Elizabeth Mary (Lee) Ross

Chris DeNoia we are fortunate to have a Geni user who has been researching her multiple Lee lines for years so I'm sure that she will chime in here. Several of us did research on the family as part of the project, perhaps someone came across her?

Thank you Hatte,

As some more background, she is listed in the 1870 census as Mary E Ross, born in Virginia: https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fap...

While it looks like the last name is Rofs, I've learned the style during the last 1800s to write a double "ss" looks like "fs". The 1 year old son, Albert J, past away in 1952. His obituary lists his parents as the late Theodore and Elizabeth (Lee).

Chris, is her profile on Geni yet? If so, can you give us a link? Has she been added to the project? Eventually every profile added to that project will be properly linked in to the Lees of Virginia, or we will discover their true roots and know that they are not part of that family. In either case, you will discover her true family.

In our research as we set up the project and cleaned up the first couple of generations, we did discover another Colonial Lee family, unrelated to the Lees of Virginia, who went from England to Barbados to Virginia and the Carolinas. So you see, not every Lee born in Virginia is the same family.

MEZ - actually some of the Barbados branch are of the Lee's of Virginia - later publishings prove that it was so - as with the William Lee line, the initial research by EJL he had no conclusions and just assumptions.

But not all Lee's came from Richard I and Anne - that is correct.

Chris - do you have any more info? A date of death - I do have a lot Mary's born from 1820 to 1850's. I will check her children also.

Chris - I sent you a message - at this time she is not in my data base. You can post your search on my website for other researchers to veiw and perhaps you will get a comment or two that might help.

Chris - I did a little research and your efforts on Ancestory.COM appear to have taken you as far as you can go without knowing the last name of Mary E. (VA) who is married to Theodore Ross (c. 1644 NY), son of John W. (b. 1814) and Mary A. (b. 1819).

The only Mary E. Lee born during that period in Virginia that I can find are:

1. Mary E. Lee (1843-1913), married Thomas Speer Eichelberger

2. Mary E. Lee (b. 1845), Parents: Robert T. Lee (1793-1870 and Mary Ann Minor (1803-1880)..no marriage that I can find!

3. Mary E. Lee (1846-1929), Parents: John Lee (1812-1888) and Maria P. Lawrey (1812-1885); married Preston Herbert Sayre

4. Mary Lee (1844-1924), Parents: George Washington Bolling (1807 1875) and Martha Stith Nicholas Bolling (1808-1886); married William Henry Fitzhugh Lee

The census reference (and another one) you show reflects only Mary E. Ross as being married to Theodore with Albert J Ross their son being born on Aug 1970 in NY and died 2/8/1952 in Massachussetts ...there is no maiden name that I can find for Mary E. and without that, it is almost impossible to find unless you have some source document that shows what her maiden name was! Sorry!

Jim

Jim,

Thanks for the research. I have a copy of Albert J Ross obituary from 1952 which refers to the parents as the late Theodore and Elizabeth (Lee) Ross. The 1870 census shows Mary E Ross and Nina (age 3) from Virginia and husband Theodore and Albert j (age 1) from New York.

The challenge is the census lists Mary E. and the obituary lists as Elizabeth. There is no doubt that Mary E. is the mother of Albert J. based on marriage records, etc.

I'm speculating at the moment that Theodore Ross was in VA around the end of the Civil War, met and married Mary E. Lee, had their first child, Nina, around 1867 and moved back to Rochester before having Albert J Ross in 1869.

Chris

And Chris, here is another lead:

Ancestors of Elizabeth Lee

Generation No. 1

1. Elizabeth Lee, born Abt. 1843 in Virginia. She was the daughter of 2. David Roland LEE and 3. Unknown.

More About Elizabeth Lee:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

Generation No. 2

2. David Roland LEE, born Abt. 1808 in , Buckingham, Va; died Abt. 1870 in Buckingham County, Virginia. He was the son of 4. Guy Samuel LEE and 5. Margaret Jane KYLE. He married 3. Unknown.
3. Unknown

More About David Roland LEE:
Ancestral File Number: 22R8-GJD
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

More About Unknown:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

Children of David LEE and Unknown are:
i. Virginia Lee, born Abt. 1840.

