeiten zum Historischen Atlas Niedersachsens 19 = Veröffentlichung der Historischen Kommission Hannover, Oldenburg, Braunschweig, Schaumburg-Lippe und Bremen ") Göttingen 1950, besonders Seite 79 ff.] (diese "Sippe" wird vielfach als "ältere BILLUNGER" bezeichnet). [4 Vgl. etwa Karl Jordan, Lexikon des Mittelalters Band 2; Spalte 192f.]
- Vom späteren Wirkungsbereich her hingegen, den Besitzlandschaften und Grafschaften sowohl im Bardengau an der unteren Elbe als auch im Tilithi- und Weitagau an bzw. westlich der unteren Weser, waren die BILLUNGER Amts- und Rechtsnachfolger der EKBERTINER (jedenfalls ist zur Zeit König ARNULFS hier ein Ekbert als Graf bezeugt), und dieser Name kehrt zumindest in der Wichmannschen Linie des Geschlechts wider.
- Vom eigenen Familienbewußtsein her schließlich, das sich aus dem Totengedenken ergibt und am Nekrolog des billungischen Hausklosters in Lüneburg ablesen läßt, betonte man die Bindungen zu den westfälischen WIDUKINDEN. [6 So Gerd Althoff, Adels- und Königsfamilien im Spiegel ihrer Memorialüberlieferung, Studien zum Totengedenken der Billunger und Ottonen (Münstersche
Mittelalter-Schriften 47) München 1984, Seite 64ff.] Kinder:
Wichmann der Ältere um 900-23.4.944 Amelung Bischof von Verden (933-962) um 908-5.5.962 Hermann I. Billung 900/12-27.3.973 Literatur:
Goetz Hans-Werner: Das Herzogtum der Billunger - ein sächsischer Sonderweg?, in: Niedersächsisches Jahrbuch für Landesgeschichte 66 1994, Seite 167-197 -
In English:
The Billunger Duchy, a Saxon exception?
The Billunger who went by the name of Billung, is mentioned later in the chronicles of the Luneburg Monastery of St. Michael, and is the supposed father of Hermann Billung [Homberg regards this as untrue, but rather believes Reinhard Wenskus of Saxon and Frankish tribal nobility to be the father; other kinship relationships suggested include that to Ecbert of the Hessi Clan and Bardon]. The chronicles present five direct father-to-son generations of Saxon dukes.
The first generation includes Count Wichmann (c. 944) and his younger brother Hermann. Nothing is known for certain of their ancestry.
There are three possible heritages:
1. The Bilunger name (Hermann, Wichmann, and Amelung) merges into one in the early 9th century in the area between Hessian and Werra Fulda within the sphere of influence of the Klosters Kaufungen [from Sabine Kruger's studies of the Saxon constitutional county in the 9th century - studies and preparatory work for the Historical Atlas of Lower Saxony, published by the Historical Commission of Hannover, Oldenburg, Braunschweig, Schaumburg-Lippe, and Bremen]; this family is often regarded as the "older Billunger" [Karl Jordan's Lexicon of the Middle Ages, Volume 2]
2. From the area of influence within both the counties Bardengau on the lower Elbe and in Tilithi and Weitagau on or west of the lower Weser. These were the official Billunger, and legal successor to the Ekbertiner (to the time of King Arnulf and Count Egbert), and the name comes at least to Wichmann's line.
3. From the family's own records of its deaths from the convent house in Luneburg, which emphasizes the bonds with the Westphalian Widukind. [Gerd Althoff, noble and royal families in reflection of their memorial tradition, including studies commemorating the dead Billunger and Ottos - Munster medieval writings, published in Munich 1984].
Children:
Wichmann the Elder (900 to 23 April 944)
Amelung, Bishop of Verden 933-962 (908 to 5 May 962)
Herman Billung (900 or 912 to 27 March 1973) --------------------
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/lape/pafg262....
Billung (Billing) var greve av Sachsen.
Han var gift med Aeda av frankisk slekt.
Tekst: Tore Nygaard
Kilder:
Mogens Bugge: Våre forfedre, nr. 54. Bent og Vidar Billing Hansen: Rosensverdslektens forfedre, side 28, 68.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/lape/pafg280....
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/greene/pafg69...
