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About Émilienne of Poitou
Emilienne married Ebles "Manzer" de Poitiers, but her parentage is not known or documented. Ebles was NOT married to a daughter of Edward 'the Elder' of England.
Sources and Resources
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebalus,_Duke_of_Aquitaine
- http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebles_Manzer
- http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE.htm#_Toc172271317
Ebles
m secondly (before Feb 911) EMILLANE, daughter of --- (-[932/36] or after).
"Emmena femina" granted property "allodus situs in pago Pictavo in vicaria Salvinse in villa…Baidonnus" to "domnum Ebolum comitem et…uxorem eius Emillane" by charter dated Feb 911[269]. Ademar names "Adelam, filiam Rosi Rotomagensis" as wife of Eble and mother of "Willelmum Caputstupæ", but this appears chronologically impossible, the individual being confused no doubt with the latter's wife[270].
The Chronico Comitum Pictaviæ names "Hadelliam…Adestani regis Angliæ filiam" as wife of "Ebles Dux Aquitaniæ et Pictaviæ Comes"[271], but this also appears impossible. "Willelmi comitis, Alaine comitisse que fuit monacha" subscribed the donation by "Rotbertus clericus" of property to St Cyprien, Poitiers by charter dated [932/36][272], it being assumed that "Alaine" was the mother of Comte Guillaume I although no relationship is stated in the document.
Comte Ebalus & his [second] wife had two children:
1. GUILLAUME de Poitou ([900]-Poitiers 3 Apr 963). The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes names "Willelmus…cognomento Caput stupe" as one of the two sons of "Eblo duce", specifying that he was "Arvernis, Vallatis, Lemovice et Pictavis comes…dux Aquitaniæ"[273]. He succeeded his father in 934 as GUILLAUME I “Tête d'Etoupes/Capite-stupæ” Comte de Poitou. He succeeded in 959 as GUILLAUME III Duke of Aquitaine.
- see below, Chapter 5.
2. EBALUS de Poitou (-Abbaye de Saint-Michel-en-Lherm 26 Feb 977[274]). The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes names "Eblus…pontifex Lemovicæ" as one of the two sons of "Eblo duce", specifying that he was abbot of "Sancti Hilarii ac Sancti Maxencii"[275]. Louis IV King of France confirmed the property of Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers, in the presence of "Guillelmus comes et marchio et frater eius Ebolus atque Rotgarius comes", by charter dated 5 Jan 942[276]. "Guillelmus…Aquitanici ducatus comes" was present in a property transaction recorded by charter dated Jul 959 which also names "fratre nostro Ebulone episcopo abbate"[277]. The restoration by "Eblo episcopus Lemovice civitatis et comes Pictavorum" of the abbey of Saint-Maixent with the consent of "fratre eius Willelmo duce Aquitanorum" is recorded in a charter dated [960][278]. "Ebulus…Lemovicensium sedis episcopus" donated property including "alodum…meum Baidon" to Saint-Maixent "pro remedio animæ…fratris mei Guillelmi, sive pro consolatione nepotism mei equivoci Guillelmi Aquitanorum ducis" by charter dated Jan [965/66][279]. Richard suggests that this charter shows that the mother of Ebalus must have been Emillane, but his reasoning appears to be faulty. He states firstly that Ebalus declares in the document that Baidon belonged to him "à titre héréditaire" (although the precise wording "allodium…meum" does not convey this meaning) and secondly that this property must have come to him from his mother who, he says, acquired the property in 911 (although she acquired the property jointly with her husband, as shown by the charter quoted above)[280]. Abbé de Saint Maixent 936. Thesaurius of Saint-Hilaire-de-Poitiers 937/77. Bishop of Limoges 944. He resigned in 963 and became Abbé de Saint-Michel-en-Lherm. He was captured by Hélie Comte de Périgord and blinded[281].
Ebles Manzer (c’est-à-dire le Bâtard), né vers 870, mort en 935, comte de Poitiers de 890 à 892 et de 902 à 934. Il succède à son père Ramnulf II.
