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Antoine Desrosiers, II

Also Known As: "Antoine Desrosier", "le grand-père des Désilets sous Michel", "son fils", "aka Deronzies", "dit Grollier"
Birthdate:
Birthplace: Renaison,Roanne,Forez,France
Death: between August 08, 1691 and August 09, 1691 (70-74)
Champlain, Champlain, PQ, Can
Place of Burial: Champlain, Les Chenaux, Québec, Canada
Immediate Family:

Son of Jean or Antoine Deronsier de Crocketagni, I and Sophie Sylvie Desrosiers
Husband of Anne Leneuf du Herisson
Father of Marie Rhealt; Michel Desrosiers dit Désilets; Joseph Desrosiers; Jean Baptiste Desrosiers du Tremble; Anne Madeleine Desrosiers and 5 others
Brother of Anne Desrosiers

Occupation: Engagé des Jésuites aux Trois-Rivières à son arrivée en Nouvelle-France, octobre 1645. Maître-charpentier. Juge aux Trois-Rivières., Judge, judge
baptized: 08 30 1620
married: 11 24 1647
Married:: Anne Leneuf {Desrosiers} (est. 1615-D) [14667]
Managed by: Darcy Wayne Dumas
Last Updated:

About Antoine Desrosiers, II

http://www.francogene.com/genealogie-quebec-genealogy/000/000156.php

Antoine est né en 1619.

Décédé le 9 août 1691.

Occupation : Maître Charpentier

Lieu de résidence : Champlain

Conjointe : Anne Leneuf

Né en 1619, à Renaison (Loire), France*. C'était un homme instruit qui s'était établi à Trois-Rivières dès 1645. Il avait épousé là, en 1649, Anne Leneuf du Hérisson, née en 1632, fille de Michel Leneuf, sieur du Hérisson et nièce de Jacques Leneuf, sieur de la Potherie, gouverneur des Trois-Rivières. Ces Leneuf était établis à Trois-Rivières depuis 1636.

L'épouse d'Antoine Desrosiers, Anne Leneuf fut confirmée à Champlain par Monseigneur de Laval, le 24 mai 1669.

En 1663, la famille d'Antoine Desrosiers et d'Anne Leneuf se composait de 5 enfants : Marie, née le 16 juin 1650, Michel, né en 1652, Joseph, né en 1655, Jean en 1657 et Jeanne en 1661.

Marie Desrosiers avait été l'élève de Marie l'Incarnation chez les Ursulines de Québec.

En 1659, Antoine Desrosiers fut capturé par les Iroquois dans les îles de Sorel. Il réussit à s'évader.

ENFANTS D'ANTOINE DESROSIER ET D'ANNE LENEUF

MARIE, baptisée à Trois-Rivières le 16 juin 1650. Elle eut pour parrain et marraine, son oncle, Jean-François Poutrel et son épouse Madeleine Leneuf. Le 19 février 1664, elle épousa Alexandre Raoul dont le nom fut changé en Raux. Il fut la souche de tous les Raux et Rho ou Rheault de la région de Trois-Rivières. La même année, ils s'établirent à Champlain où ils passèrent toute leur vie.

MICHEL, baptisé à Trois-Rivières le 3 septembre 1652. En 1680, il épousa Marie-Jeanne Artault, née en 1667, fille de Pierre Artault, Sieur de La Tour et de Louise Arasuy, alias Manitouakikouc, sauvagesse baptisée en 1621 qui mourut le 16 février 1704. Le nom de Michel Desrosiers fut changé en celui de Désilets. Il est la souche de tous les Désilets de la région de Trois-Rivières.

JOSEPH, baptisé le 29 juillet 1655, marié à Françoise Dubois. Il mourut jeune ne laissant qu'une petite fille, Marie-Josette.

JEAN, baptisé à Trois-Rivières le 30 septembre 1657. Le 20 janvier 1682, à Champlain, il épouse Marie Françoise Dandonneau. Il mourut le 23 février 1704. Son nom fut changé en Du Tremble.

MARIE-JEANNE, fut baptisée à Trois-Rivières en 1659. Le 18 mars 1687, elle épousa Claude Drauet.

ANNE, baptisée à Trois-Rivières le 12 novembre 1661. Elle épousa en premières noces, Jacques Turcot de Champlain qui mourut en 1699. Ce Jacques Turcot était fils de Jean Turcot, tué par les Iroquois le 19 août 1652 et de Françoise Capel. Cette Françoise Capel épousa en secondes noces Jacques Lucas, eut un fils nommé Jacques, qui épousa Madeleine Baudoin fille de René Baudoin. En troisième noces, Françoise Capel épousa Jacques Le Marchand, neveu de Jeanne Le Marchand Leneuf. C'est la souche de tous les Marchand de Champlain.

En deuxième noce, Anne épousa le 24 avril 1702, Jean Débidabé des Trois-Rivières. Ils vécurent à l'Ile Dupras.

ANTOINE, baptisé à Trois-Rivières le 30 août 1664. Il eut pour parrain Seigneur Étienne Pizard de la Touche. Le 26 novembre 1696, il épousa Marie-Renée Lepelle. Son nom fut changé en Lafrenière.

PIERRE, baptisé à Champlain en 1667. Le 24 avril 1702, il épousait Marguerite Aubuchon du Cap. Son nom fut changé en Dargy. Son beau-père, Jacques Aubuchon, avait eu comme première femme, Mathurine Poisson, fille de Jean Poisson.

