Alexander Montgomerie, 1st Lord Montgomerie of Auchterhouse

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Note: "Sir John Montgomerie Irvine of Drum" by McCormick says that Alexander Montgomerie, 1st Lord Montgomerie, is son of Agnes of the Isles. Isenburg agrees. Other authorities disagree.

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Alexander Montgomerie, 1st Lord Montgomerie

Alexander Montgomerie, 1st Lord Montgomerie (died 1470?) was a Scottish nobleman and diplomat.

He was the eldest son of Sir John Montgomerie of Ardrossan, by his wife Agnes, daughter of John of Islay, Lord of the Isles.[1] In 1425 he was chosen a member of the privy council of James I. He succeeded his father some time before 22 November 1429, and in August 1430 he was, jointly with his brother-in-law, Sir Robert Cunningham of Kilmaurs, appointed governor of Cantyre and Knapdale.[2]

On 30 November 1436 Montgomerie was appointed a commissioner to conclude a treaty with England, and he was one of the conservators of the truce concluded on 31 March for nine years. With the other Scottish commissioners he received the present of a silver cup from Henry VI of England. On 5 February 1444 he had a safe-conduct to go to Durham to treat for the extension of the truce and the return of the Scottish hostages.[2]

In 1444 Montgomerie was appointed keeper of Brodick Castle on the Isle of Arran. He was one of those who set their seals to instruments passed by the parliament held at Perth, Scotland on 9 June 1445 against the lords who had rebelled against James II. He was created a lord of parliament by the title of Lord Montgomerie some time before 3 July 1445; and on 14 August 1451 he was a conservator for a truce with England, and in subsequent years he was sent to England on further embassies. He died about 1470.[2]

With his wife Margaret, Montgomerie had three or four sons and three daughters:[2]

• Alexander, master of Montgomerie and father of Hugh Montgomerie, 1st Earl of Eglinton;
• George, ancestor of the Montgomeries of Skelmorlie;
• Thomas, parson of Eaglesham, and rector of the university of Glasgow;
• John of Giffen (doubtful);
• Margaret, married to John Stewart, 1st Earl of Lennox;
• Elizabeth, to Gilbert Kennedy, 1st Lord Kennedy; and
• Agnes, to William Cunningham of Glengarnock.[2]

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Montgomerie,_1st_Lord_Montgo...