More About Virginia Lee:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

ii. James G. Lee, born Abt. 1841 in Virginia; died Jul 1863 in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.

More About James G. Lee:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

iii. William A. Lee, born Abt. 1843 in Virginia; died Jul 1863 in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania.

More About William A. Lee:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

1 iv. Elizabeth Lee, born Abt. 1843 in Virginia.
v. Mary Lee, born Abt. 1845 in Virginia.

More About Mary Lee:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

vi. Manuh Lee, born Abt. 1846 in Virginia.

More About Manuh Lee:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

vii. Susan Lee, born Abt. 1848 in Virginia.

More About Susan Lee:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

Generation No. 3

4. Guy Samuel LEE, born 01 Jun 1775 in , Buckingham, Va; died 13 Jul 1861 in Appomattox County, Virginia also of Cambell, Va. He was the son of 8. Gresham LEE Sr. and 9. Priscilla Priciley STAPLES. He married 5. Margaret Jane KYLE.
5. Margaret Jane KYLE, born Abt. 1774 in , Buckingham, Va; died Abt. 1825 in , Buckingham, Va.

Notes for Guy Samuel LEE:
Name: Guy Samuel LEE Sex: M Birth: 1 JUN 1775 in Buckingham County, Virginia Death: 13 JUL 1861 in Appomattox County, Virginia Reference Number: 22875Father: Gresham LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22201> b: ABT. 1745 in Albemarle Co., Virginia Mother: Priscilla STAPLES </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22211>Marriage 1 Margaret Jane KYLE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22876> b: AFT. 1775
Married: ABT. 1795 in Buckingham County, Virginia
Children
Elizabeth C. LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22877> b: ABT. 1799 in Buckingham County, Virginia
Mary Jane LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22879> b: 1801 in Buckingham County, Virginia
George W. LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22886> b: ABT. 1804
Ludwell G. LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22890> b: 1811 in Bent Creek, Buchingham County, Virginia
Leomyra W. LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22904> b: 1813 in Virginia
David Roland LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22911> b: ABT. 1815 in Buckingham County, Virginia
William F. LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22925> b: ABT. 1817 in Buckingham County, Virginia
Robert Nelson LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22930> b: 19 JUN 1820 in Buckingham County, Virginia
Marriage 2 Delilah MARTIN </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22940> b: 12 NOV 1796 in Campbell County, Virginia
Married: 9 OCT 1828 in Lynchburg, Campbell County, Virginia
Children
Samuel Martin LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22941> b: AUG 1829 in Appomattox County, Virginia
Silas Watkins LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22958> b: 20 SEP 1831 in Appomattox County, Virginia
James M. LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22964> b: ABT. 1837 in Appomattox County, Virginia
Richard Henry Guy LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22966> b: ABT. 1840 in Appomattox County, Virginia
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Name: Guy Samuel LEE Sex: M Birth: 1 JUN 1775 in , Buckingham, Va Death: 13 JUL 1861 in Cambell, Virginia (Civil War?) Change Date: 5 OCT 2004Father: Gresham LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=famtree10&id=I21863> b: ABT 1740 in Fishpond Creek, Albemarle, Virginia Mother: FRANKLIN </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=famtree10&id=I21874> b: 1756Marriage 1 Margaret Jane KYLE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=famtree10&id=I21879>
Children
Mary Jane LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=famtree10&id=I21877> b: 1809
Marriage 2 Delilah MARTIN </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=famtree10&id=I21876>
Married: 1828
Children
Samuel Martin LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=famtree10&id=I12884>

More About Guy Samuel LEE:
Ancestral File Number: 22R8-8PD
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

More About Margaret Jane KYLE:
Ancestral File Number: 22R8-GDK
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

Children of Guy LEE and Margaret KYLE are:
i. Ludwell Gresham LEE, born in Bent Creek, Buckingham, Va; died 29 Sep 1892 in Lynchburg, Campbell, Va; married Martha Susan HALL; born May 1821 in , , New York; died 15 Aug 1874 in Campbell County, Virginia.