Bien qu'intronisé comte par son père Ramnulf II, il doit s'enfuir devant Aymar de Poitiers, soutenu par Eudes Ier de France, qui prend Poitiers en 892 et l'installe dans le comté. Ebles, quant à lui, trouve refuge chez Guillaume le Pieux, qui en profite pour faire passer l’Aquitaine sous sa coupe.
En 902, Ebles se lance à la conquête de son comté avec une armée prêtée par le comte d'Auvergne Guillaume le Pieux, son parent. Il prend Poitiers en l'absence d'Aymar puis le vainc. Charles III le Simple, avec qui Ebles a été élevé, l'investit comte de Poitou, seul titre qu'il ait jamais porté.
Ebles attribue l'abbaye de Saint-Maixent au vicomte Savary Ier de Thouars qui l'a soutenu. Il restructure le Poitou en créant de nouvelles vicomtés à Aulnay et à Melle (Deux-Sèvres) et supprime la vicomté de Poitou à la mort de son détenteur Maingaud en 925.
En 904 il conquiert le Limousin. En 911 Ebles est à Chartres dans l'armée qui combat Rollon à la colline de Lères[1] (voir traité de Saint-Clair-sur-Epte).
Guillaume le Jeune, héritier de Guillaume le Pieux, puis son frère et successeur Acfred meurent en l'espace d'un an en 927. Acfred ayant fait d'Ebles son héritier, il se retrouve ainsi duc d'Aquitaine, comte du Berry, d'Auvergne et du Velay.
En 929, le roi Raoul essaie de réduire le pouvoir d'Ebles Manzer. Il lui retire d'abord le Berry, puis en 932 il transfère le titre de duc d'Aquitaine et le comté d'Auvergne au comte de Toulouse Raymond III Pons. En outre le territoire de la Marche qui dépendait des seigneurs de Charroux, vassaux d'Ebles, est transformé en comté indépendant.
Il épousa Émilienne dont il eut deux fils, Ebles, évêque de Limoges, et Guillaume III de Poitiers.
From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Aquitaine:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE.htm
Comte Ebalus m secondly (before Feb 911) EMILLANE, daughter of --- (-[932/36] or after).
"Emmena femina" granted property "allodus situs in pago Pictavo in vicaria Salvinse in villa…Baidonnus" to "domnum Ebolum comitem et…uxorem eius Emillane" by charter dated Feb 911[293].
Ademar names "Adelam, filiam Rosi Rotomagensis" as wife of Eble and mother of "Willelmum Caputstupæ", but this appears chronologically impossible, the individual being confused no doubt with the latter's wife[294]. The Chronico Comitum Pictaviæ names "Hadelliam…Adestani regis Angliæ filiam" as wife of "Ebles Dux Aquitaniæ et Pictaviæ Comes"[295], but this also appears impossible.
"Willelmi comitis, Alaine comitisse que fuit monacha" subscribed the donation by "Rotbertus clericus" of property to St Cyprien, Poitiers by charter dated [932/36][296], it being assumed that "Alaine" was the mother of Comte Guillaume I although no relationship is stated in the document.
Comte Ebalus & his [second] wife had two children:
1.Guillaume de Poitou (b. c.900, d. 3 April 963 in Poitou, succeeded as Comte de Poitou as Guillaume Tete d'Etoupes/Capite-Stupae or William the Towheaded, and later as Duc d'Aquitaine, OUR ANCESTOR)
2. Ebalus de Poitou (d. 26 February 977 at Abbaye de St-Michel-en-Lherm, where he was Abbot, Bishop of Limoges, blinded by Helie, Comte de Perigord)
About Émilienne de Poitou (Français)
Emilienne married Ebles "Manzer" de Poitiers, but her parentage is not known or documented. Ebles was NOT married to a daughter of Edward 'the Elder' of England.