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• Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, Volume 38
• Montgomerie, Alexander de by Thomas Finlayson Henderson
• MONTGOMERIE, Sir ALEXANDER de, of Ardrossan, first Lord Montgomerie (d. 1470?), was the eldest son of Sir John Montgomerie of Eaglesham, Eglinton, and Ardrossan, by his wife Agnes, daughter of Alexander, earl of Ross, lord of the Isles. His grandfather, Sir John Montgomerie (d. 1398?), is separately noticed. The father was a hostage for the Earl of Douglas in 1408, a hostage for James I in 1423, and one of the jury on the trial of Murdac, duke of Albany, in 1425. In 1425 the son was chosen a member of the privy council of James I. He succeeded his father some time before 22 Nov. 1429, and in August 1430 he was, jointly with his brother-in-law, Sir Robert Cunningham of Kilmaurs, appointed governor of Cantyre and Knapdale. On 30 Nov. 1436 he was appointed a commissioner to conclude a treaty with England (Cal. Documents relating to Scotland, iv. 1103), and he was one of the conservators of the truce concluded on 31 March for nine years (ib. p. 1111). With the other Scottish commissioners he received the present of a silver cup from Henry VI (ib. p. 1109). On 5 Feb. 1444 he had a safe-conduct to go to Durham to treat for the extension of the truce and the return of the Scottish hostages (ib. p. 1162).
• In 1444 Montgomerie was appointed keeper of Brodick Castle in the Isle of Arran (Exchequer Rolls of Scotland, v. 163). He was one of those who set their seals to instruments passed by the parliament held at Perth on 9 June 1445 against those lords who had rebelled against James II. He was created a lord of parliament by the title of Lord Montgomerie some time before 3 July 1445 (Acta Parl. Scot. ii. 59; Hist. MSS. Comm. 11th Rep. pt. vi. p. 16). On 31 Jan. 1448-9 he had a grant of the office of bailiary of Cunningham. On 14 Aug. 1451 he was a conservator for a truce with England (Cal. Documents relating to Scotland, iv. 1239), and in subsequent years he was sent to England on various other important embassies. He died about 1470. By his wife Margaret, second daughter of Sir Thomas Boyd of Kilmarnock, father of the first Lord Boyd, he had three, or possibly four sons and three daughters: Alexander, master of Montgomerie, who died in 1452, leaving by his wife Elizabeth, eldest daughter of Sir Adam Hepburn of Hales a son, Alexander, second lord Montgomerie, father of Hugh, first earl of Eglinton [q. v.]; George, ancestor of the Montgomeries of Skelmorlie; Thomas, parson of Eaglesham, and rector of the university of Glasgow; John of Giffen (doubtful); Margaret, married to Sir John Stewart of Darnley, who was created Lord Darnley, and for a time was titular Earl of Lennox; Elizabeth, to John, lord Kennedy, seventh earl of Cassillis; and Agnes, to William Cunningham of Glengarnock.
• [Cal. Documents relating to Scotland, vol. iv.; Exchequer Rolls of Scotland, vol. ii.; Reg. Mag. Sig. Scot. vol. i.; Sir William Fraser's Earls of Eglinton; Douglas's Scottish Peerage (Wood), i. 495-6.]
• From: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Montgomerie,_Alexander_de_(DNB00) _____________________________
• Alexander Montgomerie, 1st Lord Montgomerie, Lord Androssan1,2,3
• M, #4211, b. circa 1390, d. 1470
• Father Sir John Montgomerie d. b 22 Nov 1429
• Mother Agnes of the Isles d. b Mar 1414
• Alexander Montgomerie, 1st Lord Montgomerie, Lord Androssan married Margaret Boyd, daughter of Sir Thomas Boyd, 5th Baron Kilmarnock. Alexander Montgomerie, 1st Lord Montgomerie, Lord Androssan was born circa 1390. He died in 1470; Living on 7 October 1469.
• Family Margaret Boyd d. a 16 Sep 1453
• Children
  • Elizabeth Montgomery+
  • Alexander Montgomerie, Master of Montgomerie+ d. 1452
  • George Montgomerie
  • Thomas Montgomerie, Parson of Eaglesham
  • Agnes Montgomerie
  • Margaret Montgomerie+2,3 d. a 20 Jul 1461
• Citations
• [S694] Unknown author, Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles by Paget, Vol. II, p. 320; Europaische Stammtafeln by Isenburg, chart 640, Vol. 3.
• [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 586.
• [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 664.
• From: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p140.htm#i... ____________________