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Info from Findagrave.com: Birth: unknown Saxony (Sachsen), Germany Death: unknown Saxony (Sachsen), Germany
Birth:780 Death:850
Billung I von Stubeckeshorn oder Stubenskorn Graf in Sachsen
Family links:
Parents:
Bruno II von Sachsen
Hasalda von Sachsen
Spouse:
Athalia de Carolingian von Sachsen*
Children:
Oda von Sachsen*
Sibling:
Bruno III von Sachsen*
Billung von Sachsen
*Calculated relationship
Burial: Stiftskirche Gandersheim Bad Gandersheim Northeimer Landkreis Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), Germany
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Created by: Memerizion Record added: Mar 27, 2015 Find A Grave Memorial# 144249876
O Billungovi I, Countovi of Thuringiovi (čeština)
Ben M. Angel notes: First, it's not Stubenskorn, but Stübeckshorn. Try and identify where Stubenskorn is on the map, any map, even ones from the 9th century.
Stübeckshorn, the one associated with Hermann Billung as his birth place, is now part of the German city of Soltau, within that city's Hoetzinger District:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%BCbeckshorn
Second, a lot of what passes for guides appears to have little or no attribution. There are exceptions; the German Wikipedia page for the Billunger has a very comprehensive description of the Billung family tree, both Older and Younger parts:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billunger
This follows fairly close to the FMG information for the Billungs, (with significant additional information in German from the Mittelalter Genealogie website). For FMG Medlands entries related to this family:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#_Toc155952301
This entry, for the Billung that straddles the 8th and 9th centuries, is for the Prince (Unknown) Billung, who married Aeda, daughter of Pepin I, King of Italy, and is father of Oda, wife of Liudolf and mother of the Liudolfinger family. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MERGE ANYONE FROM THE TENTH CENTURY WITH THIS PROFILE. That is a different Billung (the one that actually fathered Hermann Billung at Stubeckshorn). Thank you.
The following is unattributed information on the Billung family, some of which doesn't corroborate with source-backed information listed above in some area (I'm guessing that this is the Czech guy, who sometimes has good information, but never posts his sources - a very good way to let bad information slip past...):
Billung von Stubenskorn, *ca 890, +ca 951; m.Ermengarde of Nantes (*ca 900)
* A1. Wichman; m.ca 930 Frédegunde of Franks, dau.of Charles III Simple of Franks
* A2. Poppo, Ct of Thuringia, *ca 910
* A3. Hermann Billung, Mkgf of Lower Elbe 936, Duke of Saxony (960-973), *ca 915, +27.3.973; m.Hildegarde von Westerburg (*ca 925)
o B1. Duke Bernhard II of Saxony (988-1011), *ca 940, +Corvey 9.2.1011; m.ca 974 Hildegarde von Stade (+1011)
+ C1. Duke Bernhard III of Saxony (1011-59), *ca 995, +29.6.1059; m.1020 Eilika von Schweinfurt (*1000, +ca 1055)
# D1. Duke Otho Ordulf of Saxony (1059-72), *1020, +28.3.1072; m.1042 Wulfhild of Norway (+1071)
* E1. Duke Magnus of Saxony (1072-1106), *ca 1045, +1106; m.1071 Sofia of Hungary (+1095)
o F1. Wulfhilde, *1075, +1126; m.Duke Heinrich IX of Bavaria (+13.12.1126)
o F2. Eilika, *1080, +16.1.1142; m.Duke Otto of Saxony (+1123)
* E2. Bernhard, +young
# D2. Gertrud, *Schweinfurt ca 1028, +Veurne 4.8.1113, bur Veurne; 1m: ca 1050 Floris I of Holland (+28.6.1061); 2m: 1063 Robert I of Flanders (*1031 +13.10.1093)
# D3. Ida, heiress of Laroche, +31.7.1102, bur Namur; 1m: Frederic II of Lower Lorraine (+1065); 2m: Albert III de Namur (*before 10.8.1035 +22.6.1102)
o B2. Mathilda, *ca 944, +25.5.1008; 1m: ca 963 Ct Godefroid of Verdun (+995/1005); 2m: Ct Baldwin III of Flanders (+962)
Friedrich, Pfgf of Saxony; m.Agnes N
* A1. Adalbert, Archbp of Hamburg (1043/45-72), +Goslar 16.3.1072
Rulers of Saxony
INDEX PAGE
Last updated 20th January 2005
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann,_Duke_of_Saxony
Hermann Billung (900 or 912 – 27 March 973) was a Margrave of Saxony and one of the most well-known members of the House of Billung.
