Same person as Esther Rochel Halpern

Started by Joe Slater on Saturday, January 29, 2011
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1/29/2011 at 4:23 PM

Yes! It must be from the same family! My Grandmother, Shlomtza Klang (Halpern), is a daghter from Esther Rochel Halpern, commonly called Rochel Halpern, Her Husband was Rabbi Yoel Halpern, and the lineage you quote from his family seems to correspond almost perfectly to our records. However, to our knowledge, my grandmother claims to be one of four siblings. In age order, they are

1. Chananya Yosef Halpern, who married an Ungar girl from Zabne. He was killed in WWII the day after Yom Kipur.
2. Chana Tobe Halpern who married Zichlinsky (?) from Strikov Lodze. She and her family also perrished in WWII.
After many years, they had twins. Together with the twins, they emigrated to America in the late 1920's. The twins are:
3. Shlomtza Halpern, who married Isaac Klang. Shlomtza, my grandmother, still resides in Brooklyn. (Till 120) My father is named after the Yoel hapern, wife of Rachel Halpern.
4. Yocheved Halpern, who married Moshe Englander. She passed away last year.

I would like to know from where you have the information regarding R' Yoel Halpern having two sons, and the lack of information regarding my grandmother. Also, since I love discovering new relatives, what is your relation to the family?

Eagerly awaiting your replies,
Briena Klang and Family.

1/29/2011 at 4:31 PM

My wife is descended from the Halper(i)n family, and your someone asked about your great-grandfather on an email list I follow. After reading your list of names I think that the person asking misread Shlomo for Shlomtza so I fixed that. As you know the Halperin family is very large and very well known, so it can be very hard to keep track of everybody!

1/29/2011 at 4:39 PM

WOW! my grandmother also claims that halpern was with an I! Do you telling me how your wife is a descendant of the halperin family? are you a descendant of rabbi Avrahom zorach aryeh yehuda leibish halperin? My grandmother gets so thrilled when she hears of family members!

1/29/2011 at 5:58 PM

Geni says that my wife's grandmother (Jean Dresner) is your grandmother's third cousin. Here's my wife's grandmother's profile:
Jean Spizer

My wife's grandmother's grandmother was the granddaughter of R' Naftoli Hertz Heilprin who was the Av Bet Din of Brzezany. Your family comes from another grandchild, R' Avrohom Zerach Aryeh Yehuda Heib Halperin. Different family members spell the name differently - Heilprin, Halperin, Halpern and so forth.

1/29/2011 at 8:03 PM

Your discussion appeared on my home page, and I thought that the following three geni projects might be of interest to you in your search for Halperin roots.

1. [http://www.geni.com/projects/Alperovich-Heilbrunn-Heilbrun-Heilbron... Heilprin Family Project]
2. [http://www.geni.com/projects/Jewish-Ancestry-Research-Guide Jewish Ancestry Research Guide]
3. [http://www.geni.com/projects/Genealogy-Specialists-on-Geni Genealogy Specialists on Geni]

3/6/2012 at 7:21 AM

I'm responding to the post by Bee Bee, since a Moshe Englander was mentioned, and I wonder if there's a connection.

My gread grandmother, Freide Englander, was born in Novy Sacz, Poland, in 1863. She and Salomon Rubin (who was born in Dzialoiayce, Poland -- not sure of the spelling) had a child named Abraham Josef Englander in 1890. He was born in Podgorze, Poland. Freide immigrated to Antwerp, Belgium with Abraham Jozef and her parents, Moses Jacob Englander (born in Novy Sacz) and Feitsche (or Fanny) Klagsbrun (born in Gdov in 1842). Freide was in the liquor business in Antwerp, and in 1915 she took a ship to visit the U.S. She returned to Antwerp, however. Her mother is recorded as having died in Antwerp in 1926. Abraham Jozef married Chawe Faber false Frank, and they had two children, my mother, who was born Fanny Englander (1939), and my uncle, Mozes Jacob Englander (1937). Abraham Jozef and Chawe were taken to Auschwitz when my mother was two and my uncle was four. They were hidden during the war and eventually adopted by Maurice Schwartz and his wife Anna and arrived in the U.S. when she was eight and he was ten. Their names were changed to Frances and Marvin, then eventually, Frances became Risa.

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