• Alexander Montgomerie, 1st Lord Montgomerie1
• M, #5221, b. before 1413, d. 1469/70
• Last Edited=24 Mar 2011
• Alexander Montgomerie, 1st Lord Montgomerie was born before 1413.2 He was the son of Sir John Montgomerie of Ardrossan and Agnes of the Isles.2 He married Margaret Boyd, daughter of Sir Thomas Boyd, 5th of Kilmarnock.3 He died in 1469/70.3
• He was a Commissioner to negotiate with England in 1437.1 He was created 1st Lord Montgomerie [Scotland] circa 3 July 1445.1 He was a Commissioner to negotiate with England in 1449.1 He was invested as a Privy Counsellor (P.C.) [Scotland].1 He was a Commissioner to negotiate with England from 1451 to 1452.1 He was a Commissioner to negotiate with England in 1456.1
• Children of Alexander Montgomerie, 1st Lord Montgomerie and Margaret Boyd
  • 1. Margaret Montgomerie+4
  • 2. Alexander Montgomerie, Master of Montgomerie+1 d. 1452
  • 3. Elizabeth Montgomerie+5
  • 4. George Montgomerie1
  • 5. Reverend Thomas Montgomerie1
  • 6. Agnes Montgomerie1
  • 7. Margaret Montgomerie+1
• Citations
• [S37] BP2003 volume 1, page 1279. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
• [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume IX, page 134. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
• [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume IX, page 135.
• [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume I, page 198.
• [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume III, page 74.
• From: http://www.thepeerage.com/p523.htm#i5221 ___________________
• A genealogical history of the family of Montgomery: including the Montgomery ... By Thomas Harrison Montgomery
• http://books.google.com/books?id=vWs6AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=j...
• Pg. 47
• XV. SIR JOHN de MONTGOMERIE of Eaglesham and Eastwood, and afterwards of Eglinton and Ardrossan, was the son of Sir Alexander. "He married in 1361, Elizabeth, the daughter and heiress of Sir Hugh Eglinton of Eglinton, and by her obtained the large possessions of that family on the death of her father, which occurred about the year 1374, together with Ardrossan, the heiress of which estate one of her ancestors had married. Sir John quartered with his own the Eglinton arms, which were gules, three rings or, gemmed azure."2
• .... etc.
• Pg. 48
• Sir John de Montgomerie of Eaglesham, greatly distinguished himself at the battle of Otterburne, where James Earl Douglas, who was his uncle, was slain.2 .... etc. Hugh, the eldest son of Sir John, lost his life there, as the ballad has it:
  • .... etc.
• Sir John granted on October, 1396, to William de Blakeford, the lands of Ardbennane, within two years from which time he died; he had by his wife, Elizabeth, who survived him, four sons,
  • I. SIR HUGH, who died at the battle of Otterburne, in August 1388, from the good aim of an English archer, in revenging the death of Earl Douglas. . . .
  • Pg. 49
  • II. SIR JOHN, who succeeded his father.
  • III. ALEXANDER, to whom his mother gave a charter of the lands of Bonnington, in the barony of Ratho. .... etc.
  • Pg.50
  • IV. HUGH, who was -- it is presumed-- born after the death of the eldest son. He was tutor to Hugh, the third Lord Montgomerie, and lived to a very advanced age, having survived four generations of the chief of his family.
• XVI. SIR JOHN de MONTGOMERIE, "Dominus Ejusdem, or of the Ilk," which title shows he was the male heir and chief of the French house of Montgomerie.
• "This ancient and noble title-- That Ilk -- is peculiar to the Scots, and has never been hitherto defined well. It is the title which denotes -- not the gentleman, as Johnson's degrading appellation, (viz., whose surname and the title of his estate are the same,) but also the chief of all the clan of his own surname. It does not necessarily or essentially refer to the estate. McFarlan, McIntosh, Brisbane, Tweedie, &c., of that Ilk, have never had lands of the name of their surnames. .... etc.
• Pg. 51
• Sir John de Montgomerie " succeeded his father before 1398. In 1402 he formed on the chiefs of the Scotch army which invaded England, and was taken prisoner at the disastrous battle of Halidon Hill." He was not long a captive, however, for two years after he was in .... etc.