Hermann was the son of Billung von Stubenskorn (c. 860-967) and Ermengarde of Nantes (b. 900). Hermann is generally counted as the first Billung Duke of Saxony, but his exact position is unclear. King Otto I appointed Hermann margrave in 936, granting him a march north of the Elbe between the Limes Saxoniae and Peene Rivers. Having more autonomy than his contemporary margrave Gero, Hermann exacted tribute from the Polabian Slavs inhabiting the March of the Billungs. He often fought against the West Slavic tribes of the Redarians, Abotrites, and Wagrians.
By 953 Otto I, who was also Duke of Saxony, began entrusting more and more of his authority in Saxony to Hermann during his absences. However, Hermann was never named as duke in royal documents. Instead, he is named as a military leader, count, and margrave. His son Bernard inherited and strengthened his father's position and managed to be recognized as duke.
Hermann had property around Lüneburg and founded the monastery of St. Michael in that city. He died in Quedlinburg.
Hermann Billung was probably married twice, first to a woman named Oda (who died on 15 March in an unknown year), and second to Hildegarde of Westerbourg.
He had five children:
* Bernhard I (died 1011), Duke of Saxony
* Liutger (died 26 February 1011) Count in Westfalengau, attested in 991, buried in St. Michaels in Lüneburg, married Emma (died 3 December 1038), buried in the Bremen Cathedral, daughter of Immed IV (Immedinger), sister of Bishop Meinwerk of Paderborn.
* Suanhilde (born between 945 and 955, died 28 November 1014, buried in the monastery of Jena, reburied after 1028 in the Georgskirche of Naumburg in Saale, married 1st in 970 Thietmar I (died after 979) Margrave of Meissen, married (2) before 1000 Ekkehard I (murdered 30 April 1002 in Pöhlde); in 992 Margrave of Meissen, buried in the monastery of Jena, reburied after 1028 in the Church of Georg Naumburg (Saale)
* Mathilde (born between 935 and 945, died 25 May 1008 in Ghent St. Peter), married 1st in 961 to Balduin III, Count of Flanders (died 1 January 962), married second Gottfried der Gefangene (died on 3/4 April after 995) in 963/982, Count of Verdun (Wigeriche), buried in St. Peter's in Ghent
* Imma, in 995 Abbess of Herford
From the Celtic Casimir online family tree:
http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/2/3032.htm
Children:
1. Swanhilde VON SACHSEN+
2. Hermann Billung VON SACHSEN Duke of Saxony+
Billung VON SACHSEN Count of Saxony 578
Born: Abt 890, Stubeckshorn, Niedersachsen
Died: 26 May 967
From German medieval genealogy site:
http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.de/billunger/billing_graf_915/bil...
Billing Graf
Sohn des Grafen Ekbert
Goetz Hans-Werner: Seite 167
- ****************
"Das Herzogtum der Billunger - ein sächsischer Sonderweg?"
Die BILLUNGER, deren Name sich von Billung, dem erst später in der Chronik des Lüneburger Michaelsklosters genannten, angeblichen Vater Hermanns, ableitet [2 Vgl. Hömberg Seite 16, der die Nachricht als falsch zurückweist. Dagegen sucht Reinhard Wenskus, Sächsischer Stammesadel und fränkischer Reichsadel (Abhh. Göttingen, phil.-hist. Kl. 3,93) Göttingen 1976, Seite 178 ff., besonders Seite 234ff., die Richtigkeit der Nachricht aus den BILLUNGER-Namen zu erweisen. Andere Verwandtschaftsbezüge weisen danach auf Ecbert, die Hessi-Sippe und die BARDONEN.], stellten in fünf unmittelbar vom Vater auf den Sohn aufeinanderfolgenden Generationen die sächsischen Herzöge. Als deutlich abgrenzbares Geschlecht begegnen uns die BILLUNGER erst seit der ersten Herzogsgeneration mit dem Grafen Wichmann (+ 944) und seinem jüngeren Bruder Hermann, über deren Vorfahren nichts Genaues bekannt ist. Die Herkunft des zweifellos zum sächsischen Hochadels zählenden Geschlechts bleibt daher dunkel. Insgesamt gibt es drei mögliche Traditionslinien:
- Die BILUNGER-Namen (Hermann, Wichmann und Amelung) führen im frühen 9. Jahrhundert eher in hessisches Gebiet zwischen Werra und Fulda im Einflußbereich des Eigenklosters Kaufungen [3 Vgl. dazu Sabine Krüger, Studien zur sächsischen Grafschaftsverfassung im 9. Jh. (Studien und Vorarbeiten zum Historischen Atlas Niedersachsens 19 = Veröffentlichung der Historischen Kommission Hannover, Oldenburg, Braunschweig, Schaumburg-Lippe und Bremen ") Göttingen 1950, besonders Seite 79 ff.] (diese "Sippe" wird vielfach als "ältere BILLUNGER" bezeichnet). [4 Vgl. etwa Karl Jordan, Lexikon des Mittelalters Band 2; Spalte 192f.]