  • Renaison, now in the department of Loire, is in the former province of Forez, which included the central part of the modern Loire department, a bit of Haute-Loire, and part of Puy-de-Dome. The language commonly spoken by the Foreziens was Franco- Provençal.

http://livingstonaliveandwell.blogspot.com/2012/01/in-beginning.htm... HISTORY OF THE LAFRENIERE FAMILY, DESCENDANTS OF ANTOINE DESROSIERS

Five families share this ancestor under the names of DESROSIERS, DESILETS, DUTREMBLE (one of his sons will add the name JUTRAS), DARGY or DARGIS, and the one which concerns this history, LAFRENIERE.

Antoine Desrosiers was born in the Province of Forez in France in the year 1619 at Renaison, Lyon; a nobleman of Saone and Loire. In the year 1641, he came to Canada in the Service of the Jesuits. It is noted that Antoine Desrosiers was an educated man and a soldier. In the year 1645, he and two other men were paid one hundred pounds per year at Trois Rivieres by the Jesuits to erect some buildings. In one other point in time, he was contracted to build a windmill for the Jesuit fathers as Master Carpenter and with the assistance of Guillaume Larue, at St. Elroy. This was to be accomplished in his own time.

On November 24, 1647, the marriage treaty of Antoine Desrosiers and Anne du Herisson of Thiery, Normandy, was drawn up by the Notary, Flour Boujonnier (who died five years later), followed by marriage in the Roman Catholic church. The Historians insist that the marriage took place in Trois Rivieres in 1649, but, the civil law act being in default, no one can say for certain.

Michel Le Neuf du Herisson, father of the bride, promised the following dowry: 500 pounds in silver, two wardrobes for Anne plus those she already had; a mattress and pillows; two blankets; twelve sheets; six tablecloths; three dozen towels; twelve plates; twelve dishes and one pot, all of pewter; a cow with calf, three of which to choose from; and a pregnant sow.

Witness to the contract and signed by, Michel Le Neuf du Herisson and his brother Jacques Le Neuf dela Poterie, Jacques Hertel, Gaspard Boucher, Adrien Duchesne, Thomas Godefroy de Normanville, Jean Poutrel, Jean Amiot, Pierre Boucher, Pierre Lefebvre, Pierre Le Gardeur de Reptigny and the Notary Boujonnier. Bertrand Fafard and Guillaume Isabel do not sign but make their mark. (A note of interest: Guillaume Isabel will be grandfather to the wife of Antoine's son 'Antoine Desrosiersdit Lafreniere, Marie Renee LEPELLE dite DESMAREST.)

On September 20, 1648, Desrosiers took part in an election to form a council of trustees to defend the inhabitants of the town of Trois Rivieres. About this time, Antoine Desrosiers was given some land on higher ground in the village and also another tract of land at Cap de Madeleine.

The Governor, Louis d'Ailleboust, gave our ancestor five acres of river frontage in the suburb of Trois Rivieres on the right bank of St. Maurice on October 28, 1649, for a total of 20 acres. Another five acres was added to this acreage on July 28, 1658, but, a Judgement of the Sovereign Council in June 28, 1664 reduced this land to the original twenty acres. (In the city of today, this land is situated between Jean Le Marchand street of Verenes and of Gannes, a part of the Plateau situated between the Normandville Boulevard and the Canadian Pacific Railroad.)

Iroquois attack In the spring of 1650 ,the town made plans to erect a palisade to protect themselves from an Iroquois attack. On the preceding August 11th Jean Bauvaget, Antoine Desrosiers, and Etienne Seign-euret promised to supply 500 cedar posts, 11 feet long, for the sum of 15 pounds each, to the Agent of New France, Pierre Boucher. The contract signed in the presence of Jacques de la Poterie, Commandant of the Fort. Boucher promised to lend two oxen to transport the lumber from the Cap (which was near the house of Sieur du Herrison) to the banks of the water at the foot of the Fort.

The Jesuit Journal reports that a servant of Desrosiers, Matherin, was killed by the Iroquois by two bullets in the chest, and a hatchet wound in his head. He had gone to shoot crows in the field of his master.

In the Register of Severin Ameau, two Concessions of land were granted to Antoine Desrosiers by Governor Pierre Boucher de Grosbois. The first he received on July 28, 1656, twenty-five acres in Trois Rivieres (near the property of Claude David of Elie Grimard and deceased Marin de Repentigny dit Francheville). On June 8, 1657 Pierre Boucher gave Antoine Desrosiers another five acres of frontage by twenty acres deep at the Fifth River (in the Community of Lac St Pierre Ltd., today - in the N.E. of Sables River, a part of the village of Pointe du Lac).

On Tuesday, June 27, 1659, news reached Trois Rivieres that three hunters had been captured by the Iroquois on the Isle of Richelieu. Saturday, August 16, 1659, news reached Quebec that one of the hunters had escaped from the Iroquois, going by way of Lake Ontario and that he had arrived at Trois Rivieres. This man was Antoine Desrosiers.

About 1663, Antoine Desrosiers obtained land from his wife's uncle Jacques de la Poterie, on the Isle of Pigs, neighbour to Pierre Disy, facing Cap de Madeleine (precisely where Wavagmach Consolidated Paper Factory is today).

In 1665, the nobelman Antoine Desrosiers left Trois Rivieres to assist Sieur Bezar of Champlain in the Colonization movement. And, on February 9, 1667, Antoine sold his land in the town of Trois Rivieres to Michel Godefroid de Lintot. In 1669, Antoine was in charge of fiscal matters in the township of Champlain. And, on August 14, 1676 the Lord Michelde la Prane accords him a Concession at Gentilly. The land obtained from Sieur Quentin Moral de St. Quentin, Larble a-la-Croix on June 8, 1669, he almost immediately transferred to Pierre Prou.