• Sir John married Margaret, daughter of Sir Robert Maxwell of Caerlaverock, (ancestor of the Earls of Nithsdale,) and dying previous to November, 1429, left by her three sons and three daughters.
  • I. ALEXANDER, who succeeded him.
  • II. SIR ROBERT MONTGOMERIE, knight, of Giffen. This barony was given by Robert II. in 1370, the first year of his reign, to Sir Hugh Eglinton, his sister's husband, and upon the marriage of the latter's heiress, came into the Montgomerie family; it seems to have been regarded as the messuage of the Master or heir apparent of Eglinton. At different times, subsequently, it was given off, either whole or in portions, to the younger members of the family.2 "It included originally, besides Giffen of the present day, the lands of Hesselhead, Broadstone, [or Braidstane, which was given by the first Lord Montgomerie to his grandson, Robert Montgomerie, ancestor of Sir Hugh Montgomerie of Braidstane, afterwards Viscount Montgomerie,] Ramshead, Trearne, and Roughwood, extending in all to L3788 9s. 10d. of valuation,
  • Pg. 52
  • which is considerably more then half the valued rent of Beith parish."1 About the year 1452, both Braidstane and the lands of Hesselhead were given off to the younger brothers of the second Lord Montgomerie, and formed two distinct families. And about the same period, another part of the lordship of Giffen was granted to the family of Mure of Caldwell, and forms that part of their estate situated in the parish of Beith.2
  • Sir Robert was the ancestor of the late Sir George Montgomery, Baronet, of Macbie Hill, and of Sir Graham G. Montgomery, Baronet, of Stanhope, for whose descents see pp. 145, 148.
  • III. HUGH MONTGOMERIE, is mentioned in a charter of his brother, Lord Montgomerie, Polnoon, July 29, 1452.
  • IV. ANNE, married June 16, 1425, to Sir Robert Cuninghame of Kilmaurs, father of the first Earl of Glencairn. . . . .
  • V. JANET, married Sir Thomas Boyd of Kilmarnock, (his second wife,) .... etc.
  • VI. ISABEL, married Archibald Mure of Rowallan.
• XVII. ALEXANDER de MONTGOMERIE, the first Lord Montgomerie, succeeded his father before November 22, 1429, as on that date "Alexander de Montgomery, lord of that Ilk, is one of the assize in an action .... etc.
• Pg. 53
• Lord Montgomerie married Margaret, daughter of Sir Thomas Boyd of Kilmarnock, by whom he had four sons and four daughters. He died prior to October 14, 1465, and was succeeded by his grandson.
  • I. ALEXANDER DE MONTGOMERIE, Master of Montgomerie, whose son became the second Lord Montgomerie. (See P. 55.)
  • II. GEORGE DE MONTGOMERIE of Skelmorlie,
  • III. JOHN DE MONTGOMERIE of Giffen, in which barony he appears to have had lands . . .
  • IV. THOMAS DE MONTGOMERIE, Parson of Eaglesham. . . . . Thomas died unmarried.
  • V. MARGARET, married John Earl of Lennox, Lord Darnley. There is an indenture, dated at Houstoun, May 15, 1438, between Alexander Montgomerie, Knight, Lord of Ardrossan, on the one part, and Alan Stewart, Lord Dernely, .... etc.
  • Pg.54
  • VI. ELIZABETH, married John, second Lord Kennedy, and was mother of David, first Earl of Cassilis. Lord Kennedy's sister, Catherine, was the wife of the second Lord Montgomerie.
  • VII. JANET, married a Cuninghame of the Kilmaurs family.
  • VIII. AGNES, married William Cuninghame of Glengarnock. __________________________
• Name Sir Alexander Montgomery, 1st Lord Montgomerie [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
• Born Abt 1385 of, Ardrossen, Ayrshire, Scotland [8]
• Died 1470 [8, 10, 11]
• Father Sir John Montgomery, Lord of Ardrossan, b. of, Eaglesham, Renfrewshire, Scotland d. 14 Feb 1426-22 Nov 1429
• Mother Agnes of the Isles, d. Bef 9 Mar 1413-1414
• Family Margaret Boyd, b. Abt 1390, d. Aft 16 Sep 1453 (Age ~ 63 years)
• Children
  • 1. Alexander Montgomery, Master of Montgomery, d. 1452
  • 2. Margaret Montgomery, b. Abt 1412, of, Ardrossen, Ayrshire, Scotland d. Aft 30 May 1493 (Age ~ 81 years)
  • 3. George Montgomery, of Skelmorlie
  • 4. Thomas Montgomery, parson of Eaglesham
  • 5. Elizabeth Montgomery, b. of, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland d. Bef 24 Aug 1467
• Sources