- Vom späteren Wirkungsbereich her hingegen, den Besitzlandschaften und Grafschaften sowohl im Bardengau an der unteren Elbe als auch im Tilithi- und Weitagau an bzw. westlich der unteren Weser, waren die BILLUNGER Amts- und Rechtsnachfolger der EKBERTINER (jedenfalls ist zur Zeit König ARNULFS hier ein Ekbert als Graf bezeugt), und dieser Name kehrt zumindest in der Wichmannschen Linie des Geschlechts wider.
- Vom eigenen Familienbewußtsein her schließlich, das sich aus dem Totengedenken ergibt und am Nekrolog des billungischen Hausklosters in Lüneburg ablesen läßt, betonte man die Bindungen zu den westfälischen WIDUKINDEN. [6 So Gerd Althoff, Adels- und Königsfamilien im Spiegel ihrer Memorialüberlieferung, Studien zum Totengedenken der Billunger und Ottonen (Münstersche
Mittelalter-Schriften 47) München 1984, Seite 64ff.]
Kinder:
Wichmann der Ältere
um 900-23.4.944
Amelung Bischof von Verden (933-962)
um 908-5.5.962
Hermann I. Billung
900/12-27.3.973
Literatur:
Goetz Hans-Werner: Das Herzogtum der Billunger - ein sächsischer Sonderweg?, in: Niedersächsisches Jahrbuch für Landesgeschichte 66 1994, Seite 167-197 -
In English:
The Billunger Duchy, a Saxon exception?
The Billunger who went by the name of Billung, is mentioned later in the chronicles of the Luneburg Monastery of St. Michael, and is the supposed father of Hermann Billung [Homberg regards this as untrue, but rather believes Reinhard Wenskus of Saxon and Frankish tribal nobility to be the father; other kinship relationships suggested include that to Ecbert of the Hessi Clan and Bardon]. The chronicles present five direct father-to-son generations of Saxon dukes.
The first generation includes Count Wichmann (c. 944) and his younger brother Hermann. Nothing is known for certain of their ancestry.
There are three possible heritages:
1. The Bilunger name (Hermann, Wichmann, and Amelung) merges into one in the early 9th century in the area between Hessian and Werra Fulda within the sphere of influence of the Klosters Kaufungen [from Sabine Kruger's studies of the Saxon constitutional county in the 9th century - studies and preparatory work for the Historical Atlas of Lower Saxony, published by the Historical Commission of Hannover, Oldenburg, Braunschweig, Schaumburg-Lippe, and Bremen]; this family is often regarded as the "older Billunger" [Karl Jordan's Lexicon of the Middle Ages, Volume 2]
2. From the area of influence within both the counties Bardengau on the lower Elbe and in Tilithi and Weitagau on or west of the lower Weser. These were the official Billunger, and legal successor to the Ekbertiner (to the time of King Arnulf and Count Egbert), and the name comes at least to Wichmann's line.
3. From the family's own records of its deaths from the convent house in Luneburg, which emphasizes the bonds with the Westphalian Widukind. [Gerd Althoff, noble and royal families in reflection of their memorial tradition, including studies commemorating the dead Billunger and Ottos - Munster medieval writings, published in Munich 1984].
Children:
Wichmann the Elder (900 to 23 April 944)
Amelung, Bishop of Verden 933-962 (908 to 5 May 962)
Herman Billung (900 or 912 to 27 March 1973)
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/lape/pafg262....
Billung (Billing) var greve av Sachsen.
Han var gift med Aeda av frankisk slekt.
Tekst: Tore Nygaard
Kilder:
Mogens Bugge: Våre forfedre, nr. 54. Bent og Vidar Billing Hansen: Rosensverdslektens forfedre, side 28, 68.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/lape/pafg280....
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/greene/pafg69...