Antoine's death Towards the end of his life Antoine Desrosiers, known for his honesty and wisdom, was given the post of Judge in the Signeurie of Champlain. It was at Champlain where he was buried on August 9, 1691, at the age of 72 years, with his family in attendance. On September 24, 1691, the Notary David Normandin made an inventory of his wealth.

After the death of her husband Antoine, Anne Le Neuf du Herisson Desrosiers called upon Guillaume Pepin to draw up a declaration that her father had given her the sum of 500 pounds silver at the signing of her marriage contract, as the original document had been destroyed in the fire of her father's house. The declaration is inscribed in the Minutes of the Notary Ameau dated August 15, 1691. Anne died October 16, 1711 and was buried in the Parish of Champlain, P.Q.

Anne, wife of Antoine Desrosiers was the daughter of Michel Le Neuf du Herisson de la Poterie. There is no reference to her mother. But, Father Godbout believes that Anne is the child of a misalliance. Her grandparents, Mathieu Michel Le Neuf and Jeanne LeMarchant were of the sixth generations, according to Father Godbout.

Colonizing New France Anne was born in 1632 at Thierry, Normandy. On June 12, 1636, with her father Michel, she arrived in Canada along with a group of Nobility and servants, including her widowed grandmother Jeanne Le Marchant; her uncle, Jacques Le Neuf dela Poterie, married to Marguerite LeGardeur;her aunt, Marie, married December 15, 1636 to Jean Godefroy de Lintot; and her aunt Madeleine, married to Jean Poutrel, Nobleman of Columbier of Caen and their son Guy. In all, fourty-five people arrived in Canada to colonize the new country. They landed in Quebec where Mass and Benediction was celebrated for their safe arrival.

Various spellings of the name Herisson beginning in the 12th Century are as follows: - Ronnaison, Roannezon, Roannaizon, Ronoysons, Ronoyson, Renozoni and from the 15th Century - Renayson, Reneyson; in the 1700's Renaison and Arraison in the 1800's. The one used in Canada was Herisson, but is also listed in the Armorial Du Bourbonnais by the Comte de Soultrait, Moulins, 1890. Tome I, page 87 "CHATELLENIES D'HERRISSON,de GANNAT".

The ship carrying Michel Leneuf sieur du Herrison, widower, and his kinsmen, having left Dieppe April 8, 1636, arrived in Quebec the 12th June 1636. His brother Jacques de la Poteries was a man of influence in the new world. Michel was born in 1601, at Caen, Normandy. He became one of the leading citizens of Three Rivers, Quebec.

In Quebec, on 11 December 1636, he married Jeanne Marchand. While still in Normandy, he was given the title of Master of the Baronnie de Portneuf by the Company of New France on 15 January 1636. This was the land on the left bank of the St. Lawrence River, between Quebec and Three Rivers (Trois Rivieres).

(1645 Map of New France http://www.pc.gc.ca/apprendre-learn/proj/d-q/outils-tools2a_e.asp)

Michel Leneuf sieur de la Poterie, along with 14 of his kinsmen, became a part of the Communaute* (the fur monopoly ceded to the individual inhabitants of the country but "only jointly"). In accepting the monopoly "la Communaute des Habitants", the responsibility and obligations of the one Hundred Associates was also assumed. They would cover the costs, both in France and in Canada, of the administration of the Colony; it would see to the payment of the governor and military officers, to the maintenance of the forts and garrison and the upkeep of the ecclesiastics, to whom it would pay the same annual allowance they had received from the Hundred Associates. It would have the same responsibility for settlement, being bound to bring twenty persons of either sex to the colony each year; and then, since the lands of the St. Lawrence still belonged to the Hundred Associates, the Communaute would report annually on the state of their defences. The treaty was to take effect in 1645, on the day the first ship belonging to the Communaute arrived in Tadoussac from France.

The Communaute was to be composed of those "recognized as habitants du pays" and qualified thereby for membership in the company, but in fact it comprised only a small group of business men, fifteen at most according to a 1646 petition. They were the same men who,before 1645 had succeeded in supplanting a subsidiary company established by the Hundred Associates for the St. Lawrence trade. These business men soon formed a powerful consortium in the colony, reinforced by the ties of kinship.

In the two years, the Communaute reigned, 1645 and 1646, their purses were richer by 544,000 livres, two thirds of the total cost of furs sent to France.

Michel moved to Cap Rouge in 1650 and remained there until 1658. In June 1650, four domestics of M Herrison stole a canoe, supplies, guns and blankets, crossed the river from Cap Rouge and slipped away during the night, never to be seen again.

On May 1, 1653, Monsieur du Herisson, with two other men reported the burning of some barns at Trois Rivieres.

Michel Leneuf u Herisson de la Poterie (to give him his full name) acted as Governor General of Montreal and also Three Rivers, from July 7, 1668.**

http://livingstonaliveandwell.blogspot.com/2012/02/further-detailsa... riday, 3 February 2012

Further details about Antoine Desrosiers

and his accomplishments

Where did Antoine Desrosiers come from? One American descendant, who has done extensive research on the family, claims that Antoine was born on 14 April 1617 at Forez, the son of Antoine and of Sophie Trou. Others claim that he was originally from Renaison, a town in the Department of the Loire, District of Roanne, Province of Auvergne. Both Forez and Renaison are nearby Lyon so it is safe to assume that he was born in that region.

("berceau" means cradle - this picture was taken from Doreen's research)

Based on Our French-Canadian Ancestors (Vol. II, Chapter 8) by Thomas J. Laforest, Antoine was an active and practical man, and lost no time in being accepted among his companions, both as a colonist and a carpenter. The time he had spent with the Jesuits, serving as a domestic, had given him knowledge of the country: the land, the climate, the people.