More About Ludwell Gresham LEE:
Ancestral File Number: 22R8-GKL
Burial: 04 Oct 1892, Spring Hill, Campbell, Va
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

More About Martha Susan HALL:
Ancestral File Number: 22R9-30B
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

ii. Elizabeth C LEE, born Abt. 1799 in , Buckingham, Va; married Richard W. Chick.

More About Elizabeth C LEE:
Ancestral File Number: 22R8-GFR
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

More About Richard W. Chick:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

iii. Mary Jane LEE, born 1801 in , Buckingham, Va; died 06 Jun 1889 in Lynchburg, Campbell, Va; married Orlando W. BROWN; born 1812 in Virginia; died 06 Dec 1897 in Lynchburg, Campbell, Va.

Notes for Mary Jane LEE:
Husband's Name
Orlando W. BROWN
Born: 1812Place: , , Va
Died: 6 Dec 1897Place: Lynchburg, Campbell, Va
Buried: Place: Spring Hill, Campbell, Va
Married: 30 Aug 1837Place: Lynchburg, , Va

Father:
Mother:

Wife's Name
Mary Jane LEE <individual_record.asp?recid=50848640> (AFN:22R8-GN7) Pedigree <pedigree_view.asp?recid=50848640&familyid=13192795>

Born: 1801Place: , Buckingham, Va
Died: 6 Jun 1889Place: Lynchburg, Campbell, Va
Buried: Place: Spring Hill, , Va
Married: 30 Aug 1837Place: Lynchburg, , Va

Father: Guy Samuel LEE <individual_record.asp?recid=50848461> (AFN:22R8-8PD) Family <family_group_record.asp?familyid=13192135>
Mother: Margaret Jane KYLE <individual_record.asp?recid=50848632> (AFN:22R8-GDK)

Children

1. Sex Name
M William R. BROWN <individual_record.asp?recid=50851036> (AFN:22RC-4J3) Pedigree <pedigree_view.asp?recid=50851036>

Born: Abt 1841 Place: Lynchburg, Campbell, Va

2. Sex Name
M George R. BROWN <individual_record.asp?recid=50851037> (AFN:22RC-4K9) Pedigree <pedigree_view.asp?recid=50851037>

Born: Abt 1843 Place: Lynchburg, Campbell, Va
Died: 19 Mar 1920 Place: Washington D.c.

3. Sex Name
F Sara J. BROWN <individual_record.asp?recid=50848481> (AFN:22R8-9CH) Pedigree <pedigree_view.asp?recid=50848481>

Born: 4 Oct 1838 Place: Lynchburg, Campbell, Va
Died: 27 Jun 1926 Place: Lynchburg, Campbell, Va

More About Mary Jane LEE:
Ancestral File Number: 22R8-GN7
Burial: Spring Hill, , Va
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

More About Orlando W. BROWN:
Burial: Spring Hill, Campbell, Va
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

iv. George W. LEE, born Abt. 1804 in , Buckingham, Va; died 29 Aug 1875 in Lynchburg, Campbell, Va; married (1) Carolime M. ?; died 14 Oct 1851 in Lynchburg, Campbell County, Virginia; married (2) Martha B. JORDAN; born 1819 in , Campbell, Va; died 31 Dec 1906 in Lynchburg, Campbell, Va.