• [S29] #798 The Wallop Family and Their Ancestry, Watney, Vernon James, (4 volumes. Oxford: John Johnson, 1928), FHL book Q 929.242 W159w; FHL microfilm 1696491 items 6-9., vol. 1 p. 125.
• vol. 3 p. 559:
• "Alexander Montgomerie, 1st Lord Montgomerie; received a silver-gilt cup from Henry VI; d. 1470."
• [S4] #11232 The Genealogist (1980-), Association for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, (New York: Organization for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, 1980-), FHL book 929.105 G286n., Fall 1997, vol. 11 no. 2 p. 183, Spring 1998, vol. 12 no. 1 p. 89:516.
• [S7] #189 The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, with Armorial Illustrations (1904-1914), Paul , Sir James Balfour, (9 volumes. Edinburgh: D. Douglas, 1904-1914), FHL book 941 D22p; FHL microfilms104,157-104,161., vol. 2 p. 456.
• [S7] #189 The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, with Armorial Illustrations (1904-1914), Paul , Sir James Balfour, (9 volumes. Edinburgh: D. Douglas, 1904-1914), FHL book 941 D22p; FHL microfilms104,157-104,161., vol. 3 p. 430.
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• [S25] #226 The Peerage of Scotland: Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of That Kingdom, from Their Origin to the Present Generation (2nd edition, 1813), Douglas, Sir Robert, (2nd edition. 2 volumes. Edinburgh: A. Constable, 1813 NOTE: Caution should be taken with this peerage, and compared with other peerages to obtain accurate information about the families. Some of the lineages are confused, but can be used for supplemental information.), FHL book Q 941 D22d; FHL microfilm 1,440,956 items 1-2., vol. 1 p. 328, 495.
• [S25] #226 The Peerage of Scotland: Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of That Kingdom, from Their Origin to the Present Generation (2nd edition, 1813), Douglas, Sir Robert, (2nd edition. 2 volumes. Edinburgh: A. Constable, 1813 NOTE: Caution should be taken with this peerage, and compared with other peerages to obtain accurate information about the families. Some of the lineages are confused, but can be used for supplemental information.), FHL book Q 941 D22d; FHL microfilm 1,440,956 items 1-2., vol. 2 p. 95.
• [S4] #11232 The Genealogist (1980-), Association for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, (New York: Organization for the Promotion of Scholarship in Genealogy, 1980-), FHL book 929.105 G286n., Spring 1998, vol. 12 no. 1 p. 89:516.
• [S50] Medieval, royalty, nobility family group sheets (filmed 1996), Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Family History Department. Medieval Family History Unit, (Manuscript. Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1996), FHL film 1553977-1553985..
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• From: https://histfam.familysearch.org//getperson.php?personID=I352&tree=... _____________________
• Name Alexander Montgomerie, Lord Montgomerie [1]
• Born Bef 1413 of, Ardrossan, Ayrshire, Scotland [2]
• Died Abt 1470 [3]
• Father Sir John Montgomerie, b. of, Ardrossan, Ayrshire, Scotland d. Bef 22 Nov 1429, , , England
• Mother Agnes of the Isles, d. Bef Mar 1413-1414
• Family Margaret Boyd, b. Abt 1409, of, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland d. Aft 16 Sep 1453 (Age ~ 44 years)
• Children
  • 1. Alexander Montgomerie, "Master of Montgomerie", b. Abt 1426, of, Ardrossan, Ayrshire, Scotland d. 1452 (Age ~ 26 years)
  • 2. George Montgomerie, b. of, Skelmorlie, Largs, Ayrshire, Scotland d. 1505
  • 3. Thomas Montgomerie
  • 4. Margaret Montgomerie, b. of, Ardrossan, Ayrshire, Scotland
  • 5. Elizabeth Montgomerie
  • 6. Agnes Montgomerie
• Sources
• [S3] #21 The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct, or Dormant (1910), Cokayne, George Edward (main author) and Vicary Gibbs (added author), (New edition. 13 volumes in 14. London: St. Catherine Press,1910-), vol. 1 p. 199; vol. 3 p. 74; vol. 14 p. 339 [GLENCAIRN] (Reliability: 3).
• [S4] #230 [5th edition, 1999] The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 (5th edition, 1999), Adams, Arthur, (5th edition. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing, 1999), FHL book 973 D2aa 1999., p. 16 line 15A:10 (Reliability: 3).