On 2 June 1650, Desrosiers purchased a pied-a-terre on the northwest side of the market town of Trois-Rivieres on Rue Notre-Dame. This plot was 128 square arpents (about 128 acres) on which he built a house and a very small stable. Seventeen years later, he sold it to Michel Godefroy dit Lintot for 150 livres (pounds).

As stated in Doreen's account, Antoine had been captured along with two other hunters by the Iroquois in 1659 and in the 1650's, there were several Iroquois attacks in this region. The Governor de Lauzon ordered all able-bodied men from the ages of 16 to 60 to stand as nightwatchmen to protect the inhabitants of Trois-Rivieres and Antoine was amongst the many who participated. While Antoine managed to escape after eleven weeks of capture, his companions were not as fortunate: one was tortured and the other put to death by fire. No historian could ever depict accurately the anguish and the suffering of our ancestor and his family during those eleven weeks of his absence.

As a Master Carpenter, Antoine demonstrated his engineering talents in the community. Along with the assistance of Guillaume Larue, Antoine constructed a windmill for the Jesuit Fathers at the Pointe de Sainte-Eloy in 1668 according to the careful specifications of Father Beschefer, S.J. . Without trying to identify the many assorted pieces needed for windmill construction, there were two challenging items to be built: the two sails, 48 feet long, only 9 inches thick at the middle and 10 inches at the ends. Father Beschefer was very strict with the carpenters and judged their work in detail as suggested by one of his written instructions: “the hole (must be) well and duly squared and planed according to the judgment of the experts thus signed" (see Nos Ancestres: Antoine Desrosiers online for further details).

Antoine's energy was absolutely astounding. In 1667, Desrosiers lived at Cap-de-La-Madeleine, where he owned a farm with 5 animals and he was the father of 8 children. His son Michel had replaced the farm hand, Jacaues Bourdin, on the family farm. In 1669, he became fiscal manager, a position which he filled until his death, as the new seigneurie of Champlain. He was also a trustee and a seigneurial judge. By this time, Desrosiers had two domestics, four rifles, four pistols, nine animals and forty arpents (one arpent = 0.85 acres) of land under cultivation. With so many firearms, one must assume that the family was well versed in hunting and self-protection. Perhaps his experience with the Iroquois made him more alert to unexpected happenstance.

When Antoine arrived in New France, he could not sign his name; therefore the presumption of illiteracy is logical. After some years, his signature appears quite legibly on numerous documents. By 1670, he held important administrative duties and books at a time when they were considered rare commodities. Thus, it is likely that his literacy abilities increased over time.

Upon his death, amongst his belongings included some works on law and history, the Coutume de Paris in two volumes, the Ordinances Civile, and six small books by various authors. Obviously, Antoine had understood the value of an education and sent his daughter Marie to study under the Ursuline.

Anotine also admired justice and detested deceit. For example, a disagreement arose concerning his neighbour, Helie Grimard and the matter was brought before Notary Ameau. The issue according to http://genealogistes-associes.ca/histoire/grimard/grimardh.php was

"The dispute concerned the alignment of the concessions granted to them. Antoine Desrosiers claimed as his own a tract of land he had cleared and that was found to belong to Helie Grimard. At least the official opinion issued by Gentlemen of the Sovereign Council. The judgment, Desrosiers was willing to comply, but it was he had done the clearing for his neighbor. Where new baffles, new disputes. Fortunately, we arrived at an agreement. Desrosiers will enjoy another year of three acres of cleared land on Grimard. Meanwhile, it will clear three acres of land owned by Antoine Desrosiers Champlain. A notarized contract first went to Quebec in the spring of in 1665. It is confirmed by the notary Ameau on 17 November."

It is quite evident that Antoine's wife Anne came from a wealthy family. Anne, probably born in Caen, was only 4 years old when she disembarked for New France with her father in 1636. The family lived at Trois-Rivieres for more than 15 years and for a time early in their marriage, Anne and Antoine lived in a house belonging to Jacques Hertel. On August 10, 1651, Jacques died suddenly in the house of his tenant, Antoine Desrosiers. The large dowry received (as described by Doreen) must have made the newlyweds happy, considering the poverty in which most of the early settlers found themselves. Anne's father, Michel Leneuf, was one of the largest landowners in New France. On 9 March 1652, Michel Leneuf granted himself the littoral and all the Islands from Miscou to New Brunswick, actually as far as Cap-des-Rosiers in the Gaspe. In 1663, says Marcel Trudel writing in "Le Terrier du Saint-Laurent," Hertel owned more than 807,514 arpents of land, something to make an Emir of the Persian Gulf envious. He was also a commercial brewer.

NEXT UP: INFORMATION ABOUT ANTOINE AND ANNE DESROSIERS' CHILDREN


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Il serait né entre 1617 et 1619. Aucune information sur la date de son mariage, sauf un contrat de mariage daté du 24-11-1647 passé à Trois-Rivières, Québec.

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Selon Fichier Origine:
Baptême 30-8-1620
L'acte de baptême de 1620, qui pourrait être celui du pionnier, a été découvert par Nicole Morel-Desrosiers et Jean-Pierre Morel en 2007. Acte incertain et non filiatif en raison de l'absence des noms de ses parents à son contrat de mariage en Nouvelle-France. L'acte du du 14-04-1617 cité par Ferdinand Desrosiers serait celui d'un certain Antoine Denise fils d'Antoine et de Philippex. Le contrat de mariage du migrant est cité dans un acte du notaire Ameau daté du 15-08-1691. (Fichier Origine)
Tirée de l'une des nombreuses appellations du patronyme Desrosiers, la lignée de Lafrenière que nous avons retenue ici, l'une des plus anciennes, sinon la plus ancienne, aurait pour racine, l'ancêtre Antoine Desrosiers dit Lafresnière.