More About George W. LEE:
Ancestral File Number: 22R8-GG0
Burial: 30 Aug 1875, Spring Hill, Campbell, Va
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

More About Carolime M. ?:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

2 v. David Roland LEE, born Abt. 1808 in , Buckingham, Va; died Abt. 1870 in Buckingham County, Virginia; married (1) Unknown; married (2) Martha ?.
vi. Liomyra Leomyra W. LEE, born 1813 in , Buckingham, Va; died 26 Nov 1895 in Bedford County, Virginia; married William Henry; born Abt. 1811; died 06 Jul 1887 in Bedford County, Virginia.

More About Liomyra Leomyra W. LEE:
Ancestral File Number: 22R8-GM1
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

More About William Henry:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

vii. William F. LEE, born Abt. 1817 in , Buckingham, Va; died Bef. 1880 in Missouri; married Mary S. Schoolfield; born Abt. 1817 in Lynchburg, Campbell County, Virginia.

More About William F. LEE:
Ancestral File Number: 22R8-GLS
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

More About Mary S. Schoolfield:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

viii. Robert Nelson LEE, born 19 Jun 1820 in , Buckingham, Va; died 16 Sep 1875 in Smith County, Tennessee; married (1) Mary Jane Talbot; died 30 Sep 1863 in Chesterfield County, Virginia; married (2) Margaret E. Eudailey; born Abt. 1840.

More About Robert Nelson LEE:
Ancestral File Number: 22R8-GH6
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

More About Mary Jane Talbot:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

Generation No. 4

8. Gresham LEE Sr., born Abt. 1745 in Fishpond Creek, Goochland Co, V; died Abt. 1829 in Buckingham co., VA. He was the son of Richard Henry Lee and Mary GRESHAM or Grisham. He married 9. Priscilla Priciley STAPLES.
9. Priscilla Priciley STAPLES, born Abt. 1747 in Buckingham co., VA; died Bef. 1808.

Notes for Gresham LEE Sr.:
I1280 Name: Gresham Sr. LEE
Sex: M
Birth: 1745 in Fishpond Creek,Goochland Co,VA (See Note)

Change Date: 1 AUG 2002 at 20:20:40Father: Richard H. II "ESQUIRE", (6grt-grndfthr) LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2467072&id=I1166> b: 1710 in Buckingham Co,VA (See Notes/LAND RECORD) Mother: Mary, (6grt-grndmthr) GRESHAM </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2467072&id=I1241> b: Abt 1715 in Prince Edward,VA - Across the Appomattox River (See Note)Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
Married: Bef 1774 in 1st sp. Priscilla Staples,
2nd sp. June ?
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Gunsmith to the United States at the time of the Revolution.G.W. Lee letter: "Well, I never saw uncle Grisham nor none of hisfamily. He married Priciley Staples and stayed in Virginia and wasgunsmith to the U.S. in time of the Revolution; was then quite an oldman and had children as old as my father so his family must havespread to many hundreds by this time."
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.Name: Gresham LEE Sex: M Birth: ABT. 1745 in Albemarle Co., Virginia Death: AFT. 1790 in Jackson County, Tennessee Reference Number: 22201Father: Richard Henry LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22187> b: ABT. 1726 in Albemarle Co., Virginia Mother: Mary GRESHAM </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22199>Marriage 1 Priscilla STAPLES </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22211>
Married: BEF. 1774
Children
Guy Samuel LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22875> b: 1 JUN 1775 in Buckingham County, Virginia
Benjamin D. LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22967> b: in Virginia
Polly LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22968> b: ABT. 1785 in Virginia
Marriage 2 June ? </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22969>
Married: BEF. 1809
Children
Agnes R. LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22970> b: 1809 in Buckingham County, Virginia
David R. LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1548277&id=I22972>
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More About Gresham LEE Sr.:
Ancestral File Number: 22R8-7T2
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

More About Priscilla Priciley STAPLES:
Ancestral File Number: 22R8-8N6
Record Change: 29 Sep 2003

Children of Gresham LEE and Priscilla STAPLES are:
4 i. Guy Samuel LEE, born 01 Jun 1775 in , Buckingham, Va; died 13 Jul 1861 in Appomattox County, Virginia also of Cambell, Va; married (1) Delilah Martin; married (2) Margaret Jane KYLE.
ii. Benjamin D. LEE, born Abt. 1777 in Buckingham co., VA; married Sarah FRIEND; born 05 Oct 1777.