Ben M. Angel notes: First, it's not Stubenskorn, but Stübeckshorn. Try and identify where Stubenskorn is on the map, any map, even ones from the 9th century.
Stübeckshorn, the one associated with Hermann Billung as his birth place, is now part of the German city of Soltau, within that city's Hoetzinger District:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/St%C3%BCbeckshorn
Second, a lot of what passes for guides appears to have little or no attribution. There are exceptions; the German Wikipedia page for the Billunger has a very comprehensive description of the Billung family tree, both Older and Younger parts:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billunger
This follows fairly close to the FMG information for the Billungs, (with significant additional information in German from the Mittelalter Genealogie website). For FMG Medlands entries related to this family:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SAXONY.htm#_Toc155952301
This entry, for the Billung that straddles the 8th and 9th centuries, is for the Prince (Unknown) Billung, who married Aeda, daughter of Pepin I, King of Italy, and is father of Oda, wife of Liudolf and mother of the Liudolfinger family. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO MERGE ANYONE FROM THE TENTH CENTURY WITH THIS PROFILE. That is a different Billung (the one that actually fathered Hermann Billung at Stubeckshorn). Thank you.
The following is unattributed information on the Billung family, some of which doesn't corroborate with source-backed information listed above in some area (I'm guessing that this is the Czech guy, who sometimes has good information, but never posts his sources - a very good way to let bad information slip past...):
Billung von Stubenskorn, *ca 890, +ca 951; m.Ermengarde of Nantes (*ca 900)
- A1. Wichman; m.ca 930 Frédegunde of Franks, dau.of Charles III Simple of Franks
- A2. Poppo, Ct of Thuringia, *ca 910
- A3. Hermann Billung, Mkgf of Lower Elbe 936, Duke of Saxony (960-973), *ca 915, +27.3.973; m.Hildegarde von Westerburg (*ca 925) o B1. Duke Bernhard II of Saxony (988-1011), *ca 940, +Corvey 9.2.1011; m.ca 974 Hildegarde von Stade (+1011) + C1. Duke Bernhard III of Saxony (1011-59), *ca 995, +29.6.1059; m.1020 Eilika von Schweinfurt (*1000, +ca 1055)
- D1. Duke Otho Ordulf of Saxony (1059-72), *1020, +28.3.1072; m.1042 Wulfhild of Norway (+1071)
- E1. Duke Magnus of Saxony (1072-1106), *ca 1045, +1106; m.1071 Sofia of Hungary (+1095) o F1. Wulfhilde, *1075, +1126; m.Duke Heinrich IX of Bavaria (+13.12.1126) o F2. Eilika, *1080, +16.1.1142; m.Duke Otto of Saxony (+1123)
- E2. Bernhard, +young
- D2. Gertrud, *Schweinfurt ca 1028, +Veurne 4.8.1113, bur Veurne; 1m: ca 1050 Floris I of Holland (+28.6.1061); 2m: 1063 Robert I of Flanders (*1031 +13.10.1093)
- D3. Ida, heiress of Laroche, +31.7.1102, bur Namur; 1m: Frederic II of Lower Lorraine (+1065); 2m: Albert III de Namur (*before 10.8.1035 +22.6.1102) o B2. Mathilda, *ca 944, +25.5.1008; 1m: ca 963 Ct Godefroid of Verdun (+995/1005); 2m: Ct Baldwin III of Flanders (+962) Friedrich, Pfgf of Saxony; m.Agnes N
- A1. Adalbert, Archbp of Hamburg (1043/45-72), +Goslar 16.3.1072 Rulers of Saxony
INDEX PAGE
Last updated 20th January 2005
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann,_Duke_of_Saxony
Hermann Billung (900 or 912 – 27 March 973) was a Margrave of Saxony and one of the most well-known members of the House of Billung.
Hermann was the son of Billung von Stubenskorn (c. 860-967) and Ermengarde of Nantes (b. 900). Hermann is generally counted as the first Billung Duke of Saxony, but his exact position is unclear. King Otto I appointed Hermann margrave in 936, granting him a march north of the Elbe between the Limes Saxoniae and Peene Rivers. Having more autonomy than his contemporary margrave Gero, Hermann exacted tribute from the Polabian Slavs inhabiting the March of the Billungs. He often fought against the West Slavic tribes of the Redarians, Abotrites, and Wagrians.