• [S3] #21 The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct, or Dormant (1910), Cokayne, George Edward (main author) and Vicary Gibbs (added author), (New edition. 13 volumes in 14. London: St. Catherine Press,1910-), vol. 5 p. 17 (Reliability: 3).
• From: https://histfam.familysearch.org//getperson.php?personID=I7212&tree... _______________________
• Colonial and Revolutionary Families of Pennsylvania By John W. Jordan
• http://books.google.com/books?id=arAfWBsvO1gC&pg=PA1136&lpg=PA1136&...
• Pg.1136
• Sir John De Montgomerie, second son of Sir John and Elizabeth Eglinton, succeeded to the lands and titles of his father and mother in 1398, and is referred to as eldest male heir and chief of the French house of Montgomerie. He was one of the chiefs of the Scottish army which invaded England in 1402, and was taken prisoner at the Battle of Halidon Hill. Five years later he was in Scotland and introduced the reputed Richard II, of England, to Robert II, of Scotland. On the accession of James I, after his long imprisonment in England, Sir John de Montgomery (2) was among the nobles of high rank who were arrested on suspicion of having profited by their sovereign's imprisonment and brought before the Parliament held at Perth, March 12, 1425. He was, however, released immediately and restored to high favor, being on the the jury to try the Duke of Albany, and was commissioned to reduce the fortress of Lock Lamond, held by Albany's youngest son, James Stewart. He married Margaret, daughter of Sir Robert Maxwell, of Caerlaverock, the ancestor of the Earls of Nithsdale, and died prior to November, 1429, leaving three sons and four daughters. His second son, Sir Robert de Montgomerie, became Knight of Giffen, a barony given by Robert II to Sir Hugh Eglinton, and brought into the Montgomerie family by Robert's grandmother, before men-
• Pg. 1137
• tioned. Hugh, the third son, is mentioned in a charter to his brother Alexander, Lord Montgomerie, in 1452. Of the daughters, Anne married, June 16, 1425, Sir Robert Cuninghame, father of the Earl of Glencairn; Janet became the second wife of Sir Thomas Boyd, of Kilmarnock, whose daughter Margaret, by a former marriage, became the wife of Lord Montgomerie; and Isabel married Archibald Muir, of Rowallan.
• ALEXANDER DE MONTGOMERIE, first Lord Montgomerie, though his ancestors had been designated by that title for several generations, succeeded his father prior to November 22, 1429, as on that date he is referred to as "Lord of that Ilk" in one of the assizes, in an action between Renfrew and Dumbarton. He had a commission with his brother-in-law Sir Robert Cuninghame, August 10, 1430, for the government of Kintyre, Knapsale, and other baronies, and also a charter under the great seal for a large number of baronies, with the lands appurtenant, between the years 1430 and 1450. He was distinguished for his loyalty to James I, of Scotland, and his successor, and was a member of the Priby Council under both. He was also employed on various negotiations and diplomatic missions to England. The date of his elevation to the peerage is given by Burke as January 31, 1448-9, but as he is referred to in the erecting of the Lordship of Hamilton, on July 3, 1445, in connection with others then elevated to the peerage, it is thought that that was the date of his elevation. He married Margaret, daughter of Thomas Boyd, of Kilmarnock, who married as his second wife, Janet, sister of Lord Montgomerie.
• Lord Montgomerie died October 14, 1465, leaving four sons and four daughters. His second son, George de Montgomerie, was laird of Skelmorlie Castle, now one of the seats of the Earls of Eglinton and Winton. The third son, John de Montgomerie, of Giffen, had a son Robert de Montgomerie, who went to France and founded the second branch of the Counts of Montgomerie; and the forth son, Thomas de Montgomery, was rector of the University of Glasgow, 1476-1510, and died unmarried. Of the daughters, Margaret married John, Earl of Lennox, Lord Darnley, and was an ancestress of James VI, of Scotland and James I, of England. Elizabeth married John, second Lord Kennedy; Janet married ____ Cuninghame, of Kilmaurs, and Agnes married William Cuninghame, of Glengarncok.
• ALEXANDER DE MONTGOMERIE, Master of Montgomerie, eldest son of Lord Alexander, and his spouse Margaret Boyd, died in 1452, before his father. . . . . __________________