Notes for Benjamin D. LEE:
Name: Benjamin D. LEE
Given Name: Benjamin D. Surname: Lee
Sex: M
Birth: Abt 1777 in Buckingham Co, Virginia
(See Notes) Death: in Deceased

Note:
Benjamin Lee is listed as B. Lee in the personal property Tax Report for Buckingham Co, Virginia in 1798. The listing showed, "Gresham Lee and son B. Lee" and it was dated April 24, 1798. Benjamin D. Lee was reported in the 1810 Buckingham Co, Virginia, Census as being between 20-45 years of age and he had a wife who was in the same age bracket. They had three sons and two daughters, all were under ten years of age. Benjamin had been listed as a tax payer in Buckingham Co. in 1800.Benjamin owned 1 Horse, other than items that referred to Benjamin D. Lee, there is only one further record of his being and that item is recorded in the report from the "University of Virginia Manuscript Collection". Refereance: Ancestors and Descendants of Gresham Lee of Buckingham Co, VA - Author: Richard Edward Lee. Pg. 23 - 24 in book.
Benjamin Lee built a log home and brick home. Used as a church up on a high hill. Up on Miami River. William Nowlin Lee says that Pat Fennel can be reached at 303-360-6762 as she is a descent of Benjamin Lee line
Note by William Nowlin Lee, Madison Heights, VA taken by phone by Peggy Leyva-Conley, Hollister, CA. Feb 12, 2004.
Father: Gresham Sr. LEE </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3239337&id=I641206088> b: 1745 in (Note) Fishpond Creek, Goochland County, Virginia Mother: Priscilla STAPLES </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3239337&id=I641207106> b: Abt 1745 in Fishpond Creek, Goochland Co, VAMarriage 1 Sarah FRIEND </cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3239337&id=I641235174> b: 5 Oct 1777 in Greenbrier County, Virginia
Married: 24 Aug 1797 in Abingdon, Washington, Virginia

More About Benjamin D. LEE:
Record Change: 29 Sep 2003

More About Sarah FRIEND:
Record Change: 15 Jun 2006

iii. Mary Polly LEE, born Abt. 1779 in Buckingham co., VA.

More About Mary Polly LEE:
Record Change: 29 Sep 2003

iv. Gresham LEE Jr, born Abt. 1781 in Buckingham Co. Va.; died in Greene Co., NC.

Notes for Gresham LEE Jr:
LEE GRESHAM SR 81 M W TN MO PETTIS BOWLING GREEN TWP 1860

More About Gresham LEE Jr:
Christening: Also look under Gersham Girshom
Record Change: 13 Oct 2006

Perhaps through her siblings or father there maybe a document that may show up that can help you further. Good luck!

Chris - have you searched in Google Books? I found a number of my mid and late 19th century relatives in obscure books, with discussion of their lineage. You might look for a reference to her husband, which would possibly also mention his wife's lineage.

Chris DeNoia

Can you link the geni profile here for Theodore Ross (Theodore and Elizabeth (Lee) Ross). Copy & paste the URL of the geni profile in a msg.

I am from the Ross of Rhode Island line and there's a branch that went to Rochester NY ... in fact could be my direct branch.

The dates Jacqueli just quoted are:

Theodore Ross (c. 1644 NY), son of John W. (b. 1814) and Mary A. (b. 1819).

So something is off with that Theodore's birth date.