L'ancêtre contracta mariage avec Anne Leneuf du Herrisson devant le notaire Boujonnier à Trois-Rivières et se marièrent le 24 novembre 1647.

Le couple donna le jour à huit enfants, entre 1650 et 1672, dont au moins trois fils se marièrent et fondèrent des familles.
Antoine, né en 1664, à Trois-Rivières, épousa Marie Renée Lepellé Desmarais, en 1696.
Ils eurent onze enfants. Pierre, né en 1719, à Sorel, prit pour épouse, en premières noces, Geneviève Casaubon, le 18 janvier 1744 et en secondes noces, le 21 janvier 1759, à Berthierville, Marie-Madeleine Boucher.
Les descendants de cette lignée de Lafrenière se répartirent dans les régions de Champlain, Sorel et aussi Berthier

Acte incertain et non filiatif en raison de l'absence du nom de ses parents en Nouvelle-France. Le contrat de mariage du pionnier est cité dans un acte du 15-08-1691 greffe Séverin Ameau,à Trois-Rivières. L'acte de baptême, daté du 14-04-1617 à Renaison (Loire), est celui d'Antoine DENISE (Antoine & Philippe ...).


Né vers 1619 à Renaison, sur la rivière Renaison qui se jette dans la Loire. Il arrive au Canada en 1641 comme employé des Peres Jésuites. En 1645 il s'établit aux Trois-Rivieres. Il prit une terre à la haute-ville et une autre au Cap de la Madeleine.

Le 2septembre 1648 Il s'est marié à Anne LeNeuf duHérisson, née en 1649, fille de Michel Mathieu LeNeuf et Jeanne LeMarchand.

Antoine Desrosiers est décédé le 9 aout 1691, à Champlain (Seigneurie de Champlain), Quebec, Canada. Il y exerçait les fonctions de juge.

Les descendants de Michel Desrosiers (2e enfant d'Antoine) prirent le nom de "Desilets" Donc a été le père de la famille "Désilets"), ceux de Jean Desrosiers (4e enfant) celui des "duTremble" et Antoine Desrosiers prirent le nom de "Lafrenière" et ceux de Pierre Desrosiers (8e enfant) prirent le nom de "Dargy".

About Antoine Desrosiers, II (Français)

Deronzier dit Grollier: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Desrosiers-17

Documents: https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Desrosiers-Photos-17

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ANTOINE DESROSIERS ET ANNE DU HÉRISSON

Fiche de famille

Époux: Antoine Desrosiers Naissance: 1617-1619 à: Renaison, Région de la Loire, France Baptême: à: Décès: 1691-08-08 à: Champlain, Qc Sépulture: 1691-08-09 à: Champlain, Qc

       Ref:                              Occupation: Juge                       

Père: Antoine Desrosiers Mère: Sylvie Trou

Contrat de mariage: 1647-11-24 à: Trois-Rivières, Qc Notaire Audouard, notaire Flour Boujonnier

Épouse: Anne du Hérisson Naissance: 1631 à: Thyru, Normandie, France Décès: 1711-10-16 à: Champlain, Qc Sépulture: 1711-10-16 à: Champlain, Qc

Père: Michel Leneuf, Sieur du Hérisson Mère: inconnue

Enfant 1 Marie Desrosiers Baptême: 1650-06-16 à: Trois-Rivières, Qc Inhumation : 1722-11-28 à: N-D de la Visitation, Champlain, Qc Conjoint[e]: Alexandre Rault n. 1633-12-18 d. 1692-01-05 Mariage: 1664-02-19 à: Trois-Rivières, Qc Contrat de mariage: 1664-01-19 par le notaire Ameau

Enfant 2 Michel Desrosiers dit Désilets Baptème: 1652-09-03 à: Trois-Rivières, Qc Décès: 1734-02-11 à: Champlain, Qc Conjoint[e]: Marie-Jeanne-Thomasse Artaut n. 1665 d. 1750 Contrat de mariage: 1679-01-14 par le notaire Antoine Adhémar

Enfant 3 Joseph Desrosiers Naissance: 1655 à: Baptême: 1655-07-29 à: Trois-Rivières, Qc Décès: vers 1656 à:

Enfant 4 Jean Desrosiers dit Dutremble Naissance: 1657-09-29 à: Trois-Rivières, Qc Baptême: 1657-09-30 à: Trois-Rivières, Qc Décès: 1704-02-23 à: Champlain, Qc Sépulture: 1704-02-24 à: Champlain, Qc Occupation: coureur des bois Conjoint[e]: Françoise Dandonneau n. 1665-01-03 d. 1711-05-08 Mariage: 1682-01-20 à: Champlain, Qc

Enfant 5 Anne Desrosiers Naissance: 1661-11-12 à: Trois-Rivières, Qc Baptême: 1661-11-12 à: Trois-Rivières, Qc Décès: 1731-02-23 à: Champlain, Qc Sépulture: 1731-02-24 à: Champlain, Qc Conjoint[e]: Jacques Turcot n. 1652-09-04 d. 1699-04-05 Mariage: 1678 à: Champlain, Qc Contrat de mariage: 1674-04-04 par le notaire Guillaume de Larue Conjoint[e]: Jean-Baptiste Debidabé dit Troyville n. 1650 Mariage: 1702-04-24 à: Champlain, Qc Contrat de mariage: 1702-04-23 par le notaire Daniel Normandin