Sources and Resources
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebalus,_Duke_of_Aquitaine
- http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebles_Manzer
- http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE.htm#_Toc172271317
Ebles
m secondly (before Feb 911) EMILLANE, daughter of --- (-[932/36] or after).
"Emmena femina" granted property "allodus situs in pago Pictavo in vicaria Salvinse in villa…Baidonnus" to "domnum Ebolum comitem et…uxorem eius Emillane" by charter dated Feb 911[269]. Ademar names "Adelam, filiam Rosi Rotomagensis" as wife of Eble and mother of "Willelmum Caputstupæ", but this appears chronologically impossible, the individual being confused no doubt with the latter's wife[270].
The Chronico Comitum Pictaviæ names "Hadelliam…Adestani regis Angliæ filiam" as wife of "Ebles Dux Aquitaniæ et Pictaviæ Comes"[271], but this also appears impossible. "Willelmi comitis, Alaine comitisse que fuit monacha" subscribed the donation by "Rotbertus clericus" of property to St Cyprien, Poitiers by charter dated [932/36][272], it being assumed that "Alaine" was the mother of Comte Guillaume I although no relationship is stated in the document.
Comte Ebalus & his [second] wife had two children:
1. GUILLAUME de Poitou ([900]-Poitiers 3 Apr 963). The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes names "Willelmus…cognomento Caput stupe" as one of the two sons of "Eblo duce", specifying that he was "Arvernis, Vallatis, Lemovice et Pictavis comes…dux Aquitaniæ"[273]. He succeeded his father in 934 as GUILLAUME I “Tête d'Etoupes/Capite-stupæ” Comte de Poitou. He succeeded in 959 as GUILLAUME III Duke of Aquitaine.
- see below, Chapter 5.
2. EBALUS de Poitou (-Abbaye de Saint-Michel-en-Lherm 26 Feb 977[274]). The Chronicle of Adémar de Chabannes names "Eblus…pontifex Lemovicæ" as one of the two sons of "Eblo duce", specifying that he was abbot of "Sancti Hilarii ac Sancti Maxencii"[275]. Louis IV King of France confirmed the property of Saint-Hilaire de Poitiers, in the presence of "Guillelmus comes et marchio et frater eius Ebolus atque Rotgarius comes", by charter dated 5 Jan 942[276]. "Guillelmus…Aquitanici ducatus comes" was present in a property transaction recorded by charter dated Jul 959 which also names "fratre nostro Ebulone episcopo abbate"[277]. The restoration by "Eblo episcopus Lemovice civitatis et comes Pictavorum" of the abbey of Saint-Maixent with the consent of "fratre eius Willelmo duce Aquitanorum" is recorded in a charter dated [960][278]. "Ebulus…Lemovicensium sedis episcopus" donated property including "alodum…meum Baidon" to Saint-Maixent "pro remedio animæ…fratris mei Guillelmi, sive pro consolatione nepotism mei equivoci Guillelmi Aquitanorum ducis" by charter dated Jan [965/66][279]. Richard suggests that this charter shows that the mother of Ebalus must have been Emillane, but his reasoning appears to be faulty. He states firstly that Ebalus declares in the document that Baidon belonged to him "à titre héréditaire" (although the precise wording "allodium…meum" does not convey this meaning) and secondly that this property must have come to him from his mother who, he says, acquired the property in 911 (although she acquired the property jointly with her husband, as shown by the charter quoted above)[280]. Abbé de Saint Maixent 936. Thesaurius of Saint-Hilaire-de-Poitiers 937/77. Bishop of Limoges 944. He resigned in 963 and became Abbé de Saint-Michel-en-Lherm. He was captured by Hélie Comte de Périgord and blinded[281].
Ebles Manzer (c’est-à-dire le Bâtard), né vers 870, mort en 935, comte de Poitiers de 890 à 892 et de 902 à 934. Il succède à son père Ramnulf II.