Erica - I didn't quote any dates for the Ross's - what I gave Chris was the only lead of the Lee data for a Elizabeth (Mary) Lee born c. 1843. Not for an assumption - but to help his research towards a possible connection or document.

Sorry - just didn't understand why you thought I had given him dates for Theodore...

I could have been misreading! I got all excited about a Ross / Lee connection. I've been chasing Ross forever.

I do have some Ross's in the data - but earlier DOB's - I can send them your way if you want. Unfortunately most of the Lee's that migrated to New York were not of the LOV line, but related higher up (some) in the ancestry.

My branch of Rosses are from Tennessee ca 1800 and I am trying to solid up the connection to the Rosses of Rhode Island, quite intertwined with "Elder" Crandall.

There is a branch of RI Ross that went to upstate NY, and I believe but cannot prove to my 100% satisfaction as yet that they lead to my Tennessee branch lineage.

I want to be particularly careful here because there's a supposed marriage in (or two!) to Hungerford in the "upper branches," and that leads to Royalty, and lots of care needed ...

William Ross, Sr.
William Ross (1660-1712) seems valid, but I need to work on his wife / wives.

Erica - here are a few that I have, maybe they will ring a bell for you:

Descendants of Martha A. Ross

Generation No. 1

1. MARTHA A.1 ROSS was born Abt. 1869. She married ROBERT M. CRIDER, son of JAMES CRIDER and JANE WEATHERS. He was born 1868 in Carroll Co, TN, and died 27 Jan 1931.

More About MARTHA A. ROSS:
Record Change: 23 Dec 2001

More About ROBERT M. CRIDER:
Burial: Hampton Cemetery
Record Change: 23 Dec 2001

Descendants of Juliane Ross

Generation No. 1

1. JULIANE2 ROSS (GILBER OF STREETON1) She married SIR ROBERT LE VAVASOUR HIGH SHERIFF, son of SIR WILLIAM LE VAVASOUR LORD HASELWOOD.

More About JULIANE ROSS:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About SIR ROBERT LE VAVASOUR HIGH SHERIFF:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Child of JULIANE ROSS and SIR LE VAVASOUR is:
2. i. MAUD3 LE VAVASOUR, b. Abt. 1187, of Edlington & Newborough, Yorkshire; d. Bef. 1226, of Hazelwood, Yorkshire.

Generation No. 2

2. MAUD3 LE VAVASOUR (JULIANE2 ROSS, GILBER OF STREETON1) was born Abt. 1187 in of Edlington & Newborough, Yorkshire, and died Bef. 1226 in of Hazelwood, Yorkshire. She married FULKE FITZWARIN. He was born in of Shropshire, England.

More About MAUD LE VAVASOUR:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

More About FULKE FITZWARIN:
Record Change: 31 Mar 2002

Child of MAUD LE VAVASOUR and FULKE FITZWARIN is:
i. FULK4 FITZWARIN, b. Abt. 1202, Alveston, Gloucestershire; d. 14 May 1264; m. CONSTANCE DE TOENI; b. Abt. 1215, Pain Castle, Radnor, Wales; d. Aft. 11 Feb 1265/66.

More About FULK FITZWARIN:
Record Change: 13 Oct 1999

More About CONSTANCE DE TOENI:
Record Change: 30 Oct 1999

Descendants of Mary Ross

Generation No. 1

1. MARY1 ROSS died 17 Jan 1767. She married JOHN (1ST DUKE OF ATHOLL) MURRAY, son of JOHN MURRAY and AMELIA STANLEY. He was born 24 Feb 1658/59, and died 14 Nov 1724.

More About MARY ROSS:
Record Change: 22 Apr 2005

More About JOHN (1ST DUKE OF ATHOLL) MURRAY:
Record Change: 22 Apr 2005

Descendants of Nicholas Ross

Generation No. 1

1. NICHOLAS1 ROSS He married NOLIA LEE, daughter of ARISTIDE LEE and EUSEIDE DUBOIS.

Child of NICHOLAS ROSS and NOLIA LEE is:
i. NICHOLAS2 ROSS.