By 953 Otto I, who was also Duke of Saxony, began entrusting more and more of his authority in Saxony to Hermann during his absences. However, Hermann was never named as duke in royal documents. Instead, he is named as a military leader, count, and margrave. His son Bernard inherited and strengthened his father's position and managed to be recognized as duke.
Hermann had property around Lüneburg and founded the monastery of St. Michael in that city. He died in Quedlinburg.
Hermann Billung was probably married twice, first to a woman named Oda (who died on 15 March in an unknown year), and second to Hildegarde of Westerbourg.
He had five children:
- Bernhard I (died 1011), Duke of Saxony
- Liutger (died 26 February 1011) Count in Westfalengau, attested in 991, buried in St. Michaels in Lüneburg, married Emma (died 3 December 1038), buried in the Bremen Cathedral, daughter of Immed IV (Immedinger), sister of Bishop Meinwerk of Paderborn.
- Suanhilde (born between 945 and 955, died 28 November 1014, buried in the monastery of Jena, reburied after 1028 in the Georgskirche of Naumburg in Saale, married 1st in 970 Thietmar I (died after 979) Margrave of Meissen, married (2) before 1000 Ekkehard I (murdered 30 April 1002 in Pöhlde); in 992 Margrave of Meissen, buried in the monastery of Jena, reburied after 1028 in the Church of Georg Naumburg (Saale)
- Mathilde (born between 935 and 945, died 25 May 1008 in Ghent St. Peter), married 1st in 961 to Balduin III, Count of Flanders (died 1 January 962), married second Gottfried der Gefangene (died on 3/4 April after 995) in 963/982, Count of Verdun (Wigeriche), buried in St. Peter's in Ghent
- Imma, in 995 Abbess of Herford
From the Celtic Casimir online family tree:
http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/2/3032.htm
Children:
1. Swanhilde VON SACHSEN+
2. Hermann Billung VON SACHSEN Duke of Saxony+
Billung VON SACHSEN Count of Saxony 578
Born: Abt 890, Stubeckshorn, Niedersachsen
Died: 26 May 967
From German medieval genealogy site:
http://www.genealogie-mittelalter.de/billunger/billing_graf_915/bil...
Billing Graf
Sohn des Grafen Ekbert
Goetz Hans-Werner: Seite 167
- *************** "Das Herzogtum der Billunger - ein sächsischer Sonderweg?"
Die BILLUNGER, deren Name sich von Billung, dem erst später in der Chronik des Lüneburger Michaelsklosters genannten, angeblichen Vater Hermanns, ableitet [2 Vgl. Hömberg Seite 16, der die Nachricht als falsch zurückweist. Dagegen sucht Reinhard Wenskus, Sächsischer Stammesadel und fränkischer Reichsadel (Abhh. Göttingen, phil.-hist. Kl. 3,93) Göttingen 1976, Seite 178 ff., besonders Seite 234ff., die Richtigkeit der Nachricht aus den BILLUNGER-Namen zu erweisen. Andere Verwandtschaftsbezüge weisen danach auf Ecbert, die Hessi-Sippe und die BARDONEN.], stellten in fünf unmittelbar vom Vater auf den Sohn aufeinanderfolgenden Generationen die sächsischen Herzöge. Als deutlich abgrenzbares Geschlecht begegnen uns die BILLUNGER erst seit der ersten Herzogsgeneration mit dem Grafen Wichmann (+ 944) und seinem jüngeren Bruder Hermann, über deren Vorfahren nichts Genaues bekannt ist. Die Herkunft des zweifellos zum sächsischen Hochadels zählenden Geschlechts bleibt daher dunkel. Insgesamt gibt es drei mögliche Traditionslinien:
- Die BILUNGER-Namen (Hermann, Wichmann und Amelung) führen im frühen 9. Jahrhundert eher in hessisches Gebiet zwischen Werra und Fulda im Einflußbereich des Eigenklosters Kaufungen [3 Vgl. dazu Sabine Krüger, Studien zur sächsischen Grafschaftsverfassung im 9. Jh. (Studien und Vorarbeiten zum Historischen Atlas Niedersachsens 19 = Veröffentlichung der Historischen Kommission Hannover, Oldenburg, Braunschweig, Schaumburg-Lippe und Bremen ") Göttingen 1950, besonders Seite 79 ff.] (diese "Sippe" wird vielfach als "ältere BILLUNGER" bezeichnet). [4 Vgl. etwa Karl Jordan, Lexikon des Mittelalters Band 2; Spalte 192f.]