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[changed family name Seton to Gordon ca 1457]

Jim Weber shows a birth date of "bef 1413" for Alexander. Based on other sources showing he had younger siblings plus the fact his mother died by 1414, I am showing a birth date of "abt 1383".

Alexander Montgomerie, 1st Lord Montgomerie, so created bef 3 July 1445....Commissioner to negotiate armistice with England 1437, 1449, 1451-52, and 1456. [Burke's Peerage]

Jim Weber notes: "BP does not indicated which wife (1st or 2nd) was mother of Alexander."

Alexander Montgomery, b. before 1413, d. c 1470, member of the King's Council, created shortly before 3 July 1445 Lord Montgomery; m. Margaret, seen 16 Sep 1453, daughter of Sir Thomas Boyd of Kilmarnock. [Magna Charta Sureties]

Jim weber notes: "Magna Charta Sureties implies that Alexander is son of Sir John's 1st wife Agnes of the Isles, which is what CP says."

BARONY OF MONTGOMERIE [SCT] (I)

ALEXANDER MONTGOMERIE, son and heir of Sir John MONTGOMERIE, of Ardrossan, by his 1st wife, Agnes of the Isles. He was born before 1413; succeeded his father between 1426/7 and November 1429. A commissioner, 30 November 1437, to conclude a truce with England. He was P.C. to Kings James I and II [SCT]. On 5 February 1444 he had a safe conduct to Durham in connection with an extension of the truce and delivery of the hostages in England. He was apparently created a peer of Parliament as LORD MONTGOMERIE [SCT] shortly before 3 July 1445. On 25 August 1447, as Alexander Lord Montgomery, he was a witness to the agreement between Archibald Douglas, Earl of Moray, and his brother James as to their seniority, whereby the decision was given in favour of James. He was sent again to England, 10 May 1449, as envoy for a prolongation of the truce, and had safe conducts for the same purpose in 1451-2 and 1456. He was sent to Perth in 1463 on an embassy with the Earl of Argyll in connection with the rebellion of the Earl of Ross, and in the following year was to remain with the King at Berwick.

He married Margaret, sister of Robert, 1st LORD BOYD [SCT], and 2nd daughter of Sir Thomas BOYD, of Kilmarnock. She was living 16 September 1453. He was living 1469, but died apparently in 1470. [Complete Peerage IX:134-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Author: Jim Weber

Title: The Phillips, Weber, Kirk & Staggs Famlies

URL: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id

Date: May 12, 2009

Detail: Jim Weber cites numerous sources for his data. See his posting for details. 2.Type: Web Site

Author: Jim Weber

Title: The Phillips, Weber, Kirk & Staggs Famlies

URL: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id

Date: May 12, 2009

Detail: Jim Weber cites numerous sources for his data. See his posting for details.

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Sir Alexander was created Lord Montgomerie and became a member of the King's council.

History from the Clan Montgomery Society.

Sir Alexander was created Lord Montgomerie and became a member of the King's council.

History from the Clan Montgomery Society.

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Margaret Boyd married Alexander, 1st Lord Montgomerie. Had a son Alexander Montgomery, 3rd Lord Montgomery.