Who was Raizel Perlmutter's Father (Uri or Reiter)

Started by Private User on Tuesday, August 2, 2011
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Private User
8/2/2011 at 3:30 PM

There seems to be evidence by some document that lists her father's name as Yaakv Eliezer Reiter?

How does that reconcile to being a daughter of Reb Yaakov Uri?

Is Rochel Leah, her sister, also a Reiter?

9/12/2013 at 6:13 AM

I'm not sure
This is weird
I always thought it was uri

Private User
12/2/2013 at 8:50 AM

I have evidence that Rochel Leah was a daughter of Reb Yaakov Eliezer Reiter.

We need to track info on Yaakov Eliezer. I feel that the connection is not through Uri.

Have either of you (Avrohom Binyomin Seidenfeld or Mordechai Isaac Rosenfeld) tried to work through the Munkacz records, which is where this family originally started off, rather than only refer to records in NyirTass (Tosh)?

Have either of you reconciled the Yad Vashem reference in the pages of testimony to URI names that perished in the Holocaust on a Perlmutter grave in Mount of Olives?

Have either of you explored how to obtain the death record of Raizel Perlmutter in 1916 Palestine?

Have you reached out to the family of Linzer regarding who compiled the wording on this tombstone: http://www.ivelt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=831859#p831859

I would appreciate your sharing any more detail you may have uncovered so we can either prove or disprove this claim.

-Thanks!

Moishe Miller

7/9/2015 at 3:29 PM

I don't understand - are they descended from the B"Y or not ?
Why were there so many records in the family claiming that Raizel was the daughter of R' Yaakov Uri....

Mordechai,
If they were, we do not know how. That does not m ean they are not, just that there is cuurently no actual lineage to point to and say, this is how. I will add that I have seen members in my MILLER family claim that they heard we are from the B"Y. In fact we are nephews, not grandchildren.

As for your point of thier being "so many records", please share them so that we can further determine the truth.

Thank you

8/4/2015 at 1:41 AM

I HAVE RECORDS IN HEBREW AT HOME (IN THE US- I'M IN ISRAEL NOW) - WELL, NOT RECORDS AS MUCH AS FAMILY TREES FROM MANY DIFFERENT SOURCES.
ALSO HER DAUGHTER'S GRAVE IN JERUSALEM WRITES THAT SHE IS A DESCENDANT OF THE B'NEI YISSOSCHOR. SHE WAS BORN AROUND 25 YEARS AFTER THE B"Y'S DEATH SO I DOUBT THAT THEIR NARRATIVE WAS CORRUPTED SO SOON AFTER THE B"Y'S DEATH....
I CREATED AN ALTERNATE PROFILE TO PRESERVE BOTH NARRATIVES...

8/5/2015 at 1:06 AM

I'm going to try to figure out where the connection to R' Yaakov Uri started, I spoke to an old cousin in Yerushalayim who said they she knew they were descendant of the BY, but not sure how. Maybe the connection to R' Uri was a later addition to the trees. I'm gona try to do some research. I also spoke to a cousin who said the Minchas Elozer (munkatcher rebbe and desendant of the BY) used to refer to him as a descendant of the BY.

Also, Is there some way of connecting Pesach Langsam to Rav Shishon M'Ostropli, he is a know descendant and i wanted to connect the tree's somehow?

8/21/2016 at 5:18 AM

האם יש מישהו שיודע אם ר' יעקב אליעזר הנ"ל היה לו בן בשם זאב וואלף?

מצאתי באינטרנט משפחה באיזור מונקאטש שאבי המשפחה קרוי ר' זאב וואלף רייטער ב"ר יעקב אליעזר

8/22/2017 at 1:23 PM

Has any additional information been found regarding this issue?

Shlomo Lipsett

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