Enfant 6 Antoine Desrosiers dit Lafresnière Naissance: 1664-08-30 à: Trois-Rivières, Qc Baptême: 1664-08-30 à: Trois-Rivières, Qc Décès: avant 1742 à:

Occupation: Officier de milice 1731 Conjoint[e]: Marie-Renée Lepelle n. 1664-08-30 d. 1755 Mariage: 1696-11-26 à: Champlain, Qc Contrat de mariage:1696-11-25 par le notaire Daniel Normandin

Enfant 7 Pierre Desrosiers Naissance: 1667 à: Décès: 1723 à: Bécancour, Qc Conjoint[e]: Marguerite Aubuchon n. 1671 d. 1757-09-11 Mariage: 1693-04-27 à: Champlain, Qc

Enfant 8 Marie-Jeanne Desrosiers Naissance: 1671 à: Décès: à: Conjoint[e]: Claude Drouet Sieur de Richerville n. 1665 Mariage: 1687-03-18 à: Champlain, Qc Contrat de mariage: 1688-08-27 par le notaire Louis de Merromont

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DESROSIERS / DERONZIER, Antoine

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Statut Marié Date de baptême 30-08-1620 Lieu d'origine Noailly (St-Pierre) (Loire) 42157 Parents Jean DERONZIER et ... Première mention au pays 1641 Occupation à l'arrivée Engagé des Jésuites Date de mariage 24-11-1647 Lieu du mariage Trois-Rivières (contrat Boujonnier) Conjoint Anne Leneuf du Hérisson Décès ou inhumation Champlain, 08-08-1691 Remarques Acte incertain et non filiatif en raison de l'absence du nom de ses parents en Nouvelle-France. Le contrat de mariage du pionnier est cité dans un acte du 15-08-1691 greffe Séverin Ameau, à Trois-Rivières. L'acte de baptême, daté du 14-04-1617 à Renaison (Loire), est celui d'Antoine DENISE (Antoine & Philippe ...). Identification* DGFQ, p. 348 Chercheur(s) Nicole Morel-Desrosiers, Jean-Pierre Morel Référence* MSGFC, vol. 58, no 4, p. 327-330 Copie d'acte AD-42 numérisé Dossier d'archive numérisé Date de modification 2016-09-06

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Antoine Desrosiers

               By Thomas J. Laforest (Vol. II, Chapter 8)