Husband: Ninian ROSS Baron Ross

Born: in:
Married: in:

Died: in:
Burial:
Father:

Mother:
Other Spouses:

Wife: Elizabeth STUART COUNTESS OF LENNOX

Born: Abt. 1494 in: Of, Balveny, Fifeshire, Scotland

Died: in: , , , Scotland
Burial:
Father: John STEWART EARL OF ATHOLL

Mother: Eleanor SINCLAIR COUNTESS OF ATHOLL
Other Spouses: Mungo HUME, John III STUART Earl, Patrick SINCLAIR

Erica,

Here is the profile: Elizabeth (Lee) Ross Mary Elizabeth Ross
Theodore Ross: Theodore Francis Ross

Theodore was born in 1844. (the 1644 might have been a typo).

Here is the 1850 census that shows Theodore Ross (age 6) in Benton, NY (not far from Rochester). This could be the same Theodore Ross, so it may track the parents back 1 more generation on the Ross side. https://www.familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=https://...

Hi Chris

Both of these profiles are set to "private" so I can see no details nor get into their trees. Are you the manager? If so, are you comfortable setting them to "deceased / public" ?

Very cool query results, Jacqueli! I will have to leave aside the early days, Rosses of Scotland for another time, but that

1. MARTHA A.1 ROSS was born Abt. 1869. She married ROBERT M. CRIDER, son of JAMES CRIDER and JANE WEATHERS. He was born 1868 in Carroll Co, TN, and died 27 Jan 1931.

Is in my direct ancestral neck of the woods. Need to check my own tree now!

Okay - if you more let me know :) This is just the Ross's that are in my own ancestral file, so it was just an easy query of looking up the Ross surname on my family tree (which is also the data file for the Lee's, etc.,) So not a problem if you need more information or Ahnentafel reports.

Erica,
they were set to public

I know about those Rosses - my partner is from the William Ross Sr. line, a branch that went out to upstate NY and beyond, then did a U-turn and went back to Boston about two-three generations ago.

As far as I or Erica have been able to document, William Ross, Sr. or his father came to Westerly, RI from Barbados, but we aren't sure when - and as for finding when that particular Ross line went from Scotland to Barbados in the first place, nada (yet).

I should get my partner to take a Y-DNA test - he's a Ross in the direct male line from William Sr. (Admittedly, that's only as reliable as the fidelity of the female line! :-)

Maven so how can we bribe your partner for the biggest testing possible:):). My male 1st cousin has results to compare with you know. R1b2 (huge surprise .. Not).

It would be awesome to separate "likely Welsh origin" Ross from "likely Scots" origin.

R1b1a2? Lotsa that going around - they usually recommend deep-testing (lots more markers, and more money for the testers) for that huge haplotype. :-D

Will see what I can talk him into.

What's nice is he's getting good hits now for gens 6 to current & they're all matching the documented Geni tree - so we end up helping others. He's having no luck yet on his Dad's side brick wall but at least it narrows "where he should look" in the UK

Check ut the New England historical and Genealogy Register Volume 157 Jan 2003, has the Ross's of Ipswitch, 3 brothers. All Scot descent, most likely sent to New England as prisoners after the Battle of Dunbar.

Highland Ross family then? I wonder if they married into any of my Ipswich MA families ....

The Ross family of RI was associated with the 7th Day Sabbaritan movement & their family associations were with Welsh & Huguenot. Which is an argument for Anglo / Irish or Welsh origins more than Scots for this group.

That would make them Seventh Day Baptists rather than Seventh Day Adventists, wouldn't it? (My recollection is that the latter group is relatively modern,a spinoff of the failed Millerite movement of the 1840s.)

Much closer the 7th Day Baptists, correct.

This is the church - still going - that crowd was associated with

http://www.ubcnpt.com/our-story.html