Bien qu'intronisé comte par son père Ramnulf II, il doit s'enfuir devant Aymar de Poitiers, soutenu par Eudes Ier de France, qui prend Poitiers en 892 et l'installe dans le comté. Ebles, quant à lui, trouve refuge chez Guillaume le Pieux, qui en profite pour faire passer l’Aquitaine sous sa coupe.
En 902, Ebles se lance à la conquête de son comté avec une armée prêtée par le comte d'Auvergne Guillaume le Pieux, son parent. Il prend Poitiers en l'absence d'Aymar puis le vainc. Charles III le Simple, avec qui Ebles a été élevé, l'investit comte de Poitou, seul titre qu'il ait jamais porté.
Ebles attribue l'abbaye de Saint-Maixent au vicomte Savary Ier de Thouars qui l'a soutenu. Il restructure le Poitou en créant de nouvelles vicomtés à Aulnay et à Melle (Deux-Sèvres) et supprime la vicomté de Poitou à la mort de son détenteur Maingaud en 925.
En 904 il conquiert le Limousin. En 911 Ebles est à Chartres dans l'armée qui combat Rollon à la colline de Lères[1] (voir traité de Saint-Clair-sur-Epte).
Guillaume le Jeune, héritier de Guillaume le Pieux, puis son frère et successeur Acfred meurent en l'espace d'un an en 927. Acfred ayant fait d'Ebles son héritier, il se retrouve ainsi duc d'Aquitaine, comte du Berry, d'Auvergne et du Velay.
En 929, le roi Raoul essaie de réduire le pouvoir d'Ebles Manzer. Il lui retire d'abord le Berry, puis en 932 il transfère le titre de duc d'Aquitaine et le comté d'Auvergne au comte de Toulouse Raymond III Pons. En outre le territoire de la Marche qui dépendait des seigneurs de Charroux, vassaux d'Ebles, est transformé en comté indépendant.
Il épousa Émilienne dont il eut deux fils, Ebles, évêque de Limoges, et Guillaume III de Poitiers.
From the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy page on Aquitaine:
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/AQUITAINE.htm
Comte Ebalus m secondly (before Feb 911) EMILLANE, daughter of --- (-[932/36] or after).
"Emmena femina" granted property "allodus situs in pago Pictavo in vicaria Salvinse in villa…Baidonnus" to "domnum Ebolum comitem et…uxorem eius Emillane" by charter dated Feb 911[293].
Ademar names "Adelam, filiam Rosi Rotomagensis" as wife of Eble and mother of "Willelmum Caputstupæ", but this appears chronologically impossible, the individual being confused no doubt with the latter's wife[294]. The Chronico Comitum Pictaviæ names "Hadelliam…Adestani regis Angliæ filiam" as wife of "Ebles Dux Aquitaniæ et Pictaviæ Comes"[295], but this also appears impossible.
"Willelmi comitis, Alaine comitisse que fuit monacha" subscribed the donation by "Rotbertus clericus" of property to St Cyprien, Poitiers by charter dated [932/36][296], it being assumed that "Alaine" was the mother of Comte Guillaume I although no relationship is stated in the document.
Comte Ebalus & his [second] wife had two children:
1.Guillaume de Poitou (b. c.900, d. 3 April 963 in Poitou, succeeded as Comte de Poitou as Guillaume Tete d'Etoupes/Capite-Stupae or William the Towheaded, and later as Duc d'Aquitaine, OUR ANCESTOR)
2. Ebalus de Poitou (d. 26 February 977 at Abbaye de St-Michel-en-Lherm, where he was Abbot, Bishop of Limoges, blinded by Helie, Comte de Perigord)
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Émilienne of Poitou's Timeline
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879
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France
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April 3, 915
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Poitou-Charentes, Poitiers, Vienne, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, France
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935
Age 56
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Poitiers, Vienne, Aquitaine Limousin Poitou-Charentes, France
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935
Age 56
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Poitiers, Vienne, Aquitaine Limousin Poitou-Charentes, France
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