On that autumn evening in 1645, at Quebec, Father Jerome Lallemant was thinking about the missionary staff in New France. He thought about the community of Trois-Rivieres where three domestic servants were employed, who earned 100 livres each per year. And then he wrote the name of "Ant. des Rosiers." This Father Lallemant, whom the Hurons called "Achiendasse," was the new Superior of the Jesuits in Canada ever since 1644. Did this great missionary know Antoine Desrosiers? Perhaps he met him in the summer of 1645 while passing through Trois-Rivieres on his way back to Huron country.
Desrosiers, after his arrival in the colony, had settled in the Quebec region. Antoine's name appeared in the baptismal book at Sillery, where, on 10 January, 1642 he is called "A servant in this house." This minute detail allows us to fix the arrival of ancestor Desrosiers at about 1641, when he would have been about 24 years old.
Where did this man come from? One American descendant, who has done extensive research on the family, claims that Antoine was born on 14 April 1617 at Forez, the son of Antoine and of Sophie Trou. Others claim that he was originally from Renaison, a town in the Department of the Loire, District of Roanne, Province of Auvergne. Both Forez and Renaison are nearby Lyon.
Antoine, an active and practical man, lost no time in being accepted among his trifluvien companions, both as a colonist and a carpenter. The time he had spent with the Jesuits, serving as a domestic, had given him a knowledge of the country: the land, the climate, the people. He was a man who would fly on his own wings.
On the 28th of October, 1649, Monsieur D'Ailleboust, at the Chateau Saint-Louis I Quebec, granted Antoine, in writing, a piece of land of 20 square arpents for cultivation. It was located on the right bank of the Saint-Maurice River, on the outskirts of Trois-Rivieres. This grant was approved by Pierre Boucher on the 28th of July, 1656. Antoine paid 6 deniers in "cens."
The next year, on 2 June 1650, Desrosiers found himself a pied-a-terre in the market town of Trois-Rivieres on Rue Notre-Dame, northwest side. This plot was 128 feet square, on which he built a house and a very small stable. Seventeen years later he sold it to Michel Godefroy dit Lintot for 150 livres. It was on this very same spot that Major of the Militia of Trois-Rivieres, Monsieur de Gannes, built his house in 1756.
On 8 June 1657, Antoine obtained a concession of 10 arpents at Riviere-aux-Sables, Point du Lac, from Pierre Boucher. Pierre Lefebvre and Guillaume Pepin already had some land in this corner of Lac-Saint-Pierre. The financial obligation of our concessionaire was but to pay 10 deniers of "cens" per arpent of frontage. Urbain Beaudry acquired this land in 1674 for 50 livres.
In April of 1664, on the Ile-aux-Cochons at the mouth of the Saint-Maurice River, Desrosiers acquired a small strip of land between Pierre Dizy and Jacques Leneuf. Finally, Quentin Morel granted him a plot of land at l'Arbre-a-la-croix, the former fief of Jacques Hertel at Cap-de-la-Madeleine, land which he then sold to Pierre Proulx on 3 September 1679 for 300 livres. This plot was 5 arpents wide by 40 deep.
According to the words of Father Charlevoix, the Iroquois, " Came like foxes. Fought like lions and fled like birds."
Their rolling river roads were the Richelieu and the Saint-Lawrence. The situation was most tragic for a long time.
"On the 7th of August, 1651, there was killed by the Iroquois at Trois-Rivieres, one Maturin, the domestic of Antoine des Rosiers. Having left at 4 o'clock in the morning to go and shoot crows in his fields, he was found dead on the road, with two shots in his chest and a tomahawk in his head."
This tragedy is only one of many reported in the Jesuit Journals. We know that in 1653 Governor de Lauzon ordered all able-bodied men, 16 to 60 to stand night watches in Trois-Rivieres. Antoine took up his duties just like the others.
"A canoe has arrived from Trois-Rivieres which informs us...that Antoine des Rosiers was rescued from the hands of the Onondagas near Lake Ontario and that he has returned to Trois-Rivieres."
As a matter of fact, Antoine had been captured around the 26th of May at Lac-Saint-Pierre, along with two other companions, of whom one was tortured and put to death by fire. We could never depict accurately enough the anguish and the suffering of our ancestor and his family during those eleven weeks of his absence. This adventure reminded Antoine of the fact that he had asked too quickly for an inventory of the assets of Adrien Jolliet the preceding year. On 13 June 1658, Jolliet had been taken away "that day." We know that the latter had pulled through alive, and that he married Jeanne Dodier in January, 1664.
Master Carpenter
In 1634 Champlain ordered La Violette to build a small fort at Trois-Rivieres, and it was done. In 1649 Pierre Boucher, agent and clerk of the Company of New France, wanted a fortfied enclosure for the defense of the town. Thus he commissioned Desrosiers, Sauvaget and Signoret to supply and deliver 500 stakes "11 feet long" to the foot of the fort commanded by Jacques Leneuf. Two oxen, some rope and strong arms--that is all this task required of the contractors. Price: 15 livres per hundred stakes.
On another, more interesting occasion, Antoine was permitted to demonstrate his engineering talents. In 1668, as a master carpenter, he and Guillaume Larue undertook the construction of a windmill for the Jesuit Fathers at the Pointe de Sainte-Eloy, "away from the danger of the tide." according to the careful specifications of Father Beschefer, S.J. Without trying to identify the forty or so different pieces that go into the construction of the windmill, let us mention only the two sails, 48 feet long, with but 9 inches at the middle and 10 inches at the ends.
"The hole (must be) well and duly squared and planed according to the judgment of the experts thus signed."
Citizens of Champlain
Antoine's energy was absolutely astounding. On the 17th of March 1665, Antoine Pezard mad 50 grants in Champlain, one of which, 3 arpents in frontage by 40 deep, went to our ancestor. In 1667, Desrosiers lived at Cap-de-La-Madeleine, where he owned, according to the census, 15 cultivated arpents and 5 animals. His son Michel had replaced the farm hand, Jacaues Bourdin, for the work on the family farm. In 1668, therefore, Antoine became a colonist of Champlain. On 29 August 1669 he was named fiscal manager of the new seigneurie, a position which he filled until his death. He was also a trustee and a seigneurial judge.
When Antoine arrived in New France he could not sign his name; therefore the presumption of illiteracy is logical. After some years we see his signature appearing quite legibly on numerous documents. Given the administrative responsibilities he assumed, plus the fact that he owned books at a time when their very presence was a rarity, we must assume that he was a self-taught literate of considerable talent. Upon his death, an inventory listed these tomes: some works on law and history, the Coutume de Paris in two volumes, the Ordinances Civile, and six small books by various authors. Antoine had understood the value of an education. As a result, he sent his daughter Marie to study under the Ursuline.
A Family to be Loved
Antoine had a heart. He admired justice and detested chicanery. An example would be his agreement before Notary Ameau in regard to a problem arising between Helie Grimard and himself.
On 24 November 1647, Notary Flour Boujonnier (who died five years later in the disastrous expedition of Duplessis-Keebodot against the Iroquois) drew up a
"contract of marriage which, God willing, will be made in the presence of our Holy Mother, the most Catholic, Roman and Apostolic Church, between Antoine Desrosiers, native of Bourg de Ranaison, in the vicinity of Lyon in France, and Anne du Herisson, a native of Bourg de Thierry in Normandy."
Michel Leneuf du Herisson, father of the young woman, bestowed upon his future son-in-law
"a dowry of 500 livres in cash, plus two suits of clothes, a mattress with bolster, two blankets and twelve sheets, six tablecloths, three dozen napkins, twelve plates, twelve dishes, and a pot, all of pewter; the best one of three pregnant heifers and a pregnant sow;"
All of which certainly must have made the newlyweds happy, considering the poverty in which most of the early settlers found themselves. Michel Leneuf, Squire de Herisson, as well as his brother, Jacques Leneuf de la Poterie, signed the contract along with Jacques Hertel, Gaspard Boucher, Adrien Duchesne, Thomas Godefroy de Normanville, Jean Poutrel, Jean Amiot, Pierre Boucher, Pierre Lefebvre, Pierre Le Gardeur de Repentigny, and the Notary Boujonnierl. Bertrand Fafard and Guillaume Isabel had to content themselves with making their marks.
Antoine actually married Anne Leneuf in 1649. Her father, in addition to being one of the largest landowners in New France, was also a commercial brewer.
On 9 March 1652, this Michel Leneuf granted himself the littoral and all the Islands from Miscou to New Brunswick, actually as far as Cap-des-Rosiers in the Gaspe. In 1663, says Marcel Trudel writing in "Le Terrier du Saint-Laurent," Hertel owned more than 807,514 aprents of land, something to make an Emir of the Persian Gulf envious.
Anne, probably born at Caen in 1642, was only 4 years old when she disembarked at Quebec with her father in 1636. Therefore she must be considered a "Canadienne." The family lived at Trois-Rivieres for more than 15 years. For a time they lived in a house belonging to Jacques Hertel. History tells us that, on the 10th of August 1651, Jacques died suddenly in the house of his tenant, Desrosiers. In 1681 the census mentions that Antoine lived with his wife and four children at Champlain. The colonist Desrosiers had tow domestics, four rifles, four pistols, nine animals and forty arpents of land under cultivation. With so many firearms one must assume that the family was well versed in hunting and self-protection.
Anne and Antoine had 8 children:
1. Marie, baptized on 16 June 1650 at Trois-Rivieres, married Alexandre Rault on 19 February 1664 at Trois-Rivieres (contract 19 January by Ameau). They had ten children: 4 boys and 6 girls.
2. Michel, baptized on 3 September 1652 at Trois-Rivieres, married Marie-Thomasse Artault on 14 January 1679 at Champlain. They had nine children: 4 boys and 5 girls. Michel added the surname Desilets to his already distinguished family name.
3. Joseph, baptized on 29 July 1655 at Trois-Rivieres, died at an early age. Joseph was no longer with the family when the census was taken in 1666.
4. Jean, born on 29 September 1657 and baptized the next day at Trois-Rivieres, married Marie-Francoise Dandonneau on 20 January 1682 at Champlain. They had ten children: 7 boys and 3 girls. Jean added the surname Dutremble to his family name.
5. Anne, born on 12 November 1661 and baptized the same day at Trois-Rivieres, married Jacques Turcot on 4 April 1674 at Champlain (contract the same day by LaRue). They had eleven children: 5 boys and 6 girls.
6. Antoine, born on 30 August 1664 and baptized the same day at Trois-Rivieres, married Marie-Renee Lepelle on 26 November 1696 at Champlain (contract the previous day by Normandin). They had eleven children: 5 boys and 6 girls. Antoine added the surname Lafresniere to his family name.
7. Pierre, born around 1667, married Marguerite Aubuchon on 27 April 1693 at Champlain (contract the previous day by Normandin). They had nine children: 3 boys and 6 girls. Pierre added the surname Dargy to his family name.
8. Marie-Jeanne, born around 1671, married Claude Drouet on 18 March 1687 at Champlain (contract 27 August 1688 by Merommont). They had eleven children: 8 boys and 3 girls.
Around the year 1683, sons Antoine and Jean signed up to go out to the Illinois country.
Some Roses from the Rosebush
The ancestor Desrosiers, covered with honors, was buried at Champlain on the 9th of August, 1691, at the age of about 72. As for Anne Leneuf, we don't know about her demise. We believe her to have been alive in Champlain in 1701 when "the widow Desrosiers" gave a half minot of grain to the church, for the poor.
The Desrosiers spread into all of the Quebec region, into the Maritimes and into New England, where their descendants are very numerous. Desrosiers have distinguished themselves in different sectors of society.
Let us mention Leo-Paul Desrosiers (1896-1967), a native of Berthier-in-Haut, husband of Antoinette Tardif, curator of the municipal library of Montreal, a columnist of the newspaper, Devoir, author of several works, among which are Les Opiniatres and Les Engages du Grand Portage. In Trois-Rivieres, on Boulevard Turcotte, if you happen by the monument to the Sieur de la Verendry, remember that, in 1647, ancestor Desrosiers owned this land.
End Notes
Adhemar, 14 August 1679; 8 December 1679
Ameau, 28 July 1656; 8 June 1857; 2 April 1664; 17 March 1665; 17 November 1665; 9 February 1667; 25 July 1674; 18 July 1678; 15 August 1691.
Audouart, 24 November 1647; 1 August 1649; 28 October 1649.
Boujonnier, 24 November 1647.