- Vom späteren Wirkungsbereich her hingegen, den Besitzlandschaften und Grafschaften sowohl im Bardengau an der unteren Elbe als auch im Tilithi- und Weitagau an bzw. westlich der unteren Weser, waren die BILLUNGER Amts- und Rechtsnachfolger der EKBERTINER (jedenfalls ist zur Zeit König ARNULFS hier ein Ekbert als Graf bezeugt), und dieser Name kehrt zumindest in der Wichmannschen Linie des Geschlechts wider.
- Vom eigenen Familienbewußtsein her schließlich, das sich aus dem Totengedenken ergibt und am Nekrolog des billungischen Hausklosters in Lüneburg ablesen läßt, betonte man die Bindungen zu den westfälischen WIDUKINDEN. [6 So Gerd Althoff, Adels- und Königsfamilien im Spiegel ihrer Memorialüberlieferung, Studien zum Totengedenken der Billunger und Ottonen (Münstersche
Mittelalter-Schriften 47) München 1984, Seite 64ff.] Kinder:
Wichmann der Ältere um 900-23.4.944 Amelung Bischof von Verden (933-962) um 908-5.5.962 Hermann I. Billung 900/12-27.3.973 Literatur:
Goetz Hans-Werner: Das Herzogtum der Billunger - ein sächsischer Sonderweg?, in: Niedersächsisches Jahrbuch für Landesgeschichte 66 1994, Seite 167-197 -
In English:
The Billunger Duchy, a Saxon exception?
The Billunger who went by the name of Billung, is mentioned later in the chronicles of the Luneburg Monastery of St. Michael, and is the supposed father of Hermann Billung [Homberg regards this as untrue, but rather believes Reinhard Wenskus of Saxon and Frankish tribal nobility to be the father; other kinship relationships suggested include that to Ecbert of the Hessi Clan and Bardon]. The chronicles present five direct father-to-son generations of Saxon dukes.
The first generation includes Count Wichmann (c. 944) and his younger brother Hermann. Nothing is known for certain of their ancestry.
There are three possible heritages:
1. The Bilunger name (Hermann, Wichmann, and Amelung) merges into one in the early 9th century in the area between Hessian and Werra Fulda within the sphere of influence of the Klosters Kaufungen [from Sabine Kruger's studies of the Saxon constitutional county in the 9th century - studies and preparatory work for the Historical Atlas of Lower Saxony, published by the Historical Commission of Hannover, Oldenburg, Braunschweig, Schaumburg-Lippe, and Bremen]; this family is often regarded as the "older Billunger" [Karl Jordan's Lexicon of the Middle Ages, Volume 2]
2. From the area of influence within both the counties Bardengau on the lower Elbe and in Tilithi and Weitagau on or west of the lower Weser. These were the official Billunger, and legal successor to the Ekbertiner (to the time of King Arnulf and Count Egbert), and the name comes at least to Wichmann's line.
3. From the family's own records of its deaths from the convent house in Luneburg, which emphasizes the bonds with the Westphalian Widukind. [Gerd Althoff, noble and royal families in reflection of their memorial tradition, including studies commemorating the dead Billunger and Ottos - Munster medieval writings, published in Munich 1984].
Children:
Wichmann the Elder (900 to 23 April 944)
Amelung, Bishop of Verden 933-962 (908 to 5 May 962)
Herman Billung (900 or 912 to 27 March 1973) --------------------
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/lape/pafg262....
Billung (Billing) var greve av Sachsen.
Han var gift med Aeda av frankisk slekt.
Tekst: Tore Nygaard
Kilder:
Mogens Bugge: Våre forfedre, nr. 54. Bent og Vidar Billing Hansen: Rosensverdslektens forfedre, side 28, 68.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/lape/pafg280....
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~greenefamily/greene/pafg69...
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Info from Findagrave.com: Birth: unknown Saxony (Sachsen), Germany Death: unknown Saxony (Sachsen), Germany
Birth:780 Death:850
Billung I von Stubeckeshorn oder Stubenskorn Graf in Sachsen
Family links:
Parents:
Bruno II von Sachsen
Hasalda von Sachsen
Spouse:
Athalia de Carolingian von Sachsen*
Children:
Oda von Sachsen*
Sibling:
Bruno III von Sachsen*
Billung von Sachsen
*Calculated relationship
Burial: Stiftskirche Gandersheim Bad Gandersheim Northeimer Landkreis Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), Germany
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