. BRH, Volume 6, pages 227 to 231; Volume 8, page 286;

   Volume 15, page 59; Volume 21, page 107; Volume 34, page 252.


. CD, Volume 24, page 109; Volume 29, page 58; Volume 33,, page 246.
Cloutier, Histoire de Champlain, Volume 1, pages 32, 52, 61, 83 & 88.
Cusson, 8 June 1669; 20 July 1671.
Douville, Daily Life etc., pages 24, 103, 347.
Duquet, 7 November 1665.
Gatineau, 2 June 1650.
Godbout, AG-TR, pages 55 to 57.

. JJ, pages 6, 158, 261.

.RAPQ, JDCSNF, Vol 1, pages 218-219; Vol 2, page 223.
Roy, P.-G., ICPJ, Volume 1, page 15; Papier Terrier de la Compagnie des Indes Occidentales, pages 290, 369.
Scott, H.-A., Notre-Dame de Sainte-Foy, Volume 1, page 311.
Seguin, R.-L., La civilization traditionelle, etc., pages 403, and 425

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Antoine Desrosiers, II's Timeline

1617
April 14, 1617
Renaison,Roanne,Forez,France
April 14, 1617
Noailly, Loire, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, France
1650
June 16, 1650
Trois-Rivières, Quebec, Canada
1652
September 3, 1652
Trois-Rivières, Champlain, Quebec, Canada
1655
July 29, 1655
Les Trois Rivières, Nouvelle-France
1657
September 29, 1657
Trois-Rivières, Mauricie Region, Quebec, Canada
1661
November 12, 1661
Trois-Rivières, Francheville Regional County Municipality, Quebec, Canada
1664
August 30, 1664
Trois Rivières, Francheville Regional County Municipality, QC, Canada
August 30, 1664
Trois-Rivières, Québec, Canada